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January 29, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
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February 13, 2019, 06:31:36 PM
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Gun laws and policies (collectively referred to as firearms regulation or gun control) regulate the manufacture, sale, transfer, possession, modification and use of small arms by civilians. Many countries have restrictive firearm policies, while a few have permissive ones.[1][2] The only countries with permissive gun legislation are: Albania, Austria, Chad, Republic of Congo, Honduras, Micronesia, Namibia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Senegal, Tanzania, the United States, Yemen and Zambia, although several other countries like Canada and the Czech Republic, despite theoretically being restrictive, are shall-issue countries. Countries with a strong gun culture may afford civilians a right to keep and bear arms, and have more-liberal gun laws than neighboring jurisdictions. Countries which regulate access to firearms will typically restrict access to certain categories of firearms and then restrict the categories of persons who may be granted a license for access to such firearms. There may be separate licenses for hunting, sport shooting (a.k.a. target shooting), self-defense, collecting, and concealed carry, with different sets of requirements, permissions, and responsibilities.

I believe the United States is the only country where the very document that defines our basic laws (the constitution) declares that the right to own weapons and defend ourselves is a natural right of all free people and that the government is not allowed to interfere with that right.

In short, the second amendment does not tell us what we can do with weapons, it tells the government what it can't do with our weapons.


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February 13, 2019, 09:18:09 PM
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Perhaps an even better way to say it is, the Constitution and Amendments are limitations on Government. They have nothing to do with the lives of private people.

The Constitution and Amendments do NOT act on anybody; they are simply paperwork. It is always government PEOPLE that do things. If government people harm you, sue them just like you would sue any other person. Don't necessarily sue them in their governmental office capacity. Sue them for the harm or damage they did to you as a man/woman.

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February 14, 2019, 08:37:09 PM
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surely agree, if there are restrictions on who has the authority to use weapons it will reduce accidents with weapons. This reminds me of poetry: make love not war

Ultimately this only ensures that those with weapons, be they criminals or the government (redundant - I know), will use them against those without.

Why? because humans are not by nature loving and kind.  We are the most ruthless and successful predator on the planet.

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February 19, 2019, 08:25:11 AM
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its good to be safe in now the world. every alternative person would have a gun control on.
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February 19, 2019, 01:36:41 PM
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I prefer to be my own controller of my own guns.     Cool

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February 21, 2019, 01:34:09 PM
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There is one great advantage to owning and using a gun for the average person. It is that a gun helps to support your strength to realize that you are a man/woman, and that life is REAL.

The great disadvantage to owning guns is that they give a false sense of security to people who are not quite as mentally stable as they should be. And I am not talking about the mentally ill, here. All of us are off in our thinking and maturity a little.

However, again...

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February 26, 2019, 02:36:21 AM
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I believe the United States is the only country where the very document that defines our basic laws (the constitution) declares that the right to own weapons and defend ourselves is a natural right of all free people and that the government is not allowed to interfere with that right.
I do not think it is allowed to ever people. I think it is allowed to the person who might face problem and/or who is a famous person or political person, whats ever an important person. And it is not only for the people of USA I think it is allowed all over the world.

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February 28, 2019, 01:06:46 AM
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^^^ The right to self defense is inherent in the people. In some countries, however, you need to carry many big guns with unlimited ammo to fight off all the law enforcement and military that will attempt to kill you and take your guns away.

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March 01, 2019, 12:09:21 PM
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[/quote]Arms are in large quantities and are everywhere, unlike food, which is decreasing every day. Strict laws must be put in place to acquire weapons. And the distribution of it to specific people only need it. The proliferation of weapons does nothing if your enemy also has weapons but death and destruction.
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March 01, 2019, 08:36:45 PM
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...What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?

I don't know about the ideal set of laws for firearms, but I was shaken when i laid eyes on the statistics, compiled by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, only a couple months old, where not only is the US the only G8 member that ranks in the top 20 nations for gun deaths, but of the three categories used in the statistical chart, namely firearm violence, firearm suicide and firearm accident, the US percentage on firearm suicides, dwarfs every single one of the other top 19 nations, by a wide margin.

In fact, the US even outweighed Uruguay, the only other nation where firearm suicides counted for more deaths than the firearm violence; firearm violence being the top death causation in the case for the other 18 top gun death nations in the world.

The ratio between firearm suicides to firearm violence in the US is 7.7 to 4.4, as outlined by the study done by the Institute mentioned. (see GUNS IN AMERICA: OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FIREARMS IN 5 CHARTS)

What this boils down to is that for every 1 person that causes death of someone else using a firearm, there are 1.75 persons causing their own death, using a firearm in the USA. Very very sad. Sad


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March 01, 2019, 09:19:19 PM
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   Heart disease: 614,348
    Cancer: 591,699
    Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
    Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
    Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
    Alzheimer’s disease: 93,541
    Diabetes: 76,488
    Influenza and pneumonia: 55,227
    Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,146
    Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773


   Heart disease: 635,260
    Cancer: 598,038
    Accidents (unintentional injuries): 161,374
    Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 154,596
    Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 142,142
    Alzheimer’s disease: 116,103
    Diabetes: 80,058
    Influenza and pneumonia: 51,537
    Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,046
    Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,965




Gun violence in the United States by state - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state




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March 02, 2019, 12:55:26 PM
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^^^ Did you notice the highest categories of dying in the above post? You make a will so that your kids get your property when you die. Then you go to the hospital for heart disease or cancer, and the hospital gets all your money, and then you die... without having anything left to be distributed to your kids through your will.

Personally, I'll take dying by gun over letting the medical do more to me than simply patching up a broken bone once in a while.

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March 05, 2019, 07:57:02 PM
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Self defence is the best way to save everything but sometime safe defence may occur offence as the person might be offensive in that case other people might fall on problem. And for that reason everyone should have capability to avoid offensive manner.

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March 06, 2019, 01:55:36 AM
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In an ideal world guns should only be available to hunters and law enforcement.

Problem is corruption in governments allows weapons to be leaked out into society as well.

So what do u do?
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March 06, 2019, 03:12:29 AM
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In an ideal world guns should only be available to hunters and law enforcement.

Problem is corruption in governments allows weapons to be leaked out into society as well.

So what do u do?

How about run a government in such a way that there is no reason for people to take up arms against it (which is why the U.S. 2nd amendment exists.)

That has worked in the U.S. for about 243 years.  I suspect that a major reason why it has worked as well as it has for as long as it has is that the founding fathers saw fit to establish the mechanism.

On the other side of the coin, I suspect that absent the practical realities of the difficulty in managing an armed population, seismic shifts would happen almost overnight here in the U.S..  I sense that there is a lot of tension built up within the system with people on the anti-gun side chomping at the bit do so some things they wish to do but cannot.  And that this s the driving force behind the debate.


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March 06, 2019, 03:37:22 AM
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In an ideal world guns should only be available to hunters and law enforcement.

Problem is corruption in governments allows weapons to be leaked out into society as well.

So what do u do?

I’ll agree with you guns should not be available to the public, there’s no need for guns to be openly sold to the public. If you see all the mass murders that took place in USA, those maniacs brought it freely and then executed hell upon innocent victims. I wish they introduce a mental fitness test to determine if a person should be given that gun or not, that would save so many people from being killed.
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March 06, 2019, 07:40:33 AM
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I'd rather have them go after illegal firearms and other criminals than take the guns of law-abiding citizens. I think they should put some extra steps on procurement though. From what I see in the news, it's possible to just walk into a Walmart and buy one.
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March 06, 2019, 02:51:13 PM
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In an ideal world guns should only be available to hunters and law enforcement.

Problem is corruption in governments allows weapons to be leaked out into society as well.

So what do u do?

I’ll agree with you guns should not be available to the public, there’s no need for guns to be openly sold to the public. If you see all the mass murders that took place in USA, those maniacs brought it freely and then executed hell upon innocent victims. I wish they introduce a mental fitness test to determine if a person should be given that gun or not, that would save so many people from being killed.

Being a slave to people who want to use government and legalities to enslave you is good, right? Especially when they use whips on you because you don't have any guns to defend yourself, right?

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March 06, 2019, 03:19:30 PM
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Seems that lawmakers can be rather down to earth at times... like the below.


House approves bill to allow loaded guns inside cars on school campuses



Calling it a matter of constitutional rights, the House of Representatives voted to allow parents and others to drive onto school campuses with loaded weapons in their cars.

The 31-27 party-line vote for HB2693 in the Republican-controlled chamber came amid pleas from some lawmakers, who said they feel safer for themselves and their children when dropping them off and picking them up. Rep. Regina Cobb, R-Kingman, said she can attest to that based on personal experience.

“I know that if others have felt that, where you felt harassment or you felt that others were going to violate their order of protection – you wanted to be able to protect yourself,” she said. “I was also that person that was dropping my kids off at school every day.”

Cobb pointed out that current law allows guns in vehicles on campus, but only if they’re not loaded.

“I would not have wanted to stop a block away, unload my gun, go on to the school grounds and then come back and reload it again,” she said. “Using guns for most of my life, I know that’s when accidents happen.”


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