ISIS impregnates 9-year-old girl

[BitMos]

I find religion to be a set of stagnant prediction market that have evolved to the consensus that there is a god of one form or another. Problem is the prediction market wasnt updated as people changed their minds based on scientific facts and evolution so people were forced to accept old truths of life which may have been proven false. Onething most of them agree on that can neve be proven wrong is the will to do good and how it will bring good things to you.

it will be resisted by all necessary means, including an alliance with the first One.

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[waterpile]

god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

There are many risks when using chemicals..

[sidhujag]

I find religion to be a set of stagnant prediction market that have evolved to the consensus that there is a god of one form or another. Problem is the prediction market wasnt updated as people changed their minds based on scientific facts and evolution so people were forced to accept old truths of life which may have been proven false. Onething most of them agree on that can neve be proven wrong is the will to do good and how it will bring good things to you.

it will be resisted by all necessary means, including an alliance with the first One.

History doesnt say so.. See hundreds of religious leaders who all claim they are the truth.

[Spendulus]

god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

Because it is not precision munitions, quite the opposite.

[bryant.coleman]

god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

There are many risks when using chemicals..

Yes. For example, the United States used chemical weapons against the Viet Cong 4 decades ago, and the people there are still suffering from its consequences. In addition to the countless deaths and defects among the human population, the wild life and natural vegetation was also devastated in areas where the chemicals were used.

[panju1]

god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

There are many risks when using chemicals..

Yes. For example, the United States used chemical weapons against the Viet Cong 4 decades ago, and the people there are still suffering from its consequences. In addition to the countless deaths and defects among the human population, the wild life and natural vegetation was also devastated in areas where the chemicals were used.

It will also unite people behind the ISIS.
The people who use chemical weapons will be seen (and rightfully so) as the real enemy.

[bryant.coleman]

It will also unite people behind the ISIS.
The people who use chemical weapons will be seen (and rightfully so) as the real enemy.

Contrary to the popular belief, ISIS enjoys a lot of support in Iraq, especially from the Sunni Arabs. The US-backed Iraqi central government heavily discriminated the Sunnis for more than a decade, and it is one of the primary reasons behind the creation of ISIS. I would say that a majority of the Sunni Arabs in Iraq supports the ISIS.

[Aggressor66]

What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!

[Muhammed Zakir]

What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!

According to news, she is in Germany(IIRC) atm and doctors are waiting for her to give a birth. I still don't know whether she is physically and/or mentally enough to give a birth and also what will happen to child.

Edit: Relevant post.

Others might have also traumatized. This also tells they aren't doing abortion but waiting for her to give a birth. I hope she has physical and mental strength for this and..., what will happen to the baby?

The young girl was one of over 200 Yazidi women and children to be released this week after spending eight months captive in the hands of the extremists, according to the Canadian newspaper.

Daoud claimed that many of the women and young girls who were set free by ISIS would be shamed when reunited with their families, due to suspicions that they had been defiled by the militants.

“If they are married, their husbands won’t take them back if they are pregnant,” he said. “And it’s clear that the babies will never be accepted.”

“I don’t know what the future would be for their babies,” Daoud added. “The girls and women don’t want them. They have suffered so much they just want to forget.”

The 9-year-old girl has been transported by a Kurdish aid group to a medical charity in Germany, according to the Toronto Star.

She will be looked after there until her baby arrives.

[Aggressor66]

What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!

According to news, she is in Germany(IIRC) atm and doctors are waiting for her to give a birth. I still don't know whether she is physically and/or mentally enough to give a birth and also what will happen to child.

Edit: Relevant post.

Others might have also traumatized. This also tells they aren't doing abortion but waiting for her to give a birth. I hope she has physical and mental strength for this and..., what will happen to the baby?

The young girl was one of over 200 Yazidi women and children to be released this week after spending eight months captive in the hands of the extremists, according to the Canadian newspaper.

Daoud claimed that many of the women and young girls who were set free by ISIS would be shamed when reunited with their families, due to suspicions that they had been defiled by the militants.

“If they are married, their husbands won’t take them back if they are pregnant,” he said. “And it’s clear that the babies will never be accepted.”

“I don’t know what the future would be for their babies,” Daoud added. “The girls and women don’t want them. They have suffered so much they just want to forget.”

The 9-year-old girl has been transported by a Kurdish aid group to a medical charity in Germany, according to the Toronto Star.

She will be looked after there until her baby arrives.

Shocking that their communities & families would feel ashamed of them, they have suffered and need / deserve love and support not to be thrown on the scrapheap. The treatment of women, including how they are seen by Islam is just disgusting and beneath contempt.

Edit:

There is something seriously wrong with a society which condones such behavior . . . .How is it possible that young adolescent females are being seduced by such barbarism?

[Muhammed Zakir]

What I'd like to know is where is she and if she was able to get medical help?
A child of that age is physically unable to delver it vaginally. I truly hope someone stepped in and got help for her somehow otherwise she will probably die trying to deliver it alone!

According to news, she is in Germany(IIRC) atm and doctors are waiting for her to give a birth. I still don't know whether she is physically and/or mentally enough to give a birth and also what will happen to child.

Edit: Relevant post.

Others might have also traumatized. This also tells they aren't doing abortion but waiting for her to give a birth. I hope she has physical and mental strength for this and..., what will happen to the baby?

The young girl was one of over 200 Yazidi women and children to be released this week after spending eight months captive in the hands of the extremists, according to the Canadian newspaper.

Daoud claimed that many of the women and young girls who were set free by ISIS would be shamed when reunited with their families, due to suspicions that they had been defiled by the militants.

“If they are married, their husbands won’t take them back if they are pregnant,” he said. “And it’s clear that the babies will never be accepted.”

“I don’t know what the future would be for their babies,” Daoud added. “The girls and women don’t want them. They have suffered so much they just want to forget.”

The 9-year-old girl has been transported by a Kurdish aid group to a medical charity in Germany, according to the Toronto Star.

She will be looked after there until her baby arrives.

Shocking that their communities & families would feel ashamed of them, they have suffered and need / deserve love and support not to be thrown on the scrapheap. The treatment of women, including how they are seen by Islam is just disgusting and beneath contempt.

Edit:

There is something seriously wrong with a society which condones such behavior . . . .How is it possible that young adolescent females are being seduced by such barbarism?

It's not Islam who view like that, it is bad people who do.

I think in tribal areas they value prejudices more than other things.

[Aggressor66]

Put it this way, nobody got butt-hurt when we killed the Nazis. Slaughtering the SS was a good thing. Why?
Because pure evil just needs to be purged from the system.

And with that note in mind, I believe ISIS needs to be purged, today, not tomorrow but RIGHT NOW.

[bryant.coleman]

This is a part of the ISIS strategy. Make the non-Muslim girls (especially the Yazidis and Christians) pregnant by raping them, and then release them once it is not longer possible to perform the abortions. If I had nukes with me, I'd drop them in Riyadh and Doha to teach a lesson to those who support these barbarians.

[Muhammed Zakir]

This is a part of the ISIS strategy. Make the non-Muslim girls (especially the Yazidis and Christians) pregnant by raping them, and then release them once it is not longer possible to perform the abortions. If I had nukes with me, I'd drop them in Riyadh and Doha to teach a lesson to those who support these barbarians.

When reading your post, what came into my mind is:

• ISIS want to make problems in families. (Why?)
• Babies will not be taken care by mothers, so... ISIS takes them?!

[bryant.coleman]

When reading your post, what came into my mind is:

• ISIS want to make problems in families. (Why?)
• Babies will not be taken care by mothers, so... ISIS takes them?!

ISIS want non-Muslim women to give birth to Muslim children (whether it is voluntary, or by force). That explains it. Islamic extremists have always treated non-Muslim women as sub-human. ISIS is no exception to this rule.

[s1ng]

god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

There are many risks when using chemicals..

Yes. For example, the United States used chemical weapons against the Viet Cong 4 decades ago, and the people there are still suffering from its consequences. In addition to the countless deaths and defects among the human population, the wild life and natural vegetation was also devastated in areas where the chemicals were used.

It will also unite people behind the ISIS.
The people who use chemical weapons will be seen (and rightfully so) as the real enemy.

We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect

[grendel25]

This is is disgusting.  And the various rationales in this thread arguing one side or another is also disgusting.  This was a tragedy of evil corrupting innocence and justice will come to those deserving.  Such is the will of things incomprehensible to any of us.

[grendel25]

god, why can't anyone start a Horrible Chemical warfare against isis....

There are many risks when using chemicals..

Yes. For example, the United States used chemical weapons against the Viet Cong 4 decades ago, and the people there are still suffering from its consequences. In addition to the countless deaths and defects among the human population, the wild life and natural vegetation was also devastated in areas where the chemicals were used.

It will also unite people behind the ISIS.
The people who use chemical weapons will be seen (and rightfully so) as the real enemy.

We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect

You are correct.  Killing Bagdhadi (Calif for the current Caliphate) would end this.  The Calif is responsible for carrying out the current Caliphate and it is his responsibility to wage war in order to meet the prophetic expectations.  But once ISIS is extinguished, there is still many other evil sects do deal with: Boka Horam and Al-Shabbab for example.

[panju1]

We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect

Which planet are you from? Why do you think ISIS leaders will be bothered?
ISIS in its current form should vanish before atrocities like this end.

[Spendulus]

We just need find a leader of ISIS and put end of this.
Using something like chemical things or nuclear warfare will make more casualities. Except the goverment are gathering and agree to put this end although it will traumatized targerted nation (ex for long term : handicapped person ) * like nagasaki and hiroshima effect

Which planet are you from? Why do you think ISIS leaders will be bothered?
ISIS in its current form should vanish before atrocities like this end.

It is true that in many cases, when the primary leader of a high structured, rigid nation is executed, the entire structure falls apart.  Where that is true of ISIS I don't know.

One would think that many men joined ISIS thinking it was another Al Queda/radical Islam-for-the-greater-good sect, and are now appalled at the atrocities they are ordered to do and support.  Internal dissent/lack of morale would make their forces far less capable on the battlefields, but there still must be an opposing force to take advantage of those weaknesses.