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201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin closing price for September - Betting odds on: September 15, 2018, 07:56:26 AM
I prefer to bet on below $5000 if you are bearish on the market. If $6k support breaks, there is a high chance that bitcoin will end below $5k by the end of the month. $7.5k to $10k seems unlikely when any rally in bitcoin is weaks. Even the recent rally in bitcoin falls to go above $7.5k, what makes you think it will go above $7.5k by the end of the month?
Although a lot of people are envisaging there may likely be some good movement upward towards the end of September, but I still would not count so much on it. For what it is worth though, I really would not expect as much as $7500 to $10000 by the month end and would simply be more drifted towards the first or second odd, but mostly the second one by the end of the month which to me is still a lot realistic. Although, things can change fast though, so I guess time will tell.

Guessing the odds @ 5.8 for a price over $7500 are worth a shot.
A little bit hard to see the market going as high as $7500. Probably, I would choose the range from $5000 to $7500 as that sounds a whole lot more realistic to me. Sure, no one can really tell what the future holds, but at the same time, looking at the situation of things, I really would not be expecting so much at the moment as a closing price at the end of the month.
202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What cryptocurrency would you engage to gamble in? on: September 15, 2018, 06:56:48 AM
the advantage of Litecoin itself does not require a large fee when we make a withdrawal on the wallet that we have and does not require a long time if we make transactions in it because it does not require much confirmation
Many altcoins does not really require much fees when it comes to transaction anyway, so I believe gambling with them cannot be a bad idea. I have always used doge more for gambling than any other cryptocurrency anyway certainly for no reason at all that it is doge and I do not care since I have been holding so much of it since its early days and nothing has changed with its development, except for the recent hype. Whichever way, the whole transaction fee thing and fast transaction, is not usually a problem when it comes to gambling with any coin.

I have known a lot of people who uses litecoin, one of them is my real time friend, as an alternative to bitcoin or other crypto currency  for it’s faster and cheaper transactions. I haven’t tried gambling with the coin but I think it would be satisfying to seek out to try.
I was using LTC at some point and then I stopped and rather decided to focus more on coins with a very low price in the market and possibly has reached their bottom, which gives me chance to buy the dips, gamble with some of them as long as they are available on the gambling platform which is the reason why I make use of cryptogames the more anyway and then just do my thing. Whichever way, nothing is guaranteed; it is all just gambling, whichever coin you decide to use, the odds are all the same.
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Are all the bounties coming out right now garbage? on: September 14, 2018, 07:38:46 PM
It is not so. Platio Platform is not garbage. Though there are so many unworthy bounties this days. 
If I may ask, what makes a smart banking ecosystem not to be garbage based on what the OP is saying ?
The fact remains that projects coming up these days are simply not up to do anything tangible but to copy what has already been done, fine tune it their own way, and hope that investors will certainly be able to hop in.

Nevertheless, I understand that no matter how garbage most of them could be, there would always be some of them that are still decent and worth investing in, one would just have to do a thorough search. I still agree that going through hundreds of projects and their whitepaper and reputation of dev-team. it may turn as an impossible task.
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Signature campaign on: September 14, 2018, 06:36:34 PM
Hello.
I know that there are so many threads about this. But they are old and everyday new bounties are started.

So could you kindly recommend me some good recent signature campaign?

Thank you!
You had already wearing a good signature and I believe that project will rise higher if given a chance to collect enough funds to realize the project. Although all of this will be nothing if the team can't make a good promotion that can attract more investors.
A whole lot of you just keep saying the same thing about him already wearing a signature but not even telling him what he should be doing in case of looking for a project next time. Certainly from experience of being a bounty person, I have always used ICOBench to filter out my list of what I want to research on, pick like 4 with some good and quite a huge number of expert rating and then do a thorough research to know if the team can do it for me, if there is a product investors will want to see available, the possible success of the ICO as well as the possible prospect of the project in the long run and this helps me in my decision making so as not to end up wasting my time on shitty projects.
205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin ready to pump (september 2018)? on: September 14, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
The pump will come when it's less expected.

Maybe several months after the halving late in 2019
The only way we can even know is when it comes and there is absolutely no other way. For those who monitor the market and its trend, they tend to look at the way they can make the best from the market volume in making decisions at certain point in time.

If we could all predict exactly when a pump will be happening, I am sure even the whales will not be able to manipulate a market and the market would only be more like a first come first serve thing in any of the direction it is taking. But that will be never possible that is the reason most people from this community is always checking here about speculations of other people to get some idea about the upcoming bitcoin price directions.

What is important now is to see the market get more matured, get used as a currency and adopted as such for payment purposes, and get to see real demand than awaiting some pump.
206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Decentralized exchanges 'make crypto unstoppable'? (McAffee bullshits?) on: September 14, 2018, 04:15:40 PM
https://youtu.be/MO5Z_o9krNo?t=1m14s

McAffee says 'Decentralized exchanges make crypto unstoppable' (country-bans would be ineffective)

BUT how do you GET FIAT IN and FIAT OUT on decentralized exchanges?
No way to do that on decentralized exchanges, is there?
And it's the most important thing.

So right now to me it seems McAffee's point is total bullshit, or am i missing something
I would not doubt that. At least this is a market, and as long as things remain decentralized, there is nothing to ban unless we now want to see websites being hijacked by the FEDs, with people losing their money and all that which to me still sounds like something that would not work.

The idea of getting fiat in and fiat out only depends on whether people see the need to have to convert to fiat or they really do not. Imagine the scenario where people easily accept cryptocurrency for value of something, then you really would not need fiat. However, in this case of not needing fiat and the government banning crypto, we both know it would be hard to achieve not needing fiat, since there would not be much real life usage in that case.
207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins may end year .....! on: September 14, 2018, 02:50:35 PM
We will rise again for the remaining months of 2018, this current dump will not last until 2019 so try to invest with bitcoin now. A lot of people still see good things in the future of bitcoin so believe it or not, we will still see bitcoin with a great price in 2019.
You are saying that categorically like you can see the future. Yes, we are all optimistic to see a better year at the end of the year and possibly till early next year, but I seriously would not want to count on it too much. The trend is always my friend and I prefer to do what it tells me at every certain point in time. So far, the market is holding up, we are not sure yet how well it would end up in growth, and how far it would go or if it even will at all, but one thing that is certain for sure, is that time will give its own decision when it comes.

For me coming months will bring some green moment again on our market so i am looking forward to see bitcoin again great with a big price.
Hopefully it will but the thing is that none of us certainly can be so sure yet. The last few months of the year has always been a very good one for the crypto market in general, but at the same time, this does not mean that we can always expect the past to be an indicative of the future as things can change. We have been in a bear year for a while now, and no one knows for sure how the year would end up like, but apparently with time, we sure will get to know.
208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why martingale is PURE SHIT. on: September 13, 2018, 03:30:02 PM
Martingale strategy is classic and been used still upto nowadays but for newbie or new gamblers they do have different mindset and appreciation with this common strategy.They do saw some people who make big profits but they dont know that theres always a very big risk behind it before they do attain those amounts.
Yeah, there is absolutely no doubt that martingale strategy can be classy but the thing here is that people focus so much attention on it so much thinking it is just the best way for them to start making shit load of money. If it is by that way, we all would have been using martingale strategy, and with everyone winning, what is going to be left of the casino owners ? One thing a lot of people do not think. As long as the casino owners keep making huge profit, so many people are still losing whether they are using martingale, labouchere or whatever.

Mathematical things will never react based on environments. But unfortunately, by keeping the full faith on those gambling houses, we do get ready to call one mathematical formula as a pure shit. Ridiculous gamblers Shocked.
You sound like that you are not keeping faith on the algorithms which are being used by gambling houses. That may be the actual game changer here but what to do the entire community is discussing about the mathematical things alone.
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to invest in an ICO? on: September 13, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
All good points, but before you invest be sure to join the telegram group and observe if the admins are always accessible and active. Check its white paper,  and also check if there are workable products they are endorsing to strengthen the ICO price.
It is a reasonable thing to be ready to ask a whole lot of questions when it comes to investing in an ICO from a team and you certainly cannot ask those questions if you are not able to get a good understanding of the project itself. New projects are popping out every day, so there is certainly the need to be able to filter out all that is necessary to be able to choose the right one. Viable product is one way to start, and then the team and then what the whole vision of the team is certainly like.

all types of ICO have differences, even a lot of differences in that. team, strategy, and much more. maybe you can choose a good project, but we don't know whether it will work or not. investing in ICO is very easy, you just need to follow the instructions listed on the site
Investing in ICO is not easy and at the same time it is easy. It is not easy in the sense that you have to understand all the necessary things about the project before even investing and that usually take some time, and looking at the fact that ICOs are coming up every day, that even makes it very hard not to waste your time on the wrong project. This is one reason why I usually take a look at the team and their past achievements, correlate it with the present project, see if they can deliver, then from there, see if it is a product worth investing or not.
210  Economy / Economics / Re: Tech advances should make 4-day workweek a reality for the 21st century on: September 13, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
I think 4 day workweek or 7 day workweek, they all depend on your job.

I have been working in 3 different jobs and never step outside of my house. I have been working for proper big huge companies and I have done small stuff for family and friends and none of them were somewhere outside so I did all of them in front of my PC.

Nevertheless, I used to work in hotels and I had to be in the hotel to work in the hotel obviously, also it was 3 shifts so we covered 7/24 always being there and we never had Christmas or new years or whatever as a free day because hotel was obviously open on those days as well so there need to be workers there. Hence we always need to see which work we talk about when we say 4 day workweek.
211  Economy / Marketplace / Re: how to turn your blockchain balance into real money? on: September 13, 2018, 09:30:42 AM
Many exchanges allow withdrawals but he can't withdraw large sums in a day. If he want to withdraw more money, he needs to confirm the personal information. In general it is not too difficult. Bestexchange is also a good option to do this.
This is not even a hard thing anymore. A whole lot of exchanges are popping up each and every day locally just to be able to assist in the conversion of cryptocurrencies to fiat, which we all know since real life usage of cryptocurrency is not paramount yet, it is a needed service at the moment and these exchanges are making quite a lot from the fees. The thing here is to just find one that is close, or simply if you cannot find any, make use of the P2P platforms like localbitcoin to do your transactions.

the only issue is that local exchanges are usually available for certain parts and does not necessarily cover every country, so in this case, this is where the individual will have to do their own research to find the one that is available to them.
I do see many individuals in bitcoin community are having this problem. This is just due to lack of research to find their easier way to convert bitcoins into their fiats. If they check with their colleagues or friends, they can easily find one.
212  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Dedication needed to support crypto community? on: September 12, 2018, 08:13:56 PM
Avoiding spreading false information because that's leading the community to react quickly.

And if you caught someone spreading that type of info then you have to inform him that he shouldn't do that. As you've said, he needs to validate his information first before spreading it. We know on how quick news are spreaded throughout the web.
The whole thing about false information is not only related to the people of the community but also is something that the mainstream media is a big part of it. We cannot avoid it, it is the digital age and information can easily be passed quickly electronically without being able to hold anyone for it. This is where as an investor, you need great deal of knowledge, ability to do some good research on your own, have a great idea of all that is needed, to be able to make the best of the space as much as possible.

What do you think on it? Any other points to share here?
The major thing here is actually to just stay knowledgeable as much as you can. Get to know all the things you can know as much as you can without leaving any part. Knowledge is profitable and helps to direct when making decisions a whole lot of the time. Without it, it would be a very hard thing to make good decisions as an investor, securing your funds, knowing where to invest, knowing when to invest and so many other things.
213  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New biggest crash since 2013? on: September 12, 2018, 03:48:48 PM
I still believe that the market will soon rise again, and I strongly believe that bitcoin has enormous potential for the future.
At the least, one thing for certain is that the market is more matured than 2013 and that is a good thing. Market cap has increased over time, we tend to see less volatility even though it is still there but comparing to the likes of 2013, is a lot lower. This to me is a just a huge correction which is normal. A lot of people have noticed this happening after the bull run and then history repeating itself again, some listened and some still joined FOMO anyway. Let's see how much this one would go.

I would not compare them, but definetely it is another big crash similar to one in 2013, then we also should know that recovery will also take lots of time before the next bull run.
Yes, anyone who is smart enough and has been able to learn what actually makes the market tick in terms of the future, will know that there is a lot more to come in the future for the growth of the market which is the reason why certain people tend not to bother much about the movement of the market in the short term but prefer focusing most of the their attention to what the future holds. The potential is there and things would get better than now, and that is worth waiting for.
214  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Manual vs Automated trading on: September 12, 2018, 01:59:05 PM
Created this thread to discuss how important is it automate your trading strategies.

Out of curiosity, just wanna know how many of you guys are still manually trading? And how many of you are automating your trades? And if you are automating them, are you making consistent profits? What are the pros and cons?
The problem is the bear vs bull question. During a bear run like the 9 month we have been having, manual is better because you are getting into something you personally believe and increase the amount you have over time and wait for a bull run, whereas bots just try to make money but lose because it is a bear market.

Moreover, during a bull run you are a human so you can invest into something that could make money but bots are constantly 7/24 checking prices and indicators and making money insanely and constantly and get rich quite fast because they can do this all the time and fast whereas you can't.
215  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Big Whales doing day trade with bitcoin? on: September 12, 2018, 09:25:32 AM
It is not necessary to blame large crypto currency investors in all price movements. I believe that the price so moves completely by chance, because the opinions of most investors making predictions on technical analysis are the same.
People tend to want to blame everything on the whales and even their own trading mistakes. There is no market that is not one way or the other manipulated and even though this market seems like a lot manipulated due to its volatility, it is something that anyone should understand by now, that there is nothing anyone can do about it. There will certainly always be market controllers and there is certainly no doubt about that, and for what it is worth, the best is just to stick with the trend and know how to follow it.

We will se later the price of Bitcoin will breakout $20k because more new investor will interesting about crypto and the technology.
Yes, reaching out again $20k will be possible only with the help of whales and when bitcoin is getting new higher prices then new investors will start showing interests. This is how bitcoin price cycle worked and reached big levels hence in future too it will work on similar manner. Hence, whales are always important for this market.
216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Big pop up again on: September 11, 2018, 08:07:09 PM
This is what Wall Street call "price discovery". Its the point where they cant suppress the price any longer.

But the issue remains: will it go up from there? Will this bottom go up? Or will the price keeps swinging over it?


We’ve been here so many times this year, and seeing the previous price movement, always a bounce back after hitting this level. Maybe the theory of the OP is right since the support level are strong between the price range of $5k-$6k where buyers and sellers agreed the bottom price. No one can answer your question but as an optimist hodler, Maybe we see a new bottom but I know it will to rise again.

IMO institutional investors have buys just under the $6000 mark. Which is why it's holding above that level. What is missing is retail investors - they've been scared away by the price drop from $20,000 plus all the drama with fees at the end of last year.
We need some big investors in current time, which can give some boost to bitcoin price. Once the bitcoin price will start increasing then the retailer will also get some confident and will hopefully start buying bitcoin, which is in fact too much important for the bitcoin price.
Big investors know when they should start accumulating and this may actually be the accumulation period as the case may be. Like Cellard said, it is possible we already have the bigger players who are trying as much as possible to not see the value go down below what would not pay them as miners as we move on.

For what it is worth, I guess we can pretty much assume that this point forward, we may actually start consolidating and swinging between this price range until the market is ready to pick up eventually.
And a big pop down again. This is the life we are living right now, going up and down quickly in all directions without doing much in the sense of a bear or bull run.

The 10% quick going up and down can't be considered a bear or bull run in neither direction its just daily regular price fluctuations so we are stuck at this level for a long time just watching it without actually getting our hopes up for anything.

It is incredible that we have not seen a movement to any direction with like 20% for months now, I would expect something as volatile as bitcoin and crypto to actually have insane movements but no we are at the land of death just waiting for any moves. The last quarter 2018 must be different as per many people's expectation. I am also expecting a new ATH within this year. It may sound greed but anything will be possible in this market hence there could not be any mistake in my expectations.
217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin reach $25000 by the end of the year? on: September 11, 2018, 07:19:13 PM
Do you think but coin will reach $25000 mark this year and go beyond that or will it be one more typical temporary pump followed by the dump? Need your opinion guy what would be the value of bitcoin by the end of this bull run.
I am not too sure anymore. The price keeps going up all the time but than it goes back down like it was hit in the head whenever it pop ups.

I do think bitcoin has a huge upside if it goes up because last year it moved from 900 dollar levels to $20k levels and we are at $6k levels so increasing to $25k SHOULD be easy but apparently some people do not want it to happen yet. If we can figure out how we can keep the whales happy during a bull market and feed them their profits, we can definitely see an increase however for now whales are making great returns from keeping the bitcoin prices low.

There is a chance but it doesn't seem a big chance of that happen so far.
218  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the reason for bearish of BTC on: September 11, 2018, 04:43:07 PM
I am a firm believer that the reason why bitcoin hasn't gone up in price for the past 9 months is the whales making a great return from the short futures. That is my idea and I can not know for sure if it is true or not and I keep checking the short prices and how much it has been invested and sometimes when bitcoin is going down the number of short futures sold increases but honestly sometimes it doesn't budge so I keep saying there is a correlation but maybe not as much as I believe.

We do not have a proof of a reason for sure and we can never know 100% the exact reason but I believe people are making money while keeping bitcoin low which could be the biggest reasoning for not going up.
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where do you buy which coins? on: September 11, 2018, 01:14:24 PM
Personally, I use CEX ( https://cex.io/ ). Just like you said, I use it because I know it. Probably, the security that they provide doesn't differ much from others, but they have never failed yet.
Securities at this stage in time are totally dependent on each individual. Although, it is nothing new that exchanges can be subjected to a very huge attack which may eventually get to affect the users in some ways, but in the real sense, you are going to be subjected to attack or hack, as long as you do not have enough security functions on your account enabled to keep it safe. CEX has been on for a while but the only limitation is that you get to see few coins listed here. For a very good number of reasons, which includes reputation and security, Binance and Bittrex I believe does it for me.

At which exchange do you buy which coins? Do you prefer to use the big ones like Binance / Bittrex? Or do you prefer the smaller ones for getting all shitcoins?
Why on earth will anyone want to be accumulating shitcoins? In that case, I really do not expect any sane individual to be using a non-trusted exchange no matter what. I personally prefer making use of well reputable exchanges with huge volume which I can always trust to fall back on even if I need to sell any market with ease. Most of the shit exchanges with shit coins usually have low liquidity and that is not a very good thing to start with.
220  Economy / Economics / Re: how to help people who have problem economic on: September 11, 2018, 09:10:34 AM
I'm confused and looking for answers about how to help people who are having economic problems,

are there any of us in this forum who have a good heart to help the economy of fellow human beings,

can opening new jobs reduce unemployment and improve the economy?
The main problem for people to have economical and financial issues is the gap between the rich and the poor.
The more rich people make the more they are taking from others and when they take from one person and that person becomes poor they go on to next person and make that person poor.

In order for the gap to increase there needs to be less and less middle class and more and more poor people, this will go on until one day there will be no middle class to turn into poor and the rich people will have to fight each other in order to get even richer, the greed of humanity will result with the yearn for making more and more money instead of saying "this amount is enough" which will make them fight each other to come out at top.
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