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2161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 21, 2015, 06:04:36 PM
this is a big deal. gvt backing:

Bitcoin Exchange in Chile Gets Funding from Government

http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/04/21/bitcoin-exchange-in-chile-gets-funding-from-government/
2162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 21, 2015, 05:06:22 PM

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According to New Jersey public records he earns an annual salary of $85,924.

Jesus, I have to say US government workers seem to earn quite a salary.

That is nothing especially for the NYC/NJ area.

1) He looks fairly youngish which means he is at the bottom of the union pay scale. You can be sure that by the time he is 50 his salary will be well above $150K
2) That is the base only. For overtime he gets time and a half (or sometimes double). This can easily double a cop's pay. Have you ever seen them watching road construction at night or at a sporting event, they're getting bonus time for that.
3) The benefits are amazing.
4) They can retire at age 50 and receive not just their salary, but the average of their last 3 years salary+bonus, FOR LIFE. This often translates to $+200K/yr for life.
5) After "retiring" at 50 they can go back and work as "consultants" for the police and earn another 2nd salary, taking their total pay well above $250K

If you look at the pool of people ages 50-65 pulling in well over $250K, a very good chunk of them are not doctors or lawyers, but cops and other senior civil "servants".

What is even worse, is even though it is this bad, no politician will go after the cop's unions, because to do so would bring the full might of the police down on you.

The perfect example of this is Scott Walker who went after every single public sector union in WI, but didn't go anywhere near the cops. No one, not even the president, can go after these criminals.

Edit: For the first 100 years of US history, there were no standing police forces and the country seemed to do just fine. It was only in the late 1800s and early 1900s that the large east coast cities started to create standing police forces. It was a large debate at the time with many on the side of liberty arguing that standing police forces with the law behind them will inevitably become corrupt to the bone. They were proven right.

like i said, you're doing a good job.  i was about to say...
2163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 21, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
New poll
2164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 21, 2015, 12:27:21 PM

They seem to be everywhere these days.
2165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 20, 2015, 03:53:00 PM
Greece is escalating once again:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-20/did-greece-just-launch-capital-controls-mandatory-cash-transfer-decreed
2166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 20, 2015, 04:36:38 AM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?

That was my first thought, this could go horribly wrong with the likes of the NSA and other tentacles trying to embed into network hardware.

fortunately coin security has already being solved with multisig. Still privacy could be compromised but your coins can be safe.

Exciting solution have already been proposed. http://sigsafe.org/  is one solution to allow you to use the tech while diversifying the trust.  It just needs adoption.

i see that Peter has been busy.  interesting concept sigsafe.  i'd be interested in hearing why he chose NFC.  certainly worth following.
2167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 20, 2015, 03:18:15 AM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?

maybe b/c they're joint investors in 21?  i sure hope they do their audits.
2168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 20, 2015, 03:02:09 AM
Peter's is a good theory.  in fact, i take it one step further.  i think it was probably gvt agents who took it down from 17.5 to 0.002 at the time.

what a crazy way to accumulate coins, if it was indeed just a hacker.  if he had really stole source code, he would have just bled 100 coin lots over the next 3 yrs as was apparently done according to WizSec.  no drama.  i remember quite vividly watching the attack take place real time on what was then used, Sierra Charts.  it was a straight down spiral of the price with no intervening buys, just selling.  it reminded me of watching the Bear Stearns chart plummet in real time back in 2008.  it's indescribable seeing such a thing happen right before your very eyes.  it was so public and so obvious that the guy Kevin got identified immediately for having bought 259684 BTC for under $3000:

06/19/11 17:51  Bought BTC  259684.77 for 0.0101

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20207.0

no, my bet is on gvt agents who were trying to destroy Bitcoin.  this board was covered with obvious trolls even back then and mtgox had just captured the public's attention for the first time with the run to 32.  since then, we have found out an astounding number of facts about NSA's unabashed unconstitutional actions to invade privacy and perform sabotage such as Stuxnet, Gemalto, Prism, Merkel's cellphone, etc, etc.  The SR agents were methodical, ruthless, and matter of fact about stealing SR coins acting with impunity.  doesn't seem to far a stretch that gvt agents would steal from mtgox while taking it down at the same time.  it would explain the radio silence on the whole issue as well as an attempt to bury the truth forever.

You make the case about as well as it can be done at this point. Although, there was also extreme profit motive vs Mark K, on the other side of the razor.

no, the USG was way up his ass in many ways.  not to mention the $5.1 M they seized from Tibanne here in the US.  i'm sure he was under a gag order.  so was the Japanese police ever since the 17.5 to 0.0101 hack as he reported it to them.

i'm sure during the subsequent investigations his systems got compromised.  and if i'm right, that they had access to the systems, i wouldn't put it past the gvts to steal coins that could be responsible for the depressed prices we see today in the never ending inexplicable selloffs we've been getting.  that's my tinfoil.
2169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 20, 2015, 12:35:11 AM
Bitcoin trolls.  you really need to look the hell out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/336f1w/its_not_about_21_inc_its_all_about_qualcomm/
2170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 20, 2015, 12:19:26 AM
wow, more smartphone innovation on the horizon.  mobile is the bomb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTObCr4gnM&feature=youtu.be
2171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 20, 2015, 12:10:06 AM
wow, Ledger Wallet guys seem on top of things.  hardware wallet capabilities already built into your phone?:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114003/bitcoin-could-be-stored-securely-as-a-hardware-wallet-on-your-phone
2172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 19, 2015, 10:19:53 PM
[...]
NSA talking about "electronic anonymous cryptographic cash" prototype in 1996:
[...]

For 30 years. It does not change a thing. We have the distributed blockchain with proof of work and block reward in the form of the currency itself. It looks easy now, but were not. It is an invention. They could not know.


Doesn't matter if Satoshi or the NSA wrote it. It's open source and had been inspected up the wazoo. It does what we think it does. And if it doesn't, we'll change it.
2173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 19, 2015, 06:50:54 PM
Guys, governments are structurally inefficient. Do you really think a bunch of bureaucrats could understand the potential of bitcoin back in 2011?

If governments were so smart and visionary, administered economy would work.

Yes I do, especially when it comes to threats in monetary matters. They've demonstrated this understanding many times in the past ; Von Nothaus for one.

Did you ever think that the NSA had the capabilities they have been shown to possess from the Snowden documents? And most experts agree that those documents released in 2013 are at least 2 years old. Cracking into mtgox would have been trivial for them.
2174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 19, 2015, 06:44:36 PM
Balaji Srinivasan seeing clearly. Any naysayers better think twice:

"One way to understand mining is that in return for doing transactions you get to add a direct deposit to yourself," Srinivasan said. "For a blockchain to exist, that token introduction needs to be there at least under the paradigm that we had."

Should such a system be capable of existing, he said, it hasn't been discovered.

"We think it's going to be bitcoin or nothing at the present time," he added.

"If we assume there are 10 million Google servers and each of these servers is running. You can multiply that through and you get about one petahash. If they turned off all their data centers and pointed them at bitcoin, they'd be less than 1% of the network," he continued."

"Are there legal issues? I think that was a reasonable concern in 2013, [but] I don't think that's a reasonable thing today," Srinivasan said.

http://www.coindesk.com/21-ceo-balaji-srinivasan-bitcoin-job-fair/
2175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 19, 2015, 06:33:04 PM


Grexit seems almost inevitable these days.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/16/greece-moves-step-closer-to-grexit-after-imf-snub

After that all eyes will be on Spain and Podemos.

From a bitcoin perspective it seems self serving to cheer for currency crisis, but to my mind it appears to be the lesser of two evils. The Third option that nobody is talking about is a federal European union. I just can't see any member state willing to give up autonomy for "the good? of the union'  Huh

Good article demonstrating the ongoing fiat monetary problems that will never go away while continuing to fester beneath the surface. My favorite quotes:

" The IMF is a rules-based institution, Lagarde said. While all options were available, she added: “It’s clearly not a course of action that could be recommended in the current situation.”

Until they're not.

" Athens is waiting for the final €7.2bn payment under the second rescue package, but it has been held up after the new radical leftwing-led government scrapped previous commitments to privatise state assets and cut welfare."

Amazing display of parasitic behavior. Otoh, can I haz Santorini pleez?
2176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 19, 2015, 03:34:07 PM
Some variation of Peter R's theory still lookin' good:

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Most or all of the missing bitcoins were stolen straight out of the MtGox hot wallet over time, beginning in late 2011. As a result, MtGox operated at fractional reserve for years (knowingly or not), and was practically depleted of bitcoins by 2013.
...

http://blog.wizsec.jp/2015/04/the-missing-mtgox-bitcoins.html?m=1


Also, increasingly seems like the below might be right:

...

I'm very curious if the Gox investigations are going to reveal that their insolvency has something to do with the 2011 hack. I think one possibility that people are overlooking is that perhaps the attacker snagged a whole bunch of code off Gox's servers, and then analyzed it later and found exploitable bugs that allowed the attacker(s) to subsequently bleed Gox over time.


Peter's is a good theory.  in fact, i take it one step further.  i think it was probably gvt agents who took it down from 17.5 to 0.002 at the time.

what a crazy way to accumulate coins, if it was indeed just a hacker.  if he had really stole source code, he would have just bled 100 coin lots over the next 3 yrs as was apparently done according to WizSec.  no drama.  i remember quite vividly watching the attack take place real time on what was then used, Sierra Charts.  it was a straight down spiral of the price with no intervening buys, just selling.  it reminded me of watching the Bear Stearns chart plummet in real time back in 2008.  it's indescribable seeing such a thing happen right before your very eyes.  it was so public and so obvious that the guy Kevin got identified immediately for having bought 259684 BTC for under $3000:

06/19/11 17:51  Bought BTC  259684.77 for 0.0101

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20207.0

no, my bet is on gvt agents who were trying to destroy Bitcoin.  this board was covered with obvious trolls even back then and mtgox had just captured the public's attention for the first time with the run to 32.  since then, we have found out an astounding number of facts about NSA's unabashed unconstitutional actions to invade privacy and perform sabotage such as Stuxnet, Gemalto, Prism, Merkel's cellphone, etc, etc.  The SR agents were methodical, ruthless, and matter of fact about stealing SR coins acting with impunity.  doesn't seem to far a stretch that gvt agents would steal from mtgox while taking it down at the same time.  it would explain the radio silence on the whole issue as well as an attempt to bury the truth forever.
2177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 19, 2015, 05:09:08 AM
Somebody's gonna have a problem:


Ltc still didnt hit target it will be dragged down till it does

Nah
2178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 19, 2015, 02:53:42 AM

Scandalous. Not surprising, but still, this is the kind of thing people should go to jail for, or at least get fired...

however, I expect no one involved in this scandal will even receive so much as a suspension.

Modern justice at its best.

< tinfoil hat time - this is probably intentionally leaked to provoke the elimination of the death penalty so that penitentiary for-profit institutions can collect more tax dollars and profits instead of killing their meal tickets.. /tinfoil>

...or... building on that: to apologize more direct killings from the police (criminals are never punished, so we need to put them down..)  The situation we have in Brazil


Just people with power always needing to be right to justify their existence.
2179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 18, 2015, 11:48:52 PM
So sickening:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fbi-overstated-forensic-hair-matches-in-nearly-all-criminal-trials-for-decades/2015/04/18/39c8d8c6-e515-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html
2180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: April 18, 2015, 05:46:52 AM
Somebody's gonna have a problem:

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