Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

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[Hamuki]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

[jaysabi]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

While your attempt to draw an analogy between atheism and religion has been drawn out painfully long and been discredited many times in this thread but just about everyone who bothers to respond to your posts, your propensity to cling to unworthy ideas is consistent to the point of being nearly absolute.

[BADecker]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

[the joint]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you:  Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious?  In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

[BADecker]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you:  Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious?  In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

That's easy. Non-religious is what dead people are (of course, they may be other things as well). It is also a term that applies to animals and inanimate things, since the religion of non-religion is a religion, itself.

 

[the joint]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you:  Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious?  In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

That's easy. Non-religious is what dead people are (of course, they may be other things as well). It is also a term that applies to animals and inanimate things, since the religion of non-religion is a religion, itself.

 

Do you believe every individual, living person is religious then?

[Buffer Overflow]

Hey BADecker, thrown any rocks at gays lately?
Tell you what, why not pop over to my house. I've got two gay tortoises trying to hump each other at the moment. Why not put a smile on Gods face and smash their sinning heads in with an iron bar?
Win win situation. You release some of that anger, kill two creatures for sinning and please God all at the same time.
Gods work.

You poor little guy. I feel so sad for you. Such a burden of pain you bear, deep within your soul. I can only feel compassion for you in your great pain. Perhaps someday someone will find a way to ease your hurt.

 

So was that a yes or a no?

[BADecker]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you:  Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious?  In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

That's easy. Non-religious is what dead people are (of course, they may be other things as well). It is also a term that applies to animals and inanimate things, since the religion of non-religion is a religion, itself.

 

Do you believe every individual, living person is religious then?

Actually, outside of a few who are mentally retarded vegetables, yes... although some of them religiously say they aren't.

[BADecker]

Hey BADecker, thrown any rocks at gays lately?
Tell you what, why not pop over to my house. I've got two gay tortoises trying to hump each other at the moment. Why not put a smile on Gods face and smash their sinning heads in with an iron bar?
Win win situation. You release some of that anger, kill two creatures for sinning and please God all at the same time.
Gods work.

You poor little guy. I feel so sad for you. Such a burden of pain you bear, deep within your soul. I can only feel compassion for you in your great pain. Perhaps someday someone will find a way to ease your hurt.

 

So was that a yes or a no?

For the rest of the folks reading this, he wouldn't understand either a yes or a no.

 

[the joint]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you:  Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious?  In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

That's easy. Non-religious is what dead people are (of course, they may be other things as well). It is also a term that applies to animals and inanimate things, since the religion of non-religion is a religion, itself.

 

Do you believe every individual, living person is religious then?

Actually, outside of a few who are mentally retarded vegetables, yes... although some of them religiously say they aren't.

So, in the past when you said that "religion will be proven true," then you think that the beliefs of every non-retarded, non-vegetable person will also be proven true, including atheists, correct?

[BADecker]

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.



EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1068356.msg11447618#msg11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker  we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you:  Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious?  In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

That's easy. Non-religious is what dead people are (of course, they may be other things as well). It is also a term that applies to animals and inanimate things, since the religion of non-religion is a religion, itself.

 

Do you believe every individual, living person is religious then?

Actually, outside of a few who are mentally retarded vegetables, yes... although some of them religiously say they aren't.

So, in the past when you said that "religion will be proven true," then you think that the beliefs of every non-retarded, non-vegetable person will also be proven true, including atheists, correct?

Who am I to contradict in the heart of another? If he is convinced to change his beliefs, however, then he has changed his religion.

Nobody's personal religion is the absolute truth. However, if someone's belief is extremely strong, he just might change things to always have been that way right from the beginning, even though it wasn't that way before he believed with such faith.

[Lauda]

I'm trying, really I am. It's like a train crash, you don't want to look, but you just can't seem to turn your head away.
Remember "The Dank Show"?
Now it's "The BADecker Show".

Don't feel too bad about it.  I think the reason people keep engaging BADecker is because they actually care to try to prevent someone continuing on such a profoundly deluded path.  This differs drastically from BADecker who doesn't seem to care one way or another whether someone believes in the truth or if he/she might go to hell.  He's just gleeful from thinking he's right, and that's about it.

I really wonder though, how many Christians and theists would need to tell BADecker he's delusional in order for him to start wondering whether he's wrong?

I remember that, but Dank tended to be funny sometimes. BADecker isn't funny at all.
While I do understand your point it has been proven that it is futile. The best way to fight a disease is to prevent it. Suggesting that he should be ignored is more efficient.

How about we actually get back onto the discussion, as it has taken a wrong path since he has joined.

I'm atheist and believe in the last judgement. I can accept any peaceably religion, the cristian religion maybe too.

Doesn't that contradict your belief. "Atheism is in a broad sense the rejection of belief in the existence of deities." I don't see a rejection in believing in the last judgement. Are you trying to say that you aren't involved in religion at all aside from that?

[the joint]

Nobody's personal religion is the absolute truth.

So that would include yours.

[jaysabi]

Nobody's personal religion is the absolute truth.

So that would include yours.

Oh, can't you see the predictable next response? His religion isn't personal, it's universal objective truth!   

[Beefcake]

Ok, so to answer the original question, I (as an atheist) don't hate religion.  What I hate is religious people who try to enforce rules upon the general population.  Rules that they themselves do not follow.  For example the commandment that says "don't be gay" is preceded by one that says "don't wear wool and linen at the same time."  Also sodomy is defined (strictly speaking) as any sex that is not for procreation (or more loosely defined as non-vaginal sex including oral).  So, yeah I know a LOT of christians and none of them follow these rules.  So where do they get off trying to make other people follow them?

I have had christian friends that did not want to have premarital sex, so they had oral or anal in stead.  And yet gay people should not get married...

Anyway, to all the christians out there:

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE THE F ALONE?!?

And stop saying stupid crap like gay people are like child molesters.  Seriously.

[BADecker]

Ok, so to answer the original question, I (as an atheist) don't hate religion.  What I hate is religious people who try to enforce rules upon the general population.  Rules that they themselves do not follow.  For example the commandment that says "don't be gay" is preceded by one that says "don't wear wool and linen at the same time."  Also sodomy is defined (strictly speaking) as any sex that is not for procreation (or more loosely defined as non-vaginal sex including oral).  So, yeah I know a LOT of christians and none of them follow these rules.  So where do they get off trying to make other people follow them?

I have had christian friends that did not want to have premarital sex, so they had oral or anal in stead.  And yet gay people should not get married...

Anyway, to all the christians out there:

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE THE F ALONE?!?

And stop saying stupid crap like gay people are like child molesters.  Seriously.

When a Christian sees an atheist, out of love for the life and soul of the atheist, he automatically wants to convert the atheist to God, so that the life and soul of the atheist is saved rather than damned.

Then the atheist gets angry with the Christian for telling him supposed nonsense. So he speaks against the Christian. Yet it is the Christian's idea to love and save the atheist.

After a time of being persecuted by atheists, some Christians become upset and fight back, even though they shouldn't. But can you blame these Christians?

[Hueristic]

I don't want Freedom OF religion, I want Freedom FROM religion.

-Confirmed Agnostic

[BADecker]

I don't want Freedom OF religion, I want Freedom FROM religion.

-Confirmed Agnostic

Outside of your own personal religion of life and living, you have the ability to be free from any and all religions. The only way to get rid of your personal religion of life and living is to die (maybe become a vegetable).

[BIT-Sharon]

You believe in God or you believe nothing with all doubts which can not be solved by science.