[Vote] Who did 911?

[Spendulus]

Flying saucer hit Pentagon, right? Watch videos in order.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzT0QnwtTE

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFqXbfv_yg




EDIT: I shouldn't show these! Once we all realize that 9/11 was an inside job, everybody will drop this topic, and it is so hard to find topics that are fun to blabber about.

thanks bud I REST MY CASE     MISSILE  just what i always thought
never seen that video in such slow motion
 i tried slowing it down on me ps3 in the past but not quite like that TOTAL PROOF a MISSILE  
plus why on earth would the FBI try and confiscate all the video evidence around the pentagon even the petrol stations video
if plane hit the pentagon then you would just show it to the american people not try cover it up
you would say
here is the video from the petrol station and here is the plane hitting the pentagon
the towers i knew blew up 97% sure    just a little thought thinking hmmm fire 3% fire

but i was 99% sure a plane never hit the pentagon
but after seeing that video i am 100% sure now no plane hit the pentagon

thanks bud  

You guys need to just use your brain a bit.  now where is the "missile?"  please do a screen clip and show us, because I did not see a "missile."  I saw a long metallic thing that was blurred, but pretty darn long.

Cruise missiles are quite small, you know.  About 10-15 feet long.  I am not aware of 100 foot long "missiles" that fly horizontal.

Oh, except airplanes used as missiles.  Oh yeah...

Exactly, but with an opposite sign. That "long metallic thing" is long because of the motion blur and trailing smoke. The object's height above grass is too low. Even if a plane was skidding on its belly towards the building, it would have occupied a significant part of the frame. In the video, it would hardly reach the top of the ground floor windows.

The videos above are just one piece in a large jigsaw of evidence that debunks the official theory.

Regarding Pentagon: They want us to believe that a trainee pilot, who according to his instructor, could barely handle a Cessna in straight and level flight, somehow performed an ideal descending spiral, which ended at Pentagon, skimmed above the ground, leaving the lamp posts on the approach unharmed, and slammed into the wall, leaving only a tiny hole, and some of the furniture inside intact (while two similar impacts allegedly brought down WTC, where nothing was left remaining from the buildings or furniture, save for the high-jackers' passports and a turbine from a wrong plane model).

Does not compute.

Here is some more (watch all 10 short parts):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czB_CWkqix4&list=PLWwb73xj88Z3bPFmJlse7T_JiW7wfWSOk&index=21
Complete film with Spanish subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQFQHKjH4t0&list=PLWwb73xj88Z3bPFmJlse7T_JiW7wfWSOk&index=29

And also this, doing extensive audio and video analysis from an armature video recording of what I can only call a demolition. Watch especially 43 minutes in and onwards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlIUGqai81k&list=PLWwb73xj88Z3bPFmJlse7T_JiW7wfWSOk&index=5

Earlier I asked for 911 conspiracy theories that "made sense."  I did this because the ones presented didn't really seem to.  Now why all these Youtube video links?  How about an actual engineering analysis?

How about something better than your saying "what I can only call a demolition?"  But since you said that, let me ask-

Why would any bad guy cook up a scheme to plant truly massive amounts of explosives of some totally mysterious type into buildings, then fly airplanes into buildings, AND THEN DETONATE THE EXPLOSIVES?

that just seems to me like it would have to involve hundreds of people and thousands would have known about it - it seems just impractical, impossible, improbable, and insane.

Not sure you will see my point of view here - but really, think about the matter of choosing an extremely complicated "solution" when much simpler "solutions" exist.

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[popcorn1]

Flying saucer hit Pentagon, right? Watch videos in order.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzT0QnwtTE

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFqXbfv_yg




EDIT: I shouldn't show these! Once we all realize that 9/11 was an inside job, everybody will drop this topic, and it is so hard to find topics that are fun to blabber about.

thanks bud I REST MY CASE     MISSILE  just what i always thought
never seen that video in such slow motion
 i tried slowing it down on me ps3 in the past but not quite like that TOTAL PROOF a MISSILE  
plus why on earth would the FBI try and confiscate all the video evidence around the pentagon even the petrol stations video
if plane hit the pentagon then you would just show it to the american people not try cover it up
you would say
here is the video from the petrol station and here is the plane hitting the pentagon
the towers i knew blew up 97% sure    just a little thought thinking hmmm fire 3% fire

but i was 99% sure a plane never hit the pentagon
but after seeing that video i am 100% sure now no plane hit the pentagon

thanks bud  

You guys need to just use your brain a bit.  now where is the "missile?"  please do a screen clip and show us, because I did not see a "missile."  I saw a long metallic thing that was blurred, but pretty darn long.

Cruise missiles are quite small, you know.  About 10-15 feet long.  I am not aware of 100 foot long "missiles" that fly horizontal.

Oh, except airplanes used as missiles.  Oh yeah...

Exactly, but with an opposite sign. That "long metallic thing" is long because of the motion blur and trailing smoke. The object's height above grass is too low. Even if a plane was skidding on its belly towards the building, it would have occupied a significant part of the frame. In the video, it would hardly reach the top of the ground floor windows.

The videos above are just one piece in a large jigsaw of evidence that debunks the official theory.

Regarding Pentagon: They want us to believe that a trainee pilot, who according to his instructor, could barely handle a Cessna in straight and level flight, somehow performed an ideal descending spiral, which ended at Pentagon, skimmed above the ground, leaving the lamp posts on the approach unharmed, and slammed into the wall, leaving only a tiny hole, and some of the furniture inside intact (while two similar impacts allegedly brought down WTC, where nothing was left remaining from the buildings or furniture, save for the high-jackers' passports and a turbine from a wrong plane model).

Does not compute.

Here is some more (watch all 10 short parts):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czB_CWkqix4&list=PLWwb73xj88Z3bPFmJlse7T_JiW7wfWSOk&index=21
Complete film with Spanish subs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQFQHKjH4t0&list=PLWwb73xj88Z3bPFmJlse7T_JiW7wfWSOk&index=29

And also this, doing extensive audio and video analysis from an armature video recording of what I can only call a demolition. Watch especially 43 minutes in and onwards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlIUGqai81k&list=PLWwb73xj88Z3bPFmJlse7T_JiW7wfWSOk&index=5

Earlier I asked for 911 conspiracy theories that "made sense."  I did this because the ones presented didn't really seem to.  Now why all these Youtube video links?  How about an actual engineering analysis?

How about something better than your saying "what I can only call a demolition?"  But since you said that, let me ask-

Why would any bad guy cook up a scheme to plant truly massive amounts of explosives of some totally mysterious type into buildings, then fly airplanes into buildings, AND THEN DETONATE THE EXPLOSIVES?

that just seems to me like it would have to involve hundreds of people and thousands would have known about it - it seems just impractical, impossible, improbable, and insane.

Not sure you will see my point of view here - but really, think about the matter of choosing an extremely complicated "solution" when much simpler "solutions" exist.

How about an actual engineering analysis? these are your words
wow you have people who are at the top of there profession
 chief firemen who say malting steel they stood right next to it not 1 mile like you say
 major general of USA army photo specialist he say plane don,t fit in hole
demolition experts say brought down by explosives
air pilot who flew those same planes says impossible they hit the pentagon data report says it flew over the pentagon
engineering experts 30 years plus in there field all say bullshit

think about the matter of choosing an extremely complicated "solution" when much simpler "solutions" exist.      these are your words   

her is a simple solution you can do...... go and take your face for a shit you plant pot sheep
your like a bible basher      nothing will change your mind
not posting on this topic no more
even if bush told you him self he done it you still say i want proof
give your head a wobble will you
stupid sheep

[Spendulus]

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her is a simple solution you can do...... go and take your face for a shit you plant pot sheep
your like a bible basher      nothing will change your mind
not posting on this topic no more
even if bush told you him self he done it you still say i want proof
give your head a wobble will you
stupid sheep

Well that's certainly interesting.

[popcorn1]

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her is a simple solution you can do...... go and take your face for a shit you plant pot sheep
your like a bible basher      nothing will change your mind
not posting on this topic no more
even if bush told you him self he done it you still say i want proof
give your head a wobble will you
stupid sheep

Well that's certainly interesting.

did you empty your face coz your mouth was full of poo
plus show me where a plane hit the towers    and i am not believing all those you tube videos
see what i did there VICE VERSE 

oh come on stop posting now your driving me insane

[Spendulus]

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her is a simple solution you can do...... go and take your face for a shit you plant pot sheep
your like a bible basher      nothing will change your mind
not posting on this topic no more
even if bush told you him self he done it you still say i want proof
give your head a wobble will you
stupid sheep

Well that's certainly interesting.

did you empty your face coz your mouth was full of poo
plus show me where a plane hit the towers    and i am not believing all those you tube videos
see what i did there VICE VERSE 

oh come on stop posting now your driving me insane

Oh come on now popcorn, it's just an Internet discussion forum.

Nothing about it is any big deal.

Take a break, go outside and enjoy the world.

Lots of things I don't like also.

[popcorn1]

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her is a simple solution you can do...... go and take your face for a shit you plant pot sheep
your like a bible basher      nothing will change your mind
not posting on this topic no more
even if bush told you him self he done it you still say i want proof
give your head a wobble will you
stupid sheep

Well that's certainly interesting.

did you empty your face coz your mouth was full of poo
plus show me where a plane hit the towers   and i am not believing all those you tube videos
see what i did there VICE VERSE  

oh come on stop posting now your driving me insane

Oh come on now popcorn, it's just an Internet discussion forum.

Nothing about it is any big deal.

Take a break, go outside and enjoy the world.

Lots of things I don't like also.

i did what you told me... sorry bud .. and i never said i don,t like you..show me video evidence where i said i don,t like you  
av a nice day     live long and prosper
i chat to you on a other topic 

[Spendulus]

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her is a simple solution you can do...... go and take your face for a shit you plant pot sheep
your like a bible basher      nothing will change your mind
not posting on this topic no more
even if bush told you him self he done it you still say i want proof
give your head a wobble will you
stupid sheep

Well that's certainly interesting.

did you empty your face coz your mouth was full of poo
plus show me where a plane hit the towers   and i am not believing all those you tube videos
see what i did there VICE VERSE  

oh come on stop posting now your driving me insane

Oh come on now popcorn, it's just an Internet discussion forum.

Nothing about it is any big deal.

Take a break, go outside and enjoy the world.

Lots of things I don't like also.

i did what you told me... sorry bud .. and i never said i don,t like you..show me video evidence where i said i don,t like you  
av a nice day     live long and prosper
i chat to you on a other topic  

that's cool with me, and by the way, I don't like the big government either....

the way this thread got going, it was a couple of posters claiming those Evil Jews did 911, and I'm thinking, like this bullshit never ends...

Actually I have no interest in the events of 911, but I do have interests in formal logic and debate and such.

[PenguinFire]

I don't think the world will ever know for sure.     Extreme terrorist for sure carried it out but they were probably allowed to with the intelligence there but it was part of the greater plan.

[Spendulus]

I don't think the world will ever know for sure.     Extreme terrorist for sure carried it out but they were probably allowed to with the intelligence there but it was part of the greater plan.

Yeah, you know that just does not sound like George Bush.  Now if you said maybe the Saudi princes knew about it and stayed quiet, could be.

[Nemo1024]

About Pentagon. A lot of comparative imagery of disproportionally little damage there.

9/11 In Plane Site - Directors Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

[Spendulus]

About Pentagon. A lot of comparative imagery of disproportionally little damage there.

9/11 In Plane Site - Directors Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Did you know the Pentagon wasn't exactly built lightweight?  It's like, the PENTAGON, you know?

[BADecker]

About Pentagon. A lot of comparative imagery of disproportionally little damage there.

9/11 In Plane Site - Directors Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Did you know the Pentagon wasn't exactly built lightweight?  It's like, the PENTAGON, you know?

That's why the cruise missile only punched a little hole in it.

[Spendulus]

About Pentagon. A lot of comparative imagery of disproportionally little damage there.

9/11 In Plane Site - Directors Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Did you know the Pentagon wasn't exactly built lightweight?  It's like, the PENTAGON, you know?

That's why the cruise missile only punched a little hole in it.

That's totally ridiculous.  A cruise missile will go into a window.  The explosion is not even the same COLOR as what occurred at the Pentagon.

AGAIN - if you want to have a conspiracy theory, just make it a good one.

Okay?

[Fuck NWO]

"The crime of the century 9/11 was committed by the Israeli Mossad and the FBI and CIA and George Bush and his cabinet are all involved."

- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/the_israeli_mossad_9-11.html#sthash.40m3KUSZ.dpuf

[BADecker]

About Pentagon. A lot of comparative imagery of disproportionally little damage there.

9/11 In Plane Site - Directors Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Did you know the Pentagon wasn't exactly built lightweight?  It's like, the PENTAGON, you know?

That's why the cruise missile only punched a little hole in it.

That's totally ridiculous.  A cruise missile will go into a window.  The explosion is not even the same COLOR as what occurred at the Pentagon.

AGAIN - if you want to have a conspiracy theory, just make it a good one.

Okay?

Now it seems that you are trying to say that explosives did the 9/11 Pentagon.

[Tusk]

Something that is hardly mentioned but struck me as being odd were the anthrax attacks that happened.

THE 9/11 ANTHRAX FRAME-UP

After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Bush Administration tried to ram the USA PATRIOT Act through Congress," [Francis A.] Boyle said in a radio interview with Austin-based talk-show host Alex Jones. "That would have set up a police state. Senators Tom Daschle (D-South Dakota) and Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) were holding it up because they realized what this would lead to. The first draft of the PATRIOT Act would have suspended the writ of habeas corpus [which protects citizens from unlawful imprisonment and guarantees due process of law]. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, come these anthrax attacks."

"At the time I myself did not know precisely what was going on, either with respect to September 11 or the anthrax attacks, but then the New York Times revealed the technology behind the letter to Senator Daschle. [The anthrax used was] a trillion spores per gram, [refined with] special electro-static treatment. This is superweapons-grade anthrax that even the United States government, in its openly proclaimed programs, had never developed before. So it was obvious to me that this was from a U.S. government lab. There is nowhere else you could have gotten that.

In October [2001], press reports revealed that White House staff had been on a regimen of the powerful antibiotic Cipro since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Judicial Watch wants to know why White House workers, including President Bush, began taking the drug nearly a month before anthrax was detected on Capitol Hill.

Create the problem ----> Reaction -----> Provide the solution = USA PATRIOT Act

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/frameup.html

[Spendulus]

About Pentagon. A lot of comparative imagery of disproportionally little damage there.

9/11 In Plane Site - Directors Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Did you know the Pentagon wasn't exactly built lightweight?  It's like, the PENTAGON, you know?

That's why the cruise missile only punched a little hole in it.

That's totally ridiculous.  A cruise missile will go into a window.  The explosion is not even the same COLOR as what occurred at the Pentagon.

AGAIN - if you want to have a conspiracy theory, just make it a good one.

Okay?

Now it seems that you are trying to say that explosives did the 9/11 Pentagon.

It sure is more probable than a plane crash. What you should ask yourself is why the government tried to make people believe it was a plane and even planted fake witnesses that supported their theory, like that black cab driver.

Okay, please tell us where the plane went, and what happened to the people in it.

Also, what constitutes "more probable?" 

Obviously kerosene catching on fire looks completely different than the brilliant white flash of a high explosive.  And a cruise missile is about 20" around and maybe 15' long, so basically it would go in a window and make no hole.  Plus, if a plane did it there's no need to "plant fake witnesses that say they saw a plane."  If you did that, they you probably have to kill them all off or they'd start blackmailing, and some might have remorse and talk.


That implies "less probable" (for the cruise missile), right?

Frankly, the only thing I can see about the "cruise missile" theory is that it creates a link to the US Government, since they were the main player around with cruise missiles.

[BADecker]

About Pentagon. A lot of comparative imagery of disproportionally little damage there.

9/11 In Plane Site - Directors Cut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Did you know the Pentagon wasn't exactly built lightweight?  It's like, the PENTAGON, you know?

That's why the cruise missile only punched a little hole in it.

That's totally ridiculous.  A cruise missile will go into a window.  The explosion is not even the same COLOR as what occurred at the Pentagon.

AGAIN - if you want to have a conspiracy theory, just make it a good one.

Okay?

Now it seems that you are trying to say that explosives did the 9/11 Pentagon.

It sure is more probable than a plane crash. What you should ask yourself is why the government tried to make people believe it was a plane and even planted fake witnesses that supported their theory, like that black cab driver.

Okay, please tell us where the plane went, and what happened to the people in it.

That's always been part of the question. No plane in the videos. No debris that would have been left by a plane and passengers.

Also, what constitutes "more probable?" 

Obviously kerosene catching on fire looks completely different than the brilliant white flash of a high explosive.  And a cruise missile is about 20" around and maybe 15' long, so basically it would go in a window and make no hole. 

If an armed cruise missile hits the wall on the other side of the room after it flies in through the window, does it explode on contact?

Plus, if a plane did it there's no need to "plant fake witnesses that say they saw a plane."  If you did that, they you probably have to kill them all off or they'd start blackmailing, and some might have remorse and talk.

If you can bribe a witness, the media (who is in on the cover-up) isn't going to broadcast that he talked if he remorsefully changes his mind and blabs. So, how is anyone going to find out? Once he realizes that he can't get the truth out there, he simply will pine away in his sorrow.

That implies "less probable" (for the cruise missile), right?

Frankly, the only thing I can see about the "cruise missile" theory is that it creates a link to the US Government, since they were the main player around with cruise missiles.

What would be more convenient than a cruise missile? A rocket fired from a military jet?

[lucaspm98]

"The crime of the century 9/11 was committed by the Israeli Mossad and the FBI and CIA and George Bush and his cabinet are all involved."

- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/the_israeli_mossad_9-11.html#sthash.40m3KUSZ.dpuf

Welp that's a great way to combine all the theories into one.

[Spendulus]

"The crime of the century 9/11 was committed by the Israeli Mossad and the FBI and CIA and George Bush and his cabinet are all involved."

- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/the_israeli_mossad_9-11.html#sthash.40m3KUSZ.dpuf

Welp that's a great way to combine all the theories into one.

It lacks pickup trucks, beer, trains, and momma.  Could use some trailer parks too.