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1861  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you think should be the right Bitcoin price as of Februray 2017? on: February 07, 2017, 11:28:26 PM
Bitcoin price should be at 1200+ if the PBOC has not released a Fud that make the bull run last January to stop and dropping Bitcoin at sub $800.  So I guess The price of Bitcoin this February should  have been surpassed the ATH and sitting between $1200 and $1300.
1862  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 07, 2017, 10:58:49 PM
The increase of the liquidity or price argument is the argument we used to have by the financial system, whereby those who invest in the BTC want to escape.  Roll Eyes Those same financiers who are responsible for the crisis of 2008 with the securitization of questionable debt, those who put thousands of American families on the street to earn a few $, the same who have pushed the Greece debt irresponsibly on the back of Europe, the same who drive our farmers to suicide, confiscating all the value added of their work , the same growing companies to negative layoffs in the company only for a short term gain...

In short, the financiers to push out.


But still Bitcoin will never replace dollars, it can be an alternative but it will never take the place of  Dollar as the main currency of a country.  Dollar might be replace by another currency created by the government but Bitcoin will always be an alternative currency as the highest it can be.
1863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: lucky ! does it influences by a woman beside of us? on: February 07, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Its only a few times I saw a player/gambler whose asked their GF (girl friend) to have a chair beside of them to watch how they play especially when it's in dice gambling or card gambling
Both these player whose brought their GF or woman beside of them really get their lucky
By these think
I start to wonder
Is it true that they got their lucky from a woman beside of them Huh
Apologize if I asking about something like secret think which view player use in play

This you are telling after seeing lot of movies where in gambling the gambler goes with girls, but in real world the gambler goes only alone or with friends, only if some of them are going for fun they go with friends and it may be girls also. But woman luck is very old pattern and in todays world when their is all online gambling is going on so cannot say who is playing with whom

Nope sometimes gambler goes with their lovers or partner.  This stuff happen in real life.  But I can say  luck is not affected on who is with you.  It just come in random. If it favors you then it favors you even if you are alone or with your enemy.  It is all chance or coincidence and I bet if they do it regulary, the time will come that the guy will lose more.
1864  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: February 07, 2017, 10:18:52 PM
Bitcoin bull run is not yet finish, if Bitcoin breaks the ATH it will probably go up till $1300, so I think buying bitcoin now is a good time.  Aside from that, even if Bitcoin have some setback, it will recover and goes up in price again.  Another thing is Bitcoin looking strong at $1k usd,  until next FUD is realease, it will continuously go up in price, slowly.
1865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Creators voice? on: February 07, 2017, 08:33:48 PM
Craig Wright was the closest person to place evidence that he is nakamoto.

Not only is this false (he has not provided a single shred of evidence, when it would be easy for the real Satoshi to provide near-incontrovertible evidence), but the exact opposite is true: *substantial* evidence has been provided that he was falsifying data in an attempt to prove he was Satoshi.

I think the best evidence is that he sign a message from the address that is known as owned by Satoshi.  If he can do that, then there is no doubt, he is the one.  There is no need for any other evidence, a sign message from that Bitcoin Address is enough.  Prove it on the Blockchain.
1866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: February 07, 2017, 06:57:03 PM
I think Friedrich Nietzsche said it best — 'And those who were seen dancing were thought to be  insane by those who could not hear the

music.'

We are dancing on the music of a ground breaking technology, also called : The Internet of Money and the rest of the Fiat slaves are not

hearing the music. Can we blame them for not dancing?

We should make them hear the music, and the only way to do this, will be to increase the volume. The volume on the exchanges and the

volume of merchants and the volume of Bitcoin ATM's and the volume of information on public social media.

                                                       -= Increase the volume, so that we can all dance together =-
That is a nice analogy but at the same time, it is not like they are deaf, they are the ones holding their hands against their ears and saying, la la la, I don’t hear you, so for those that do that I do blame them, by being unwilling to listen, bitcoin is everywhere if you put some attention.
Bitcoin is everywhere but people are not willing to adopt it or are not willing to show any interest in using it as they strongly believe that bitcoin will not survive long in future and may disappear or may get replaced by new currency in future and that is the reason they prefer to continue with fiat for making transactions.
Then they need to stop believing everything they see in the news, because bitcoin is looking very solid right now and there does not seem any reason to think bitcoin could disappear anytime soon, so people need to learn how to inform themselves instead of just believing everything they hear.

But the problem is people are incline to believe in news rather than the fact said by other people.  Aside from that, it is already established in the mindset of people that whatever comes from the news is 80% truth (though actually it is not because news tends to exaggerate).  And most people are too lazy to dig in for more info themselves.
1867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 06, 2017, 08:28:10 PM
No, i am not RICH from gambling. Gamble only makes me poor. If there is a guy who rich from gambling, maybe he just lucky. Not all people lucky enough to take money away from casino. Maybe 1:1000 person rich from gambling. If you want rich, go find some job. Gamble is for fun. Not to make money.

Me too I'm not rich in gambling because it's really hard to say that you can be a rich one in gambling. And maybe if I can hit a jackpot from the lottery maybe that's the way to become rich from gambling however it is still not happening and there are  a lot of ways to use before it happens.
in fact i am also not rich from gambling, but still there are so many other people who have good experience in gambling and making good money, and so they are really rich from trading. i have personal experience in my local area, one of my friend is too good in gambling and is really too much rich from gambling

Well lots of people are trying their luck to get rich in gambling including us Smiley. We cannot blame them especially if they do not have any other means to get rich.  Like for example, a person who has no big capital, and do not have a decent job has a slim chance to be rich.  So this person try his luck in gambling especially betting on the national lottery for the big prize.
1868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Reason Bitcoin will always be #1 on: February 06, 2017, 07:33:16 PM
Bitcoin will still number due to the first crypto currency alive and successful by many years and now many company are using bitcoin and more investors are using it.. if you can notice buy many site right now they are added bitcoin as payment using bitpay.. and i think its really help us more people to know about bitcoins because of easily to use and the price is not stable and getting the benefits of the price increase..

You are right. Bitcoin really use more and more people. That is why it is not only the Cryptocarrency #1, but it will be a very long time. Remove him might only some revolutionary technology that may appear in future. And it will be very soon.
yes the number of bitcoin users are more than any other crypto currency which make bitcoin as number one currency of the world. bitcoin has so many other feathers which also turn bitcoin as number one currency of the world.

Indeed, the base users or the people who adopt it and use it will define why Bitcoin is number one currency.  Though I think Bitcoin is not number one in Technology, the economy and huge userbase make up for it. 
1869  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Money laundering via BTC on: February 06, 2017, 05:30:58 PM
They would surely see the bitcoins disadvantage when they are planning to accept bitcoin on their place. They saw that bitcoin cant really be controlled because of its decentralized feature thats why government dont really like this thing. Money laundering is very possible on bitcoin.

There were a lot of exchanger sites that follows kyc policy so whatsthe point of banning bitcoin because of money laundering they say? If then they should banned fiat in the first place as well because obviously it was involved more than 1000x in money laundering than btc

In deed Bitcoin is traceable , so I guess Bitcoin is actually an anti money laundering tool, while fiat money is more anonymous, because if you spend money, there is no recorded transaction aside from the receipt, and there is no way other people can verify it to where is that money sent unless publish by the one who did the transaction.
1870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 06, 2017, 03:02:36 PM
I think small investment make sense.  Before putting a bigger investment, we need to test the company by investing a small amount.  Then if it is proven that the company is legit and is all true in its policy, a bigger investment will be followed.  Small investment can function as dry run.

As for those who have only small amount, it does make sense especially if you are targeting the trading industry.  You can multiply it if you know how just need some time .  All you need is to access the platform and trade.
1871  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Mass Adoption even possible.. on: February 05, 2017, 07:13:17 PM
Honestly I don't know how the term mass adoption would be defined.
Bitcoin is mainly an online currency and a few million people all around the globe use it already.
From that point of view you could say that a mass of people has already adopted it.
But will a majority of the people use bitcoin one day?
I don't think so. People like their fiat, and for most of them there is no need to go into bitcoin.

There is always a possibility.  We know that there are people giving up on bitcoin but there are more people that are adopting Bitcoin everyday.  With this trend of event continue, we can see more and more percent of people will be involve in Bitcoin economy.  Mass adoption is happening, it maybe not that fast but it is. So I guess we just need to wait until we can say Bitcoin had been adopted by masses.
We need to keep in mind that bitcoin is really a very new innovation (it has less than a decade from its foundation) and people have used fiat money for centuries, and precious metals for millenniums. When first mobile phones emerged 30 years ago, none thought they will be in the hands of everyone these days. So I think it is just a matter of some years to achieve that expected massive adoption.

I agree, we are just waiting sometime here.  And if they do not consider bitcoin will not be adopted by masses because of the high cost just accessing it like internet connection, lol then I can say internet has not been mass adopted.  Anyway, as the time pass I believe that access to bitcoin will be easier than it is now.  Development will be good enough to make it to mainstream.  From there we can see almost all internet user have adopted Bitcoin.
1872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 05, 2017, 05:45:29 PM
I want to know what you guys think about this, I have stopped gambling but still trade so does this mean I am still gambling?? I don't trade on basis of luck I trade using my skills would it still be considered gambling??

Please tell me what do you think.

I think if you trade on basis of your own skills, analize market, etc. before making decisions than this is not gambling.
Luck is important part of many activities, but that doesn't mean that every enterprinier or trader can be considered as gambler.
Luck is important part only  to those who failed to do their research, analyze the market and does not have the skill to predict the trend or the market price.  If the trader only relies on luck then he think of trading as gambling, better yet he should just play gambling games and maybe his luck will work more on the Gambling Casinos.
1873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 05, 2017, 03:31:19 PM

you got that right. I think that's the biggest mistake one can do when gambling. Greediness would make you lose any sense of reasoning and in the process increase your chance of losing a big amount. I think it would also be advisable to choose a gambling type that would at least give you a decent chance for consistent earnings when you analyze facts and information.


I think you are implying either sports betting or poker and blackjack here.   Since this kind of gambling requires data gathering on who is the opponent or team participant.  I do not know but I think all of these games are still affected by luck and actually the deciding factor.  If you do not fail to analyze it, you will conclude the same .
1874  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin is banned on: February 05, 2017, 02:18:29 PM
I think these two country are trying to regulate Bitcoin, though at some point of history they plan to ban bitcoin but instead they just think of advising their population to take cautious.  At this time, this two country are open to Bitcoin but still trying ways on how to regulate it.
1875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 04, 2017, 07:05:24 PM
Out of 100 only one or two people will become rich through gambling, through gambling winning chances are very less. Gambling is completely based on pure luck so the chances becoming rich is also very rare. It can be possible through horse races and jack pots, casinos.

I don't think winning percentage is so high like 2 to 3% in gambling. If 2 or 3 people become rich in 100 people then by now most of the gambling sites would have been closed because those 100 people may be spending small amounts and not everyone spends a lot of money. Becoming rich from gambling is almost impossible, and it is only possible from the lottery and not so easy to win a lottery.
Well, at least it's possible, that's the only thing we need to know so we would not stop gambling. If others getting millionaire with gambling then we have to be positive with our aim. We strive hard and work smarter in order to be at that level. I know it's hard but it's not impossible, let us not limit our imagination but limit our bankroll only up to what we can only risk.

Well we can imagine all the winnings and luxury of being rich thru gambling.  But I guess we will all be trap in there, just imagination, in reality though I am not saying that it is not possible, but the chance of getting rich is too small.  Statistics show it that only few out of millions of people who are gambling became rich .  Sadly I am one of those millions of people.
1876  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: February 01, 2017, 08:33:26 PM
the both choose is good, trading you can get much return is have skill
investing you can get return without anything do it, but online investment must becareful, because majority only ponzy scheme
Yeah, trying to get into the altcoins trading is a really risky job especially for new users those who have no experience in it, in my opinion trading with altcoins is just like signing your death wish because the altcoins are really unstable in terms of price and the exchange rate is really low.

Someone I known is been earning a huge amount just by trading altcoins.  And actually that is the reason why traders are flocking in to altcoin market, the high volatility. 

But overall if you want a fast return go trading, if you want a stable and more secure income go investing.  It is a matter of your choice.  People have different perception but if you ask me I will go for trading.
1877  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What are you looking to buy in BitcoinTalk Marketplace? on: February 01, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
I am looking for collectible item in the marketplace.  I think that having at least some memorabilia of Bitcoin stuffs is awesome.  But well the stuff I like were almost put in an auction or too expensive for me LOL.  So I am just suiting myself on looking at those item until I have enough fund to buy them.
1878  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: February 01, 2017, 07:01:56 PM
I don't succumb to my emotions. I just try my best to stay cool and don't follow my emotions. Especially when the coins are dumping or pumping. That would be a problem if you follow them and you wll for sure lose money. Especially when you see it dumping, then you follow the dump.

Whenever thing gets rough in either trading or gambling, or even in an investment ventures, I do not let emotion takes over me.  I just need a deep breath and release it with a sigh, then I'm good.   It always works out.  I think it is on the matter of how we view things that help us in controlling our emotions.
1879  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: February 01, 2017, 06:07:06 PM
so many ways to generate a bitcoin here, but now, I can only produce bitcoin through the signature campaign. I hope that I can produce 0.1 BTC per week, but this time I think it is impossible. see people produce 0.1 BTC of trading makes me jealous, and wanted to try it. but when tried, it always fails.

There is only one way, and that is thru learning.  Don't get discourage if you failed the first time.  There is always next time in trading as long as you do not give up in your goal.  I would say, study and learn first.  Then if you grasp the basic knowledge on trading, apply it while observing the market carefully.  You should be well aware of all the factor that may affect your stocks, so researching will be a great help.  If you have all the necessary tools and knowledge, profiting is the next stop.
1880  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price climbing fast again on: February 01, 2017, 05:14:42 PM
This climb isn't fast in comparison to what I'm used too, but maybe that is because I'm watching the charts more. But honestly Bitcoin breaking $1,000 is really possible in a month. The fact it has held its ground at these prices aside from the China scare is very promising. I do wish the Segwit/Scaling thing was resolved, as I feel that is where a lot of uncertainty lies. Get Segwit [or any scaling solution!] and we will see the market choose a direction.

Indeed it was not fast like last January, though it is a surprice that after breaking the $950 wall, it breaks  $970 wall almost touching $980, a $20 in a day after a several day being almost idle.  Anyway, I still can't see any bull trap here LOL unless it touches $1100 tomorrow, just in case I will be cashing out at $990.  Tongue
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