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2081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC? on: January 13, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
Guys I'm working something, which I will definitely share with the community soon.

I've a very simple question to all traders and Bitcoin enthusiasts.

Would you be interested in taking part in a lottery where you can win 100 Bitcoins by investing 0.01 BTC?

Basic rules are as follows: Participation cost  0.01 BTC, 15,000 participants.. 1 winner gets 100 Bitcoins, 20 Runner up winners get 2 Bitcoins each.

I'm working on a similar concept - wanted some thoughts from you folks before I take it any further..

So will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC? Yes or No and why...





Someone like me would not do something like this as it is not different from playing a lotto where you get to buy a ticket for ridiculous amount and expecting to win big. It does not happen at all. The chances are to low for me to take because that would be 1/150000. I would rather give it a run where my chances are pretty higher and when I lose I am sure that I am in control.

Your services is one that would need a lot of trust to be won from members of the community because there is no one to guarantee that participants are not been cheated and 100btc for one person while the next twenty runner ups get 2 bitcoin each? I would prefer that the 100btc should be further broken down and if possible 10btc so the excess of the jackpot is further spread to other participants down to someone who will get .01btc with that you might get a fair amount of interested people.
2082  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan request 0.1btc for 5hours max! repay 0.108btc instant exchange from hand. on: January 13, 2018, 11:00:13 AM
Do you really believe that someone will just blindly send you btc without collateral? Think again.
I know. only have my account with me. Normal i dont need a loan but my trezor is still at home. If not then trade will be cancelled. nothing to die for Wink

And you think your account worth that amount you are asking for, that's a whopping above $1000 but the only thing you have to offer is your full member account? I guess you will have not option than to wait till you get home before you can execute your trade.

Op account stoled by thewinnerpro be informed!!

This is another twist to your claim which I feel will do more damage to your request if anyone is even considering filling that loan of yours. Deal with it man.
2083  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Market and Wallstreet on: January 13, 2018, 10:17:06 AM
Hi all,

So I came across this artical and wanted to know everyones thoughts..

http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-explosion-wall-street-spends-bonuses-2018-1?IR=T ('Get ready for an explosion' in bitcoin as Wall Streeters spend their bonus checks)

Potential big gains over the week or so?

"When Wall Street bonuses hit bank accounts on January 15, I imagine we'll see a crypto buying spree of epic proportions," 

JuneTueadays

News like this will just force people who are not in the know to make some irrational decisions while this news is proclaiming January 15 as the time bitcoin will see a pump due to bonus going to land in bank accounts, I have read a thread about how January 15 will be a black Monday for bitcoin and how bitcoin price will crash to the tail end supported by graphs and analysis.

The issue is whether they collect their bonuses or not, what will happen will and deciding that wall street guys will channel their bonuses to crypto is just a speculation without a basis to be predicting human action when it could change over night. My advice, if you are not ready to face whatever is going to come, just sell and wait till the next time to enter the market or maybe you might have to wait forever.
2084  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin is called and valued superior still? on: January 13, 2018, 09:58:50 AM
You see I don't know much about the technicality of POW or POS or anything of such but I want to argue in one direction as to why people think bitcoin is the king.

1. Not everyone thinks so, just the majority thinks bitcoin is the king and the majority will always have their way while the minority will have their say. If they can convince enough people to their side, they can then become the majority.

2. Outside the community of some other crypto community, a lot of people who are involved in crypto don't know anything else other than bitcoin and when you tell them the existence of others, it seems you are saying gibberish. This set of people are most the majority of those interested in crypto so to them, bitcoin is the only one and thereafter the king.

3. You have mentioned a lot of problem in bitcoin which is valid but I don't know one particular coin that solves all the problem for everyone to focus attention on rather you see several coins claiming to replace bitcoin, better than bitcoin, next bitcoin among several names. Tell me, how do I take such serious when I don't even know which one exactly.
2085  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Thoughts On Chinese Gov on: January 13, 2018, 07:09:42 AM
Where did you come across this? I would've thought the very last thing they'd want is another crypto bull run which any legitimizing on their part would spark off. Then again they could be privately piling up the 'approved' coins. Personally I hope China goes away until rejecting crypto is actively damaging their economy. Nothing good has come out of China.


In my opinion, this is just another baseless speculation or another category of FUD. China has already made it clear that they don't want anything to do with cryptocurrency anymore except maybe their own state-sponsored and issued cryptocurrency which may not materialize at all. Lately, they are already sending a strong message to Bitcoin miners locating within the country to think now of moving out of the country as the environment is not anymore conducive to such an activity. China is a big market for cryptocurrency and in fact there are still so many Chinese which is into this discreetly but since the government has a different views on it then it would be better that we stay away from China.

Posts like Op makes one wonder how convenient it is for people to sit down and make a well thought fabrication to make it seems the right one. Times without number we heard news from China and every thing has been on the negative concerning crypto currencies. Not that policies cannot be changed, but the body language of the parties involved is also something to consider as well and the body language of the Chinese authorities suggest otherwise on everything Op has announced.

Just not too long ago, we heard about how their cracking down on Mining sites have taken a new turn to make it more difficult. A government that is looking to resurfacing a crypto currency will surely not tow that part and for concluding that because of AliPay hack will  just give a sure pass to crypto currency is saying there is no other option to hacking other than that when all that would be needed is to update a more secure firewall.
2086  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coincorner is Scam or Trusted? on: January 12, 2018, 05:02:03 PM
No i m from India

What service exactly are you looking for from them that there is no established site or company that is doing that and with good reputation to their name and won't because of your money run away. The way the internet is, the moment a site cannot be verified even with claiming they are in UK (address can actually be fabricated) you should just stay away to avoid the stories that touch and there is nothing anyone will be able to do about it.
2087  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ViaBTC S9 cloud mining contracts maintenance fee from 6 to 50% Highway Robbery on: January 12, 2018, 11:34:36 AM
The worst profitable contract gets even worse.
At least they helped me to accellerate some stuck transactions but it seems that contracts do not get you more accellerations anymore.

Looks like another "soon to be dead" company so i think its best to go hands up and take at least the 300 Sad


Even though I am not a fan of cloud mining services as I have always been critical of their business because its the most abused platform to scam innocent people of their resources but that being said I don't think they could have made any other decision due to what is being faced by them and what we have been reading on the clamping down of mining sites in China as well how difficult it is to do business, they have no option than to increase their charges. But I still don't see the justification of up to 50% from 6% that is way too high and it further elongates the long period of time one have to wait to ROI in the first instance.
2088  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will help bitcoin reach 20k again? on: January 12, 2018, 08:20:23 AM
Which updates in the coming months etc. will help bitcoin to recover to 20k again?

This question is something that I myself have asked all over again but no answer to it and every time it seems that there is a push towards that direction, something just happen that push things back to the initial position. But unfortunately there is nothing one individual can do than keep pushing and hope with all the good news and development in the pipeline when fully deployed could make price reached the all time high which seems to be eluding every day.
2089  Economy / Speculation / Re: [BREAKING NEWS] BTC TO ALL TIME HIGH!!! on: January 12, 2018, 06:23:31 AM
In an encouraging series of events Goldman Sachs claims that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency has a viable future as a form of money, KFC Canada starts accepting Bitcoin for buckets of fried chicken, and the state of Arizona has proposed SB 1091 which will allow you to pay your taxes in Bitcoin.

The most important of the news is not even about KFC because I know a lot of people cannot live with idea of buying one chicken at a premium by the time you add the fees at the present moment and later six months later realise that you have actually paid like *10 for that same item so personally I would use my fiat to buy my chicken and thanks to them for bringing more popularity to bitcoin.

The one I am joyous about proposed law of the state of Arizona which if passed into law will direct a new course of discussion across board which will then gradually spread to other places. If I can pay tax with it, I can then pay school fees with bitcoin or even pay medical bills as well. In all, this is a good news.
2090  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Anyone whose own some fair amount of bitcoins should also own a mining machine on: January 11, 2018, 08:20:14 PM
Considering the big threat of decentralization of bitcoin blockchain.  Doesn't it make a lot of sense for people whose a fair amount of bitcoin should at least operate one bitcoin miner machine ?  Considering the high fee and transactions unconfirmed...I am so sick of it and on the verge of pulling the trigger in purchasing one bitcoin miner for my home residence.  I'm not talking about running it for profit or as a business...I'll be happy to break even and accumulate some bitcoin to HODL !! Don't we want to take control of our bitcoin investment and its future ? We wouldn't have the high fee stuck on the blockchain of unconfirmed transactions.

Imagine million of bitcoin owner now could operate our own miner and have a stake in determining the bitcoin/ blockchain  future ?? People are complaining about the problem that bitcoin facing but yet they wouldn't lift their finger to do anything...

Can somebody here, whose running their single miner in their own private home - please share us the detail and how you are making it !!

Anybody whose own 10 or more bitcoins should buy one miner machine - what do you think ?

I completely agree with you that until we start helping ourselves the better for us and for bitcoin also. Today we blame the miners for being greedy or even dumping bitcoin for other profitable coins in their own opinion, again we have read about the proposed crack down of bitcoin mining from China which will mean a lot of doom if that should happen. In some part of the world, people don't want for government to provide basic things for them. They have gardens at the back of their houses to plant fruits, there is borehole to provide water, there are community schools etc.

The moment we can all have a miner even a solo one that I can confirm my transaction, we have less issue to higher about as it relates to bitcoin.
2091  Economy / Economics / Re: Trading Conspiracy Theory - Bitcoin on: January 11, 2018, 12:55:33 PM
We have not seen bad news lately, but most Crypto currencies are losing value. We have to ask ourselves, why that might be?

The theory is that Wall Street traders are using Institutional Capital <other people's money> to create a favourable environment for them to buy bitcoins for themselves.

The South Korean clamp down is just FUD that are being used as an excuse to dump some coins. <not their own> There is no threat, because the South Korean government is just tightening regulations to protect their consumers from unregulated exchanges.

We know Wall Street traders are getting large Bonuses in January and some of them might invest some of that money into Bitcoin for themselves. Why would they not manipulate small markets like Bitcoin <with other people's money> to buy cheaper  bitcoins for themselves? <Dumping coins to push down the price and then buy cheap coins for themselves and then buying coins again with other people's money, driving the price up again and then selling their coins at a large profit?>

What do you think?  

Like you have rightly titled, its a theory because there is no evidence to back it up. This analogy is very much reasonable as to what is going on because traders on Wall Street can go to any length to turn out profit for themselves but some part of the theory is where I am seeing some gap and would be glad if you can help fill it.

1. If the traders are expecting bonuses in January which means that some would have been collecting theirs already and they are investing in bitcoin, then price should be increasing and not what is going on now and if they are driving down the price, how exactly are they doing it?

2. Before the South Korea news which you regarded as FUD, price has been falling gradually since last year, what were the traders spreading at the time?
2092  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin drops $2,000 in value as South Korea announces planned trading ban on: January 11, 2018, 11:28:22 AM
Bitcoin drops $2,000 in value as South Korea announces planned trading ban

The value of bitcoin plunged 13.5% in the early hours of Thursday after news hit that South Korea is planning to ban cryptocurrency trading.

News of the ban follows the raiding of local cryptocurrency exchanges by police and tax authorities over alleged tax evasion, as one of the key nations driving the demand for bitcoin and other virtual currencies attempts a clampdown.

“There are great concerns regarding virtual currencies and the justice ministry is basically preparing a bill to ban cryptocurrency trading through exchanges,” justice minister Park Sang-ki said.

It would have been better if you had provided the link to the source of the news so for follow up reading and person that post after you would not have said that if he had seen and verified the source to know whether to rely on it or not. I saw the price take a reverse turn but I am not panicked because I know at one point, the answer as to why that happen will pop up and this is one of the answers.

When news like this broke, its normal for price to fall as even price has been falling from the all time high of close to $20000 that we witnessed close to the end of last year to the present moment how much more when there is a major threat for everyone to react to. But the issue is that, I don't expect this to last long and its because there is precedence to rely upon. When the Chinese government announced her plan to regulate the way things are done,price crashed but we bounced back even stronger and at the time, the stake the Chinese controls was very much higher than what South Korea can control.
2093  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Having fun with crypto. on: January 11, 2018, 08:37:21 AM
Nice! I've actually forked litecoin 0.8 last night, and am well on my way to creating a useless coin!

Let me know when you've done yours :-)

This is one of the reason why a lot of calamity and several cases of shit coins abound in the crypo world and its because of people like you who create coins not because of anything or to solve any problem neither with any vision or purpose but simply to have a name attached to it.  Even when we have argued against the solution to every bitcoin problem as a forked but we admit that there are problems but now forking LiteCoin, which does not even have any issue to the best of my knowledge or reached the capacity where it gets known to compete ( maybe to you alone) this is coming.

I guess you are envisaging that because the forked coins of bitcoin is already saturated that people have lost count, its better you start with LiteCoin in other to be part of the next millionaire from $500 market cap to a multi millionaire at some point. Congrats on adding to dragging the industry backward.
2094  Economy / Gambling / Re: Will be interesting for you? on: January 10, 2018, 10:06:29 PM
Thanks for answers!

Are you interested in such gambling system:
1. You make a payment
2. The timer starts for 1 minute
3. Someone is betting etc...
4. The winner will be who will make the last bid and collect all coins

Real-time coins payment.

If you want to run gambling site or a binary site just run one but not the two. To me, binary are worse than gambling because in gambling you know the odds you are going against, you can verify your seed, you know the house edge and if you are cheated there is a way if one is mathematically sound, you can call out the site but not binary and not even the one you have here and my questions to that is simple.

How exactly do you want to know the last person or how would that be determine which means the admin of the site can just enter few seconds to the end of the minute with their own username and since we don't know each other, we assume its someone else from another country or city but we have just been robbed with no way to know?
2095  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Tax issues when I bought a BTC from United States, and sold to another countries on: January 10, 2018, 06:38:08 PM
Hi Guys.

I live in the united states but my citizenship is South Korea.
I've bought some BTC from Gdax, and found that the price in a Korean exchange market is really much higher.
So I've just sold it to the market in Korea, which doesn't impose a tax, and got some arbitrage profit.
After that, I transferred the profit from South Korea to the states and sold it again.

In such case, I'm not sure how to report to IRS. Also, I happened to notice that it could be regarded as "money laundering" but I'd like to ask your thought.

Please share your thought!


From the way I understand tax laws, you will have to report to the IRS and how to go about is normal about when you sell in the United States because that is the way its going to be interpreted you residence. Regarded as money laundering is to the extreme people that launder money won't bother to do the right thing like you wanted to do. All you did was identifying a market abroad that would give you a more decent return I haven't read any law against that but be sure to pay the tax on the entire income not on the amount you would have sold if you made it in the United States.

With that, I expect that everything should go the right way, there is nothing wrong in getting money from abroad just be sure you have an explanation for it and since tax arises, then that area has been covered.
2096  Economy / Economics / Re: Do banks have and advantage over cryptos because of the multiplier? on: January 10, 2018, 04:28:28 PM
As you know, banks can lend more money than they have in deposits, however you currently cannot do that with cryptos. Do you think that it is a decisive advantage or it could be somehow countered?

This is one angle I haven't considered myself and its really something because it means if both bank and crypto have 21million in USD, banks can then create as much as they are allowed by regulations but this cannot be said in the case of crypto. But on another look this is what caused the financial quagmire that we have in which people spend more than what they have by going beyond their means in wanting to lead a good life and the moment they lose their source of income, they tend to go to the point they don't want. But with crypto, no one is allowed to spend more than what he has, there is no further creation of money it is fixed and that is an advantage that force every one not to go beyond your means.
2097  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think bitcoin redistributes wealth or just makes the wealthy richer? on: January 10, 2018, 03:35:03 PM
Like any other currency, bitcoin is not redistributing wealth to the common mass. However it has given an immense opportunity to the educated and tech-savy mass. People who are good with computers can still earn bitcoins or other currencies by providing various service to the crypto community. But that doesn't necessarily mean fair distribution is happening. Only people with a certain set of qualities are eligible to earn it. So it is giving that particular set of people a chance to live a decent life but not to all levels of society.

I think I will have to disagree with this, because its not like every other currency that in terms of distribution. In the world today, there are certain  level of education you need to be able to practice in some profession in other to get some decent returns every month and even some amount of years to do that ( with the exception of the big entrepreneurs or inventors). For example as an accountant just starting a career, there is no way you make as much money as someone who has started practicing in the industry or firm for ten year which means he has more money to make more money and that is the way fiat as currency is distributed.

While I agree that some level of understanding is needed to be involved in bitcoin, it still cannot be compared to bitcoin because it does not even matter whether I am an Msc holder or Bsc or maybe college degree holder to be able to have one. Its also not a respecter of race every one have the equal opportunity just acquire the basic and simple knowledge and that is gradual distribution of wealth.
2098  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why are ICO banned for some countries on: January 09, 2018, 08:18:10 PM
Why are ICOs banned for residents of some countries and how does the government know that if I bought the coins/tokens in an ICO or from an exchange ?

I'm so frustrated about it because I had the opportunity to invest in some great ICOs which are now doing so well.
I didn't take part in those ICOs as I did not want to break any laws and knew that regulations are coming in on the crypto any time. 

Any thoughts ??


A lot of reasons would be given by the SEC or Tribunal or even Fraud Agencies of government as to why it is not right invest in ICO some will even go to the extent of saying they are protecting you but the truth of it is that why do you need protection to spend your money as you wish. Imagine the return you would have if you invested in those promising ICOs that are now doing well.

The fact is government are protecting themselves because they know if you are given the freedom you can decide to be investing in a project in another country which means taking money out of the home economy and with that your freedom means they have less control over you. How government will know if one engage in it, they might not know but the fear alone is going to keep people out and those who are bold enough to still go ahead are scared to brag about it for the fear of being a target.
2099  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John McAfee: The Spokesperson for Cryptocurrency? on: January 09, 2018, 04:37:55 PM


I may not like the man when I first heard about him talking about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency but certainly he has grown lovable in my eyes as months go by. He has become like the the unofficial spokesperson for the world of cryptocurrency...speaking his own ideas, opinions and predictions of what can be months/years from now with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Of course, some of his projections can be outlandish to say the least but it is always nice to have him in here. The world already know his 1-Million-Bitcoin-in-2020 and otherwise he would do the unthinkable which nobody would be interested to see (haha!).

Lately, he has been the focus in the limelight for the many because his endorsements for some coins that resulted into pumps and profits for the many who actively followed what he is going to say. Do you think that John McAfee can be the right man for cryptocurrency? Should we adopt him as our official defender and spokesperson?


There is no doubt that John McAfee have huge amount of followers which a lot of people have benefited from his wealth of knowledge but appointing him as the overall spokesperson is something that might come back against the community in the long run in my own way of thinking.

1. That single action would defeat the very fabric of the crypto world which decentralization and anonymity because it would then mean that McAfee would need to be contacted when government or anybody wants to make a decision concerning the crypto world. How are we sure that he wont compromise in the long run.

2. Another is the opening of rivalry that this will bring then it means a lot of people who have even contributed immensely to the crypto industry would also want to be recognised. We have Roger Ver popular in his own corner, we have Theymos of the largest bitcoin forum, we have Thomas V the developer of Electrum and a hosts of several that their input cannot be undermined.

3. Even in some quarter, a lot of people following his words on a coin are only doing it for their selfish needs and because he is also a capitalist, then it means he is equally making tons of money out of it which is even doing more damage to the market than good if you look at it in another way.
2100  Economy / Securities / Re: Escrowed Investment site on: January 09, 2018, 02:50:52 PM
Chain.group exit scammed guys. Cry Cry Cry

If this really happened, then I should consider myself an 'expert' because in my earlier post, where I predicted 3 months and Op make frantic effort to defend the HYIP scheme, but alas its not even up to 2 months before my prediction happened. How I wish, Op is back here to defend what he so much believed in and ready to defend at all cost. Until when we are also being held responsible for our own individual post or actions that someone somewhere relied upon and lost his funds ( because I am sure someone would have relied on the information by Op) the better we become more careful in vouching for services as risky as this.
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