the idea of a trusted system is what a hardware wallet meant to be.. not needing internet or a computer.
as soon as you introduce the internet and requirement of downloading a browser extension or bitcoin client. its less than 100% trusted

the next gen hardware wallets should be that the privkey is locked to a inaccessable data source. and just receives public keys via NFC and sends out signed tx's via NFC.

if you need to reset it. you do it from an offline system. not via a browser extension.

john nash although a maths genius, had other mental issues. which got worse.
he suffered medical problems too.
although he done the occassional 1 hour talks.. he lacked the attention span and abilities to have created bitcoin

i do laugh at how trainwreck is now backtracking to say he "influenced" satoshi, and was not actually satoshi..

anyway trainwreck. have a good night. you cannot provide any proof and you are just repeating yourself now about how we cannot be clicking your clickbait if we are not agreeing with your failed attempts of showing proof he created bitcoin.

your clickbait contains nothing of substance.

trainwrecks mindset
there was a caveman who was smartr then his peers. he mad fire.. every other living thing bowed down to him in shock of his brilliance and power.

later
someone produced a combustion engine car.
common sense if it involves combustion then it must have some underlying understanding of fire..
a few people years ago harp on about was the combustion engine enspired by the caveman inventing fire..

later

trainwreck makes a statement
"cave men created the car"
followed by
"i am the first person to blah blah blah, click my link give me fame click my link.. i need fame, i need glory, click my link"

"if you dont bow down and give me glory you didnt click my link, so click my link, click my link give me fame click my link"

replace to

lol RESEARCH HARDER

2015 - http://www.indiabitcoin.com/can-bitcoin-be-john-nashs-ideal-money-newsbtc/
2015 - http://www.coindesk.com/did-john-nash-help-invent-bitcoin/
2014 - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30/business-finance-investing/john-nash-created-bitcoin-1432655/
2013 - https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2013/11/11/game-theory-and-bitcoin/

trainwreck.. your not original. you also have not even shown any proof. just opinions. and as i said a few times your not the first to try saying it.

research harder,

lol.. dang this trainwreck cant see passed his own nose.

he thinks he has found something big, but doesnt realise that he is like a few years out of date in all his research..
people have already supplied far more stuff than trainwreck has and this john nash ploy of his is not original.

seems he needs to be the one that does more research

put it this way, they are not 100% fool proof.

envision this.

a hacker makes a trojan with a tool the emulates the browser extension that trezor uses.

so it sits on a computer and waits for someone to plug in their trezor.
next some victim plugs in their trezor. and the trojan displays what looks like the usual trezor page. but this time. its actually the trojan. saying

"error on device, to restore please type in seed"
then the pin number.

and now the hacker has all your details to duplicate your keys on his own device.

hardware wallet are an extra layer of security above just having the private key on you computer.. but dont think they are fool proof. they still need to work on that

hal finney was hal finney..

hal finney was not satoshi.

but yes many people did help or atleast inspire satoshi to do what he did. but none of those names are satoshi

yes hal finney helped alot and many people hold hals involvement to high regard. i rate hal far higher then i would rate adamback for instance.

coindesk is not the developer of bitcoin.. coindesk is just trying clickbait motives to start some distraction techniques to get people involved in kardasian-esq social drama to not be talking about the real roundtable discussions about real code/bitcoin issues.

in short.. real world comparison.
its like if fox news was talking about some celebrity drama.. change the channel immediatly and instead find out what new laws are trying to be passed through the senate secretly. dont waste months discussing the social drama of celebrities on the news... its all a distraction

fantasists: bitcoin made by extra terrestrial little green men aliens

realists: bitcoin made by non americans, thus deemed illegal aliens if they tried to move to america

lol research better, you are just pointing fingers but not researching.. typical
you have spent too much time in r/bitcoin and got cabin fever.

open your mind and look at who is holding the door shut on you from seeing the real world.
look at who is whispering stories into your ear where they will protect you
look at who is offering you the teddy bear to help you sleep

research research research, if you decline to research and prefer to just point fingers. you are only letting yourself down.
avoid replying until you include some research and something of substance.

such as knowing who is paid/linked to who

the craig wright, andressen, adam back social drama is all orchestrated by coindesk, who has ownership stakes in blockstream(adamback) and bloq(gavin andressen).

if you didnt realise it, andressen is still part of the side you desire to control you, so when you look at the ties to who is paying them(barry silbert(coindesk)). you realise the game being played on you. you might wake up to this fake social drama.
the whole last 2 years of distractions of the r3cked campaigns was to point their own actions in a different direction by making a couple of their own the fall guys so people think they are safe under the control of centralists.

maybe less time being conned reading con artists scripts made to distract you, and instead doing your own research would help you more

lol this whole forum is about bitcoin.
craig wright is scamming the FIAT economy.

and if you actually read some code, you will realise that you are the one that is in a lucid dream and have been conned into thinking that cores centralist ideals are decentralised. so if you want to talk about scammers. im afraid to inform you, you have been scammed.

what you should be desiring is diversity, not centralist control.
what you should be desiring is where users get the choice, not devs.
what you should be desiring is where you can do your own independant thinking, not reading some script of fake doomsdays.

i suggest you stop acting like the core kings will look after you, and instead realise you have been conned. and dont let this social drama distract you from that awakening. and then do your own research

learn consensus
learn diversity
learn independant free choice
learn bitcoins ethos

and have a nice day.
or
dont learn everything, keep hugging onto core like a teddybear that will protect you while you sleep, and have a goodnight

'bigblockers'

lol
2 vs 4 which is bigger

he used his mind and written and verbal words. he didnt do things like learn c++
he was a theorist and white paper writer. he left it for other people to translate the math into programming.

im pretty sure you havnt really dug deep into what he done in his later years (beyond lectures), after the millenium to realise that he is not really the coder level capable person to have wrote bitcoin.

but as i said.. keep digging

john nash was a maths guy not a code guy... keep trying though

have you seen how many pies barry silbert has his finger in..

because simply changing a 1 to a 2. is just kicking the stone down the road. where the community then have to beg devs for a 3 instead of a 2

thus we are playing the oliver twist script of "please sir can i have some more"  dev:"MORE!?!?!"
then the devs spoonfeeding an implementations with 3000000 instead of 2000000

however if devs just have an options/setting where, while compiled people can just change the value themselves.. there would be no spoonfeeding and no kicking the can down the road, and no 2 year waiting for the less technical people to be spoonfed, because they can feed themselves

which is the whole point of bitcoin

jon matonis - coindesk contributor

gavin andresen, working on Bloq... Bloq funded by........ barry silbert.

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-plausible theory-
im 90% sure adam backs name would be mentioned in the who is satoshi drama

it seems reasonable to assume
if only people didnt pick up on the fake sig so fast last year, we would have had the faker craig then proclaim how adam back was cough*his*cough inspiration and the 3rd musketeer.. but it had to be put back for a few months to let the dust settle. mainly because craig got outed as a fraud..

but also segwit couldnt be released in mid 2016 so the code was still resembling the real satoshi's original variables and format. but now segwit is out,(though not activated) would show it to be the complete rewrite of code in adam backs favour to now be an adam back construct.
completely different to satoshis original code. eg MAXBLOCKSIZE BASE and WEIGHT

as a way to try proclaiming bitcoin requires segwit or it isnt bitcoin, ... if this whole drama ends up as having adam back mentioned as a third musketeer.

ofcourse, adam back didnt offer any code between 2008-2013 and even though the reality is that bitcoin has not had segwit for the last 7 years so segwit or its variables/concepts is not bitcoin.. i can see core devs are desperate to retain their corporate grip on bitcoin, so its all plausible

kinda regret posting the old pic of gleb.. kinda sidetracked the topic a bit too much.
thought it would have put a few smiles on faces.. not the opposite

actually satoshi wanted people to be sceptical. a good dev is someone that wants people to try hacking systems so they can see the problems that need to be fixed.
the old saying "hack it until it doesnt break"

but sitting back and kissing ass because you fear hurting a dev, will just make the dev hand out weak/flawed code because they are not being told that things are wrong.