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701  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 25, 2015, 05:26:10 PM
I have to agree with you stranger with all the shit they pulled GAW miners should pay for it themselves. What? They are going to milk more money out of their investors based on their fuck ups? That's just sad. Considering there are thousands of bitcoins in Josh's wallet, he can't pony up to save a coin he created?

Shit like this always makes me laugh. Isn't the whole point of crypto to cut out all these middlemen?

GAW doesn't need anyone to do anything for them to accept XPY, all they need to do is start accepting it. Why on earth should the believers pay any BTC to give them the ability to use their XPY with GAW?

http://gear.hashbase.com/ accepts XPY.

At 20$/coin, right?  Grin
702  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 25, 2015, 07:26:02 AM
They made a bad choice betraying Bitcoin

lol, some of us were mining bitcoin with GAW at the same time we were mining the hashpoints.

Funny enough, 10GH of sha still sells for ~$3 there, and with the low low maintenance fee of $.02!
703  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 25, 2015, 07:19:07 AM
After learning that some poor lady bought $24000 worth of paycoin at $14 a piece, I thought I'd never say this....I hope we are all wrong just for the investors sake. History and SEC investigations don't help any though. Some people on that forum were mentioning some people actually took out loans to buy this turkey.

And that sell wall(80BTC), I was watching in real time burned through in around 2 min, due to the relative small size I'd say it's an individual. If it were GAW themselves it would be more like 500BTC or 1000BTC to stop the losses. I've never seen that ever period. I guess there may be some money to be made if you wait until it tanks more and then sell slightly up at the inevitable mini-pump before Feb 1st's "announcement" whatever that is. Man...those poor people. We've all been burned at one time or another but wow this is almost criminal.

ABSOLUTELY NOT do I hope we are all wrong for anyone's sake. Anyone that dropped that kind of money into Paycoin @ $14 and held is a complete fucking moron and deserves to lose their money. They had  to have done absolutely no research whatsoever outside of HT if they did any at all. Guess what? Poor ladies don't have $24,000. I feel sorry for no one that got into anything GAW that late in the game. The only ones that did that acted out of pure greed and ignorance. They need to learn a lesson. However, Josh still is at fault for his countless lies and should be forced to forfeit anything and everything he has when paycoin, paysave, paybase, payflash and paywhateverthefuckhemakesupnext finally crumbles to the ground.

Let's be fair here. A lot of folks got into GAW when zencloud was still paying top dollar as far as cloud mining goes. That was my case. I sunk about $2k in and enjoyed about 2 weeks of $20/day payouts. Then over the course of 2 weeks that dropped down to about $6/day. Then $2/day. The option to at least try to get ROI with paycoin made sense. I mean, it's not unheard of in securities for early adopters to get preferential prices (up to and including free). Up until then what we knew was that, while GAW had had some troubles in the past, they were taking and fulfilling orders for real hardware, they had datacenters, they had a physical location in the US and were inviting people to visit, and they had a confirmation from bitmain that they had massive hashpower on order. There was a lot of evidence in their favor - especially if you're someone on HT who is fully immersed in the echo chamber.

The folks who are out 24k are still out 24k. That's enough punishment. They don't need folks calling them fucking morons and making it worse. They know full well that they made a bad choice.
704  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: January 25, 2015, 07:06:20 AM
So I have a hashnest account but haven't done much with it yet. How are the returns? Decent?

I'm really liking the idea that I can use it as a way to slowly build up equity to buy mining gear.
705  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 25, 2015, 06:59:43 AM
After learning that some poor lady bought $24000 worth of paycoin at $14 a piece, I thought I'd never say this....I hope we are all wrong just for the investors sake. History and SEC investigations don't help any though. Some people on that forum were mentioning some people actually took out loans to buy this turkey.

And that sell wall(80BTC), I was watching in real time burned through in around 2 min, due to the relative small size I'd say it's an individual. If it were GAW themselves it would be more like 500BTC or 1000BTC to stop the losses. I've never seen that ever period. I guess there may be some money to be made if you wait until it tanks more and then sell slightly up at the inevitable mini-pump before Feb 1st's "announcement" whatever that is. Man...those poor people. We've all been burned at one time or another but wow.

Yup, it sucks. But it's a good thing to keep in mind whenever you make an investment. It can always go south, hedge your bets. Think about the max you can lose comfortably, and use half of that. Don't ever borrow cash unless you know for a fact you can pay it back without a problem.

I mentioned that once on hashtalk and that fuckface rootdude ripped into me because I was "acting high and mighty" because I suggested people be careful. I got tempbanned because I offered good investing advice. He starts verbally assaulting people and gets made into a mod.

Here's hoping his GAW pumping earns him a nice place in hell next to Homero.
706  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 25, 2015, 06:02:37 AM
If the SEC does get involved, they should force GAW and it's people to sell off their shit to at least give as many bag holders as possible at least a few of their coins at $20 to ease the pain somewhat. I'm sure Josh can live with driving a Hyundai instead of a Ferarri for a year or two. I feel really bad for the bag holders.

I was a bag holder. I was lucky enough to log on fairly soon after the ICO and managed to sell about half my coins at 14$, so I made a decent enough profit. However I sold the other half this morning at about 2.30. Sucks, but that's the gamble you make.

Sadly, what should have been profit on the first part just paid off a btcjam loan that was paying for shares on ltcgear, which went belly up about the same time.

I rolled the dice and lost. It happens.

The folks I feel really bad for are the ones who took out loans and convinced family to get involved with GAW.
707  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 24, 2015, 06:53:25 AM
Welp, just got the last of my XPY sold off. Less than 2 damn dollars a coin. Should have sold at 14$ when I had the chance.

C'est la vie.

Now I'm just waiting for my genesis hashlets to sell and then I can wash my hands of GAW for good.
708  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 24, 2015, 02:36:29 AM
Interesting, Commander-in-Thief has stated that Paybase is an entirely separate company from GAW:



Like I said before - this could be the catch in Garza's statement that a 3rd party would handle escrow.

Paybase issues the buyback, GAW holds the coins. There's your third party.
709  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 10:52:46 PM
1024kb - your first part proved you owned the allcryptocoins.ca domain. Therefore it seems likely that you are allcryptocoins.

Get it now?

I am not him, but he is a friend of mine. Did some research as well.

Looks like they simply didn't re register their domain name, then someone else did, hence access to all emails, and then access to twitter via pw reset. So no hack at all really.

The power of research is amazing eh



The domain wasn't even close to expiring. I'll have a third party well known member of our community verify this is actually me soon.

The domain was NOT expired and our password was NOT compromised at the registrar level.

Not only that, you can let a domain expire and they give you a grace period. Been there. Done that many times.

For some reason I had you ignored.
Either way, you're right. On top of that when the domain is expiring they send you almost daily notices. Even the crappy registrars. It's very hard to "let a domain expire" without being aware of it expiring.
710  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
1024kb - your first part proved you owned the allcryptocoins.ca domain. Therefore it seems likely that you are allcryptocoins.

Get it now?

I am not him, but he is a friend of mine. Did some research as well.

Looks like they simply didn't re register their domain name, then someone else did, hence access to all emails, and then access to twitter via pw reset. So no hack at all really.

The power of research is amazing eh



The domain wasn't even close to expiring. I'll have a third party well known member of our community verify this is actually me soon.

The domain was NOT expired and our password was NOT compromised at the registrar level.


http://whois.domaintools.com/coinfire.cf


whats the reg date there?
HINT: its today

Trust me, our registration was good until half way through this year. Someone did something way more sinister than that.

no offence, im just trying to help, to change a reg date is kinda odd, as it has to be unregistered or re registered within the expiry date to change the date.

Who do you think did this??

Don't want to point any fingers at the moment. All signs point to a reseller of our registrar right now.

We have no idea though right now and are just working diligently to have all of our access logs archived at the moment.


Ahhh, so not allcryptocoins as some have suggested here

Looks like he might just be a douchebag who laughs at people getting hacked, instead of a douchebag criminal.

Either way, he's still a douchebag.
711  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 10:12:17 PM
1024kb - your first part proved you owned the allcryptocoins.ca domain. Therefore it seems likely that you are allcryptocoins.

Get it now?

I am not him, but he is a friend of mine. Did some research as well.

Looks like they simply didn't re register their domain name, then someone else did, hence access to all emails, and then access to twitter via pw reset. So no hack at all really.

The power of research is amazing eh



The domain wasn't even close to expiring. I'll have a third party well known member of our community verify this is actually me soon.

The domain was NOT expired and our password was NOT compromised at the registrar level.


http://whois.domaintools.com/coinfire.cf


whats the reg date there?
HINT: its today

Trust me, our registration was good until half way through this year. Someone did something way more sinister than that.

Did you just get your twitter account back?


On the upside I think there is a ton of info to prove to the registrar that you were hacked.
712  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:49:36 PM
Msaaro: That second link you are referring to is gone. Suggest saving the page if you still have it up bro.

713  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:42:25 PM

i must be miss reading, i see no threat here " they will get theirs" is not a threat

Look at the last post on the second link. Whoever that user is, Bl4nk, is the one who currently controls their twitter account. Hence the screenshot of the account deactivation page.
714  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:34:34 PM
This guy is all but admitting it was him, and is basically bragging about it.  Roll Eyes

https://hashtalk.org/user/allcryptocoins

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30067/can-anyone-else-access-the-bulls-t-central-coinfire-cf/6

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30083/coinfire-domain-stolen/53

Someone should archive his post history before he censors it.

anyone happen to archive any of that?

Only one I found is this:
715  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
Fark it. Selling my XPY now. I want nothing to do with GAW or their coin.

I don't care that it's for a loss.

Fark this.
716  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 06:38:51 PM
Domain name:
      COINFIRE.CF is Active

Domain Nameservers:
      NS1.PARKINGCREW.NET
      NS2.PARKINGCREW.NET

   Domain registered: 01/23/2015
   Record will expire on: 01/23/2016
   Record maintained by: Dot CF Domain Registry



https://archive.today/prkyI

Quote

allcryptocoins posted about an hour ago   ,

oh they went down due to DDOS....oh.....such a shame.....pissed off the wrong bunch of people I guess. tear. As I said a few days ago "they will get there's..no worry about that...at all".

Perhaps someone got into their registrar and changed some things....hmmm...tooo bad...guess we will never know

Also they are setting up cloudflare to try to avoid this, ha. This is why it appears down at the moment.




Crap. I wonder if they just forgot to renew their domain?
717  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 05:53:34 PM
Uh looks like CoinFire has been hacked or something.  It's redirecting to an ads website.

confirmed privacy error



That means that the URL coinfire.cf takes you to has a different common name on its SSL certificate. It could be something as simple as the website being set to redirect you to www.coinfire.cf and the certificate has coinfire.cf on it.


That said, when I go there I'm being taken to a DNS hijack page.
718  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 05:38:02 PM
He also says that they are insured a couple of posts after.

By a similar "third party" I'm sure.

Although unlike escrow, self-insurance is actually a thing. Perhaps not for financial products though.

There are some slimy ways to handle it depending on corporate structure as well. If GAW is registered separately from GAW Miners, then technically he could say it's held in escrow by GAW for GAW Miners and not be lying or (I think) breaking the law.
719  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 05:28:54 PM
I have a question.  When coinfire released the SEC investigation article HT was basically calling for Josh to sue them on the basis of making false claims and posting forged documents of GAW doing illegal trading and so on.  Now for Josh to sue coinfire wouldn't he have to prove for his lawsuit against coinfire that he not doing anything illegal to say that coinfire was making false claims and it has hurt his business.  In theory if Josh does not sue coinfire he is probably doing something illegal and a lawsuit would prove that or am I just pulling this out my ass and it means nothing.  I know almost nothing about the law.

Yup. Part of a libel/slander lawsuit is proving that the person you are suing is lying. If they are telling the truth, you have no case.

My old prof in college used to put it this way: "Truth is the ultimate defense for a slander case."
720  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: January 23, 2015, 04:56:47 PM
So, does anyone think that there will be a price spike in xpy immediately before the start of february?

I'm still trying to decide if I should liquidate now or wait for the muppets to go in on a buying spree (ermehgrd, 20$ a coin!!!)



Be careful, as we get closer to feb more people will realize that the "buyback" doesn't actually start till march, and that they will not get their actual 20 for a while.

Yeah, I have no aspirations of ever getting $20 back. However I'd like to get back more than 1-2 dollars a coin. I've written off what I have in XPY already, but if I can find a more advantageous exit point I'd like to do that, know what I mean?

If other folks think there is a chance, there could be a small buying spree and that could drive the price up a little bit, giving me a better exit point.

This is now speculation money to play with. Like I said, I've written it off.
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