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521  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pump and Dump. How to make a profit? on: December 08, 2017, 12:28:23 PM
There is really no definite indicator. You just need to observe activities in the crypto market. The fluctuation of prices is affected primarily by its demand and supply. Higher demand indicates a higher price hence a pump. This pump is usually followed by a dump and vice versa.
It’s not quite easy to do that (pumping and dumping later) you might end up getting trapped in shitty coins and nobody will be ready to buy that shitty package lol. Bitcoin is good, and the price has been going up steadily recently, so why not take this opportunity and use it to make a lot of money off Bitcoin?? And that’s true, there is no way one can indicate.
522  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How I can make money with cryptocurrencies? on: December 08, 2017, 11:50:42 AM
In crypto world theres a lot of oppurtunities here not like in the real world ..there are many ways to earn money like trading , networking  , investment , signature campaign , buying in ico , gambling and many more..if you want to earn without using your money you can try faucet( they will give you satoshi or designated coin every time you click the claim button) or signature campaign here .. I will suggest to join in bounties because theres a lot of oppurtunity here and also practice your english writting .
Yep, there are lots of opportunities in the world of Bitcoin, but I wouldn’t recommend gambling for a starter, they will have to choose that by themselves. Trading is good, but you will have to learn before getting into it. Another good and simple work to do and earn Bitcoin is signature campaign. Signature campaign would be the best.
523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 08, 2017, 11:20:00 AM
I think gambling always ends up bad in the end. Nobody is immune to addiction.
thats right addiction is really bad thats the reason everyone should set up a win limit as well as a loss
limit so incase they enter in a situation with a huge profit of little loss they are aware of what their next
move should be

It is bad to the point that you could lose yourself, your friends, and even your own family. Gambling is a game where you could lose your mind once you get too attached on it, addicted on other term. Making a right decision where you are going to think first what is it going to cause to you if you do it, is it going to benefit you? Something like that.
even if you are not at a risk of losing them you are still messing up with your families future you shouldnt gamble at all
if you have to look for your future you are just risking their funds and causing a lot of unseen financial issues going to approach you
Gamblers mostly remain separate from their families and the reason is clear, they simply don’t want their families to get hurt because they are facing a lot of pains and burdens which completely destroys their inner peace as well as their social circle also.

They play with their own futures not with the futures of their families because if they can’t do their job, others will do it and work will be going on.
524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can you save money while playing gambling games? on: December 08, 2017, 10:48:02 AM
Hello! i want to save money while playing gambling game but i cant really do it because i am really addicted to bitcoin still i have small amount of money to save in my wallet but in the next day i spend it for gambling because i'll always lose in gambling games can someone help me with saving in my wallet and play gambling games at the same time.  
If you cant control yourself when playing then you will be tempted to use all your money for gambling.

Having a limitation is important and if you cant do that simple rule then it would be better if you stop playing.

If you gamble, you cant save money so if you wish to save your money for good then dont gamble. Youre the only one who can help yourself.

Yeah,if he want to save money then he need to stop gambling first or try to bet lowest amount as possible.But the gambling is meant only for fun purpose if you cannot afford to lose money for gambling then you just have to concentrate on other things which makes you happy.
If he still cannot stop from gambling then he need to contact a psychiatrist and have to medicate to overcome the gambling addiction,if you continue to live with this problem it may affect your personal life.
Exactly, The only way left for the person who plays gambling is that he should gamble the least amount so that if he is so unfortunate to lose the game, even then he would not face financial crisis in his future. Gambling is totally an addiction for the gambler and they can reduce it but not forget it completely. Gambling is done for two purposes basically; fun seeking and for earning huge amounts of profits.
525  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the bitcoin price doesn't stop rising? on: December 07, 2017, 10:33:05 AM
It is all about the law of supply and demand. There are many buyers of the Bitcoin making it in-demand then it causes a rising in the price because the supply decreases. It is just like a normal movement, because when the price gets high then the holders of Bitcoin will start to sell then investors waits for the price to decrease so they can buy even more. It is all about the demand and volatility that affects the price of Bitcoin.
Yeah that’s right that bitcoin cannot be controlled by any region or government and the example is china they want to impose on bitcoin but bitcoin is surviving without them and is far better than without them and all this is just because of vast user circle and I know one thing that in future more regions will join the race and more people will invest so there will be more rise in the price in the coming days and this will be awesome.
526  Economy / Economics / Re: Venezuela to launch 'Petro' cryptocurrency on: December 07, 2017, 07:42:50 AM
Maduro to avoid the financial harassment from US and such has announced a crypto currency for Venezuela. Not exactly sure how this will make it any better then the currency they already have in a free fall. Can release of 'Petro' really help Venezuela?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy/enter-the-petro-venezuela-to-launch-oil-backed-cryptocurrency-idUSKBN1DX0SQ
Venezuela itself has a poor and not very modern country but let's say that when this news came out a few days ago I felt a slight surprise but I believe that with this move it can open the eyes of many countries to this new technology, plus the creation of a new model of money will launch an additional capital for the country, because the same is in serious economic crisis, let's see how the story will unfold in the coming days.
527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: December 07, 2017, 06:42:38 AM
It can happen only if people stop using the bitcoin and start using other crypto currency. The demand will be decrease and supply would high. Which can cause the  bitcoin could be down. But i think its impossible since everyone like it. Bitcoin is the mother of all crypto currency. Even those people who are involve with other Crypto currency move to bitcoin because it gives much benefits as compare to other coins.

I don’t think so that any other crypto has much potential to replace bitcoin because main thing is user circle and the people who are already on bitcoin will never switch to the new emerging coin and the main thing is will any other coin give profit and eases like bitcoin and what is the surety that people will accept that coin as they are praising bitcoin so it’s useless to say that any of coin will come near to bitcoin ever.
528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC be a major in college? on: December 07, 2017, 06:13:06 AM
i think it will be Cryptocurrency. but no body knows the future ahead
Bitcoin is the major of crypto currency and whole crypto market is depending on bitcoin that’s why this will be main subject in the economics college and all this will be done because people will take much serious to the bitcoin and then this will be done in a good way also, bitcoin as a subject will bring the awareness to those who are against bitcoin and it will attract people to learn it and earn huge in professional way.
529  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining ? Tell me About it please on: December 06, 2017, 01:44:38 PM
Preposters already explained, what cloudminers are. They are nowadays not profitable. So it is better to keep the money. If you just want to learn basics about cloudminers and cryptocurrencies in an entertaining way, then visit eobot.com. Use their faucet and click through all items / cryptocurrencies and visit their chat. If you want to generate income with your funds, then keep your BTC or get familiar with projects. You can see them in altcoin section(service announcements and bounties.
Apparently, what should one expect ?
Things are already getting out of hands for most of these guys and at the end; almost all of them will end up as the same thing. Scam! While a lot of users fund will enter one chance !

People, most especially newbies, should stop looking into cloud mining because there is nothing really to get much from those platforms anymore.
530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC getting too expensive to gamble with on: December 06, 2017, 07:15:22 AM
I don't use BTC for gambling anymore because it's fee is too high and it's worth a lot at this point. I prefer using Doge or any other altcoin that isn't worth $300+, LTC is a good choice.

Not only you but many small amount betters are not preferring bitcoin because of its high fee and slow confirmations compared to some of other good altcoins. Even after paying high fee sometimes need to wait a long time to get transaction confirmation so I use either ETH or LTC to play dice game sometimes.
Well, apart from these few reason you have mentioned, there are many other factors which make people refrain from betting with bitcoin. Bitcoin is the most expensive coin of the crypto market and day by day it is highly increasing in value.

Bitcoin is not worth gambling rather it is worth holding for some good time period in order to make good amount of profit when you sell it off. I will never ever gamble with my bitcoin.
531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: December 06, 2017, 06:39:04 AM
I think it helps with roulette a bit. Of course it depends on luck but I'm talking only about the "help". Also I think if you are a math person you have better options of being a good poker player.  Smiley

Well it really boils down to what game you're going to use math on. It certainly won't help you on games that's purely luck reliant like dice and slots. Aside from calculating the money you're going to burn of course.
Yes gambling is far from calculating and math is not an option when we play gambling. Gambling games rely solely on luck and that is a matter of course. If you see anyone saying that he can win the gambling with the help of mathematical calculations then it is a lie !! do not believe and use your mind!

So you want to tell me that all casino owners are the luckiest people on the planet, as they allays win!
You are sooo wrong.. you say "gambling is pure luck" then "use your brain"...
What you mean? That you can use your brain to be lucky?!?!?

All games of chance are 100% pure math, so casino owners are using math in order to win 100% guarantee.
There is no luck in this.
If you know what math is and how to use it, then it will help you, if you don't => nothing will help you.


If math’s is that great that it can tell future with hundred percent accuracy then why you don’t just gamble and win every bet. This way you will become the world's richest person in no time, believe me.

As far as the owners of the casino or gambling websites are concerned, they are the owner which means they can win all the games they play as that is their yard. They are the king of that Empire. However I don't think they gamble and nothing can predict luck or future.
Lol, At least there is someone who understands that mathematics has to do nothing with winning gambling bet or losing it. Gambling is the game which is totally dependent on your luck. This is the only reason there are not as such experts of gambling.

No one can ever tell you how to win the bet, they will simply give you some suggestions about leaving the game when you have some good profit. Gambling is the only game which has no strategies.
532  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: December 06, 2017, 06:07:47 AM
because bitcoins is a future money of the future maybe in 2020 they get higher and higher i will just stock it for safety so if i need a money i will withdraw just need a patience slowly bu surely
As far as the future value of bitcoin is concerned, we all know that it is going to someday touch some unbelievable value and then it would be really out of question to buy bitcoin directly. Bitcoin is the future of world economy and this is why banks are really against bitcoin because bitcoin is offering better services than banks. The transaction fees do not bother until we are making very good profit with it.
533  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Too late for Bitcoin? on: December 06, 2017, 05:02:25 AM
This question will be asked as it continues to reach record highs for years to come . Buy now Laugh later is what ive told my family and friends over the last 18 months today many are  thanking me for sharing with them this great opportunity . Its just the begging stay patient ..... Love Live Laugh and Learn and most importantly share your experiences. 30 days from now we will be back to this conversation at 20,000!!!
Indeed, 20,000 dollars is not a big target for bitcoin the way it is increasing in value, it will be at this price by the mid of 2018. Patience is the key of becoming rich with bitcoin. Bitcoin for sure increases in value over time and does make sincere and patient investors rich beyond limits.

This the thing that I like most about bitcoin, we don’t need to work hard once we have some bitcoin in wallet. Selling them at high prices and grabbing them again in dumps keep profiting you.
534  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is holding bitcoin Greedy? on: December 05, 2017, 12:04:00 PM
Most people now with the rise of bitcoin value, just want to hold bitcoin for as long as they can so that they can maximize their worth. But isn't it a little too greedy to just keep holding bitcoin?
We've all read that story in the school with the moral "Greed is a Curse".
So what if too much greed in bitcoin may backfire? What if, the hodlers end up with nothing?

I don't really think that it's greedy at all. It just so happens that a person wants to earn more. Being greedy is like to want all that you could possibly have. But, once the reason behind the holding is to earn more for the future of yourself, loved ones and so on, then it will be for a good cause, thereby making it reasonable and admirable at the same time. So, it's not actually being greedy.
Lol! It is absurd to link holding of bitcoin with some evil thing such as greed. As you said, it is nothing different from different strategies of making money with bitcoin.

We all know that bitcoin is all the time increasing in value and it is worth holding for few months if you want some good profit. Those who hold bitcoin are most of the time are also working with altcoins such as trading altcoins etc. which simply means that holding is a trick to make money with bitcoin.
535  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: December 05, 2017, 07:11:00 AM
Hopefully you didnt spend that BTC at the time you started the thread. If you are still holding it by now in your wallet, you must be pretty happy with your gains by now!
Yes, He should have mentioned the specific reason for leaving trading but as he did not, we can easily guess the reason. It would be simply that he is going in loss with trading instead of going into profit. Trading is not his cup of tea or maybe he is facing problems in understanding bitcoin. Trading is not simple as it appears, you really need to work a lot to understand the basic rules of trading.
536  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people scam on: December 05, 2017, 06:04:28 AM
Just one reason people cheat is making a profit; Yes the benefits can be divided many things: material benefits, kesenagan, safety, economic adequacy, etc. Honesty no one can do it completely. The most honest person is the one who: Lugu, ediot. Even a religious leader must speak the right thing if answering truth is more risky than not telling the truth let alone concerning the safety of others. just how to solve different ones.

Yes, People simply scam because they are afraid of working hard and earn decent money. They are so sluggish and coward for working sincerely for earning their livelihood. These people are born with evil minds and are the real culprits of the world.

They can never ever be sincere with anyone except for money. Money is above everything for those even relationships are nothing from them in front of money.
537  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin 10.000$!!!! What's Next? on: December 04, 2017, 11:42:22 AM
3 Forks are announced until end of January, people will hold their bitcoins or buy even more bitcoin to get free-coins from the 3 forks. but when there is no new fork with new free coins in sight, people will sell their bitcoins and the price goes down.
Previously people talked about the forks and the price are now at 10k and now I don’t think so any fork coming because values are so high that the dump creation is now so difficult and people are crazy to get bitcoin in their court and if this happen will be very good to earn but the selling point is right up to some extent and people will sell when the prices will be on a stable road so still there are chance that we can buy at low.
538  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what is the right time to cash out? on: December 04, 2017, 11:07:20 AM
I was so nervous that when bitcoin price dropped to 6000$ I was scared to loose more and withdrew my coins only to regret later that it became 8000$.
Please help me with your advice /opinion.

I’ve made this mistake in the past. Sometimes you just have to invest and then not look at it for a few months. If you panic buy and panic sell you’re going to miss out on gains. Cryptocurrencies are high risk investments and there will be volatility so you need to invest money that you can be willing to lose if it goes bad. This will help you be able to buy and hold long term.

With Bitcoin, you are most likely going to make money if you buy and hold for a few years even if the price drops some during that period.
So many people have made this mistake a lot and that is the reason why not knowing the details of what one is investing in is very bad. This forum is not for decoration or signature campaigns alone, there are so many people who have shared stories like this in the past, and the problem is just to ask questions. However, like they always say, every mistake is an experience and we get to learn from it.
539  Economy / Services / Re: FastInvest Signature Campaign on: December 04, 2017, 06:40:13 AM
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540  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: December 01, 2017, 01:08:47 PM
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?
It is true that bitcoin reduces unemployment because it helps people especially those unemployed to still earn their own money even though they are at home or any other place. Working in bitcoin could be your part time job or full time job if you dont have any work. It reduces unemployment in a way that it can be job for anyone.
Bitcoin has definitely opened up new avenues of earning livelihood for many people especially for those who were having digress but unemployed. I have bumped into few people on different forums who have even left their jobs just because they’re doing great with bitcoin than their day jobs. Those people who were depending on others for financial support are now earning for themselves. Bitcoin has in short improved economy.
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