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[MoreBloodWine]

In ohio right now with family so I'm monitoring remotely as the image shows but I'm curious if you, IGS, might have an idea on why all of a sudden I'm seeing / getting this on one of my two clients.

The machine is win 7 64 bit, the one crashing is the main client run from the exe where as the second which seems to be holding fine is run from a shortcut with the target trick.

[iGotSpots]

In ohio right now with family so I'm monitoring remotely as the image shows but I'm curious if you, IGS, might have an idea on why all of a sudden I'm seeing / getting this on one of my two clients.

The machine is win 7 64 bit, the one crashing is the main client run from the exe where as the second which seems to be holding fine is run from a shortcut with the target trick.

Paul came up with a bandaid fix for this for now

Run with XP-Compatibility and it shouldn't crash again. It's a known, but sporadic, issue that I'm working on nailing down

[iGotSpots]

Just keeping this on the newest page because it's very important

Variance Staking Explained
Now that we've all had a few days to get used to the new blockchain and wallet, there have been a few questions to how much people will stake on their deposits. While the changes are not over-the-top complicated, they do change the basic fundamentals of how rewards are calculated. I wanted to take a few minutes to explain exactly what Variance Staking means

First, I'll just copy the code from Github, which makes it pretty self explanatory when you see it singled out. Please note there are a few extra spaces that are not on Github, only because it was making emoticons with them on the forums. With that being said, let's get into it

Code:

int64_t GetProofOfStakeReward(int nHeight, int64_t nCoinAge, int64_t nFees)
{
    int64_t nMultiplier = 100 * CENT;
    int64_t nSubsidy = (((nHeight % 9) + ((nCoinAge % 100000) * 33 / (365 * 33 + 8 ))) + 1) * nMultiplier;
    a + b
	return nSubsidy;
}

nMultiplier is simply used as a tweaking dial that can be turned up or down as needed to control inflation. Using 100 * CENT just gives us full coins, rather than decimals. The main reason is just so this is here later to change if needed, it really serves no purpose other than to do calculations in full coins

The line we are going to look at and break down is this:

int64_t nSubsidy = (((nHeight % 9) + ((nCoinAge % 100000) * 33 / (365 * 33 + 8 ))) + 1) * nMultiplier;

nSubsidy is the final reward that will be passed later on. nHeight is block number and nCoinAge is obvious

nHeight % 9 will take the block number, divide it by 9 and return the remainder as the value
This number will always be between 0 and 9 (the base rewards we have been seeing so far)

nCoinage % 100000 will allow a maximum coinage of 100,000 to be used, which is then multiplied by '(33 / (365 * 33 + 8 )' or 0.00273790757, to scale it down further and prevent compounding inflation
This will return a value somewhere between 0 and 273.790757488

The final +1 is there for one simple reason.. while doing test runs this problem never came up, but I noticed that it could potentially in the future.. If that last +1 was not there, as unlikely as it is, we could have run into a 'divide by zero' issue while calculating or splitting rewards, so that is just a failsafe to ensure we never return 0 as the value (this was originaly was nHeight calculation is in, but was later replaced. nHeight is only used now to fluctuate rewards for deposits that are not large enough to be scaled by coinage)

Last, as explained above, nMultiplier is only used to turn the final result into a full number, rather than a long reward amount with a staggering amount of decimal places

Hopefully this will clear up a bit on what you can expect both now and for the future as far as staking and GorillaBand rewards. The later in the life of the coin we get, with higher coinage, the faster GorillaBands will pay themselves off. At current rates for now, you are doubling your coins in less than a month

TL;DR: Rewards will be between 1.0 and about 284 for the life of the coin if no updates are required

[MoreBloodWine]

@IGS: But why all of a sudden would I be getting this "error" now when everything's ran fine up to three clients since launch ?

[iGotSpots]

It's a known, but sporadic, issue that I'm working on nailing down

[MoreBloodWine]

It's a known, but sporadic, issue that I'm working on nailing down

Not what I asked but thats cool lol

So if you don't mind me beating the proverbial dead horse lol, is there a linux install planned ?

[iGotSpots]

It's a known, but sporadic, issue that I'm working on nailing down

Not what I asked but thats cool lol

So if you don't mind me beating the proverbial dead horse lol, is there a linux install planned ?

Most people use Linux so they don't have to use pre-compiled binaries, so it's not really on my list of stuff to do

[Ricky Petrovich]

For all that could be interested:

Proposed TEETH fork

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11787044#msg11787044

Waiting for you there.

Please be respectful to Spots and don't post in this thread about this new coin.

[MoreBloodWine]

It's a known, but sporadic, issue that I'm working on nailing down

Not what I asked but thats cool lol

So if you don't mind me beating the proverbial dead horse lol, is there a linux install planned ?

Most people use Linux so they don't have to use pre-compiled binaries, so it's not really on my list of stuff to do

Well without a Linux install like bitcoin.org offers I don't know that I could get it set up right at vultr. So if I offered a bit of a payment, or maybe u do me a solid. Is it something you would consider please ?

That being said, I don't even have my bands running and haven't been for the past 2 days because I need em on LINUX and can't get em there without the pre-compiled stuff like bitcoin.org offers.

[baldpope]

Thanks for the technicals.  Any answer as to whether MNs or staking 5000 is the best at the moment?

Anyone got any figures for how much the Gorillabands are making?  baldpope?

I've updated the thread, but in the first 24hr period for the Gorillaband setup, we earned 24.5 BUCKS.

Follow the co-op thread and ask questions here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1107588.msg11778152#msg11778152

[iGotSpots]

Added a second block explorer and paper wallets today. Thanks dasource 

[kcanup]

@spots I have btc withdrawal waiting for admin approval in gorilla exchange, how long it gonna take? Its already 6 hours? 

[iGotSpots]

@spots I have btc withdrawal waiting for admin approval in gorilla exchange, how long it gonna take? Its already 6 hours? 

Forwarded to Paul, he'll be on it shortly, sorry

[kcanup]

@spots I have btc withdrawal waiting for admin approval in gorilla exchange, how long it gonna take? Its already 6 hours? 

Forwarded to Paul, he'll be on it shortly, sorry

Thanks 

[wgd]

iGotSpots you can write off on my pm? And reasonably conclude this, I'll be happy with anything;]

[iGotSpots]

iGotSpots you can write off on my pm? And reasonably conclude this, I'll be happy with anything;]

I have a ton of PM's, I haven't really gone through them all yet, but I will get to them soon

[iGotSpots]

dasource has just set up a list of GorillaBands that you can now view remotely

[MoreBloodWine]

This is why I didn't want to try and compile it myself lol...

GorillaBand:~$ cd GorillaBucks-master
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master$ cd src
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master/src$ make -f makefile.unix
g++ -c -O2  -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wno-ignored-qualifiers -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DUSE_SECP256K1 -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/obj -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DENABLE_WALLET -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/leveldb/include -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/alert.d -o obj/alert.o alert.cpp
alert.cpp:258:1: fatal error: opening dependency file obj/alert.d: No such file or directory
 }
 ^
compilation terminated.
makefile.unix:202: recipe for target 'obj/alert.o' failed
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master/src$

[iGotSpots]

This is why I didn't want to try and compile it myself lol...

GorillaBand:~$ cd GorillaBucks-master
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master$ cd src
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master/src$ make -f makefile.unix
g++ -c -O2  -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wno-ignored-qualifiers -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DUSE_SECP256K1 -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/obj -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DENABLE_WALLET -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/leveldb/include -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/alert.d -o obj/alert.o alert.cpp
alert.cpp:258:1: fatal error: opening dependency file obj/alert.d: No such file or directory
 }
 ^
compilation terminated.
makefile.unix:202: recipe for target 'obj/alert.o' failed
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master/src$

Create an empty folder named obj in GorillaBucks/src/

[MoreBloodWine]

This is why I didn't want to try and compile it myself lol...

GorillaBand:~$ cd GorillaBucks-master
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master$ cd src
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master/src$ make -f makefile.unix
g++ -c -O2  -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wno-ignored-qualifiers -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DUSE_SECP256K1 -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/obj -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DENABLE_WALLET -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/leveldb/include -I/home/GorillaBand1/GorillaBucks-master/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/alert.d -o obj/alert.o alert.cpp
alert.cpp:258:1: fatal error: opening dependency file obj/alert.d: No such file or directory
 }
 ^
compilation terminated.
makefile.unix:202: recipe for target 'obj/alert.o' failed
make: *** [obj/alert.o] Error 1
GorillaBand1:~/GorillaBucks-master/src$

Create an empty folder named obj in GorillaBucks/src/

When done will it give me a gorillabucksd file or somethin ?