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1521  Economy / Speculation / Re: When the market cap hits 1,000,000,000,000, what will be the BitCoin Price? on: December 14, 2017, 09:44:01 PM
if market cap reach 1 trillion dollars which mean the price should be double from now on.
because right now we're reaching $500 billion dollars and current our price around $16.000,
so approximately we should see it for more than $30.000 or around that point.
when will it happen ?
i do not know and i believe it will not happen in a few months later because we need to take some correction before making this kind of movement again.
but everything can be happen with it,as long as it goes higher i believe many people will happy with it.
and me too will happy for it.
because we need to consider our current total supply and its price at the same time.
well that is the requirement to reach that point and it's very unlikely to happen in a few months later.
at least it need a year or two years to accomplish it logically.
1522  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is currently at the indecision position. on: December 14, 2017, 08:50:32 PM
it's not 'indecision' but instead it's 'uncertainty'.
they did intentionally to make the confusion in traders mind.
because if other traders know what will happen with its price in the future,they can not maximize their profit.
and it may be can lead them to loss other than profit.
logically the price will be dumped due to a few factors,
we're needing money in order to make our party whenever we're reaching the end of the year.
also other stuff that we need to pay or buy whenever we're reaching the end of the year.
but we can not see the sign that the market will do that kind of movement,
in other word,they want to make a confusion in our mind.
and when people start to scream about dump or pump,they will make a movement based on the opposite from what people predicted.
1523  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predict the bitcoin price before 2018 starts on: December 14, 2017, 07:37:33 PM
right now we're expecting a correction that will happen in the end of this year,
because there're a lot of factors that can push the price to make downward movement.
for example vacation,progress reports(i called it closing) for company or group or something like that and our needs.
so if we're not seeing a significant pump that will happen this days or next week,
we should see a downward movement that caused by them.
but everything can be happen because the more negative we think about it,
the market will move to the positive one and something like that.
whales always find a way to break the pattern to maximize their profit.

i hope we can stabilize ourself above $20.000 level or even more than that.
but it's very unlikely in my opinion.
1524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In practice, what are some methods of cracking anonymity in Bitcoin transactions on: December 14, 2017, 06:45:23 PM
At the expense of hacking is not sure. But if you leave your bitcoin address in your social network, then you will identify yourself.

cracking and identifying are totally different thing in the first place my friend,
if you're leaving your address in your social network or some places and people looking at it,
it can not be considered as cracking because all that we need to do is identify it.
until now i am not really sure to say it's a way to crack it because it's very unlikely,
but it has a possibility to crack it or to find a way to do it.
for your references go here and take a look about it :
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/22/is-it-possible-to-brute-force-bitcoin-address-creation-in-order-to-steal-money
also bitcoin transaction is not hidden,
so there're no anonimity behind it,so as long as you can find who is the address holder.
you can find him/her.
1525  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market uncertainty on: December 14, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
i do not think it's totally due to inexperienced but instead it's an experienced one whenever we're making any move.
in my perspective everything is arranged by the experienced one,
for example,do you think who is leading the market to reach that point (uncertainty) ?
of course it's all due to them the experienced one,they're manipulating the market and at the same time they're manipulating the traders.
also the headlines and something like that were used by them to trigger the movement.
in other words,the price pumping or not it's all not because of the inexperienced one but instead it's the opposite.
(they did that to maximize their profit from their position,that is why i said experienced one was the reason behind this movement)
1526  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Yobit.net exchange - legitimate or not ? on: December 14, 2017, 03:48:38 PM
legitimate ? nobody know about that.
because they're only good an exchanges no more no less than that.
no matter what exchanges that you mention they will do something stupid in the process and they can not guarantee your money at all.
even if they're regulated under law in their country.
it will never change the fact that they're only gooad as an exchange.
but if we're talking about the worst one,i think it should be yobit.
even though many exchanges doing a stupid thing in the back,most of them did not did it openly like yobit did to their costumers.
that is why many people recommend other people to not doing any trade in there.
basically if they had a problem with yobit,none of them can solve it.
because they're not responding to our problem and simply ignore it
1527  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transaction fee is fixed or not? on: December 14, 2017, 02:46:57 PM
Its depends on your transaction if your transaction is bigger you know your fee is big.me sometimes i withdraw wth amount of 0.003 that is only small fee

Are you really making transaction or simply blabbering here. Whether you send 0.003 btc or 0.3 btc you will get the same fee for both the amount so understand that first before using the wallet. Fees would be differs according to wallet provider.
Some desktop wallet shows you the cheap price as fees but it takes much time you are making with the desktop wallets. Kindly try to have funds in multiple wallet so when you needs that time you will be take it out easily.

well he might be telling us about the fees instead of the transaction.
we can tell that from the way he's talking  to us,i believe he's using google translate to translate it.
so take it easy my friend.

the transaction fees is not fixed or at this moment we will not see that.
because many people can change their fees based on their goal.
for example i am using 100.000 satoshi for every transaction that i made,i did it because i want to get my Bitcoin as soon as possible.
compared to other people,
i am using a fees that slightly higher from average transaction that many people used.
in other words,
the fees will not fix at certain number until we're finding a new technology to fasten the transcation.
also based on the total that we're spending on satoshi,
we also can see the change that can be happen with its value when the price is pumping or dumping.
1528  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price prediction for December 31, 2017 on: December 14, 2017, 01:56:46 PM
how about to the opposite side that will happen in a few days later on ?
lets talk about our activity that will we do when we're reaching the end of the year ?
for example a company,
they will make a report for their activity for the year and will make a calculation about their progress.
does not that mean the price will be pushed due to this ?
other than that i believe many people will liquidate some of their Bitcoin to pay their needs or to take some vacation ?
i believe a day or two days before the end of this year there'll be a downward movement caused by peoples,groups.
so that mean the price is very unlikely to reach $20.000 in the end of this year.
(of course it will only happen if there're no suddend pump that will happen with it and pushing it to around $30.000)
1529  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much will be the bitcoin's value grow in 2018 ? on: December 14, 2017, 01:07:41 PM
how about stabilization with the price first before making another movement with the price ?
to be honest right now we're seeing a lot of crazy thing,
we're overhyping it because the price moving like a crazy toward this level without a significant correction.
indeed lately we heard a lot of good news that happened with bitcoin and will happen with it in the near future,
but the problem that we're facing right now with the network itself not solved yet,
do not you think it whould be nice for us to see a significant improvement that will happen with Bitcoin in 2018 and then stabilizing its price.
afterward we can make a good move,
because we need an improvement to prevent Bitcoin become a bubble in the future.
if we keep moving like this,i am afraid Bitcoin will be a bubble in no time.
1530  Economy / Exchanges / Re: HitBTC offline? on: December 14, 2017, 12:26:39 PM
in my opinion there're 2 thing that happened with hitbtc that more likely happen :

1.they're not offline buy instead they're upgrading their system due to attack from the DDoS'er.
until now i can log in to their website but before entering their website,
we need to pass the security check.
so it's not surprising to see them down whenever we try to log in to their website at this moment,
give them a couple days to fix it and we can see  do our daily activity in there.
at least for now it's not stable yet at this moment.

2.you can see that lately cloudflare have a problem,
and caused a lot of sites that using it to get something like this,
even bitcointalk.org has a problem similiar to hitbtc.com.
1531  Economy / Speculation / Re: Million Dollar Bitcoin on: December 14, 2017, 11:44:34 AM
If we're talking about the future nobody know about it exactly because everything can be happen with it,
as a beginner in cryptocurrency i do not recommend to have that kind of fantasy at this moment,
i think it would be better for you to set your logical goal other than thinking about something like that.
if we're do some simple math about our fantasy right now,
we can see that we need to have a ridiculously upward movement to reach that point which is more than 50x times from now on.
right now many people expecting a downrun movement because of a crazy movement that we faced a weeks ago,
in other words the price will be fall in the future or stabilize itself first before make another move.
so,it would be best for you to set your sell order for upcoming months and then buying it lower from before and holding it,
other than buying it and holding it until it reach a million dollars.
1532  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is their a protection on exchanges if you sell for way less? on: December 14, 2017, 10:47:25 AM
you do not need to worry if you're using a centralized exchange,
because if you accidentally put the price at $100 while the price currently around $10.000 in their buy order,
automatically your sell order will be placed at $10.000 because it's their mechnasim.
but bear it in your mind,it will only works if you're using a centralized exchange like Bittrex,Kraken,Bitfinex,Poloniex and others.
if you're using a decentralized exchange your order will be executed based on your order,
what i mean is currently we're around $10.000 but you put your order around $1000,
if you do that your order will be executed at $1000,because decentralized exchange is a place for buyer and seller doing the transaction based on their action.
to put it simply,decentralized exchange is like a traditional market.
you're doing the transaction with the seller or buyer directly
1533  Economy / Speculation / Re: South Korean gov't holds emergency meeting re curbing cryptocurrency speculation on: December 13, 2017, 06:56:09 PM
nope i do not think so,
because as far as i can see there're a lot of confusion happened with them.
booming that happened with cryptocurrency lately made them think about to the opposite move that they're going to take.
the reason behind this confusion due to income that can be generated from the taxes.
in here i can see that they're trying to regulate their local exchanger and also lifting ICOs ban.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/south-koreas-financial-services-commission-plans-to-reverse-ico-ban
(of course they're only allowing a professional player to open up that kind of project and using ICOs system).
i hope it'll only become another japanese.
1534  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late, to invest? on: December 13, 2017, 05:07:01 PM
We are at the begin of the mania phase in my books.
- Institutional Investors [CHECK]
- Media Attention [CHECK]
- Public [CHECK]
- Enthusiasm [CHECK]
- Greed [Coming]
- Delusion [Nope]

So plenty of room for growth  Cool



to be honest i do not think we're moving like that chart,
because that chart only works for Bubble assets and in my opinion Bitcoin is far from Bubble,at least it's not the bubble at this moment.
lately we're seeing a lot of massive run due to japanese positive move and also other news that we're currently waiting for.

it's never late to invest our money into it because it still has a lot of room to grow in the future.
it has not implemented yet fully in our life but the demand ridiculously high,
which mean whenever it started to do it and successfully implement it,does not that mean the price will increase a lot in the future?
1535  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What market should be the best to trade: BTC - ETH - USDT? on: December 13, 2017, 02:52:36 PM
everything have their own weakness and so far the stable one should be USDT,
also other than that everybody have their own future goal.
for example me,
i am valuing all of my portfolio using Bitcoin,no matter what happen with the price as long as my Bitcoin keep increasing i get profit.
why i am valuing my portfolio using Bitcoin ? because i believe bitcoin will be used in the world wholly.
and i believe i can multiple my profit by holding it in form of Bitcoin.
other than valuing it using Bitcoin,i think for a short term valuing our portfolio under ETH is not a bad idea either.
because currently ETH price already surpressed a lot by the whales,
i think in the future we should see it for more than 0,05BTC or around that.
1536  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how risky is day trading? on: December 13, 2017, 01:51:12 PM
if we're talking about the risk that we're facing when doing the day trade i think it's all depend on the situation and strategy,
in my opinion no matter volatility is it as long as you have a good foundation/strategy it's not risky at all,
the only problem that we will face if we're not good enough is our portfolio value decrease nothing more than that.
(of course we're not talking about margin/leverage or something like that,because using that thing is like a gamble and it's not recommended to do so).
we're only losing our money if we're selling it cheaper from our buy order,
that mean if we're doing a daily trade and have a financial back up plus good strategy,
no matter what price you're buying at,as long as you have that.
in the future you'll get the profit.
so it's all about strategy and movement that we will take in the future.
1537  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Stabilizing At $20K on: December 13, 2017, 12:37:10 PM
Stabilization means put bitcoin under control which will be so hard.

Demand and Supply control price and Demand unstable these days =  unstable price.

after CBOE may be given some Stabilization.

personally, hope to stable at any range

Nope stabilization will not happen these years i believe,
you should understand right what is the reason behind the pump that we're seeing this lately and for the past few years ?
it's all about the demand itself,
we're aware Bitcoin only has around 21 Millions in total circulation while people in this world more than 10x times from bitcoin total supply.
stabilization will work as long as there're no more demand or the demand itself do not increase or remain the same.
but it's very impossible because if Bitcoin get recognized by many people,
slowly the demand itself will keep increasing until we're reaching the peak.
no matter what is it,CBOE or whatever.
it will not change the fact that Bitcoin will never can stabilize at this moment.
1538  Economy / Speculation / Re: 3 Reasons Why Bitcoin Will Reach $500,000 on: December 13, 2017, 11:53:35 AM
how about 3 reasons why Bitcoin will never reach $500.000 in the future ?
first of all we need to know what is Bitcoin itself and what is Bitcoin goal,mission and vision in the future ?
also what is the real problem/weakness that Bitcoin have currently ? and the impact caused by those weakness ?
many people only talked about how great Bitcoin is and it will reach this 'xxxx' in the future.
while right now many people could not send their Bitcoin or their transaction stuck.
do you think people will implement it in the future if we do not have anything to discover ?
how many dollars that we need to spend for every transaction that we will make ? are you sure they'll use it or implement it in their store ?

Do you really hate Bitcoin why are you here?
This place is bitcointalk.


lol,
who said i hate Bitcoin that much while i am very happy to see it around $10.000++ a few weeks ago ?
do even understand what i am talking about,huh ?
you're creating a lot of threads and talking about a millions,$500 hundreds and bla bla bla.
but i can not see you're talking about our current problem that we face.
it's not a small matter you know,
look at our current network and if you do some calculation do you think it will work when people start to use it wholly ?
Lightning Network or something like that has not implemented yet,as far as i heard it's tested a few days ago but i can not hear anything from it until now.
and because of this problem you can see a lot of people seeing it as a joke because the fees that we need to pay for every transaction.
plus the time that we get that thing in our wallet.
lastly,indeed it's bitcointalk.
that is why i am talking about Bitcoin and telling you about it,am i right ?
1539  Economy / Speculation / Re: 3 Reasons Why Bitcoin Will Reach $500,000 on: December 13, 2017, 10:18:35 AM
how about 3 reasons why Bitcoin will never reach $500.000 in the future ?
first of all we need to know what is Bitcoin itself and what is Bitcoin goal,mission and vision in the future ?
also what is the real problem/weakness that Bitcoin have currently ? and the impact caused by those weakness ?
many people only talked about how great Bitcoin is and it will reach this 'xxxx' in the future.
while right now many people could not send their Bitcoin or their transaction stuck.
do you think people will implement it in the future if we do not have anything to discover ?
how many dollars that we need to spend for every transaction that we will make ? are you sure they'll use it or implement it in their store ?
1540  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: are the majority of the people part time traders? on: December 09, 2017, 06:27:28 PM
the majority traders should be part time players,
only some people use it as their full job in their real life because it's very risky.
we can lose all of our money in the second,that is why many people choose trade as their side job to get profit.
i always remembered this from friend of mine :
'Trading is very hard and risky,you can lose all of your money without noticing it but at the same time you can gain a lot from it.
remember,do not put all of your money into it.
always play something that you can afford to lose,and be smart'
i can be considered as a full time traders because i spent a lot of my time doing the trade.
i am looking at it not as a job but instead it's my passion,i really like doing the trade.
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