What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)?

[TECSHARE]

You have pasted the same article 5 times and yes I have read it, but still do not have an answer.

Either you didn't read it or you failed to comprehend it. In either case I must conclude that you are at best an idiot, at worst a liar.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

It's only a logical fallacy if there is no observation involved, if said stupidity (or character flaw) is a baseless assumption rather than observed reality.

A personal attack is still a personal attack no matter how you justify it. You aren't arguing a point you are arguing a person. Also there is this...
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

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[Beliathon]

You have pasted the same article 5 times and yes I have read it, but still do not have an answer.

Either you didn't read it or you failed to comprehend it. In either case I must conclude that you are at best an idiot, at worst a liar.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

It's only a logical fallacy if there is no observation involved, if said stupidity (or character flaw) is a baseless assumption rather than observed reality.

A personal attack is still a personal attack no matter how you justify it. You aren't arguing a point you are arguing a person. Also there is this...
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

Incorrect, I engaged the criticism by refuting it with evidence on display in this very thread. He claimed to have read the article about sealioning, while continuing to sealion in that same post. Ergo, stupidity or lying or both.

[Wilikon]

You have pasted the same article 5 times and yes I have read it, but still do not have an answer.

Either you didn't read it or you failed to comprehend it. In either case I must conclude that you are at best an idiot, at worst a liar.

Finally, Pigeons Get a Little Respect

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/02/03/pigeons-get-a-little-respect.aspx




Pigeons have featured in numerous experiments in comparative psychology, including experiments concerned with animal cognition, and as a result there is considerable knowledge of pigeon intelligence.




Available data show, for example, that:

Pigeons have the capacity to share attention between different dimensions of a stimulus, but (like humans and other animals) their performance with multiple dimensions is worse than with a single stimulus dimension.
Pigeons can be taught relatively complex actions and response sequences, and can learn to make responses in different sequences.
Pigeons readily learn to respond in the presence of one simple stimulus and withhold responding in the presence of a different stimulus, or to make different responses in the presence of different stimuli.
Pigeons can discriminate between other individual pigeons, and can use the behaviour of another individual as a cue to tell them what response to make.
Pigeons readily learn to make discriminative responses to different categories of stimuli, defined either by arbitrary rules (e.g. green triangles) or by human concepts (e.g. pictures of human beings).
Pigeons do less well with categories defined by abstract logical relationships, e.g. "symmetrical" or "same", though some experimenters have successfully trained pigeons to discriminate such categories.
Pigeons seem to require more information than humans for constructing a three-dimensional image from a plane representation.
Pigeons seem to have difficulty in dealing with problems involving classes of classes. Thus they do not do very well with the isolation of a relationship among variables, as against a representation of a set of exemplars.
Pigeons can remember large numbers of individual images for a long time, e.g. hundreds of images for periods of several years.
All these are capacities that are likely to be found in most mammal and bird species. In addition pigeons have unusual, perhaps unique, abilities to learn routes back to their home from long distances. This homing behaviour is different from that of birds that learn migration routes, which usually occurs over a fixed route at fixed times of the year, whereas homing is more flexible; however similar mechanisms may be involved.

Additionally pigeons may be among the very few animals to pass the mirror test[1] — which tests whether an animal recognizes its reflection as an image of itself — along with common chimpanzees, bonobos, orangutans, dolphins, African grey parrots, crows, magpies, elephants, and humans.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigeon_intelligence




21 AMAZING FACTS YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT PIGEONS

http://www.deterapigeon.com/articles/21-amazing-facts-you-didnt-know-about-pigeons/





17 Ways That Pigeons Are Cooler Than Humans

http://www.buzzfeed.com/meganm15/pigeons-are-cooler-than-people#.yfpdRykKQ




Pigeon Intelligence & Achievements

http://www.beautyofbirds.com/pigeonintelligence.html

[TECSHARE]

Incorrect, I engaged the criticism by refuting it with evidence on display in this very thread. He claimed to have read the article about sealioning, while continuing to sealion in that same post. Ergo, stupidity or lying or both.

So in short, he is sealionining because, he is sealioning? Do you even realize you are making your argument based on a premise you are already assuming?
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question

[Beliathon]

Incorrect, I engaged the criticism by refuting it with evidence on display in this very thread. He claimed to have read the article about sealioning, while continuing to sealion in that same post. Ergo, stupidity or lying or both.

So in short, he is sealionining because, he is sealioning? Do you even realize you are making your argument based on a premise you are already assuming?
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question

It wasn't an assumption, his sealioning was both obvious and indisputable as the information he was requesting I provide is readily (and abundantly) available at his fingertips.

"The biggest reason why people hate sealioning is because responding to it is a complete waste of time.

It's an insidious trap. Responding to questions asked reasonably is, of course, a natural thing for people to do. I like to do it myself; educating others is generally pretty entertaining, especially if they are receptive to learning. Dismissing those questions can appear condescending or rude, especially if you actually are condescending or rude.

Of course, these questions are not asked because the person genuinely wants to know. If they did, they would do their own digging based on your statements, and only ask for obscure or difficult-to-discover information. This is the "debate principle"; when you go to a debate, you educate yourself on the topics at hand, and only request evidence when a claim is either quite outlandish or unflinchingly obscure.

No, these questions are asked to make you waste your time. It works, too; I've responded to sealions before, answering all their questions and claims for evidence, only to be greeted by even more willful ignorance. It's a way to force you into responding to questions phrased neutrally but asked in bad faith."

[TECSHARE]

So in short, he is sealionining because, he is sealioning? Do you even realize you are making your argument based on a premise you are already assuming?
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question

It's not an assumption, his sealioning was both obvious and indisputable as the information he is requesting is readily available at his fingertips.

"The biggest reason why people hate sealioning is because responding to it is a complete waste of time.

It's an insidious trap. Responding to questions asked reasonably is, of course, a natural thing for people to do. I like to do it myself; educating others is generally pretty entertaining, especially if they are receptive to learning. Dismissing those questions can appear condescending or rude, especially if you actually are condescending or rude.

Of course, these questions are not asked because the person genuinely wants to know. If they did, they would do their own digging based on your statements, and only ask for obscure or difficult-to-discover information. This is the "debate principle"; when you go to a debate, you educate yourself on the topics at hand, and only request evidence when a claim is either quite outlandish or unflinchingly obscure.

No, these questions are asked to make you waste your time. It works, too; I've responded to sealions before, answering all their questions and claims for evidence, only to be greeted by even more willful ignorance. It's a way to force you into responding to questions phrased neutrally but asked in bad faith."

That was a nice copy and paste of some one elese's argument. Funny how you expect everyone else to make their own arguments but some how your viewpoints are just so righteous and universal you needn't waste your time with such petty things.

BTW, you do realize that even if he WAS "sealioning", that is not a logical fallacy, nor does it invalidate any of his questions/arguments just because you believe he intends to waste your time. Accusing people of "sealioning" is just a convenient excuse to not have to logically defend the world view you so willfully push upon others.

Here is another to add to your list: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

[Beliathon]

That was a nice copy and paste of some one elese's argument.

The truth cares nothing for the misguided notion that ideas can be owned, borrowed, or stolen. Your capitalist thought habits only hamper you in your search for truth. Information always seeks to be free, just as water seeks to reach sea level.

BTW, you do realize that even if he WAS "sealioning", that is not a logical fallacy

I never claimed sealioning was a logical fallacy, only linked a logical argument explaining clear why I wouldn't respond to sealioning (because doing so is fruitless).

[TECSHARE]

That was a nice copy and paste of some one elese's argument.

The truth cares nothing for the misguided notion that ideas can be owned, borrowed, or stolen. Your capitalist thought habits only hamper you in your search for truth. Information always seeks to be free, just as water seeks to reach sea level.

BTW, you do realize that even if he WAS "sealioning", that is not a logical fallacy

I never claimed sealioning was a logical fallacy, only linked a logical argument explaining clear why I wouldn't respond to sealioning (because doing so is fruitless).

And again:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

This has nothing to do with ownership, and everything to do with your own inability to even regurgitate the ideas you support in your own words. You can make up any excuse you want to not reply to the arguments of others, unfortunately just because you believe things internally, doesn't mean it is a fact for anyone else. IMO you are simply creating an excuse to not to engage in debate and be required to defend your ideals because he does not agree with your position. That sounds familiar...
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[Trifixion713]

One word, you are pathetic beliathon. I am white myself and have not received any "special privilege" just because of my race. Prove 1 way that oculd happen. In fact, its the opposite. Affirmative action allows the other races to get accepted into universities a lot easier.

I'm going to second this, this whole SJW thing is a bunch of crap. 3 pages in and still no answer to your question - why?  Because he has none.

[funtotry]

One word, you are pathetic beliathon. I am white myself and have not received any "special privilege" just because of my race. Prove 1 way that oculd happen. In fact, its the opposite. Affirmative action allows the other races to get accepted into universities a lot easier.

I'm going to second this, this whole SJW thing is a bunch of crap. 3 pages in and still no answer to your question - why?  Because he has none.

He is just attacking me personally, because thats what liberals do. They call you racist, bigoted, homophobic, stupid, retarded, anything they want, but they dodge the question.
Beliathon, if you want to have reasonable and intelligent debates, NEVER attack people personally, attack their ideas and that way you can maybe win the debate.
Still waiting on an answer.

[Beliathon]

If bitcoin has taught you nothing else, it should be that it matters not who an idea comes from, only that the idea itself is true and worthy. Nothing is wrong with using other people's arguments, especially if they have said something more articulately and/or concisely than you would.

Only in factory schools is collaboration slandered as cheating. This isn't a school, and many people here clearly aren't learning much.

Regarding SJW: Capitalism is the defining issue of our generation, it is our slavery, it's only natural that it will provoke great controversy. Where you fall on this issue will largely define how you're remembered by the rest of humanity for eternity.

[Wilikon]

If bitcoin has taught you nothing else, it should be that it matters not who an idea comes from, only that the idea itself is true and worthy. Nothing is wrong with using other people's arguments, especially if they have said something more articulately and/or concisely than you would.

Only in factory schools is collaboration slandered as cheating. This isn't a school, and many people here clearly aren't learning much.

Regarding SJW: Capitalism is the defining issue of our generation, it is our slavery, it's only natural that it will provoke great controversy. Where you fall on this issue will largely define how you're remembered by the rest of humanity for eternity.

Is Satoshi a social justice warrior?

[TECSHARE]

If bitcoin has taught you nothing else, it should be that it matters not who an idea comes from, only that the idea itself is true and worthy. Nothing is wrong with using other people's arguments, especially if they have said something more articulately and/or concisely than you would.

Only in factory schools is collaboration slandered as cheating. This isn't a school, and many people here clearly aren't learning much.

Regarding SJW: Capitalism is the defining issue of our generation, it is our slavery, it's only natural that it will provoke great controversy. Where you fall on this issue will largely define how you're remembered by the rest of humanity for eternity.

 No one accused you of cheating. I don't care where your ideas come from. I care that you do not personally understand them well enough to even have the ability to explain them using logic and facts (not just more of your own beliefs). This demonstrates to me your inability for critical independent thought.

Again, that is  a nice forced injection of your unrelated political ideals in a sad attempt to divert the topic of discussion. Love the grandiose self importance BTW. Socialists are all for equality, just as long as some one other than themselves are making the sacrifice for it.

more fallacies to add to your list:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

[Beliathon]

If bitcoin has taught you nothing else, it should be that it matters not who an idea comes from, only that the idea itself is true and worthy. Nothing is wrong with using other people's arguments, especially if they have said something more articulately and/or concisely than you would.

Only in factory schools is collaboration slandered as cheating. This isn't a school, and many people here clearly aren't learning much.

Regarding SJW: Capitalism is the defining issue of our generation, it is our slavery, it's only natural that it will provoke great controversy. Where you fall on this issue will largely define how you're remembered by the rest of humanity for eternity.

Is Satoshi a social justice warrior?

I would say no except for the text he embedded in the genesis block about bank bailouts second round. Seems there may have been a political agenda from the beginning, given this technology is such a powerful tool for seizing power from government/banks/other tyrannical entities that enforce monopolies with threat of violence.

[Wilikon]

If bitcoin has taught you nothing else, it should be that it matters not who an idea comes from, only that the idea itself is true and worthy. Nothing is wrong with using other people's arguments, especially if they have said something more articulately and/or concisely than you would.

Only in factory schools is collaboration slandered as cheating. This isn't a school, and many people here clearly aren't learning much.

Regarding SJW: Capitalism is the defining issue of our generation, it is our slavery, it's only natural that it will provoke great controversy. Where you fall on this issue will largely define how you're remembered by the rest of humanity for eternity.

Is Satoshi a social justice warrior?

I would say no except for the text he embedded in the genesis block about bank bailouts second round. Seems there may have been a political agenda from the beginning, given this technology is such a powerful tool for seizing power from government/banks/other tyrannical entities that enforce monopolies with threat of violence.

Do you think the concept of sjw was hijacked by reddit zombies and you represent the true nature of being a real sjw? Is doxxing someone or have him fired through a relentless attack campaign justified if that person does not share your viewpoint? I do not mean a murderer or a pedo. I mean a political or a philosophical position protected by what most consider free speech.

[TECSHARE]

 How Social Justice Warriors Are Creating An Entire Generation Of Fascists
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999147.0;all

[Lethn]

Getting you fired from your job is just the beginning, putting a bullet in your head is the final solution.

Commie scum

Even the communists are getting sick of these arseholes, the reason I'm a bit angsty about this issue lately is I managed to get myself banned off /r/ Anarchism for daring to talk about feminism in the context of men and they claimed I was MRA, a fucking national communist said he was getting tired of the people on that subreddit attacking others so much over it.

You know you've fucking up when even hardcore communists are fed up of you, these people are so deluded though they think nothing one of them does is wrong even if it's murder, that's why I said awhile back I was actually ready for a fight with these scumbags, I've been studying them for some time now. I was just wondering when they would start trying to inflitrate Bitcointalk and believe me they really do try to take over communities and try to silence everybody.

[AJMax]

I don't even know if you are being satirical or not.

Not at all.

The "check your privileged thing" saying is only used by tumblrites and the FAR left liberals.

I'm a social anarchist / anarcho-socialist and anti-capitalist, so basically as far left as the spectrum goes.

No one needs to "check their privilege", we are all humans

Wrong. That argument didn't hold up when they tried to use it to defend slavery, it certainly doesn't hold up now.

The only difference is that rest of the world doesn't even acknowledge their privilege and discrimination, instead rationalizing and justifying them under various guises of ideologies, religions, etc. Any significant questioning of such status quo isn't rewarded with petty harassment and mean words. They are rewarded with gang rape, strict social ostacization, criminal prosecution in complete kangaroo courts, medieval tortures that exist not for the purpose of information extraction but maximum terrorization, pogroms, local exterminations and complete genocide that makes all the supposed 'sins' of the west a laughable joke in comparison.

In fact, racism and discrimination as well as those 'privileges' that you complain about so much exist in far greater quantities in places you know nothing about and certainly dare not question for the fear of retribution from those who can be much more violent and radical than your 1st world revolutionary wannabe kiddy play.

West tend to be much freer and tolerant of self-criticism - one reason why mouthy fool like you can even dare to spout this non sense and try to pass it off as some laughable pseudo-intellectual babble.Not that I expect a fcking spoiled 1st worlder like you to know anything about that.


You know nothing of slavery, discrimination, or any kind of fake righteous cause you think you can latch on to in order to buttress your own lack of confidence and purpose in your own identity. Do yourself a favor and keep that mouth shut before the whole world realizes you are a pliable and easily manipulated clown.

Too late probably.

[Wilikon]

Getting you fired from your job is just the beginning, putting a bullet in your head is the final solution.

Commie scum

Even the communists are getting sick of these arseholes, the reason I'm a bit angsty about this issue lately is I managed to get myself banned off /r/ Anarchism for daring to talk about feminism in the context of men and they claimed I was MRA, a fucking national communist said he was getting tired of the people on that subreddit attacking others so much over it.

You know you've fucking up when even hardcore communists are fed up of you, these people are so deluded though they think nothing one of them does is wrong even if it's murder, that's why I said awhile back I was actually ready for a fight with these scumbags, I've been studying them for some time now. I was just wondering when they would start trying to inflitrate Bitcointalk and believe me they really do try to take over communities and try to silence everybody.

mra?

[Lethn]

Oh, Men's Rights Activists and yes, they exist precisely because of people like Beliathon going around and harassing others constantly, they're pretty much man's response to feminism.