Flat Earth

[Coffee_Lord]

Regarding the question: how does #teamflat explain GPS satellites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave

"In radio communication, skywave or skip refers to the propagation of radio waves reflected or refracted back toward Earth from the ionosphere, an electrically charged layer of the upper atmosphere. Since it is not limited by the curvature of the Earth, skywave propagation can be used to communicate beyond the horizon, at intercontinental distances."

So, you beam a radio signal towards the ionosphere/dome from a ground station dish. The signal reaches the ionosphere/dome and it bounces back down to Earth from the sky. This would make it seem like the signal originated from a satellite, but in fact it originated on the ground.

And anyway you don't need satellites to determine "GPS" location. You just need to be within range of cell towers and triangulation math will do the rest. This would work basically the same on a flat Earth or a globe Earth.

#teamglobe should probably reconsider using GPS as evidence of a globe earth. Feel free to correct me.

Geo-location from Cell towers assumes you are simply at ground level wherever it determines you to be.
GPS is available and functioning regardless of weather and location. GPS works in the middle of the ocean, hundreds or thousands of miles from any tower.
And of course GPS IS OPEN SOURCE. You can design and build your OWN RECEIVER to take advantage of it. You can test your ideas for yourself.

Okay, disregard the cell tower point, because that confused my main point.

My main point is that it is possible to have a navigation system that is nearly identical to GPS without using satellites at all. All you need is a network of powerful land-based radio transmitters at various points on the Earth. Not only that, but because the signals are bounced off the ionosphere, you could make it SEEM as if the signals were coming from satellites in the sky.

Loran-C is a real-world example. It was basically GPS but without satellites. And it worked in the middle of the ocean...

Since these are military technologies, they have no obligation to tell the public how the system really works. In fact, it would be wise for the military to concoct a story like 'something something satellites" instead of reveal the true nature of it all.

[Astargath]

Regarding the question: how does #teamflat explain GPS satellites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave

"In radio communication, skywave or skip refers to the propagation of radio waves reflected or refracted back toward Earth from the ionosphere, an electrically charged layer of the upper atmosphere. Since it is not limited by the curvature of the Earth, skywave propagation can be used to communicate beyond the horizon, at intercontinental distances."

So, you beam a radio signal towards the ionosphere/dome from a ground station dish. The signal reaches the ionosphere/dome and it bounces back down to Earth from the sky. This would make it seem like the signal originated from a satellite, but in fact it originated on the ground.

And anyway you don't need satellites to determine "GPS" location. You just need to be within range of cell towers and triangulation math will do the rest. This would work basically the same on a flat Earth or a globe Earth.

#teamglobe should probably reconsider using GPS as evidence of a globe earth. Feel free to correct me.

Geo-location from Cell towers assumes you are simply at ground level wherever it determines you to be.
GPS is available and functioning regardless of weather and location. GPS works in the middle of the ocean, hundreds or thousands of miles from any tower.
And of course GPS IS OPEN SOURCE. You can design and build your OWN RECEIVER to take advantage of it. You can test your ideas for yourself.

Okay, disregard the cell tower point, because that confused my main point.

My main point is that it is possible to have a navigation system that is nearly identical to GPS without using satellites at all. All you need is a network of powerful land-based radio transmitters at various points on the Earth. Not only that, but because the signals are bounced off the ionosphere, you could make it SEEM as if the signals were coming from satellites in the sky.

Loran-C is a real-world example. It was basically GPS but without satellites. And it worked in the middle of the ocean...

Since these are military technologies, they have no obligation to tell the public how the system really works. In fact, it would be wise for the military to concoct a story like 'something something satellites" instead of reveal the true nature of it all.

So they would make  up something much more complex and hard (satellites) to hide how their actual system works? You see how that makes no sense right?

[nomad13666]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fake+satellites+GPS

PS; Kiss my ass, Asstargoof You are a scatterbrained knob. See also: Fuck off.

[serbad]

Regarding the question: how does #teamflat explain GPS satellites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave

"In radio communication, skywave or skip refers to the propagation of radio waves reflected or refracted back toward Earth from the ionosphere, an electrically charged layer of the upper atmosphere. Since it is not limited by the curvature of the Earth, skywave propagation can be used to communicate beyond the horizon, at intercontinental distances."

So, you beam a radio signal towards the ionosphere/dome from a ground station dish. The signal reaches the ionosphere/dome and it bounces back down to Earth from the sky. This would make it seem like the signal originated from a satellite, but in fact it originated on the ground.

And anyway you don't need satellites to determine "GPS" location. You just need to be within range of cell towers and triangulation math will do the rest. This would work basically the same on a flat Earth or a globe Earth.

#teamglobe should probably reconsider using GPS as evidence of a globe earth. Feel free to correct me.

Geo-location from Cell towers assumes you are simply at ground level wherever it determines you to be.
GPS is available and functioning regardless of weather and location. GPS works in the middle of the ocean, hundreds or thousands of miles from any tower.
And of course GPS IS OPEN SOURCE. You can design and build your OWN RECEIVER to take advantage of it. You can test your ideas for yourself.

Okay, disregard the cell tower point, because that confused my main point.

My main point is that it is possible to have a navigation system that is nearly identical to GPS without using satellites at all. All you need is a network of powerful land-based radio transmitters at various points on the Earth. Not only that, but because the signals are bounced off the ionosphere, you could make it SEEM as if the signals were coming from satellites in the sky.

Loran-C is a real-world example. It was basically GPS but without satellites. And it worked in the middle of the ocean...

Since these are military technologies, they have no obligation to tell the public how the system really works. In fact, it would be wise for the military to concoct a story like 'something something satellites" instead of reveal the true nature of it all.

So they would make  up something much more complex and hard (satellites) to hide how their actual system works? You see how that makes no sense right?

The temperature of the orbiting Space Station's Sun-facing side would soar to 250 degrees F (121 C), while thermometers on the dark side would plunge to minus 250 degrees F (-157 C).20 Mar 2001

In the model you use you this is stated. But you must understand that nothing can operate with such extreme temperature swings. It would fuck up big time...space shuttles satellites all fake. You are living in a Fantasy world....LOOK AT THE FIGURES..

[nomad13666]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcs9V798BMA



RESEARCH FLAT EARTH
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22

[Coffee_Lord]

So they would make  up something much more complex and hard (satellites) to hide how their actual system works? You see how that makes no sense right?

Yes, they would. Making up a complex system (satellites) doesn't involve actually making a complex system.

I think you are actually asking, what would be the motive, right?

Well, that's where #teamflat comes in and asks some tough questions. If there is an agenda to hide the fact that there is an impenetrable dome just above the sky (and space isn't what we've been told), then satellites are the perfect ruse. They seemingly 'confirm' the globe Earth 24/7, and they also add to the narrative that we've really been to the moon.

Propaganda has been used this way for a long time. Plus, the idea of satellites watching your every move right above your head is a potent psychological mechanism of control. See: panopticon.

When you ask "why fake satellites?" there are several plausible theories like the above.

[Coffee_Lord]

On the other hand the flat Earth meme could all be marketing for when private space travel takes off. I really hope it's not marketing.

[Coffee_Lord]

The Earth is flat, and surrounded by an ice-wall, guarded by a shadowy cabal of people pledged to protect humans from tampering with the glass dome.

I know this, because, reasons.

You would make a terrible Flat Earther. At least have a sense of humor.

[Coffee_Lord]

The people demand more memes.

[Astargath]

Regarding the question: how does #teamflat explain GPS satellites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave

"In radio communication, skywave or skip refers to the propagation of radio waves reflected or refracted back toward Earth from the ionosphere, an electrically charged layer of the upper atmosphere. Since it is not limited by the curvature of the Earth, skywave propagation can be used to communicate beyond the horizon, at intercontinental distances."

So, you beam a radio signal towards the ionosphere/dome from a ground station dish. The signal reaches the ionosphere/dome and it bounces back down to Earth from the sky. This would make it seem like the signal originated from a satellite, but in fact it originated on the ground.

And anyway you don't need satellites to determine "GPS" location. You just need to be within range of cell towers and triangulation math will do the rest. This would work basically the same on a flat Earth or a globe Earth.

#teamglobe should probably reconsider using GPS as evidence of a globe earth. Feel free to correct me.

Geo-location from Cell towers assumes you are simply at ground level wherever it determines you to be.
GPS is available and functioning regardless of weather and location. GPS works in the middle of the ocean, hundreds or thousands of miles from any tower.
And of course GPS IS OPEN SOURCE. You can design and build your OWN RECEIVER to take advantage of it. You can test your ideas for yourself.

Okay, disregard the cell tower point, because that confused my main point.

My main point is that it is possible to have a navigation system that is nearly identical to GPS without using satellites at all. All you need is a network of powerful land-based radio transmitters at various points on the Earth. Not only that, but because the signals are bounced off the ionosphere, you could make it SEEM as if the signals were coming from satellites in the sky.

Loran-C is a real-world example. It was basically GPS but without satellites. And it worked in the middle of the ocean...

Since these are military technologies, they have no obligation to tell the public how the system really works. In fact, it would be wise for the military to concoct a story like 'something something satellites" instead of reveal the true nature of it all.

So they would make  up something much more complex and hard (satellites) to hide how their actual system works? You see how that makes no sense right?

The temperature of the orbiting Space Station's Sun-facing side would soar to 250 degrees F (121 C), while thermometers on the dark side would plunge to minus 250 degrees F (-157 C).20 Mar 2001

In the model you use you this is stated. But you must understand that nothing can operate with such extreme temperature swings. It would fuck up big time...space shuttles satellites all fake. You are living in a Fantasy world....LOOK AT THE FIGURES..

Without thermal controls, the temperature of the orbiting Space Station's Sun-facing side would soar to 250 degrees F (121 C), while thermometers on the dark side would plunge to minus 250 degrees F (-157 C). There might be a comfortable spot somewhere in the middle of the Station, but searching for it wouldn't be much fun!

Fortunately for the crew and all the Station's hardware, the ISS is designed and built with thermal balance in mind -- and it is equipped with a thermal control system that keeps the astronauts in their orbiting home cool and comfortable.

Did you just quote that paragraph without the next one on purpose?

[BuckNaked]

Nancy: "I feel faint. The whole world is spinning."
Nick Danger: "Why, that's lucky for us, Nancy.  If it were flat, all the Chinese would fall off."
Nancy: "Oooohhhhh!"
Nick Danger: "Why, she's no fun. She fell right over."

[nomad13666]

The Earth is flat, and surrounded by an ice-wall, guarded by a shadowy cabal of people pledged to protect humans from tampering with the glass dome.

I know this, because, reasons.

You would make a terrible Flat Earther. At least have a sense of humor.

sHe's not half the man sHe used to be.

 

[Vod]

Nomind does not believe in a round earth because he has never seen it with his own eyes.

He may have seen lots of pictures, but never actually witnessed it himself, so he doesn't believe it.

So question Nomind - where did you come from if you don't believe in vaginas?

[notbatman]

^^^ Check it out, we got Vod bending over backwards to defend the biggest scam on Earth!

[Astargath]

So they would make  up something much more complex and hard (satellites) to hide how their actual system works? You see how that makes no sense right?

Yes, they would. Making up a complex system (satellites) doesn't involve actually making a complex system.

I think you are actually asking, what would be the motive, right?

Well, that's where #teamflat comes in and asks some tough questions. If there is an agenda to hide the fact that there is an impenetrable dome just above the sky (and space isn't what we've been told), then satellites are the perfect ruse. They seemingly 'confirm' the globe Earth 24/7, and they also add to the narrative that we've really been to the moon.

Propaganda has been used this way for a long time. Plus, the idea of satellites watching your every move right above your head is a potent psychological mechanism of control. See: panopticon.

When you ask "why fake satellites?" there are several plausible theories like the above.

Again nonsense and 0 proof. The agenda would be to actually make us believe there is an impenetrable dome above the sky so we can never leave not the other way around

[nomad13666]

[nomad13666]

The agenda would be to actually make us believe there is an impenetrable dome above the sky so we can never leave not the other way around

The actual "agenda" is to make you believe that we are not in an enclosed system.

They are setting you up for the biggest deception yet to come: a fake alien invasion.

So, yeah; keep believing in the fake "outer space", you derelict fucking knob.

[Astargath]

The agenda would be to actually make us believe there is an impenetrable dome above the sky so we can never leave not the other way around

The actual "agenda" is to make you believe that we are not in an enclosed system.

They are setting you up for the biggest deception yet to come: a fake alien invasion.

So, yeah; keep believing in the fake "outer space", you derelict fucking knob.

What is the point of making me not believe that we are in an enclosed system? That would only make us want to explore more and it wouldn't take much before everyone discovers the ''dome''

[nomad13666]

The agenda would be to actually make us believe there is an impenetrable dome above the sky so we can never leave not the other way around

The actual "agenda" is to make you believe that we are not in an enclosed system.

They are setting you up for the biggest deception yet to come: a fake alien invasion.

So, yeah; keep believing in the fake "outer space", you derelict fucking knob.

What is the point of making me not believe that we are in an enclosed system? That would only make us want to explore more and it wouldn't take much before everyone discovers the ''dome''

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22+project+blue+beam+fake+aliens

[Astargath]

The agenda would be to actually make us believe there is an impenetrable dome above the sky so we can never leave not the other way around

The actual "agenda" is to make you believe that we are not in an enclosed system.

They are setting you up for the biggest deception yet to come: a fake alien invasion.

So, yeah; keep believing in the fake "outer space", you derelict fucking knob.

What is the point of making me not believe that we are in an enclosed system? That would only make us want to explore more and it wouldn't take much before everyone discovers the ''dome''

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22+project+blue+beam+fake+aliens

You know, even if that was true, it still makes no sense to make us believe the earth is round. They could do the project blue beam even if we didn't believe in a round earth. So I don't really see how anything of what you say makes any sense. Do you?