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September 02, 2018, 03:18:17 PM
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There's a Flat Earth YouTube documentary out there called "No Forests on Flat Earth". In this video the producer makes the claim that the "Devils Tower" and other mountainous plateaus are tree stumps cut down by an unknown evil entity. The video goes on to try and discredit the creation of fossils and claims the so-called tree stumps and all fossils were silicon life forms.

When I first encountered this video it introduced me to the idea of titans (all-be-it trees), an interesting possibility. I had always thought of giants as mythical men of larger stature say, fifty feet tall for example not "titanic" men two miles tall. Something wasn't right however and I'm not the only one who felt the video was onto something but missed the mark.

Now enter "mudfossils" created by water flooding the entire earth then encasing everything in mud after the water receded. The "DT" and all mountains, stones and rocks are now explained simply and flawlessly. The "DT" in light of the "mudfossil" revelation appears to be the foot of a giant man. It's really unfortunate the above video leads viewers astray after introducing them to a new concept.

Here's a video response:

   WHY DEVILS TOWER IS A FOOT -- https://youtu.be/5WzORhE98Ls




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   Take another look at the rocks out back: https://youtu.be/VNSYcNJ74LE
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September 03, 2018, 10:02:43 PM
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The Defeat of Satan

[7]And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison [8]and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. [9]And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down out of heaven from God and consumed them, [10]and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

-- Revelation 20 ESV


Yup, the Bible says Flat Earth.

Meanwhile, flat earther films satellite as it passes in front of the moon  Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PTXkYFRsSE

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September 04, 2018, 02:14:53 AM
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lol it is 2018 and and some people are saying earth is flat..i havent heard something that foolish before  Grin

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September 04, 2018, 04:28:21 PM
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erastothenes calculated it 2k years ago using the bottom of 2 wells, however 2 wells are not enough. The reason the 2 shadow solution can give varying results (and work for both round and flat models) is because the angle of the light can be explained by a closer source depending on the shape of the surface.

The best way to picture it is to imagine shadow-1 is on the equator during the equinox. shadow-2 is some distance north of shadow-1. At Shadow-1 the light is coming down at 90° to the ground, so there's no shadow, no calculations needed, the line goes right from the shadow to the sun. nice n easy. Shadow-2 you get a right angle triangle. The hypotenuse of that triangle is the direction of the sunlight.

So if Earth is flat, that hypotenuse line from shadow-2 will cross with the verticle line from shadow-1. If the sun is far away, the hypotenuse from 2 and line from 1 will essentially be parallel... which is how the greeks did the calculation.

It's like triangulating. If you only have 2 detectors you will get a line of possible locations of the source. When you had the 3rd detector you can pinpoint where on that line the source is, triangulating it. It's not the same math, but the same idea works for calculating the curve of the Earth. You get a line of possible sun locations depending on how concave/flat/convex the Earth's surface is, adding a 3rd shadow to the experiment allows you to triangulate where on that line the sun really is... and it's not close, it's far.

Rip flat earth, again.
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September 05, 2018, 12:46:05 AM
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^^^ LOL, triangulation involves using two points to calculate a third.

A few relevant points:

-  If you use a sextant and measure the distance to the Sun it's about 3,000 miles high and 32 miles wide.

-  There's no proof Eratosthenes was a real person and his experiment relies on making multiple assumptions. He's most likely a fictional character created by the ((Jesuits)) as a tool to spread globalist propaganda. His experiment assumes the Sun is millions of miles away, assumes that the Sun's rays strike the Earth in parallel, and assumes the story of the light down the well at noon in an adjacent city is true. This is not even science.

-  Adding a third point to the experiment doesn't change anything other than increasing its resolution; a small close Sun over a flat plain still works the same.



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September 05, 2018, 10:06:17 AM
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^^^ LOL, triangulation involves using two points to calculate a third.

A few relevant points:

-  If you use a sextant and measure the distance to the Sun it's about 3,000 miles high and 32 miles wide.

-  There's no proof Eratosthenes was a real person and his experiment relies on making multiple assumptions. He's most likely a fictional character created by the ((Jesuits)) as a tool to spread globalist propaganda. His experiment assumes the Sun is millions of miles away, assumes that the Sun's rays strike the Earth in parallel, and assumes the story of the light down the well at noon in an adjacent city is true. This is not even science.

-  Adding a third point to the experiment doesn't change anything other than increasing its resolution; a small close Sun over a flat plain still works the same.





Doesn't matter whether you beloeve eratosthenes or not, with 3 wells, not sticks, your flat earth model simply doesn't work, ever, it's fairly easy to understand lol
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September 05, 2018, 10:48:00 AM
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^^^ Then you should have no problem proving your claim, instead you're asking the reader to have faith in some secret math that proves the Earth is a globe. Is this the new strategy to keep me from debunking the baseless lies NASA keeps selling?

This is the mathematical equivalent of "it's photoshopped, but it has to be".
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September 05, 2018, 03:02:33 PM
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Eratosthenes; a fictional character whose proof for a globe is bullshit, but it has to be.
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September 05, 2018, 03:24:23 PM
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^^^ LOL, triangulation involves using two points to calculate a third.

A few relevant points:

-  If you use a sextant and measure the distance to the Sun it's about 3,000 miles high and 32 miles wide.

-  There's no proof Eratosthenes was a real person and his experiment relies on making multiple assumptions. He's most likely a fictional character created by the ((Jesuits)) as a tool to spread globalist propaganda. His experiment assumes the Sun is millions of miles away, assumes that the Sun's rays strike the Earth in parallel, and assumes the story of the light down the well at noon in an adjacent city is true. This is not even science.

-  Adding a third point to the experiment doesn't change anything other than increasing its resolution; a small close Sun over a flat plain still works the same.







https://flatearth.ws/eratosthenes

Stop believing non sense.

Also: https://takethisskepticalblog.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/how-to-disprove-the-flat-earth/
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September 05, 2018, 05:27:11 PM
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^^^ Just kill yourself now:





Mathematical proof that modifying the experiment by adding a 3rd well (or stick) at Luxor doesn't change anything.
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September 05, 2018, 07:48:04 PM
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^^^ Just kill yourself now:





Mathematical proof that modifying the experiment by adding a 3rd well (or stick) at Luxor doesn't change anything.

Modern science places the earth’s radius at 3,959 miles, which gives a pole to pole circumference of about 24,875 miles. Dividing by 360, we find that one degree of arc should be about 69.1 miles on the earth’s surface. That is why lines of latitude are about 69.1 apart. So on a globe for every 69.1 miles or one degree of latitude you move north or south of the point the sun is directly overhead, the angle of the shadow in that location would increase by one degree. If Eratosthenes was correct, the angle of his shadow must have been equal to Alexandria’s latitude north of Syene, because that would be the angle that Alexandria is leaning away from Syene due to the curvature of the earth. If three other astronomers had performed the experiment on the same day at 20 degrees, 40 degrees, and 60 degrees north of the Tropic of Cancer, they would each respectively measure a shadow angle of 20 degrees, 40 degrees, and 60 degrees, and all would arrive at a circumference of 24,875 miles. The beauty of Eratosthenes’ experiment is that you can repeat it anywhere on earth, on any day of the year, and arrive at the same circumference. This is where the flat earth model runs into problems.



In the flat earth model, as a consequence of geometry, as your distance from the point the sun is directly overhead increases, the distance between each successive degree of shadow will also increase exponentially. For example, assume the sun is giving off a 45 degree shadow at 45 degrees north, as depicted in this flat earther meme. If the earth were flat, that would mean that the sun is, more precisely, 3,110 miles high. In that case, it would be 1,132 miles to the 20 degree shadow, 1,478 miles between the 20 and 40 degree shadows, and a whopping 2,777 miles between the 40 and 60 degree shadows. Someone performing Eratosthenes’ experiment at 20 degrees north of the Tropic of Cancer would arrive at a circumference of 20,376 miles, someone at 40 degrees north would get 23,486 miles, and someone at 60 degrees north would get 32,320 miles.

Flat earthers use the Azimuthal Equidistant Projection map, which shows all points at an undistorted distance and direction from the center. Lines of latitude on the flat earth map have flat earth mapthe same spacing as those on the globe: 69.1 miles per degree. It is for this reason that the angle of the shadow can only be equal to the degrees of latitude between you and the point the sun is directly overhead in one location. Everywhere south of that point the shadow angle would be greater than the latitude and everywhere north of that point the shadow angle would be less than the latitude. If the sun were 3,110 miles above the flat earth, the 20 degree shadow would be 16.4 degrees north, the 40 degree shadow 37.8 degrees north, and the 60 degree shadow 78 degrees north. Only at 45 degrees north would the latitude and the angle of the shadow actually match as they would everywhere on the globe and only there would someone arrive at a circumference of 24,875 miles. You can change the height of the sun all you like, the latitude and angle will only be the same in one location. Even then, it is only a coincidence due to the random height of the sun, not a direct function of latitude as it is on the globe.

To be sure, if each of our astronomers were to measure a shadow angle corresponding to their latitude, as is to be expected on the globe, and you were still assuming a flat earth model, that would require that from 20 degrees north the sun be 3,797 miles high above the flat earth, at 40 degrees north 3,294 miles high, and at 60 degrees north 2,393 miles high. An impossibility. The only possible solution would be to distort the flat earth map beyond recognition by staggering the lines of latitude, but even then it would only be correct for a single day, as the sun moves to a different latitude each day and the model would again become increasingly wrong.
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September 05, 2018, 08:06:14 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G02wKufX3nw
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September 06, 2018, 01:44:03 AM
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Modern science places the earth’s radius at 3,959 miles, ...

Can you be more specific, "modern science" is a little bit vague? You're literally pulling a number out of your ass and calling it science.
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September 06, 2018, 03:45:01 AM
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You're literally pulling a number out of your ass and calling it science.

I don't think you know what "literally" means, like everything else..  Sad

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September 06, 2018, 09:23:47 AM
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Modern science places the earth’s radius at 3,959 miles, ...

Can you be more specific, "modern science" is a little bit vague? You're literally pulling a number out of your ass and calling it science.

Forget about that part if it bothers you, read below the image to understand how ridiculous your model is.
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September 06, 2018, 11:36:03 AM
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In my long been proven that the Earth is round, or how to correctly say the ellipse!
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September 06, 2018, 12:18:48 PM
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Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.
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September 06, 2018, 02:33:26 PM
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Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.


Earth's magnetic north pole is at the center of a circular plane and its magnetic south pole at the circumference. The compass always points towards the center of the plane thus if you travel east or west you will go in a circle.



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September 06, 2018, 05:23:05 PM
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The earth is only flat to those who don't actually know how to Google search. Cheesy Cheesy
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September 07, 2018, 12:45:51 AM
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I've seen a couple of jackasses out there on various media platforms (reddit) claiming they can prove the Earth is a spinning globe. The following are the best arguments they can muster, and they're weak arguments countered by a mountain of evidence the Earth is flat and motionless.



1. Claiming to Measure the theoretical rotation of the Earth:

   Pros: They say a LASER or MEMS gyroscope can measure the rotation and provide a subtle 23 hour & 56 min measurement as proof.

   Cons: The Michelson & Morley experiment failed to detect the motion of the Earth through the static aether (Sagnac, D&P) however, what they did detect was a small aether drift with a 23 hour & 56 min cycle. This aether drift is too small to account for the theorized rotation of the Earth but, it does explain the experimental results from the LASER and MEMS gyroscopes.



2. Claiming to observe the effects of a theoretical curvature of the Earth's surface:

   Pros: They say the 15° per hour motion of the Sun observed from any point on the surface is proof of a globe.

   Cons: The argument is only valid for disproving strawman Flat Earth models. Models involving a holographic Sun projected off of a mirrored dome (biblical firmament) explain the motion of the Sun with great precision.



There you have it, crème de la reddit hive-mind circle-jerk.
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