[Vote] Who did 911?

[free10]

dunno who to choose out of the poll options if it were still active lol ><

[catch.me.if.you.can]

Many articles on the internet say that Israel and Mossad did it. So i have a question: Why US army doesnt attack to Israel?

[btvGainer]

Many articles on the internet say that Israel and Mossad did it. So i have a question: Why US army doesnt attack to Israel?

Because they are afraid of them

[no-ice-please]

Many articles on the internet say that Israel and Mossad did it. So i have a question: Why US army doesnt attack to Israel?

The evidence is that a few of the people involved were associated with several governments including Israel prominently.

But in Israel if more than a few people knew about involvement by people in government it would be in the press and a lot of Israelis would be going after their own government for it.

Same in the U.S. and several other countries. There is a lot of evidence for involvement by high level people in the U.S. and Saudi govt. Research the activities of high level Saudis in the days before 911. But if there were more than a few people involved in any of those governments it would not be secret long. It is common in Israel for people to hear high level secret type stuff 'through the grapevine', but complicity in 911 is a different category and the gossip would not be contained by censors if it were based on fact.

What a person has to look for is some connection between all of the parties involved.

A huge amount of heroin is transshipped through Iran. In fact Iran confiscates more opium derivatives than any other country. The Saudis have some interest in the opium trade as it transits Iran since they are rivals in several ways. As for the interests of the other countries in the heroin trade search the internet.

[Possum577]

It's so much harder for truthers to create and defend "their truth" than to just believe the most logical and obvious answer. But I get it, I get it, "that's what they want yo to believe" so it's easier to believe their lies and deception, right?

Or...maybe, just maybe...the most logical and obvious answer could be the right answer. Maybe the idea of conpsiracy is only serving the imagination of those that cannot settle for an obvious view of reality.

If you need some encouragement, err education, here's a few reasons why the "truthers" are living a lie:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories#Criticism
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunking_9/11_Myths

Don't believe the hype. And never forget that Osama Bin Laden did this shit...

P.S. Why aren't you all talking about how the Bin Laden family owned the crane that crashed the mosque and killed 107 worshippers...on Sept. 11, 2015...of all days. This is something worthy of all your attention and chatter...http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/world/bin-laden-family-from-911-attacks-to-makkah-crane-crash/

[Spendulus]

Many articles on the internet say that Israel and Mossad did it. So i have a question: Why US army doesnt attack to Israel?

The evidence is that a few of the people involved were associated with several governments including Israel prominently.

But in Israel if more than a few people knew about involvement by people in government it would be in the press and a lot of Israelis would be going after their own government for it.

Same in the U.S. and several other countries. There is a lot of evidence for involvement by high level people in the U.S. and Saudi govt. Research the activities of high level Saudis in the days before 911. But if there were more than a few people involved in any of those governments it would not be secret long. It is common in Israel for people to hear high level secret type stuff 'through the grapevine', but complicity in 911 is a different category and the gossip would not be contained by censors if it were based on fact.

What a person has to look for is some connection between all of the parties involved.

A huge amount of heroin is transshipped through Iran. In fact Iran confiscates more opium derivatives than any other country. The Saudis have some interest in the opium trade as it transits Iran since they are rivals in several ways. As for the interests of the other countries in the heroin trade search the internet.

In this thread you have presented links which supposedly provide "this evidence."  I read them, and found that they did not do so at all.  They just discussed a few of the traffic stops and police reports from the 911 timeframe.

There is no evidence of a conspiracy such as you think may have happened.

[no-ice-please]

What you have is a lot of evidence that 1) bin Laden etc were involved and 2) others in various places were involved.

If you only want to look at the evidence that bin Laden was involved then fine. Ignore the other evidence that is fine.

There may well be some people who say that it is only the fault of the airplanes and those people choose to ignore all of the evidence except for the fact of airplanes hitting.

[bryant.coleman]

Many articles on the internet say that Israel and Mossad did it. So i have a question: Why US army doesnt attack to Israel?

Even I can create a blog and then post an article claiming that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by North Koreans and masterminded by Kim Jong Il, a few months before his death. Anyone can post anything in the internet. But the most important thing is that the evidence must be presented before someone posts his new conspiracy theory.

[Spendulus]

What you have is a lot of evidence that 1) bin Laden etc were involved and 2) others in various places were involved.

If you only want to look at the evidence that bin Laden was involved then fine. Ignore the other evidence that is fine.

There may well be some people who say that it is only the fault of the airplanes and those people choose to ignore all of the evidence except for the fact of airplanes hitting.

No, you really don't have a lot of evidence that others in various places were involved.  You don't have evidence that the Narco trafficers were involved, or the Israelis, or the US Government.

[Winalunt]

no one ever uploaded that video on the forum ?
it clearly shows it was pre planned nd how the metal of the building afll apart eventually.

[no-ice-please]

Many articles on the internet say that Israel and Mossad did it. So i have a question: Why US army doesnt attack to Israel?

Even I can create a blog and then post an article claiming that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by North Koreans and masterminded by Kim Jong Il, a few months before his death. Anyone can post anything in the internet. But the most important thing is that the evidence must be presented before someone posts his new conspiracy theory.

There is more than just "a blog" indicating that at least one part of 911 was being monitored by people who considered themselves to be working "in Israel's interest". You cannot compare that high quality evidence with someone saying Kim Jong Il was involved based on no evidence.

The problem that arises is there are people who support Israel, Zios, who look at the evidence and instead of saying "cut the cancer" they say "gotta cover my buddies since the evidence is compelling".

This completely cancels the focus on the bigger picture i.e., that there is plenty of evidence that the leaders behind the scene were operating with motives that were not nationalistic nor religious etc. There was a visible a group of individuals across several ideologies. Each of these did seem to get some benefit to their narrow causes. But if a person looks at the groups involved this operation is not consistent with ideological motives.

Assume it was only extremist Muslims. That would explain some things but not others.

Assume it was only Americans in high offices who wanted "whatever". You can safely say some of these Americans would have been 'neocon' types and that would explain invading Iraq, which might have benefited Israel.

The problem is when 911 hit we invaded Afghanistan immediately. We did not invade Iraq until March 2003. Did neocons get some benefit from invading Afghanistan?

Really the only people who benefited from invading Afghanistan were those who stood to lose if the Taliban were successful in eliminating opium. In other words those who control the opium derivative trade. A strong case exists that this trade is controlled at the top by folks in the intelligence and military communities in America and Russia and Saudi Arabia.

[Spendulus]

Many articles on the internet say that Israel and Mossad did it. So i have a question: Why US army doesnt attack to Israel?

Even I can create a blog and then post an article claiming that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by North Koreans and masterminded by Kim Jong Il, a few months before his death. Anyone can post anything in the internet. But the most important thing is that the evidence must be presented before someone posts his new conspiracy theory.

There is more than just "a blog" indicating that at least one part of 911 was being monitored by people who considered themselves to be working "in Israel's interest"......

SO WHAT?  The US Government and Israel exchange information.  Both knew that some kind of airplane attack by suicide was planned but they did not know where.

"Monitored" is different that "causing."

Let's get in the real world, okay?

[OBAViJEST]

Don't believe the hype. And never forget that Osama Bin Laden did this shit...

P.S. Why aren't you all talking about how the Bin Laden family owned the crane that crashed the mosque and killed 107 worshippers...on Sept. 11, 2015...of all days. This is something worthy of all your attention and chatter...http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/world/bin-laden-family-from-911-attacks-to-makkah-crane-crash/

Nice insertion of USA propaganda....never forget!!11 

And what does a billionaire's family owning a crane that crashed have to do with 9/11?

[Possum577]

Don't believe the hype. And never forget that Osama Bin Laden did this shit...

P.S. Why aren't you all talking about how the Bin Laden family owned the crane that crashed the mosque and killed 107 worshippers...on Sept. 11, 2015...of all days. This is something worthy of all your attention and chatter...http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/world/bin-laden-family-from-911-attacks-to-makkah-crane-crash/

Nice insertion of USA propaganda....never forget!!11 

And what does a billionaire's family owning a crane that crashed have to do with 9/11?

Really? You're believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy but won't comment on the bin laden families role in the death of over 100 muslims on 9/11 this year? At least be consistent! It's quite interesting...fate maybe...that the family that produced one of the greatest terrorists in the history of the world was involved in killing their own people and that lightning struck (essentially an act of God) on the anniversary of that families worst contribution to the world (to cause said killing by that family's asset).

[gogxmagog]

I get pretty tired of all the conspiracy theories

most are totally debunked here http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/

i do however believe that the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they did because they had been funded by US covert programs. 911 just happened to be what they call "blowback" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

[BADecker]

I get pretty tired of all the conspiracy theories

most are totally debunked here http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/

i do however believe that the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they did because they had been funded by US covert programs. 911 just happened to be what they call "blowback" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were.

If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed.

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James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedA

Published on Sep 11, 2015

TRANSCRIPT, SOURCES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16167

Forget for one moment everything you've been told about September 11, 2001. 9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: follow the money. This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail.

[Spendulus]

I get pretty tired of all the conspiracy theories

most are totally debunked here http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/

i do however believe that the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they did because they had been funded by US covert programs. 911 just happened to be what they call "blowback" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were.

If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed.

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James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions....

Corbett's a nut case.  And your logic isn't.  Some cops suspect a bank robbery on Saturday.  But where?  Who?  Which Saturday?

According to you, the cops "allowed it to happen."

Ridiculous.

[BADecker]

I get pretty tired of all the conspiracy theories

most are totally debunked here http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/

i do however believe that the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they did because they had been funded by US covert programs. 911 just happened to be what they call "blowback" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were.

If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed.

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James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions....

Corbett's a nut case.  And your logic isn't.  Some cops suspect a bank robbery on Saturday.  But where?  Who?  Which Saturday?

According to you, the cops "allowed it to happen."

Ridiculous.

Your logic is totally flawed in the fact that there are many cases where police and other government officials have been proven to have had a hand in certain kinds of robberies.

The fact that Corbett is suggesting a good scenario where 9/11 could have been an inside job, but you won't even acknowledge that fact that it might have been an inside job, shows that you are not only a hypocrite in the things you say, but if you aren't the nut case that you are accusing Corbett of being, then you are a covert agent for the government, trying to make sure the official story is accepted no matter what.

[Spendulus]

I get pretty tired of all the conspiracy theories

most are totally debunked here http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/

i do however believe that the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they did because they had been funded by US covert programs. 911 just happened to be what they call "blowback" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were.

If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed.

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James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions....

Corbett's a nut case.  And your logic isn't.  Some cops suspect a bank robbery on Saturday.  But where?  Who?  Which Saturday?

According to you, the cops "allowed it to happen."

Ridiculous.

Your logic is totally flawed in the fact that there are many cases where police and other government officials have been proven to have had a hand in certain kinds of robberies.

The fact that Corbett is suggesting a good scenario where 9/11 could have been an inside job, but you won't even acknowledge that fact that it might have been an inside job, shows that you are not only a hypocrite in the things you say, but if you aren't the nut case that you are accusing Corbett of being, then you are a covert agent for the government, trying to make sure the official story is accepted no matter what.

Well, make up your mind.  First you claimed that A->B which has to lead -> C.

Now you claim that in many cases, A->B -> C.

And then we've got the Grand Finale.

"Either Agree With ME, Or You Are A Covert Agent For The Gubbermint."

That's stupider than a bucket of rocks.

[BADecker]

I get pretty tired of all the conspiracy theories

most are totally debunked here http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/

i do however believe that the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they did because they had been funded by US covert programs. 911 just happened to be what they call "blowback" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29

First, let me remind that whoever did it, it was not done by only one person. It was done by many people working together. The point? It definitely was a conspiracy. The kind of conspiracy? A kind where many people worked together, whoever they were.

If the terrorists were allowed to proceed as far as they were, then the conspiracy was known about, and included those knew about it and allowed it to proceed.

----------

James Corbett - 9/11 Trillions....

Corbett's a nut case.  And your logic isn't.  Some cops suspect a bank robbery on Saturday.  But where?  Who?  Which Saturday?

According to you, the cops "allowed it to happen."

Ridiculous.

Your logic is totally flawed in the fact that there are many cases where police and other government officials have been proven to have had a hand in certain kinds of robberies.

The fact that Corbett is suggesting a good scenario where 9/11 could have been an inside job, but you won't even acknowledge that fact that it might have been an inside job, shows that you are not only a hypocrite in the things you say, but if you aren't the nut case that you are accusing Corbett of being, then you are a covert agent for the government, trying to make sure the official story is accepted no matter what.

Well, make up your mind.  First you claimed that A->B which has to lead -> C.

Now you claim that in many cases, A->B -> C.

And then we've got the Grand Finale.

"Either Agree With ME, Or You Are A Covert Agent For The Gubbermint."

That's stupider than a bucket of rocks.

Well, expressing things the way you did immediately above, simply means that the government has the right guy for the job... a sheeple who is dumb enough that he will never realize the truth. So, he just goes on blabbing and spouting the government rhetoric, most of the time not even understanding what he is going on about.