I think it's related to PACMiC

I also am curious. It looks like it amplifies your mining earnings somehow?

Oh you are totally right, but I'd still say he is undeniably gifted. But in the same way Jim Jones and David Koresh were gifted. I'm just fascinated by people who can lure people in like that and make them so blind to reality.

Back up. Lookin good too.

I must admit, as much as I dislike Garza, I do have to admire his ability to spin and control spin. People who have that kind of "gift of gab" are so different from me that I can't help but find them fascinating. Even if they are assholes.

Either that, or depending on the terms of the sale if they didn't make payment after a set time the domain would revert to the old owner and previous payments would be forfeit. It isn't unheard of.

Imagine the publicity if they lost btc.com. Power going out in a DC? You can spin that. Losing BTC.com due to nonpayment? That's way more public and way harder to spin.

Kind of pisses me off that shaerox was able to buy a bunch of paycoin but missed payment on a bunch of his btcjam loans. What a fucking mook.

So long as it comes back online and my balance isn't 0, I'll be content.

Was this maintenance posted ahead of time? I don't really follow bitmaintalk too much because I can't read Hanzi

And do what exactly? What exactly will Mr. Garza do if he finds them? My screencap and local FBI bureau's website is awaiting your response.


Bitch.

Is it tankjnr?

Please dear god tell me that there is an embarrassing pet name in there. Ganza is getting sooooooo february 2015.

I guess Ganza's church buddies will be relying on the power of prayer to get them out of this one.

I'm pretty sure you ALWAYS have the option to go tell someone to go fuck themselves at the end of the day

The onus on a libel/slander charge is on the person to prove that what you are saying is false. So far as I know, GAW hasn't proven themselves to be legit.

But there's the rub though. What we were sold was sold as mining capacity (specifically, a "cloud miner"). It wasn't until the downfall of zen that it became really clear that it was actually a derivative. Until then there wasn't much difference between what was being sold (a "virtual" miner) and if we purchased a physical miner and pointed it at a particular pool.

GAW running zenpool was illegal, but people thinking they were buying mining capacity in good faith most likely wasn't. IANAL but it seems to fail to provide any mens rea. And being a customer doesn't automatically make you an investor. If I go to walmart and buy a roll of toilet paper, am I now an investor?

The ICO is a different story, but again, GAW stated several times that they were working with regulatory authorities through the process to ensure compliance. So again, customers should be safe.

I still maintain that they most likely want the information to see how many individuals were definitively impacted. That kind of information is important in determining punitive damages against GAW. Also if GAW can't provide all of the information with proof, they are in violation of "know your customer" laws that a lot of MSB's have to maintain.

I think cryptsy is a registered MSB, so they most likely did. I don't think they'll be in trouble since they were operating on a good-faith basis with GAW. This is just a guess though.

lol, at least mine is pretty consistent with my actual name.

My guess is that they're going to be most interested in folks who were actively trying to pump the coin and get folks to buy into the coin.
It wouldn't make sense to go after joe-schmoe zencloud customer unless they're a really huge fish, and even then it would be the IRS who would be interested, not the SEC. SEC is usually just looking for securities fraud or regulatory breaches. I don't know what kind of message passing the two have.

So I'm thinking that their interest is to see how many singular people were impacted by GAW's lies more than it is to track down everyone. I know there were a ton of folks who had multiple accounts, so that would explain the need for a legitimate name behind each.

For some reason this reminds me of when the SEC went after Vonage for their botched IPO, except vonage wasn't a scam. They just had a CEO who didn't understand securities law.

Ah damn, I must have missed that in the walls of text. Looks like they've got my name, though I'm not sure how GAW could have complied. To my knowledge all I ever gave them was a name and credit card info, and some bitcoin. No SSN, no proof of ID, etc. Pretty squarely in violation of "know your customer" laws if that is what their purpose was for.

Oh well, they can pass the info on to the IRS and I can get a tax writeoff.

I wonder if they have to include information about people who were banned from both hashtalk and zencloud, effectively stealing their money? That would be a pretty huge NONO.

Pretty sure by investors they mean partners of the business. That's why in the same request they also require salary/dividend/capital gains info for each person.

AFAIK those of us who bought into GAW didn't get salaries, dividends, or capital gains.

Let your freak flag fly, Vlad.