ISIS impregnates 9-year-old girl

[BitMos]

Hillary has been designed lawyer of ISIS. values are converging...

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[Spendulus]

Hillary has been designed lawyer of ISIS. values are converging...

You sure about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSKeXpYtLiQ

Also, note that ISIS is not atrocity central but a JOKE for many in the Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx0Gu0PlNjI

[BitMos]

just as a quicky the people not finishing this monster inside the stomach of this kid are terrorist. purge and move on, no more damages.

when it comes to nuke the world they all are parading their knowledge,

when it comes to helping a child, they start to parade their morality and ethics...

logged.

[jaysabi]

This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.

[jaysabi]

If this can be reported why can't it be stopped?
Stupid idiots have nothing better to do then torcher children.
That poor baby.

Very good questions.
It seems that our politicians know just how to talk a lot, without taking any real actions to stop this tragedy and save this people, women and children.
ISIS is pure evil and I really hope that soon or later someone will stop them.

If I can say my personal opinion, regarding this fact:
If any government really want to stop their action or better all the isis members they can do it. The real reason is they do not want to stop ISIS.

Powers like USA, Russia or China can do this at any moment but it seems there is no real political will to do anything.
Shame on them.

Have you seen what is happening in Yemen, why saudi arabian government didn't take real action to stop the ISIS? Probably because it doesn't want. Why USA don't send military/soldiers to fight against ISIS?

This is overly simplistic. It's not a case of want, it's a case of practicality and public tolerance. Nobody wants ISIS to kill people, but we're already bombing them and the public simply will not tolerate another troop deployment to fight an ineffective guerrilla war. Every US soldier has a family, and that family and the US public in general does not want their people dropped into a desert to fight a group that has very little to do with us. It's the same for Russia and China as well, whom ISIS cannot threaten. It's different for Middle Eastern countries, where ISIS gains pose direct problems to local governments.

[Spendulus]

This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.

However, it just so happens that pedophiles (the ones that raped the girl in this case) would get their barbaric punishment while locked up in jail.  From the other inmates.

What could be better?

Really, stoning and burning to death is barbaric in the eyes of the audience.  These are intended to make the audience fear.

[jaysabi]

This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.

Really, stoning and burning to death is barbaric in the eyes of the audience.  These are intended to make the audience fear.

That's true, but there are some things we generally accept as universal. Even though we have the death penalty, the penalty is agreed to be death, not intentional agony. That's why death penalties that inflict pain aren't tolerated.

Also, every major religion uses the threat of eternal punishment in hell to scare people into behaving. Fear has never worked, whether it was temporary pain or when it was accepted to be eternal torment.

[Spendulus]

This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.

Really, stoning and burning to death is barbaric in the eyes of the audience.  These are intended to make the audience fear.

That's true, but there are some things we generally accept as universal. Even though we have the death penalty, the penalty is agreed to be death, not intentional agony. That's why death penalties that inflict pain aren't tolerated.

Also, every major religion uses the threat of eternal punishment in hell to scare people into behaving. Fear has never worked, whether it was temporary pain or when it was accepted to be eternal torment.

LOL, you should tell those arguments to ISIS.  They seem to think that fear works.

I disagree.  But it probably works to an extent in some cultures.

[Cryddit]

Also, every major religion uses the threat of eternal punishment in hell to scare people into behaving. Fear has never worked, whether it was temporary pain or when it was accepted to be eternal torment.

No, that whole afterlife thing is mainly just the death cults.  Christianity, Islam, and several others in history.

But Jews and Buddhists for example don't really have afterlife-centric beliefs.  If you ask a rabbi, he'll tell you "souls come from God and they return to God."  And there's not really even so much as speculation about whether there is an experiential afterlife and whether it is filled with suffering or glory.   

If you ask a Buddhist, then depending on what path of Buddhist, he'll either tell you the question is irrelevant, or tell you that we are to be reincarnated until we have no more to learn - and there isn't much in the way of any belief about what happens after that point; "Nirvana" is a concept, not a place anyone expects to experience.  What they expect to experience on achieving Nirvana - is Nothing.  Pure oblivion, a complete cessation of experience.  And there are lots of variations on that belief throughout the Eastern hemisphere. 

These are MAJOR religions, with millions, and sometimes billions, of followers.  They just happen not to be the kind of death cults that drive this sort of violence.

[bryant.coleman]

This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.

Do you need proof? Check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgujwijPwxo
http://www.damncoolpictures.com/2009/03/5-star-prison-in-austria.html

An inmate sunbathes on the deck of his bungalow on Bastoy:

[BitMos]

What is the difference with Epstein, and the 12 years old? he give her an after morning pill to clean his mess... not stupid... did billy did the same y. who else? to the camp where the works make free those doing it, not the receiving hand... (but don't worry it will mostly be automatized... the project move forward, and blueprint have to be tested). hc.

[sana54210]

ISIS impregnates 9-year-old girl

http://nypost.com/2015/04/11/isis-impregnates-9-year-old-girl/

<< A 9-year-old girl is pregnant after being raped by ISIS savages in Iraq, a report said.

"The abuse she has suffered left her mentally and physically traumatized", said Yousif Daoud, a Canadian-based aid worker who recently returned from the region. "This girl is so young she could die if she delivers a baby. Even cesarean section is dangerous."

At least 10 different men with the Islamic State were said to have sexually assaulted the child, the Toronto Star reported. >>

This is so wrong in all levels, the wrong things they do will not go un noticed and people should be ashamed to join the group and following their delusional leader who appears to be as psycho as they come.

[umair01]

What is the difference with Epstein, and the 12 years old? he give her an after morning pill to clean his mess... not stupid... did billy did the same y. who else? to the camp where the works make free those doing it, not the receiving hand... (but don't worry it will mostly be automatized... the project move forward, and blueprint have to be tested). hc.

I can't understand what you are saying, can you explain it more in a clear, readable and understandable way? Thanks.

[BitMos]

What is the difference with Epstein, and the 12 years old? he give her an after morning pill to clean his mess... not stupid... did billy did the same y. who else? to the camp where the works make free those doing it, not the receiving hand... (but don't worry it will mostly be automatized... the project move forward, and blueprint have to be tested). hc.

I can't understand what you are saying, can you explain it more in a clear, readable and understandable way? Thanks.

poor you, I didn't realize... sorry.

you don't know nothing ain't bad... look (understand that you will have to be active) :

https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&btnG=Search&q=dsk+under+age

https://www.google.com/search?q=epstein+under+age&btnG=Search&gbv=1

https://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+bill+lolita+express&btnG=Search&gbv=1

what's the difference? the clothes? the plans? the fact that the Will of an Individual was Breached? If you can get that, please present yourself to the next tagger available, you will be further processed thx.

[jaysabi]

This may be splitting hairs at this point, but what really is the difference between burning somebody to death and stoning them to death? Is it just a personal preference, or are you taking something else into account, because I consider them both barbaric forms of punishment.

Barbaric forms of punishment are required for crimes which are of barbaric nature. Simple jail terms, with access to 5-star food and video-game consoles will only encourage these sort of crimes. These people should be made to suffer.

Jail: A five-star retreat in the mind of bryant.coleman. Way to stay grounded in reality.

Do you need proof? Check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgujwijPwxo
http://www.damncoolpictures.com/2009/03/5-star-prison-in-austria.html

An inmate sunbathes on the deck of his bungalow on Bastoy:

So you came across a rehabilitation facility (as differentiated from a prison) in Austria- who has a much more progressive view of incarceration than the US to begin with, and for which no violent criminals would be housed in- and are representing all prison conditions to be like this. Is that the point you're making? Because that seems to be your point, that people who commit barbaric acts will wind up in a facility like this, so we better just brutalize them instead.

[bryant.coleman]

So you came across a rehabilitation facility (as differentiated from a prison) in Austria- who has a much more progressive view of incarceration than the US to begin with, and for which no violent criminals would be housed in- and are representing all prison conditions to be like this. Is that the point you're making? Because that seems to be your point, that people who commit barbaric acts will wind up in a facility like this, so we better just brutalize them instead.

Most of the prisoners in Bastoy (Norway) were convicted of violent offenses, such as murder or rape. I don't think it is a nice idea to provide such people with 5-star facilities inside the prison. If I had the power, then I'll ship them either to the White Swan or to the Black Dolphin in Russia.

[Cryddit]

You know what?  I don't mind a prison where people don't suffer so much. 

If you can keep them separate from the population they'd otherwise prey on, and not fuck them up so badly that they can never rejoin civilization again, I'd say you're doing your job.

The problem with treating prisoners badly is that you make them harder and nastier and more out-of-step with your civilian society than they were to start with.  You fuck them up so badly that releasing them doesn't work all that well. 

[jaysabi]

So you came across a rehabilitation facility (as differentiated from a prison) in Austria- who has a much more progressive view of incarceration than the US to begin with, and for which no violent criminals would be housed in- and are representing all prison conditions to be like this. Is that the point you're making? Because that seems to be your point, that people who commit barbaric acts will wind up in a facility like this, so we better just brutalize them instead.

Most of the prisoners in Bastoy (Norway) were convicted of violent offenses, such as murder or rape. I don't think it is a nice idea to provide such people with 5-star facilities inside the prison. If I had the power, then I'll ship them either to the White Swan or to the Black Dolphin in Russia.

I suppose it depends what the intent of prison is. If it's to reform people and have them be functioning members of society when they're released, I think Bastoy is shows some promise. If it's to punish people in harsh conditions during and after imprisonment so they are likely to return to crime, the US prison system is exemplary.

[Spendulus]

So you came across a rehabilitation facility (as differentiated from a prison) in Austria- who has a much more progressive view of incarceration than the US to begin with, and for which no violent criminals would be housed in- and are representing all prison conditions to be like this. Is that the point you're making? Because that seems to be your point, that people who commit barbaric acts will wind up in a facility like this, so we better just brutalize them instead.

Most of the prisoners in Bastoy (Norway) were convicted of violent offenses, such as murder or rape. I don't think it is a nice idea to provide such people with 5-star facilities inside the prison. If I had the power, then I'll ship them either to the White Swan or to the Black Dolphin in Russia.

I suppose it depends what the intent of prison is. If it's to reform people and have them be functioning members of society when they're released, I think Bastoy is shows some promise. If it's to punish people in harsh conditions during and after imprisonment so they are likely to return to crime, the US prison system is exemplary.

Naw.  There are many levels and styles of prison in the US, ranging from minimal confinement to single cell lockup.  There are many, many facilities for druggies which are more like drug rehab facilities than prison.  Etc. 

It's probably the luck of the draw though than any top down philosophical decision.  You sure wouldn't want to be in the state penn in one of the very poor states like Mississippi.

[jaysabi]

So you came across a rehabilitation facility (as differentiated from a prison) in Austria- who has a much more progressive view of incarceration than the US to begin with, and for which no violent criminals would be housed in- and are representing all prison conditions to be like this. Is that the point you're making? Because that seems to be your point, that people who commit barbaric acts will wind up in a facility like this, so we better just brutalize them instead.

Most of the prisoners in Bastoy (Norway) were convicted of violent offenses, such as murder or rape. I don't think it is a nice idea to provide such people with 5-star facilities inside the prison. If I had the power, then I'll ship them either to the White Swan or to the Black Dolphin in Russia.

I suppose it depends what the intent of prison is. If it's to reform people and have them be functioning members of society when they're released, I think Bastoy is shows some promise. If it's to punish people in harsh conditions during and after imprisonment so they are likely to return to crime, the US prison system is exemplary.

Naw.  There are many levels and styles of prison in the US, ranging from minimal confinement to single cell lockup.  There are many, many facilities for druggies which are more like drug rehab facilities than prison.  Etc.  

It's probably the luck of the draw though than any top down philosophical decision.  You sure wouldn't want to be in the state penn in one of the very poor states like Mississippi.

Are you disputing that the majority of prisons do not make rehabilitation their primary function? The war on drugs has proven to be the death of rehabilitative prisons as they are overcrowded past their ability to function in a rehabilitative manner, even when they're specifically built to be so. Here's a nice and short synopsis of the changing role of the US prison system: http://www.adpsr.org/home/prison_history.  Perhaps if the war on drugs were eliminated, there would be less stress on the system and it could return to a more rehabilitative role, but that would require a seismic political shift in the national landscape, especially by the republican party. I'm hopeful, but not expectant.