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1201  Economy / Auctions / Re: [auction] 210 BTC of debt on: July 12, 2013, 10:57:00 PM
Great price. I contacted a few businesses about this. Only two got back to me. 1 said they could not do it because the debt was made a very long time ago and don't like virtual currencies.
The other one said they would need to look into it further and maybe contact previous owners of the loan. But, being Bitcoin it would be hard because previous owners of the debt may not want to disclose any of their personal information. But, they said other than that they could do it.


If it was in a fiat currency a legal contract may actually stand in court. If the contract states Bitcoin, nobody will take it seriously at all. The best hope here is to show up to his house personally and harass him until he pays 1% of it.

I don't have too big hopes of being able to collect but for this price it's definitely worth a shot. I have a friend in the UK who has some contacts in the debt collection business so I'll see what I can scratch. I'll keep you posted.
1202  Economy / Auctions / Re: [auction] 210 BTC of debt on: July 12, 2013, 05:55:49 PM
$30


SOLD.

bitcoin: 0.3544 1LA82JkVJKUNhkPvjH9LtKf9yHANhn5JBz
litecoin: 11.72 LgEtugqwMoygnrCqCqRJQaScuCRZhkVUdU

PM for paypal/dwolla address.

Thanks All!

Thanks,

paid via LTC
1203  Economy / Auctions / Re: [auction] 210 BTC of debt on: July 11, 2013, 11:10:26 AM
$30
1204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone is spamming the blockchain on: July 10, 2013, 01:17:08 PM
It's not spamming they are passing messages through timestamps

Why don't they just use BitMessage?
1205  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Domain] Litecoin.se on: July 09, 2013, 08:03:39 AM
9 LTC
1206  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Domain] Litecoin.se on: July 08, 2013, 04:35:28 PM
7 LTC
1207  Economy / Goods / Re: Who would be interested in iPad2? on: July 08, 2013, 11:52:36 AM
Where are you located?
1208  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 03, 2013, 05:14:29 PM
Most stupid thread title ever.
the survey is not about the definition of morale, it's about the definition of stealing.
if it was about the definition of morale it would have to be the other way around.

1.If you build a road alone, would it be okay to charge people to use it?
2. If you and a group of people build a road, would it be okay to charge others to use them?
3. If you are elected to build a road and secure it with security forces, would it be okay to charge the people who elected you to do so with it's maintenance cost?
4. If you are the representative of a group of elected people in charge of: roadbuiding, infrastructure building, securing your town and the roads, and protecting you from non elected people charging you for services rendered by yourself, would it be okay to charge the people who voted for them for maintenance cost and a fee for future projects?

repeat as you like.
And even that is not your personal definition of morale; morale is what you personally feel is right, and won't burden your conscience.


Cool story bro.

And those who do not want to use the road?
and what about that sewer?

Septic tank.

I took road tax as it is one of the oldest form of taxes of mankind. You could not go anywhere without them. Have you ever tried to walk 20km without a road of any kind? bear in mind that you couldn't even walk through a forest a few hundred years ago because of undergrowth and the only way to get through was a lumber road...
but hey, maybe you are from america, and don't know the history of the old world...


There could be a per-usage toll for people who didn't pay for their construction with their taxes. What really pisses me off is that in many countries in Europe there are toll roads which were built and operated by subsidized companies (generally belonging to someone with good connections in the govt), so we are effectively paying twice. And if that wasn't enough, some countries like Spain are already bailing out these same companies after people just don't have any money more to be ripped off and prefer to drive a bit longer to get to their destination.
1209  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 02, 2013, 10:47:33 AM
Unless a country closes its borders and tries to prevent people from leaving, taxes pretty much are voluntary, strictly speaking. Even if some people want to "opt out of the system", most people have their whole lives (and their children's lives) set up in such a way that they can't leave without massive upheaval (quit job, sell house/break lease, sell 50k different things, stop 20 different service contracts, notify bank+school+post office, scout out a new place to live and sign more contracts, find a new job...)

Why can't people simply be allowed to voluntarily stop paying taxes, and then not be given any of the things taxes pay for, like police and fire protection, military protection, access to schools or public highways, etc? If some yokle lives on a compound out in the middle of nowhere, surely it can't be that hard for the government to do.

I think what you would have in that case is a free riding problem. Many people would prefer not to pay taxes and then trying to use some of the services (fire protection, emergency medication etc.) if there it's really necessary for them. So far, the best mechanism I could think of is the 'opt out of the system' by leaving your country if you do not agree with the current system anymore and there is no majority to change it from inside.

Free riding already exists in today's society. You name it: unemployed, black-market workers, disabled people, professional tax-dodgers... The difference is that you could step out without needing to be disabled/lazy or lie. And there's always a way of dealing with freeloaders; your approach is like saying "why should I open a grocery store if there will be people shoplifting?"
1210  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 02, 2013, 07:32:38 AM
I do agree that the way taxation is currently implemented can be considered an outright theft.

But taxes as such could be set in a way that they are not imposed, but rather agreed upon by a (local) community, without central government intervention. For example, all (the majority of) inhabitants of a town could agree that amount X of money is needed to fix the roads, pay the police and firemen, and other expenses which are of common interest. Those who don't agree could simply claim a piece of land somewhere outside of that town and grow/sell their own food, take care of their personal safety, etc without using the town's services. Schools would be paid only by people who actually have children (functioning as cooperatives), and there would be absolutely no need for a bureaucratic monster of pea-counters, regulators, paper movers, etc.
Unless a country closes its borders and tries to prevent people from leaving, taxes pretty much are voluntary, strictly speaking. Even if some people want to "opt out of the system", most people have their whole lives (and their children's lives) set up in such a way that they can't leave without massive upheaval (quit job, sell house/break lease, sell 50k different things, stop 20 different service contracts, notify bank+school+post office, scout out a new place to live and sign more contracts, find a new job...)

The voluntarists seem to have a (semi) legitimate point in that even if they're willing to uproot, they still can't escape because all the other countries (that are on the table) also have expensive regimes. However, as the forum's resident Anarchist 'Ktttn' shows, living tax-free does seem possible -- people are just unwilling to reduce their ecological footprint by about 1000 times. They want the same lifestyle but without tax.

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Some people would prefer to pay what is necessary to keep the common services running in order to benefit from the comfort of living in the town, and others would choose to live an autarchic life in the wild without paying a penny to anyone.
And some would refuse to pay, refuse to move, and they would complain that they're being oppressed and tyrannised by the evil majority when tax collectors knock at the door.

My point is it shouldn't be established at a country level, but only locally. Every state should allow its citizens to live outside of urban areas and take care of their own needs without being taxed or needing to move to another country. Why should a bureaucrat in Washington decide anything about a town in Idaho, for example? Unfortunately, AFAIK this model just doesn't exist.

And to your second point, dealing with people who want to live in the system and don't want to contribute is as simple as kicking them out until they either pay up or establish themselves outside of the system.
1211  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 01, 2013, 04:17:55 PM
I do agree that the way taxation is currently implemented can be considered an outright theft.

But taxes as such could be set in a way that they are not imposed, but rather agreed upon by a (local) community, without central government intervention. For example, all (the majority of) inhabitants of a town could agree that amount X of money is needed to fix the roads, pay the police and firemen, and other expenses which are of common interest. Those who don't agree could simply claim a piece of land somewhere outside of that town and grow/sell their own food, take care of their personal safety, etc without using the town's services. Schools would be paid only by people who actually have children (functioning as cooperatives), and there would be absolutely no need for a bureaucratic monster of pea-counters, regulators, paper movers, etc.

Some people would prefer to pay what is necessary to keep the common services running in order to benefit from the comfort of living in the town, and others would choose to live an autarchic life in the wild without paying a penny to anyone.

Ok, maybe in this utopian fantasyland these contributions couldn't be called taxes any more, but I think the point is clear. It is a robbery when taxes are used to feed the fat bellys of millions of bureaucrats and corrupt politicians, to subsidize otherwise non-competitive companies, etc and all this without any transparent accounting. Unfortunately this is the case pretty much everywhere in the world, and the ruling classes will never want to let go of their privileges and will keep on feeding us that the established system is necessary for maintaining peace and order.
1212  Economy / Services / Looking for developer: betting exchange site on: June 24, 2013, 12:38:35 PM
I'm looking for someone to develop a (simplified)Betfair-like sports betting exchange site, functioning exclusively with BTC.

Key features:
- automatic generation of new wallets for deposits
- automatic withdrawals
- live update of back/lay odds
- easy to use management system (especially to add/remove markets and adjust fees)
- simple user registration/login with SSL
- offline storage of BTC wallet
- in the first stage, markets will not be managed in-play. Connection to live feeds for in-play market management will be considered at a later stage.
- design shall initially be simple and functional

I'm willing to negotiate a fixed price + % participation in revenues

Please send me offers together with relevant experience (such as previously coded sites)
1213  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 1.15 BTC = 5GH/s KnCMiner Jupiter. No fees. 3 Systems SOLD on: June 22, 2013, 03:03:27 PM
I'd like 10 shares, please keep me posted when you have news (when escrow is set up)
1214  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [Auction] Terrahash DX-Large 180 GH w/ PSU - First Batch on: June 20, 2013, 01:14:15 PM
I would be in for a group buy... please PM if you know how we could organize it
1215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Free Startup Engineering course (backed by Coinbase among others) on: June 19, 2013, 02:32:57 PM
I just wanted to let you know about this free course offered by the University of Stanford on Coursera about creation of startups which started this week (enrolment still open).

https://class.coursera.org/startup-001/class/index

It is relevant to Bitcoin because it is backed by Coinbase among others and the final project consists of creating a crowdfunding site based on Bitcoin with a business idea of the student's choice. There are some speeches by entrepreneurs from Facebook, Airbnb, Google, Uber and other Silicon Valley tech companies.
1216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: May 24, 2013, 05:12:26 PM
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1217  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO][LTC-GLOBAL] Crypto-trade.com : IPO started! on: May 24, 2013, 11:31:56 AM
spoke to neotrix via chat and said it'll be online tomorrow. cross your fingers. this time may be for real!

Maņana, maņana...

I sold all my shares for a small loss, I'm happy to be out of this now
1218  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Paying Volunteers to Test CoinGator.com Back-end! on: May 23, 2013, 02:33:46 PM
Ok I did two transactions for 0.01 BTC. The first one went through very fast and I got my payment in a few minutes. The second eventually expired since I sent the funds from Bitstamp and they delayed the payment a bit, but then I contacted MicroGuy and he solved the issue and sent me the payment himself.

In brief: great service, only the 10 minute expiry is a bit too low IMO (if more people like me send BTCs directly from an exchanger this will be happening quite often).
1219  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How long until I can post outside the newbie area? on: May 23, 2013, 02:13:04 PM
Been online for more than 4 hours now and still cannot post. How many posts in the newbie area do I need exactly?

Ok it seems like it's five... let's try again  Wink

Nope... still not working  Huh
1220  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How long until I can post outside the newbie area? on: May 23, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
Been online for more than 4 hours now and still cannot post. How many posts in the newbie area do I need exactly?

Ok it seems like it's five... let's try again  Wink
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