ETH, also known as "speculation coin" (read further), is now a joke because of several factors (e.g. the bots, the manipulative marketing, the shill attempts at spreading FUD against Bitcoin). Surely ETH has a lot of potential, but it was never designed to compete with Bitcoin. Each can have its own place unless one gets sucked in by corporate manipulation. I think he would say "Price isn't an accurate way to tell the ethereum's successfulness"
Which is correct right now, i.e. ETH being overpriced. Also, as far as i know, Ethereum isn't meant to be a currency anyway.
Correct. But this could also be the beginning of the decline of the price of the Bitcoin because Ethreum will do everything so that he is superior to the Bitcoin
Here's an illustrative way of showing how Bitcoin 'feels' about ETH:  Quite interesting post from you here. What potential you see? And a lot as well? I cannot see sth for really earning money yet. And if there is it might be done by a central company or even by a fork.... |
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They should better ban the rest of EUR as well...
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Another intranet coin...
Maybe just good to create the local infrastructure and later people only want the real inter coin.
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To me it looks a bit like the west tries to keep the price below $500. Will be interesting to see how this plays the next 24-48 hours. Definitely one of the the most exciting weekends since a long time. Popcorn!!  Pretty clear, china will also do the coding from know on, so all cheer in Chinaaaaaaa  |
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Cristal claer, its all about taking over control by increasing the grade of complexity and mess around with regulations like some magic numbers 1mb... Then barking at all others , laudating own stuff and rule by dividing.
Satoshi's original plan was for Lauda's cat to take over the network, not the 'gavinista'. Did you not know this? I predict the Gavinista Jihad against segwit will be just as successful as the one against OP_CLTV. That is, not at all.
I was told by the 'Gavinista' that Bitcoin is practically dead. Why is the price going up  I'm pretty certain that a certain 'group' of people at a certain subreddit don't even care, as they continue with ad hominem and ETH promotion.
Things would be much simpler if the remaining 'opposers' just accepted Segwit at the moment. You can then focus on a HF afterwards. What Antpool is trying to do now does not help the situation at all. The network was practically at a point where consensus has been met. With KNC gone, Classic is completely done. Again, I feel divided by you and I m not. I KNOW 'core' is doing very good job, most of the time and GMax is a really strong thinker. I ve seen P. Wullie and Gavin both and both are really persons I like. Further the topic is in fact not so dividing as well its almost just about the timing where it differs. So close I d just like to see a working compromis where core moves the HF best in one go with SW and if SW is not fully tested and ready a 2MB or best no limit ( I do not like magic numbers) before just to fix really the fee issue and get a signal out, bitcoiners are ALL on track again. Easy & Cheers |
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its hopeless, you will forever believe 8MB blocks would break bitcoin.
They would. Even a 2 MB block size limit could, but that's what the 'hacky workaround' with those limitations is all about. It is you who does not know things, and it is you who is being fed lies. Do you even know what the difference between linear and quadratic scaling means? Have you even heard of the big O? bitcoin runs on a raspberry pi.. with the new libsecp256k1 it makes validating alot faster, so that means 2mb is no problem. especially on standard computers that are less then 10 years old (basic majority) and still ok for older computers and the said raspberry Pi.. but he Lauda thinks everyone should stick to Pi or jump to massive servers.. he cannot see the normal home computer category in the middle the only time that linear vs quadratic becomes a noticable problem is not really today.. but when LN becomes a thing. when they will be throwing out LARGE settlement transactions. the linear vs quadratic debate is not about normal user transactions.. but about preventing a bottleneck to allow LN to happen smoothly. in the future. i feel sorry when people think its their right to try dissing bitcoin to try to sway people to think all these new features are needed to move people onto sidechains and second layer solutions which wont be as secure or distributed. Cristal claer, its all about taking over control by increasing the grade of complexity and mess around with regulations like some magic numbers 1mb... Then barking at all others , laudating own stuff and rule by dividing. |
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... and if there is real money to be earned with, it will be covered and run by a private company, GmbH, Ing, AG, .blockstream ... finally...
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to the classic HF shills: must be tiring to be shunned and dismissed for so long.
... And you re still barking for the separation. What a shame... Yeah. STF(ork)U or GT(fork)O. It's been pretty much the hardforkers' only choices for more than 3 years now. Hey, in your deepest core you are a softie! Get you a saucage  |
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to the classic HF shills: must be tiring to be shunned and dismissed for so long.
... And you re still barking for the separation. What a shame... |
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I try to unify back - if there is incoherence needed - fine. Just try to brake the ice...
Don't mind him. He's just pushing crap so he can short Bitcoin to its grave. Funny thing is: all the shill-hunters thinks he's on their team. Yeah - you always have to fight with the nasty front side dog before you can deliver the post ... |
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Why are you big blockers still in Bitcoin?
I thought the majority of "big blockers" now regard Bitcoin as a failed experiment and willing to let go of it and move on to alt coins like Ethereum?
What does Bitcoin provide that Ethereum doesn't?
I regard Bitcoin as the gold of crypto and the fact that it has stayed resilient against recent attacks from corporations and governments proves that it's still "the gold of crypto".
But that's not the opinion of a "big blocker"...
fully agree with you.. them bigblockers who love blockstream and want 5.7mb blocks. have lost faith in bitcoin. they complain it cant scale they say the only solution is to move to different layers and sidechains(altcoins). they argue and say anything that is part of the open community is bad because they only want one business to destroy bitcoin now. if they really want to have blockstream control. maybe they should just move over to "liquid" and play with them altcoins, pretending its bitcoin but faster.. they really need to just admit that they want to bloat bitcoin so their favorite altcoin can take the bitcoin fame.. this is so fucked up. man you need to get yourself checked for psychological disorders. Yes it is and every small blocker should pay now the average needed btc fee for any new post on this topic. Have fun to get it calced correctly :-) you n00bs are so incoherent its just pitiful. fork off already. I try to unify back - if there is incoherence needed - fine. Just try to brake the ice... |
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Why are you big blockers still in Bitcoin?
I thought the majority of "big blockers" now regard Bitcoin as a failed experiment and willing to let go of it and move on to alt coins like Ethereum?
What does Bitcoin provide that Ethereum doesn't?
I regard Bitcoin as the gold of crypto and the fact that it has stayed resilient against recent attacks from corporations and governments proves that it's still "the gold of crypto".
But that's not the opinion of a "big blocker"...
fully agree with you.. them bigblockers who love blockstream and want 5.7mb blocks. have lost faith in bitcoin. they complain it cant scale they say the only solution is to move to different layers and sidechains(altcoins). they argue and say anything that is part of the open community is bad because they only want one business to destroy bitcoin now. if they really want to have blockstream control. maybe they should just move over to "liquid" and play with them altcoins, pretending its bitcoin but faster.. they really need to just admit that they want to bloat bitcoin so their favorite altcoin can take the bitcoin fame.. this is so fucked up. man you need to get yourself checked for psychological disorders. Yes it is and every small blocker should pay now the average needed btc fee for any new post on this topic. Have fun to get it calced correctly :-) |
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Why are you big blockers still in Bitcoin?
I thought the majority of "big blockers" now regard Bitcoin as a failed experiment and willing to let go of it and move on to alt coins like Ethereum?
What does Bitcoin provide that Ethereum doesn't?
I regard Bitcoin as the gold of crypto and the fact that it has stayed resilient against recent attacks from corporations and governments proves that it's still "the gold of crypto".
But that's not the opinion of a "big blocker"...
Still here for rescue and try to get back ALL into the boat + helping to start THINK BIG ! (hope this bRAKEs the ICE a bit where other in charge fail) |
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If the annual inflation is less than the world economy growth, I think that is deflationary currency.
And looks centrally controlled,too. No real need to change fiat into as store of value.... |
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Segwit has been public for a long time... Block 0 on the current segnet has a date in January, and segwit is live on testnet now. Will there be an ICO?  BAAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAA!!! Best this week! Edit: I can't stop laughing!! If there is a bounty I can translate in Greek! I dont like Bounty, give me a DAO. |
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SegWit or DIE! hard to believe core has so much support... Is there sb out who can bREAKE the ICE and unfreeze the block size limit? |
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You dont bother change bitcoin protocol because its impossible, especially for marketing or political reasons.
What is the protocol? 21 Mio. fix, Good, volatility = 0. Blocksize fix ? not good, we need some volatiliy. User adoption rate & market price ? volatility wellcome! But the fee volatility thats coming up now is big big bs ... Who should adope that? |
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Side 1) If Segwit then potential HF.
Side 2) If HF then potential Segwit.
Conclusion: Neither happens, and the situation is much worse than having just either one of those have.
Heh, no need to fud the status quo. It aint the end of bitcoin. In fact it's quite bullish: very consensus, much resilience, total well meaning dipshits roundtables and paper agreements irrelevance. That's the byzantine problem all over again, can't trust nobody but bitcoin, and it aint moving an inch. Yeah - Looks all very Wright... |
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Pls add OneCoin here as well ...
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I nominate Lauda to be the official spokes person for core. :p
That is definitely not a position that one would enjoy being in. Thanks for those facts.
I wouldn't call them facts. Welcome to Drama-Land, where instead of trying to push forward, we try to keep stalling. I'm now curious as to how this one is going to play out. Easy to fix. Majority wants the entire package incl HF, so it will be done w/o any real issues. Leads to reunion and peace. Happy days |
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