CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Spoetnik]

@HippieTech
Do you expect people to get what that meant ?
I think in your mind that is some proof of a conspiracy you mentioned earlier.
I also already explained the CONTEXT of the quote you keep posting.
And since you did not get it before i will not bother again..

I see patterns with you.. oppose your lunacy in the slightest and you turn on people
..such as Gleb

You REALLY love posting quotes out of context then proclaiming them as proof of wild conspiracies.
yet on the other hand you are monumentally vague in explaining what your conspiracy is !

Earlier you said I was paid by Cryptsy ?
I am *almost* speechless.. ALMOST

I have little interest in arguing with you.. think what ya want.
Just thinking it would be nice for other peoples sake if you made it a lot more clearer
..what it is your actually saying.
Because you lost me.

Horus is a nice guy by the way and i have said soooo many fucking times..
He was one of the few Cryptsy chat mod's that was there all the time that stuck up for me fairly
(in my view) ..far more than others.
I keep saying (over time on this topic) i don't mind giving Horus his "props"  
He earned it.. he did the work !
He always tried to MAKE THINGS WORK.
Rather than slamming away on the ban button like crazy like say JSHock was notorious for.

So i stabbed the nice guy in the back to appease you HippieTech (posting a PM publicly he asked me not to)
..same with Crestington & his PM's
and all you do is shit all over me for it.

WHY ?
Best i can tell you are convinced i am a part of some conspiracy with Cryptsy + making coins on it.
Only conspiracy is i jokingly mentioned a bunch of times way back "ADD JACKPOTCOIN"  
Which reminds me you have no sense of humor.

I don't know what to do with you HippieTech ROFL
I'd say your a lost cause because your stubborn.
i would answer any questions you may have of me & Cryptsy but there isn't much to tell.
..your efforts / focus would be better spent else where (your barking up the wrong tree)

[Spoetnik]

@HippieTech
You were here refreshing the topic and last commented 5 minutes after i posted.
What's the matter cat got your tongue ?

It's funny on page 1 of your comment history i see you copy & pasting to Gleb Gamow
badgering him asking questions etc if he was in the army.
Then proclaiming "Silence is.." ?

Then here YOU are.. being a little chicken shit hypocrite HIDING

I am stunned to fuck & back the shit you have been pulling for ages.
How the hell are you not banned for Super Trolling & Stalking the living shit out of Crestington ?

People look at this lunatics post history just on page 1 alone..
He has targeted myself, Gleb Gamow and Crestington then sprinkled in a few comments
on some random conspiracy topics.. Illuminati and all that psycho shit.
Fuck look at his SIG here LOL
..then round & round he goes page after page targeting the same people personally.

Dude, buddy, your a god damn fucking lunatic !
And the shit you have been posting on Cresty's topics is beyond trolling.
I don't know how your not banned  

And on just that 1 page i seen another random guy we don't know..
saying you are mentally ill !
i have seen it said to you before too.

You a bloody lunatic and you need to get it through deranged head.
HippieTech come out of hiding and look at your post history and think carefully about your behavior.
That is when you are done badgering other people of hiding  

I looked at your last comments and i see the same exact pattern of wacktard lunacy.
2 guys were *suspected* of being in the Philippines so they are of course in cahoots.
making coins together.. you said to Gleb Gamow.

He did not say anything back, probably because he thinks your full of shit.. so now you
added Gleb to the conspiracy and figure he's in on it.. because he did not agree with you !
THEN because it's the Philippines you Google searched Military bases and found some over there
so now because they EXIST ..now that is ALSO proof those two Philippines guys are US soldiers
stationed in the Philippines and are in cahoots making coins together..
THEN.. since the word Army came up (because you mentioned it)
You then now proclaim you have proof of Army ties to Cryptsy (because Cryptsy had an alleged Military employee)

THEN..
Once or twice you seen me leave a comment being nice to Cresty
such as long ago when he (with out asking) made me a graphic with a penguin on it.
On my "Should Spoetnik Make a coin Poll" from 2 years back.. which was a survey to see what you'd all say.
And rather than being an asshole i thanked him.
THEN the worst thing imaginable happened you found out (probably before i did)
That Crestington was in the same town as me in Canada.. there for..
We are of course in cahoots making coins together.

See a pattern yet ?
You are bloody bonkers out of your mind bat shit insane buddy.

CHECK YOUR ASS INTO THE LOONY BIN NOW !

NO joke i am dead serious..
Do it before your psychotic delusions end up putting you on a tower with a rifle !

You are wacko lunatic ticking time bomb.
Lets just set this Bitcointalk crap aside for a minute..
Look at what you have been doing here & all over Crypto NON STOP.. for YEARS.
Go and read your post history.. tell me what you see ?
Is the world out to get you ?
Are Cryptsy Illuminati CIA Terrorist Coin Cloners hiding in your closet ?

This tragedy waiting to happen will be in the news one of these days.
Unstable wacko that needs to be put on a Terrorist watch list i think ASAP !
I suggest the staff here keep an eye on this fucker big time !

HippieTech GET HELP YOU ARE SICK
We should not have to put up with your harassment here all the time either.
So if you can't check yourself in ..then Fuck Off.
I can't speak for the others, but fuck off & leave me alone.
I see you have been pounding this topic while i am not around targeting me non stop.
..then other guys.. round & round forever.

I never did 911 and i never made or had anything at all to do with making any coins ever.
How many bloody times do i have to tell you ?

Being nice to someone here once or twice like Cresty or Horus
does not mean i am a part of a massive Illuminati coin cloning cabal
that is secretly ruling the world via the now defunct Cryptsy with BigVern & associates.

Reality check wacktard.. they can't stand me and have given me a 1 year ban last.
..as i have said 100+ times here.
My best buddy Horus also muttered shit with Jshock on two occasions after this topic
threatening to SUE Gleb Gamow & i.

SO for the love of god buddy get a god damn grip with your retarded out of control lunacy !
This exact shit i mentioned above has been dragging on with you for 3 years (minus Gleb Gamow)
And i am tired off it.. GET HELP !

[TheMage]

@HippieTech
You were here refreshing the topic and last commented 5 minutes after i posted.
What's the matter cat got your tongue ?

It's funny on page 1 of your comment history i see you copy & pasting to Gleb Gamow
badgering him asking questions etc if he was in the army.
Then proclaiming "Silence is.." ?

Then here YOU are.. being a little chicken shit hypocrite HIDING

I am stunned to fuck & back the shit you have been pulling for ages.
How the hell are you not banned for Super Trolling & Stalking the living shit out of Crestington ?

People look at this lunatics post history just on page 1 alone..
He has targeted myself, Gleb Gamow and Crestington then sprinkled in a few comments
on some random conspiracy topics.. Illuminati and all that psycho shit.
Fuck look at his SIG here LOL
..then round & round he goes page after page targeting the same people personally.

Dude, buddy, your a god damn fucking lunatic !
And the shit you have been posting on Cresty's topics is beyond trolling.
I don't know how your not banned  

And on just that 1 page i seen another random guy we don't know..
saying you are mentally ill !
i have seen it said to you before too.

You a bloody lunatic and you need to get it through deranged head.
HippieTech come out of hiding and look at your post history and think carefully about your behavior.
That is when you are done badgering other people of hiding  

I looked at your last comments and i see the same exact pattern of wacktard lunacy.
2 guys were *suspected* of being in the Philippines so they are of course in cahoots.
making coins together.. you said to Gleb Gamow.

He did not say anything back, probably because he thinks your full of shit.. so now you
added Gleb to the conspiracy and figure he's in on it.. because he did not agree with you !
THEN because it's the Philippines you Google searched Military bases and found some over there
so now because they EXIST ..now that is ALSO proof those two Philippines guys are US soldiers
stationed in the Philippines and are in cahoots making coins together..
THEN.. since the word Army came up (because you mentioned it)
You then now proclaim you have proof of Army ties to Cryptsy (because Cryptsy had an alleged Military employee)

THEN..
Once or twice you seen me leave a comment being nice to Cresty
such as long ago when he (with out asking) made me a graphic with a penguin on it.
On my "Should Spoetnik Make a coin Poll" from 2 years back.. which was a survey to see what you'd all say.
And rather than being an asshole i thanked him.
THEN the worst thing imaginable happened you found out (probably before i did)
That Crestington was in the same town as me in Canada.. there for..
We are of course in cahoots making coins together.

See a pattern yet ?
You are bloody bonkers out of your mind bat shit insane buddy.

CHECK YOUR ASS INTO THE LOONY BIN NOW !

NO joke i am dead serious..
Do it before your psychotic delusions end up putting you on a tower with a rifle !

You are wacko lunatic ticking time bomb.
Lets just set this Bitcointalk crap aside for a minute..
Look at what you have been doing here & all over Crypto NON STOP.. for YEARS.
Go and read your post history.. tell me what you see ?
Is the world out to get you ?
Are Cryptsy Illuminati CIA Terrorist Coin Cloners hiding in your closet ?

This tragedy waiting to happen will be in the news one of these days.
Unstable wacko that needs to be put on a Terrorist watch list i think ASAP !
I suggest the staff here keep an eye on this fucker big time !

HippieTech GET HELP YOU ARE SICK
We should not have to put up with your harassment here all the time either.
So if you can't check yourself in ..then Fuck Off.
I can't speak for the others, but fuck off & leave me alone.
I see you have been pounding this topic while i am not around targeting me non stop.
..then other guys.. round & round forever.

I never did 911 and i never made or had anything at all to do with making any coins ever.
How many bloody times do i have to tell you ?

Being nice to someone here once or twice like Cresty or Horus
does not mean i am a part of a massive Illuminati coin cloning cabal
that is secretly ruling the world via the now defunct Cryptsy with BigVern & associates.

Reality check wacktard.. they can't stand me and have given me a 1 year ban last.
..as i have said 100+ times here.
My best buddy Horus also muttered shit with Jshock on two occasions after this topic
threatening to SUE Gleb Gamow & i.

SO for the love of god buddy get a god damn grip with your retarded out of control lunacy !
This exact shit i mentioned above has been dragging on with you for 3 years (minus Gleb Gamow)
And i am tired off it.. GET HELP !

One of your longest direct rants I've ever seen haha. 

(now I'm a target because I've replied to you  )

[kiklo]

You are bloody bonkers out of your mind bat shit insane buddy.

CHECK YOUR ASS INTO THE LOONY BIN NOW !

Totally Agree ,

Hippie Tech is Canadian ,

@Hippie Tech ,
PM your address to Spoetnik and he can call someone to pick you up and give you some free pills, doesn't that sound nice.  
http://www.cmha.ca/mental_health/getting-help/

One of your longest direct rants I've ever seen haha.  

(now I'm a target because I've replied to you   )

He is a Penguin with a rifle, you were a target just by being within range.  
Or
Did you mean now a target for Hippie Tech, that bullseye is on your back now, and crazy don't wash off.   

 

[Spoetnik]

@The Mage LOL
You guys have to SEE what i mean with this guy.. he's fucking nuts.
LITERALLY !

Look at the guys post history here alone (never mind his Troll Box commentary etc)

The part of the brain used for objectivity is missing with that guy.
With so many people involved in Crypto we are bound to get users with mental problems.
But this guy takes the cake.. ALL THE CAKES !

I had been accused of being the nut job by Cryptsy staff & Friends on many o occasion.
I also discussed things with BitJohn and others.
I will lean one way or the other based on mounting circumstantial proof.
And feel i have my certainty driven by a percentage.
For example..
If you are the only guy in the room and the money goes missing ?
I will say you almost certainly didn't i am 99% sure etc
HippieTech will rail on with 100% for life ..even if new info comes to light.
Such as it turns out there was more people in the room we hear later.
It won't matter to him because his mind is made up.. get it guys ?

I am trying to go back on topic with this right here

I long ago had a history with Cryptsy and accusing them of things (like HippieTech)
By i talked with them about it and tried to get them to understand my *personal* perspective.
Close to my previous analogy.
I would often tell BitJohn and others on chat how things *LOOKED* suspicious.
And when ever i was saying "FUD" their cheerleaders would accuse me of acting like HippieTech
And i would say you are not hearing what i said and filling in the blanks time after time.

I think it boils down to what do YOU consider YOU have for proof of Cryptsy's past shenanigans with COINS.
I consider my perspective to be a lot more fair and grounded than HippieTech's

All i have said about Cryptsy is there is a lot of suspicion surrounding them since day 1 like a cloud.
Then you have to weigh it and analyze it and come to YOUR OWN conclusions.
We will all get different results with the "proof" on the table..

Lynching Cryptsy for stuff we can PROVE is fair.
Lynching them for stuff they are NOT guilty of is not.
And many of you out there are dirty.
Ever argue with someone that immediately starts lying like crazy and insulting you to get there way ?
The kind of people that WANT sooo badly to be right and they have such a smug chip on their shoulder
But they don't have the ability to be right so they simply plow on making an ugly mess of drama / bs.

This whole topic is about judging Cryptsy.
Well then.. what is your criteria ?
What do you consider proof of guilt of shenanigans that are dishonest in crypto with Cryptsy ?
There is common sense and then the shit HippieTech the lunatic posts..

[Hippie Tech]

You are bloody bonkers out of your mind bat shit insane buddy.

CHECK YOUR ASS INTO THE LOONY BIN NOW !

Totally Agree ,

Hippie Tech is Canadian ,

@Hippie Tech ,
PM your address to Spoetnik and he can call someone to pick you up and give you some free pills, doesn't that sound nice. 
http://www.cmha.ca/mental_health/getting-help/

One of your longest direct rants I've ever seen haha. 

(now I'm a target because I've replied to you  )

He is a Penguin with a rifle, you were a target just by being within range. 
Or
Did you mean now a target for Hippie Tech, that bullseye is on your back now, and crazy don't wash off.   

 

Will you please identify your sorry and cowardly ass.

You're mighty brave behind that dumbphone/keyboard of your's.

QUOTED FOR LEGAL PURPOSES.

[TheMage]

You are bloody bonkers out of your mind bat shit insane buddy.

CHECK YOUR ASS INTO THE LOONY BIN NOW !

Totally Agree ,

Hippie Tech is Canadian ,

@Hippie Tech ,
PM your address to Spoetnik and he can call someone to pick you up and give you some free pills, doesn't that sound nice. 
http://www.cmha.ca/mental_health/getting-help/

One of your longest direct rants I've ever seen haha. 

(now I'm a target because I've replied to you  )

He is a Penguin with a rifle, you were a target just by being within range. 
Or
Did you mean now a target for Hippie Tech, that bullseye is on your back now, and crazy don't wash off.   

 

Will you please identify your sorry and cowardly ass.

You're mighty brave behind that dumbphone/keyboard of your's.

QUOTED FOR LEGAL PURPOSES.

I assume you are talking kiklo and not me correct? I mean if you want my name its fairly public lol.

[kiklo]

Will you please identify your sorry and cowardly ass.

You're mighty brave behind that dumbphone/keyboard of your's.

QUOTED FOR LEGAL PURPOSES.

LOL,

Nope, you're the hacker you tell me.  

I prefer to work in the shadows,
surely someone with your skillz , would have no trouble hacking an old guy like me.

And you can shove your legal shenanigans up your briefs, no one is scarred of that.  

 

FYI:
I will even give you a Selfie Picture to help you figure it out.

[sirazimuth]

ive been following this thread on and off pretty much since it started (what the hell happened to the op btw?)
maybe its just me but ive never read a single post by this hippie dude that im not like "what the hell in the name of jeebus are you
frikkin on about there bud?"
 almost every one of his posts are like a quoting cluster fuck of convaluted crypto coin conspiracy poppycock
cresty this cresty that paranoid delusional nonsense. never understood a single one of em.

[Spoetnik]

ive been following this thread on and off pretty much since it started (what the hell happened to the op btw?)
maybe its just me but ive never read a single post by this hippie dude that im not like "what the hell in the name of jeebus are you
frikkin on about there bud?"
 its like every one of his posts are like a quoting cluster fuck of convaluted crypto coin conspiracy poppycock
cresty this cresty that paranoid delusional nonsense. never understood a single one of em.

The OP abandoned the topic like on page 20 or something..
Early on it got popular and he did not like how it was turning out so he left.
He went and posted a new topic saying this one was hijacked by Trolls etc.
And his new topic said pretty much contact him via PM if you want to join a lawsuit he wanted to start.
ALSO..
BigVern and BitJohn way back then talked to the guy here publicly.
I think if i recall it correctly the OP was locked out of his account because of the inactivity time-out of 6 months.
And he had problems logging back in so he came here and flipped out.
BigVern came here on this topic and said to him..
All you have to do is reset your password.
A little while later, Cryptsy staff / Owner BigVern + BitJohn and others
Said they resolved the matter with the OP privately so the issue is done.
BUT..
THE forum users kept coming here to complain etc.

I hope this is accurate & honest..and helpful

[TheMage]

ive been following this thread on and off pretty much since it started (what the hell happened to the op btw?)
maybe its just me but ive never read a single post by this hippie dude that im not like "what the hell in the name of jeebus are you
frikkin on about there bud?"
 its like every one of his posts are like a quoting cluster fuck of convaluted crypto coin conspiracy poppycock
cresty this cresty that paranoid delusional nonsense. never understood a single one of em.

The OP abandoned the topic like on page 20 or something..
Early on it got popular and he did not like how it was turning out so he left.
He went and posted a new topic saying this one was hijacked by Trolls etc.
And his new topic said pretty much contact him via PM if you want to join a lawsuit he wanted to start.
ALSO..
BigVern and BitJohn way back then talked to the guy here publicly.
I think if i recall it correctly the OP was locked out of his account because of the inactivity time-out of 6 months.
And he had problems logging back in so he came here and flipped out.
BigVern came here on this topic and said to him..
All you have to do is reset your password.
A little while later, Cryptsy staff / Owner BigVern + BitJohn and others
Said they resolved the matter with the OP privately so the issue is done.
BUT..
THE forum users kept coming here to complain etc.

I hope this is accurate & honest..and helpful

I'll be honest here, the OP seemed like he was trying to scam. MULTIPLE people (crypsty and non crypsty) told him just reset his damn PW. Instead, he just ranted and raved. It got really annoying after a while.

[kiklo]

At the 1st Post Title in this Forum

CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

Little real world information for anyone that believes they will receive a Full Refund.
Don't Count on it.

Class Actions Lawsuits are only a way to make a corporation stop doing a certain type of action.
Normally the only ones that receive any Real Money are the Lawyers and special counsels that might be paid by the proceeds.
Whatever pittance is left is divided equally among the people listed , those people don't usually get jack.  

Read the following to understand.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/04/the_class_action_racket.html

April 1, 2013
The Class Action Racket
By Lawrence W. Schonbrun

Have you ever received a notice in the mail informing you that you might be a member of a class action lawsuit?  You probably have.  Did you even bother to read it?  Probably not.  Did you ever file a claim for compensation?  Probably not.  Did you ever file an objection to the settlement?  Certainly not.  Did you know that the lawyers bringing these suits get paid regardless of how many people file claims and regardless of how many class members actually get anything out of the settlement?

In what could be the poster child for the dysfunctional class action system, plaintiffs’ lawyers in the Ford Explorer SUV class action settlement were awarded $25 million in attorneys’ feesby claiming that the class members were receiving a benefit of $500 million.  However, what class members actually received was a $500 coupon towards the purchase of a new Ford vehicle.  Only 148 of those were ever redeemed for a total value of $74,000.  That’s right -- $25 million for the lawyers although the class members actually received $74,000.

But it gets worse.  Take the infamous Bank of Boston class action.  In that case, class members had their accounts credited between $2.19 and $8.76 as a result of the settlement, but also had their accounts debited with a “miscellaneous deduction” of up to $91 -- to cover the costs of the settlement, i.e., plaintiffs’ and defendants’ attorneys’ fees and litigation costs.  For this so-called “benefit” to class members, class counsel received $8.5 million in attorneys’ fees.

It's all about focus.  Class action lawyers don't want the public to focus on the negative aspects of class action settlements -- the $91 the lawsuit is costing you.  All class action settlements focus on the benefits, however meager, but never disclose the true costs to class members and consumers generally.

Why do the lawyers get so much when their clients get so little? In the words of Federal Judge William G.  Young, “simply put, the class action vehicle is broken.” Unfortunately, the vehicle works well for the people who run it -- lawyers -- and the people who could fix it -- judges and legislators.  The injured class members who are supposed to be the primary focus of these cases have become its primary victims.  The plaintiffs’ lawyers are happy because they are getting overpaid -- massively; the defendants’ lawyers and the experts (hired by both sides and an important part of the class action scheme) are happy because they’re getting well paid (if not overpaid); the defendants are happy because they are avoiding further costly legal proceedings with unknown outcomes.  And, last but not least, the judges are happy because they are getting a case cleared off their dockets.

Unfortunately, the criterion for good judging these days is how quickly cases are processed to conclusion, not how well reasoned the outcomes.  The judge gets the additional satisfaction of having made an important decision in a big case, thereby enhancing his or her self-importance and reputation.  Some class members may even be happy -- at least those few who actually read the notice and redeemed their coupons.  (Although is getting a $500 coupon towards the purchase of a $25,000 car really something to gloat about?)  Even some class members who didn’t redeem their coupons may be happy because they assume that a bad corporation has been punished for some actual or alleged misdeed.  But we as a society should not be happy because money (we’re talking hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars) that could be going to a better use becomes nothing more than slop for thousands of lawyers feeding at the class action trough.

What’s wrong with the class action system?  Why does it put lawyers’ interests first, the public's interest last, and class members’ interests next to last?

 

FYI:
Broken down, class actions means only the Lawyers get rich and the plaintiff gets as close to $0 as possible.

[Spoetnik]

@TheMage
Ok thanks i was not sure if i got that part right.
An update for those who won't read 419 pages (everybody) LOL
Scam ? In crypto ? it can't be.. say it ain't so 

The only thing worse than a scam around here is Spoetnik posting "FUD"
Check out ALT main.. they are on a rampage deleting my topics.. again ..as usual.

You all have no fucking idea how many notifications i get here saying "Your comment was deleted"

ahh well fuck 'em.. their idiots.

[RoomBot]

@The Mage LOL
You guys have to SEE what i mean with this guy.. he's fucking nuts.
LITERALLY !


Literally? Are you implying that his package is small enough to have sexual congress with, say, pecans?

Back on topic:  I hope Perv Vern gets burned...

[sirazimuth]

At the 1st Post Title in this Forum

CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

Little real world information for anyone that believes they will receive a Full Refund.
Don't Count on it.

Class Actions Lawsuits are only a way to make a corporation stop doing a certain type of action.
Normally the only ones that receive any Real Money are the Lawyers and special counsels that might be paid by the proceeds.
Whatever pittance is left is divided equally among the people listed , those people don't usually get jack.  

Read the following to understand.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/04/the_class_action_racket.html

April 1, 2013
The Class Action Racket
By Lawrence W. Schonbrun

Have you ever received a notice in the mail informing you that you might be a member of a class action lawsuit?  You probably have.  Did you even bother to read it?  Probably not.  Did you ever file a claim for compensation?  Probably not.  Did you ever file an objection to the settlement?  Certainly not.  Did you know that the lawyers bringing these suits get paid regardless of how many people file claims and regardless of how many class members actually get anything out of the settlement?

In what could be the poster child for the dysfunctional class action system, plaintiffs’ lawyers in the Ford Explorer SUV class action settlement were awarded $25 million in attorneys’ feesby claiming that the class members were receiving a benefit of $500 million.  However, what class members actually received was a $500 coupon towards the purchase of a new Ford vehicle.  Only 148 of those were ever redeemed for a total value of $74,000.  That’s right -- $25 million for the lawyers although the class members actually received $74,000.

But it gets worse.  Take the infamous Bank of Boston class action.  In that case, class members had their accounts credited between $2.19 and $8.76 as a result of the settlement, but also had their accounts debited with a “miscellaneous deduction” of up to $91 -- to cover the costs of the settlement, i.e., plaintiffs’ and defendants’ attorneys’ fees and litigation costs.  For this so-called “benefit” to class members, class counsel received $8.5 million in attorneys’ fees.

It's all about focus.  Class action lawyers don't want the public to focus on the negative aspects of class action settlements -- the $91 the lawsuit is costing you.  All class action settlements focus on the benefits, however meager, but never disclose the true costs to class members and consumers generally.

Why do the lawyers get so much when their clients get so little? In the words of Federal Judge William G.  Young, “simply put, the class action vehicle is broken.” Unfortunately, the vehicle works well for the people who run it -- lawyers -- and the people who could fix it -- judges and legislators.  The injured class members who are supposed to be the primary focus of these cases have become its primary victims.  The plaintiffs’ lawyers are happy because they are getting overpaid -- massively; the defendants’ lawyers and the experts (hired by both sides and an important part of the class action scheme) are happy because they’re getting well paid (if not overpaid); the defendants are happy because they are avoiding further costly legal proceedings with unknown outcomes.  And, last but not least, the judges are happy because they are getting a case cleared off their dockets.

Unfortunately, the criterion for good judging these days is how quickly cases are processed to conclusion, not how well reasoned the outcomes.  The judge gets the additional satisfaction of having made an important decision in a big case, thereby enhancing his or her self-importance and reputation.  Some class members may even be happy -- at least those few who actually read the notice and redeemed their coupons.  (Although is getting a $500 coupon towards the purchase of a $25,000 car really something to gloat about?)  Even some class members who didn’t redeem their coupons may be happy because they assume that a bad corporation has been punished for some actual or alleged misdeed.  But we as a society should not be happy because money (we’re talking hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars) that could be going to a better use becomes nothing more than slop for thousands of lawyers feeding at the class action trough.

What’s wrong with the class action system?  Why does it put lawyers’ interests first, the public's interest last, and class members’ interests next to last?

 

FYI:
Broken down, class actions means only the Lawyers get rich and the plaintiff gets as close to $0 as possible.

If its just chump change (usually the case,as you rightfully pointed out) no proof or documentation required, just name and addy,
so anyone and his brother can join many of these current class actions which inevitably thins out the available funds...

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/open-lawsuit-settlements/

i got reminded of it when outta the blue,i got a $30 check in mail from one (of many) i musta
filled out like a year ago. (Toms Toothpaste).
free money for cost of postage stamp and/or a few mouse clix.
 id join the cryptsy one but thankfully i managed to get most of my funds out via dogecoin just before the ship sank.
if you lost your shirt as many did, the class action is probably not gonna do much for you.

[thunderjet]

Just alert got on  .

Vern running out of money or other  thing got so badly ,he want to shutdown that website  n start a new UI website + totally different form cryptsy . I got nothing  support msg  reply ( why they doing this lol )

Closing of Bitebi9 on 23rd.June coincided(no way by accident) with the putting rest of 3300 BTCs from selling allegedly stolen altcoins from Cryptsy to Bitcoin mixer - Bitmixer.io.Series of transactions were conducted on 21st,22 and 23rd.June and all of them to Bitmixer.io. Soon after series of huge dumps occured on Huobi and OKCoin.

Now there are no slightest doubt that Vernon is behind alleged hack.He sold all of his Bitcoins except 11825 BTCs taken on 29.July 2014.


Wallet with BTCs obtained from selling altcoins :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337

[RoomBot]

At the 1st Post Title in this Forum

CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

Little real world information for anyone that believes they will receive a Full Refund.
Don't Count on it.

Class Actions Lawsuits are only a way to make a corporation stop doing a certain type of action.
Normally the only ones that receive any Real Money are the Lawyers and special counsels that might be paid by the proceeds.
Whatever pittance is left is divided equally among the people listed , those people don't usually get jack.  

Read the following to understand.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/04/the_class_action_racket.html

April 1, 2013
The Class Action Racket
By Lawrence W. Schonbrun

Have you ever received a notice in the mail informing you that you might be a member of a class action lawsuit?  You probably have.  Did you even bother to read it?  Probably not.  Did you ever file a claim for compensation?  Probably not.  Did you ever file an objection to the settlement?  Certainly not.  Did you know that the lawyers bringing these suits get paid regardless of how many people file claims and regardless of how many class members actually get anything out of the settlement?

In what could be the poster child for the dysfunctional class action system, plaintiffs’ lawyers in the Ford Explorer SUV class action settlement were awarded $25 million in attorneys’ feesby claiming that the class members were receiving a benefit of $500 million.  However, what class members actually received was a $500 coupon towards the purchase of a new Ford vehicle.  Only 148 of those were ever redeemed for a total value of $74,000.  That’s right -- $25 million for the lawyers although the class members actually received $74,000.

But it gets worse.  Take the infamous Bank of Boston class action.  In that case, class members had their accounts credited between $2.19 and $8.76 as a result of the settlement, but also had their accounts debited with a “miscellaneous deduction” of up to $91 -- to cover the costs of the settlement, i.e., plaintiffs’ and defendants’ attorneys’ fees and litigation costs.  For this so-called “benefit” to class members, class counsel received $8.5 million in attorneys’ fees.

It's all about focus.  Class action lawyers don't want the public to focus on the negative aspects of class action settlements -- the $91 the lawsuit is costing you.  All class action settlements focus on the benefits, however meager, but never disclose the true costs to class members and consumers generally.

Why do the lawyers get so much when their clients get so little? In the words of Federal Judge William G.  Young, “simply put, the class action vehicle is broken.” Unfortunately, the vehicle works well for the people who run it -- lawyers -- and the people who could fix it -- judges and legislators.  The injured class members who are supposed to be the primary focus of these cases have become its primary victims.  The plaintiffs’ lawyers are happy because they are getting overpaid -- massively; the defendants’ lawyers and the experts (hired by both sides and an important part of the class action scheme) are happy because they’re getting well paid (if not overpaid); the defendants are happy because they are avoiding further costly legal proceedings with unknown outcomes.  And, last but not least, the judges are happy because they are getting a case cleared off their dockets.

Unfortunately, the criterion for good judging these days is how quickly cases are processed to conclusion, not how well reasoned the outcomes.  The judge gets the additional satisfaction of having made an important decision in a big case, thereby enhancing his or her self-importance and reputation.  Some class members may even be happy -- at least those few who actually read the notice and redeemed their coupons.  (Although is getting a $500 coupon towards the purchase of a $25,000 car really something to gloat about?)  Even some class members who didn’t redeem their coupons may be happy because they assume that a bad corporation has been punished for some actual or alleged misdeed.  But we as a society should not be happy because money (we’re talking hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars) that could be going to a better use becomes nothing more than slop for thousands of lawyers feeding at the class action trough.

What’s wrong with the class action system?  Why does it put lawyers’ interests first, the public's interest last, and class members’ interests next to last?

 

FYI:
Broken down, class actions means only the Lawyers get rich and the plaintiff gets as close to $0 as possible.

If its just chump change (usually the case,as you rightfully pointed out) no proof or documentation required, just name and addy,
so anyone and his brother can join many of these current class actions which inevitably thins out the available funds...

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/open-lawsuit-settlements/

i got reminded of it when outta the blue,i got a $30 check in mail from one (of many) i musta
filled out like a year ago. (Toms Toothpaste).
free money for cost of postage stamp and/or a few mouse clix.
 id join the cryptsy one but thankfully i managed to get most of my funds out via dogecoin just before the ship sank.
if you lost your shirt as many did, the class action is probably not gonna do much for you.

First of all, yes I have been part of a Class Action lawsuit against Bristol Myers Squibb for a medication that put me in the hospital....  Lawyers got the most $$.  I got $8K -- a fraction of what the ordeal truly cost me....

Second -- The GAWsuit lawyers have to win the case
Third -- they have to locate pilfered funds
Fourth, they have to get their hands on funds & get court orders, which probably mean squat "offshore."

[romeshomey]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/corrupt-agent-who-investigated-silk-road-is-suspected-of-another-700k-heist/

[Fontas Returns]

Just alert got on  .

Vern running out of money or other  thing got so badly ,he want to shutdown that website  n start a new UI website + totally different form cryptsy . I got nothing  support msg  reply ( why they doing this lol )

Closing of Bitebi9 on 23rd.June coincided(no way by accident) with the putting rest of 3300 BTCs from selling allegedly stolen altcoins from Cryptsy to Bitcoin mixer - Bitmixer.io.Series of transactions were conducted on 21st,22 and 23rd.June and all of them to Bitmixer.io. Soon after series of huge dumps occured on Huobi and OKCoin.

Now there are no slightest doubt that Vernon is behind alleged hack.He sold all of his Bitcoins except 11825 BTCs taken on 29.July 2014.


Wallet with BTCs obtained from selling altcoins :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337

So where's the money? Paul closed bitebe, he should have about $2 M worth orf RMB if dumped that much on the chinese exchanges, how could he get that much rmb  without a paper trail leading right to him? and get it out of china?

[Hippie Tech]

Just alert got on  .

Vern running out of money or other  thing got so badly ,he want to shutdown that website  n start a new UI website + totally different form cryptsy . I got nothing  support msg  reply ( why they doing this lol )

Closing of Bitebi9 on 23rd.June coincided(no way by accident) with the putting rest of 3300 BTCs from selling allegedly stolen altcoins from Cryptsy to Bitcoin mixer - Bitmixer.io.Series of transactions were conducted on 21st,22 and 23rd.June and all of them to Bitmixer.io. Soon after series of huge dumps occured on Huobi and OKCoin.

Now there are no slightest doubt that Vernon is behind alleged hack.He sold all of his Bitcoins except 11825 BTCs taken on 29.July 2014.


Wallet with BTCs obtained from selling altcoins :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337

So where's the money? Paul closed bitebe, he should have about $2 M worth orf RMB if dumped that much on the chinese exchanges, how could he get that much rmb  without a paper trail leading right to him? and get it out of china?

Show me proof that he is, or ever was, in China. And don't give me any of that WHOis info crap. lol

Do you honestly believe that the Chinese government would allow some rando ex military (and a known con artist and thief) to just waltz in and set up shop ?