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341  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: ICO certification service needed on: November 19, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
First of all we did not "let it happen" because AmaZix didn't exist yet when Bancor launched their token sale.

Yet you flaunt that project on your website. Quite amateurish TBH.


We are partners of Bancor. Some of our founding members were moderating their Telegram groups and eventually decided to set up a company and continue cooperation with Bancor.

Second, I happen to be in Tel Aviv meeting with the Bancor team in their offices and they don't have "zero people" but a team of 20+ persons working hard to come forward.


I said zero people with actual relevant knowledge. Random developers from random areas are absolutely not people with relevant knowledge. Also: "hard working people != experts".

I don't agree with that. They have a working product and several projects using it. What additional "relevant knowledge" is needed?


You can criticize the project in any way you want but calling it a scam when they have a working product that is constantly being developed is unfair and not at all objective.


Objectively, it's a money grabbing scam. It should not exist, yet it does.


Again I disagree. The concept of Bancor is backed by a good purpose and many use cases. The importance of liquidity (or the lack of it) is not to be underestimated. Of course this might be debatable but there is a good percentage of people who would agree with me so I don't think "it should not exist".


Finally, a certification service will never assure investors that the project is going to be successful and make them any profits, in any field the majority of startups end up going broke despite being legit and having a solid plan.
Nobody claimed that.

Not explicitly but I have the impression that most scam accusations are based on the current price of the token. Had it appreciated in value I bet most of these discussions wouldn't exist at all.
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: November 19, 2017, 12:16:19 PM
why use hyundai name in this thread title, but there is no link between them? can it be simplified for that matter for better information

They dont have any connection with Hyunday Motors. Its only marketing tools for ICO and another Hyunday.

This will be tokens or coins? Why you wrote, that have Blockchain, but giving tokens?

It's not Hyundai Motors, but part of the Hyundai Group, more concretely Hyundai BS&C.

The founder Dae-Sun Chung is a grandson of Ju-yung Chung, the founder of Hyundai Group.

343  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: ICO certification service needed on: November 19, 2017, 11:33:49 AM
I believe the assessments our company makes as a requirement for prospective customers fit quite well in the definition of what you're looking for.
Is this some kind of bad joke?
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Our partnership with Bancor means we work exclusively on projects utilising Bancor smart tokens - and our expertise with the Bancor platform positions us perfectly to guide those projects through the crowdfund process.
You let that scam happen.
I wonder how they get the services of such a service is very dubious people and teams. I have seen a lot of ico on the forum today, which do not correspond to the declared document.
Scammers have very low to non existing criteria. Bancor is a prime example of obvious money grab with a flawed idea and zero people with any actual (relevant) knowledge. I was thinking about establishing a certification service, but I am almost certain that pretty much no one[1] grasps how complex a proper certification service for this would be. A "pass vs. fail" certification is definitely out of the rule. It would be too simple, imprecise and likely be inconsistent. What it requires is a grading scale, where the resulting grade is a combination of grades from several areas (similar to language certification) in addition to a level above which a service could be "certified". Theymos could then decide whether a project with a lower passing grade should be allowed to advertise or not.

[1] I've seen at least 1 person in this thread that took this thing seriously.

Hello Lauda,

First of all we did not "let it happen" because AmaZix didn't exist yet when Bancor launched their token sale.

Second, I happen to be in Tel Aviv meeting with the Bancor team in their offices and they don't have "zero people" but a team of 20+ persons working hard to come forward.

You can criticize the project in any way you want but calling it a scam when they have a working product that is constantly being developed is unfair and not at all objective.

Finally, a certification service will never assure investors that the project is going to be successful and make them any profits, in any field the majority of startups end up going broke despite being legit and having a solid plan.
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]Flixxo - Community-based video distribution - Sale 24 Oct on: November 17, 2017, 09:37:06 PM
Greetings..
I've ranked up, my rank is now a "Member".
Please update my ranking for the sig campaign when you have the time, thanks.

Please update the signature first and send me a PM then  Smiley
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]Flixxo - Community-based video distribution - Sale 24 Oct on: November 17, 2017, 09:36:29 PM
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346  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: ICO certification service needed on: November 17, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
I believe the assessments our company makes as a requirement for prospective customers fit quite well in the definition of what you're looking for.

I have sent you a PM with more information  Smiley

347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: November 16, 2017, 09:29:29 AM
Why bounty pay in btc?

It doesn't.

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Hdac is starting its Official Bounty Program in order to reward its supporters with Hdac tokens.
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]HydroMiner - Green Mining with Hydro Energy. 18 OCT. UP TO $800K on: November 15, 2017, 10:16:22 AM
THE TOKEN SALE HAS ENDED

Thank you everyone for a successful token sale and bounty campaign!!!


We will do our best to calculate all stakes in a timely manner, please do not do any more shares or tweets and submit all pending reports ASAP

Signatures should be kept until we finish calculating the stakes, they will be given the highest priority.
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 600k$ FIX POOL 90BTC on: November 15, 2017, 08:49:47 AM
UPDATED SIGNATURE RULES (AND UPDATED SIGNATURE CODES)



Distribution of stakes according to user level:

Jr. Member:    1 stake / week
Member:      2 stakes / week
Full Member:   3 stakes / week
Sr Member:      5 stakes / week
Hero/Legendary:   7 stakes / week

Application:
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Personal text: “Best IoT Platform Based on Blockchain”

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Rules:
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Personal text: “Best IoT Platform Based on Blockchain”
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: November 14, 2017, 05:11:41 PM
And the bounty thread is now live  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2402637.0
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: November 14, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
is this the main thread of Hdac? or bounty thread of  Hdac? I did not find any website information  Smiley

Hello tazmantasik,

This is the main thread, the bounty thread is being finished and you can find the official website here.
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: November 14, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
Hi BM..
but in this project is involved with the hyundai car manufacturer?
i'm checking here
https://www.hdac-coin.com/
but Hyunday is not mentioned

This is the site: www.hdac.io
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: November 14, 2017, 03:36:49 PM
reserved
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: November 14, 2017, 03:35:58 PM
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]BABB - Bank Account Based Blockchain - UP TO $1M IN BOUNTIES on: November 13, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
NEW STEEMIT BOUNTY ADDED AS AN ADDITIONAL BOUNTY !

Check the OP for more details
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TOKEN] eFL (FAN) - Fan Controlled Pro Sports League on: November 13, 2017, 12:59:58 PM
This looked sooo nice. Any ICO details?

Thank you RitzBitzz,

The token sale details will be published soon, please sign up to the mailing list on the website to be notified as soon as they are available.
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Datawallet - Make Your Data Work For You - UP TO $300K on: November 13, 2017, 12:33:42 PM
Hey everyone, you can find the official telegram bounty channel for Datawallet here: https://t.me/datawalletbounty
Makes communication a bit easier Smiley

And of course the main Telegram group: https://t.me/datawallet

 Smiley
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Datawallet - Make Your Data Work For You on: November 13, 2017, 12:31:57 PM
a great project hopefully his project runs successfully,
with the start of a hero member manager, hopefully be the best.
trying to join bounty.

Thank you! let us know if we can help you in any way Smiley
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][TOKEN] eFL (FAN) - Fan Controlled Pro Sports League on: November 13, 2017, 09:53:58 AM
reserved
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / [ANN][TOKEN] FCFL (FAN) - Fan Controlled Pro Sports League on: November 13, 2017, 09:53:38 AM



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A New Paradigm for Sports Management

While the management of professional sports teams has traditionally been an insular process, the proliferation of mobile access allows for a hivemind approach to building a team. Any person with a camera and free time can offer first-hand scouting; any person with an internet connection can watch film of an upcoming opponent and offer their insight for game day preparation. FAN Token serves as the measurement of how much you know, a tangible differentiator that removes ambiguity at scale, and fan decision-making power is weighted according to their proven track record. The FCFL leverages the power and intelligence of a large network of contributors rather than rely on the limited time and resources of a select few.


Content Fit for the 21st Century

Traditional pro sports leagues continue to showcase their on-field games through a single, highly-curated broadcast, but the FCFL will be on the cutting image of video production, offering myriad angles (including experimental technology like drone and helmet cams), all at the fans’ fingertips through the app and our partner networks. We are currently finalizing a distribution partnership with a major digital media company to help bring control of our teams to the widest possible array of fans, and our decision-making functionality will be baked directly into the experience.

PROOF OF CONCEPT



We spent the past two years fine-tuning our platform and operations. Last year, we brought it to the public with the Salt Lake Screaming Eagles in the Indoor Football League (and yes, that name was voted on by the fans). The Screaming Eagles made their debut in February of 2017 as the first ever fan-controlled professional sports team on the planet, and the pilot yielded not only 100,000+ fans from over 100 countries actively streaming our games and calling plays through our app, but also a successful football team. With fans at the helm calling all the offensive plays, the Screaming Eagles had the third-ranked offense in the league, and quarterback Verlon Reed was named rookie of the year. Through partnerships with Sports Illustrated and Amazon’s online eSports video platform Twitch, we amassed millions of views, most of which came from first-time viewers of the IFL.





MEDIA TRACTION

Our preliminary work has garnered significant attention from leading media publications as the first true effort to give fans a hand in the action and merge the worlds of video gaming and real-world athletics.










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