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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mining vs Buying Altcoins, which option is better? on: July 13, 2017, 03:14:12 PM
Trading and mining, both require different skillset.

Doing a successful altcoin trading isn't easy. The crypto markets is fast paced, volatile and is full of shit and dead coins where some are even scams. You need to be good at chart reading and should be able to see the peaks and troughs as they develop. It is possible to earn money quickly here if you stay focused on the movement of many coins at the same time and keep moving your investment around. This will need time to get perfect at and patience is a key.

Now lets come to Altcoin mining. Altcoin mining, unlike Bitcoin mining (where electricity costs, funds availability, and mining hardware are all factors in determining if Bitcoin mining is worth it) simply requires funds and research. Mining is a long term investment. You pay for your hash rate in your chosen coin, then sit back and watch a small amount come back to you each day. Mining is less riskier than trading but profit are minimal. For better profit, mining coin at launch time can earn a good profit. But it is a lot riskier.

I would like to say that, if you want higher profit, can bear higher risk and good at analysis, you can go for trading. If you want little profit coming to you every day with less risk and have technical knowledge, then go for cloud mining (most probably in the first year of mining you would only be able to earn the initial investment you put into mining but can make profit in coming years).
1082  Economy / Services / Re: ► 7 days contest $500 prize ◄ ► ICO lending page design (PSD ONLY) on: July 13, 2017, 11:36:35 AM
I need an ICO lending page design for a client, no need for logo at this moment (logo would be a separate contest).
The design should be unique and not used for any ico before, however, you can take inspiration from other successful ICOS.

TERMS:

All the participators must send their samples via private message only to avoid other people to copy your ideas.
Once you send me your sample, please comment to this thread by: "In for the contest, Read your private message".
I will give my honest feedback for each one of you and i can choose the winner without waiting the contest to end.
 
The winner receives a prize of 500$ (paid in Bitcoin at Preev.com exchange rates).

TIME FRAME:

The contest ends on 20.07.2017  (23.59.59 GMT+2)

Good luck!
I would like to join the contest and will work upon it. But I think you should wait till the last date and make your decision based on all the entries because a good looking landing page would certainly need time and I think that would be fair too.
1083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How will quantum computing affect bitcoin et al. on: July 13, 2017, 06:53:39 AM
There is indeed a threat to SHA256, which is heavily used in Bitcoin's mining process from Quantum computing. Bitcoin would be vulnerable to some variation of Shor's algorithm and quantum computing. But with time Bitcoin will change and get better in terms of security and encryption as there will always be a reasonable algorithm which will be safe from Quantum computing and bitcoin will shift to it. Thus, it will keep on existing.
1084  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Are we over complicating Bitcoin? on: July 13, 2017, 01:20:33 AM
Bitcoin being decentralised will remain a chaos. Just because it is decentralised, for making any major change we need to have a majority which is not the case in centralised currency. A central authority has the major right and changes could be made without anybody knowing anything. But in Bitcoin, everything is transparent and open to discussion. This over complicate things because people start speculation. On one hand this is advantage but on other it creates confusion in not tech people. But I think bitcointalk or a just a google search can help people to solve their problems regarding all the new chaos and confusion related to technical aspects.

Bitcoin being a technology inclusive currency. I think we can't really escape from technical aspects of it. We as a community should help each other and make the situation clear for non tech people and we at the most part are doing that.
1085  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: July 13, 2017, 01:08:38 AM
Actually it is not bitcoin which reduces unemployment. They are people who are creating various employment opportunities using bitcoin (or cryptocurrencies) as a medium. At most of the part bitcoin doesn't help in employing people directly. I regard it as a medium not the one which generates job. Leaving some entrepreneur and miners, everybody else earn Bitcoin as a side earning by doing some small tasks which can very well be paid in any other currency as well (we just using Bitcoin as a medium).

I agree there are cases where people are earning well in bitcoin. But think, can't those jobs be paid in any other currency as well.

Of course these jobs can be paid in other currencies. But a lot of jobs have been created only due to the creation of BTC! This includes everything related to altcoins, ICOs and whatever else is going on in the cryptocurrency scene. People are getting hired for advertising, translating, reviewing, mining, staking, PR, programming, and all sorts of things.
If Bitcoin didn't exist there'd be less jobs, alas, BTC creates employment opportunities.
I have very well stated that it indeed have created opportunity for new business ideas and for miners and programmers ( who with those skillset would have done many other things too). But most of the community use Bitcoin as a source of investment or do some small tasks which can't be termed as employment. So, bitcoin as major doesn't eliminate unemployment.

Actually it is not bitcoin which reduces unemployment. They are people who are creating various employment opportunities using bitcoin (or cryptocurrencies) as a medium. At most of the part bitcoin doesn't help in employing people directly. I regard it as a medium not the one which generates job. Leaving some entrepreneur and miners, everybody else earn Bitcoin as a side earning by doing some small tasks which can very well be paid in any other currency as well (we just using Bitcoin as a medium).

I agree there are cases where people are earning well in bitcoin. But think, can't those jobs be paid in any other currency as well.
If bitcoin could reduce unemployment it might have been recognized and accepted by the governments of all the countries in this world much earlier than most of us. I agree bitcoin is just a medium and it may have helped people to earn good money but we shouldn't forget that the problem of unemployment especially in Asian and African countries is much bigger than the number of people who may have made fortune with bitcoin. Bitcoin can be the best alternative to almost all the existing currencies crypto or fiat but to say that it reduces unemployment is far from the reality if only you knew how big the problem of unemployment is.
I agree to this. Unemployment is much bigger problem than what Bitcoin can solve at this particular time specially in African and Asian countries. Bitcoin can very well be used as an investment asset or for side earning but not really as permanent job for most.
1086  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Accepting Sr. Member+ on: July 13, 2017, 12:59:22 AM
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1087  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: July 13, 2017, 12:56:18 AM
Any new technology is always first used by criminals. For example, cell phones, internet and paypal. There is nothing new in that. Cyber cells always finds a way to tackle it as those technology are required and can't be eliminated on the basis of criminality.

Regarding, bitcoin being used in criminal activities. It is not more of advantage than any other currency. Any currency can easily facilitate crime. It is just like people usually connect it with black market and criminal activities because of initial records (specially those who have never used bitcoin really and live on the news).

Why people forget that Bitcoin is pseudonymous and not anonymous. All of your transactions will always be there on blockchain and that too on open ledger which is accessible to law enforcement agency regardless of borders or any law. Bitcoin is still new and cyber cells are still learning about it. They will improve with time.

More the people will learn about bitcoin, they will get to know how bitcoin is more useful to cops than to criminals.
1088  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Question about MyEtherWallet on: July 12, 2017, 04:54:19 PM
Hello everyone, i have a question about MyEtherWallet and how it work...
I went to MyEtherWallet.com for creating a new wallet, I write a password, save the private key and the UTC file. Next, I go to "View Wallet Info" and it tell me: "How would you like to access your wallet?"
I select private key method and insert my private key: it enter in my wallet, but something is wierd. I went back and instead of writing my private key for enter in the wallet I changed 1 character and entered in another one that's not mine! Now my question is: everyone could enter in a wallet of another person just trying to change just 1 character and send eth in another wallet? I'm sure that can't be so easy, that's why im asking there. Thanks in advance!  Cheesy

That is indeed risky but most of the time changing one character doesn't lead to other wallet's pvt key. I don't know your case but I never saw anything like that before.
Well we have a working solution for it, use keystone file and you are much more safe than pvt keys.
1089  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we push the actual use of Bitcoin ? on: July 12, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
I and many others just hold their bitcoins and wait till it gets worth more. But that is not how a currency should work. A currency is meant to be used in daily trades for groceries and so on.

My question is how can we push the actual use of the bitcoin and what is nessacary to do that ?

I think first, we should wait till the scaling problem is hopefully solved in near future, because right now even if I had f.e. a grocery store, I would not accept Bitcoin as payment becasue of the confirmation time of the tx (I would hand out some coupons which can be bought for BTC)

After this problem is solved this would be my ideas, I hope you help me gather more:

  • Convince organisations like amnesty international to accept bitcoin as donations
  • Convince big internet companies like amazon to accept payments via bitcoin, this should take a while but with some petitions they might consider it (propably better starting with some smaller companies)
  • Start accepting bitcoins yourself, not only on the interent but for example if you are a student and do some private tutoring, and have a small ad for you on a blackboard somewhere, you could print a "Bitcoin accepted" on it.
Actually the problem lies in Bitcoin itself. Bitcoin has a limited supply and thus has inbuilt deflation. Each bitcoin will be worth more and more as the total number of Bitcoins maxes out. Since each bitcoin will be valued higher with each passing day, the question of when to spend becomes important. This way Bitcoin largely becomes an investment asset through which investors can earn higher returns (then why not).

Even if some bigger merchants and sellers start accepting bitcoin. I doubt people will be willing to pay in bitcoin when fiat, an inflationary currency is an available option.
1090  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What does 'Pump and Dump' means in crypto trading ? on: July 12, 2017, 04:23:14 PM
So many wrong answers and such an easy way to get better info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump

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"Pump and dump" (P&D) is a form of microcap stock fraud that involves artificially inflating the price of an owned stock through false and misleading positive statements, in order to sell the cheaply purchased stock at a higher price. Once the operators of the scheme "dump" sell their overvalued shares, the price falls and investors lose their money. Stocks that are the subject of pump and dump schemes are sometimes called "chop stocks".[1]

While fraudsters in the past relied on cold calls, the Internet now offers a cheaper and easier way of reaching large numbers of potential investors.[1]

Yes.

The "pump" is not the increase in price. The pump is the promoting that causes victims to buy, which causes the price to rise. The scammer buys before the pump so that they can get the maximum profit when they sell.

The "dump" is not the fall in price. The scammer dumps the shares at inflated prices to the victims that buy as a result of the pump. The fall in prices happens after the dump when there are no more buyers to support the inflated price.

A "pump group" is a scam. Here is how it works:

1. The scammer creates a "pump group" convincing each member that they are on the inside and that they will profit.
2. The scammer selects a coin and buys it doing their best to pay the lowest price possible.
3. The pump. The scammer announces the time and date when members are supposed to buy.
4. Smarter members buy early, the rest buy at or after the announced time and date.
5. The price starts rising and members and others start buying.
6. The dump. The scammer starts selling as the price rises.
7. The buyers dry up and the price falls.
8. The scammer and some members make money, but everyone else loses.

The pump group scam works because of the belief that the pump is the rise in prices and the dump is the fall in prices.

Finally, this is not all theoretical. I know a guy that does this now, and some old-timers might remember Fontas, who was (and probably still is) a master of pump-and-dump.
You indeed have very well explained pumps and dumps. But what I want to add is Pump and dumps are not termed as scam in a Decentralised market as cryptocurrency market where there is no rules and regulations. It might be unethical on a human level but not scam. Nobody can really questions those admins of pump and dumps group sadly. Traders themselves need to be bit cautious while trading.
1091  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: July 12, 2017, 04:06:14 PM
Actually it is not bitcoin which reduces unemployment. They are people who are creating various employment opportunities using bitcoin (or cryptocurrencies) as a medium. At most of the part bitcoin doesn't help in employing people directly. I regard it as a medium not the one which generates job. Leaving some entrepreneur and miners, everybody else earn Bitcoin as a side earning by doing some small tasks which can very well be paid in any other currency as well (we just using Bitcoin as a medium).

I agree there are cases where people are earning well in bitcoin. But think, can't those jobs be paid in any other currency as well.
1092  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Making profits from trading Crypto TRUE or FALSE? on: July 12, 2017, 04:11:29 AM
The real question is, with all of your trading and research and time and devotion, are you making more profit than someone who just buys and holds? Is the amount of time you are investing actually even giving you more return than holding? The answer is almost certainly no. There is a lot of research that shows the vast majority of traders underperform the market. Even if you make a 10% profit, if the asset you are trading went up by 15% then your trading was all for nothing, and resulted in lower profits. I doubt any person on this forum can outperform the crypto market consistently by trading.
I think that cryptocurrency market is quite uncertain. There are lots of pumps and dumps going on. Traders are generally unaware of the possible reason for the fluctuation of cryptocurrencies. That is the reason for underperforming or loss in crypto trading.

This also differentiate crypto trading from forex. In forex trading there is not much uncertainty and with keeping an eye on latest trends and news, trader can make a better decision. But this doesn't really happen in crypto market which is full of shit coins and are generally driven by whales. Only some major cryptocurrencies are driven by news in market. But they don't always give high profit. They are bit less volatile as compared to other shit coins.

I make lots of profit from trading crypto. One night I made $2,000 while I was sleeping. Cheesy

They key is (and NEVER forget this): BUY LOW, SELL HIGH.

It really is that simple.
I wished it was that simple. You were lucky enough to bet on right currency at right time. There are tons of available currency. Most of which are scam and dead and mostly driven by pumps and dumps. Making a right choice is quite difficult.
1093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we ever see bitcoin lower than 1000$? on: July 12, 2017, 03:25:20 AM
I don't think so, it may touch $1000 mark but wouldn't stay long for their to buy or accumulate( it would be like touch and go). Everything which has reached peak need a correction and it's time for Bitcoin to have some correction but not to the extent of $1000.

Bitcoin price will not reduce to 1000$ in future also.Since bitcoin price gradually increasing due to bitcoin users.It will not reduce to 1000$ .If you had a idea of  inverse your money in bitcoin. You can proceed. Don't think about the slight changes.Your money is safe if you inverse in bitcoin.
I'm sure everybody must have feel worried if the bitcoin price will going down lower than $1000 again, I also have that feeling like that when I'm sure if the bitcoin price will not drop below $1000. Feelings of worry and doubt will exist when the bitcoin price is falling as it is now.

That's true that as an users of bitcoins it makes us worry when we see price going down and same is the scenario at a moment as it can go below $2000 at any point of time and if that happens surely many people will get panic and will start dumping their coins but I don't think that it will go as low as $1000 again.
Less than $1500 might be possible in case of chain split and any of the two blockchain doesn't have major consensus. In that case there might be half supporting the new blockchain and other half the older one. Splitting of bitcoin in two chains with equal value will create a chaos and major price drop as both of them will now compete with each other for being major one.

However, this scenario is least possible but still chances are there. At present all we can do is to speculate. Picture will get clear after August 1.
1094  Economy / Economics / Re: Your plans for 1st august? on: July 12, 2017, 02:48:57 AM
I am dividing my investment ( only what is invested in bitcoin at present, not altcoin investment) in three parts ( not necessarily equal parts)

First part I will invest in any of the top 3 altcoin before 1st August. Because most of people speculated that price of bitcoin will drop after 1st August. Even I have searched a lot and came to conclusion that there are two possible scenarios at present. One being UASF with Segwit2x. This is better one as majority will support new coin in case of chain split and thus price will recover soon. And one UASF without Segwit2x implemented. This will lead to more drastic chain split which will take some time to recover. As the bitcoin will be facing a price drop, most of the people will shift to some altcoin (possibly top ones), thus we would see an increase in price of some altcoins. And after that we can buy back bitcoin at lower price in August.

Second part for bidding on some new altcoin which posses some good potential. There are many on my list and there is major drop in the price of cryptocurrencies (best time to invest) as most likely it will re bounce after pictures gets clear with Bitcoin.

Third part will stay in bitcoin in secure wallet with private keys. I am not abandoning bitcoin completely. I know there would be a dip. But still anything can happen.

In short I will diversify my investment that was earlier with bitcoin. Thus, not making an overall loss in case of any above scenario not working.
1095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: July 11, 2017, 05:47:32 PM
This year will decide the future of Bitcoin. Segwit is quite a big event happening in the history of bitcoin. There are two cases, either activation of UASF without Segwit2x or with Segwit2x. There will be a huge dump in price in both the cases ( might be of 30-40% ). But with latter, the price will re bounce soon whereas it will take quite a more time to get back to its initial level with the first case.

Altogether this year will decide many things. If it all went good. Then we will see a major demand by the end of the year and might be a major hike in price too.
I am not fully aware of what will really happen in August 1 as there is no clear outcome, and also I have spend a considerate time for me researching on the said topic. What I am always reading is that it needs a lot of support compared to other cryptocurrencies in which won't fail without the support. With the support needed we will see Bitcoin not falling in price as said by the other contributors. As what I interpret with that is I am thinking that they are talking about investors and traders not selling off their position.
Actually the thing is that if a split occurs, bitcoin will likely begin existing on two blockchains in parallel, resulting in two versions of the cryptocurrency. If one of them will get a clear majority from miners in a coming time then that coin would regain its value and hence everything will come back to normal.
1096  Economy / Economics / Re: When to buy and sell bitcoin on: July 11, 2017, 03:12:42 PM
I speculate that right before August 1st the price will dip significantly, and that would be prime time to buy. Aim for anything lower than 2k (hopefully it goes way below that). Once that happens, people will start panic selling. Then don't buy or sell after August 1st for a few weeks for everything to settle down, and BTC will probably head towards 4k by the end of the year. Those are my 2 cents.

In fact you could have a very bad ambitions for bitcoin in quite some time, but that all should also be based on data or analysis that you have. For if you say or give a prediction of unfounded then all just something like garbage. Be someone who invest properly and talk based on fact or not derived from the assumption that you could not be in full resposibility. bitcoin is indeed going down, but it will not be lower
 
I don't agree with you that bitcoin will not go any lower.
If a split occurs, bitcoin will likely begin existing on two blockchains in parallel, resulting in two versions of the cryptocurrency. Expect traders to quickly re-price the value of both, likely leading to massive volatility. This scares community and hence results in panic selling. Most of the bitcoin holders have already temporarily shifted to altcoins till the events unfold and some clearer picture comes out. Price is set to dip after Segwit. It will definitely recover but after a short while.
1097  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: July 11, 2017, 02:44:38 PM
This year will decide the future of Bitcoin. Segwit is quite a big event happening in the history of bitcoin. There are two cases, either activation of UASF without Segwit2x or with Segwit2x. There will be a huge dump in price in both the cases ( might be of 30-40% ). But with latter, the price will re bounce soon whereas it will take quite a more time to get back to its initial level with the first case.

Altogether this year will decide many things. If it all went good. Then we will see a major demand by the end of the year and might be a major hike in price too.
1098  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is BTC for you? on: July 11, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
Bitcoin has changed many things on global level without any doubt. On the personal level, it has changed me in entirely different way. Before bitcoin I had zero knowledge of investment, economics, trading. I was indeed good at computers and its technical aspects. Now after spending two years, if not perfect but still I am well versed with many of the economic concepts and earning quite well and helping others too. Smiley
1099  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: July 10, 2017, 01:15:59 PM
Investment strategy changes according to circumstances and time. At present, with lots of uncertainty in bitcoin market and price is set to experience a dip after Segwit2x and UASF because of panic selling, be ready to sell your bitcoin and buy any of the top 5 altcoin before 21st July. Altcoin will increase in price with devaluation of bitcoin. In August buy bitcoin again at lower price. This way you can make double profit.

What all I can say is keep a look on market and some major news, then make your own strategy.
1100  Economy / Economics / Re: crypto is the future, make money of it on: July 10, 2017, 07:50:11 AM
Should not be so much excited about it, we can loose the money too if world turns upside down. It's not just having thought that bitcoin is great performer today and it will be in the future as well. I am guessing bitcoin should be considered in the present situation only for investing into it. I know every one says long term investment and all but who knows about the future.
As long as it is profitable there is nothing wrong with it. I just want to see how long these companies keep fulfilling their promises and if they could fulfill what they envisioned then those companies will be successful in the long run.
That’s right. As long as bitcoins keep fulfilling investor’s demands, they will dominate the world and I believe the companies will never ever break their promises. The world will soon have legal digital currency in the form of bitcoins. So I strongly believe that everyone should invest in bitcoins to have bright future.
Many more companies would start accepting bitcoin soon. All what is needed is to increase the use cases of bitcoin. The main obstacle is slow transactions and high fees. Let see what happens after Segwit2x. If everything goes successful. We will see fast transactions and low fees. Then bitcoin can truly be used as a currency and so will increase its acceptance.
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