Polish-registered recyclix.com is a Ponzi scheme and provably so.

[suchmoon]

An open day they keep reminding people is only to be attended by those who have been selected.

Wait, what? They are selecting the participants for the open days? So basically they don't even need to rent a factory-like building for a few days. Just buy a bunch of "selected" puppet accounts on facebook to brag about it.

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[aiub]

Hello guys. I have read this topic and understood that recyclix.com are advanced Ponzi. But I have already sent to them 100 EUR (2016-08-16). So I have 120 EUR on my deposit and 600 kg of waste I'm just asking what I can do?  Better sell waste after 1 cycle (35 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 16.80 = 106.80) and lose money, or after 3 cycle (105 days) (Selling price € 90.00 + Gross profit € 50.40 = 140.40) with profit. What do you think? And how long they will pay money before they will escape? Thank you     

You don't need to use SELL function, if you dont need your money back, Sorry, but you did not understood how recyclix works. If you sent 100€ after 1 cycle you can return back only 75% of your capital with 3 weeks profit. It's 106€ - 25% = you got 79,5€, so, you need to calculate how much cycles you need to restart,  recyclix is long-time-term system is not HYIP, and not REVSHARE. 1 recycling cycle process 35 days. After 1 cycle you got + 14€ profit. If you wanna return your money you need to complete almost 4 cycles (it's 107,64€ - that you can withdraw) .  So if you don't like that recyclix conditions, take back your 79,5€ and go where you can grow up your money faster.

and now you're even giving out fake information: I've read and re-read the terms and conditions on that website, and they do not pay out 100%-25% if you sell after 1 cycle, they'll pay out 25% of whatever profit you've reached, in that case, he had 120 euros, not 100, as he sent 100 and got the 20 for free, in 35 days, or 5 weeks, he'd have 360x25%, which is 90 euros, plus 120x14%, which is 16.8, his math is completely right, and since he sent them 100, taking 106.8 is already little profit.

your math is all out, as he'd have, in 3 weeks, 240x25%, which equals to 60 and not 79.5, plus 7.2 (from the first 6% you get after 3 weeks, according to the website)...

lol are you seriously too dumb to understand to like exsample I calculated from 100€ ?

I know you've calculated from 100, but if he invested 100, he has 120 on investments, if you're such a loyal user of the system you should've taken that into account.

[cryptodevil]

Time for an update!

As many of you know the 'open day' invitation-only event for this scam is being held for the next three days, whereupon the name of the supposed McDonald's contractor they have signed a sub-contract with, will be revealed.

I have absolutely no doubt this will turn out to be equally as much stinky bullshit as the original claim itself. Still, we will have to wait and see how the criminals behind this scam plan to spin this lie.

In the meantime, I was reminded today of a 'payment proof' post made by a recyclix shill last year, which actually showed a hotmail address the payment 'from Recyclix' was being made from. A few short internet searches later and I've made some interesting discoveries!

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Recyclix-Recyclixcom-t493509.html&st=30&p=1109292008#entry1109292008

This email address connects him to a Columbian bitcoin exchange he and his accomplice set up:
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/colbitex-colombias-first-bitcoin-exchange-released-in-testnet/

Roman Parra possesses a particular set of skills which show him and his accomplice, Carlos Mesa, to be well suited to the requirements of running and marketing an online industrial-process-based ponzi scam, such as Recyclix. What better way to launder all the bitcoin they are 'earning' than through your own bitcoin exchange! (Also a *great* way to later implement a scam whereby you can steal your exchange's customer bitcoins, too!)

But wait, what's this?. . .oh no! The exchange got shut down!

https://steemit.com/money/@kasper/in-colombia-the-first-cryptocurrency-exchange-market-is-closed-by-the-controller

Now, I'm wondering if the domain registrant details for this exchange are as fake as the "Aleksandr Suranovas" used for the Recyclix.com registration. As has been pointed out, Recyclix's own Polish-language pages are for shit and clearly not written by a native Polish-speaker, which is odd, considering they're supposed to be a Polish operation.

Maybe McDonald's who are currently investigating what the fuck Recyclix are doing to their beloved brand name, might want to point their lawyers towards the above information. Just a suggestion.

Roman Parra and Carlos Mesa are proven to be the fraudsters behind the Recyclix ponzi 'investment' scam. So when it collapses, which I imagine won't be too much longer given the 'McDonalds' fumble, all you 'investors' will know who to pursue!

You're very welcome!


[edit]
p.s. Connecting from that hotmail address through to other documents he, Roman Parra, posted online before getting involved in bitcoin-based scams, shows up a number of other dormant and active operations, including some posted here on our very own bitcointalk forum! This means they have forum accounts here and, as a result, admin knows their IP address unless they've been particularly well-disciplined in that regards. I'll write more about the forum accounts and other dodgy schemes in due course. See if you can find them before I post their details!

[cryptodevil]

Oh I just can't help myself and I know the Recyclix shills and fanbois will be desperately claiming there isn't a connection so, here, let me show you the path from roman_parra@hotmail.com Recyclix ponzi scammer through to Roman Parra, supposed respectable Bitcoin entrepreneur.

First, let's remind ourselves of the information revealed by the Recyclix payment back in their early days before they got their shit together:

As you can see they had to process fiat payments through their existing payment processor account, which was registered to a company called 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda' for which online searches show a history of fraudulent behaviour. This is where we first meet 'Roman Parra' by way of his hotmail address linked to that payment account.

So, now we've objectively established that the company behind Recyclix is 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda', let's see what information can be found about it:

As you can see, it is classed as a small promotions and advertising company.

But who is running the show there?

Oh look! It appears that a gentleman called, 'Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales' is the full name of the registered manager for this criminal enterprise.


Now, let's set about connecting the scammer Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales, who owns the email account roman_parra@hotmail.com to the supposedly respectable Roman Parra, bitcoin entrepreneur.

Prior to becoming the thieving douchebag he would later choose to be, a young Roman Parra attended University and studied Industrial Production and Engineering. He wrote a detailed thesis on the subject, in Spanish naturally, but we are not particularly interested in the content of this thesis, just the name and email address of the student named as its author:

Roman Parra Gonzales wrote this thesis and, as you see, his email address is the very same roman_parra@hotmail.com who would later go on to become the fraudster douchebag behind many online scams.

This is a linkedin page the supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra has:

His 'legitimate' business interests are listed there, such as Colbitex, Bitcoin Suramerica and Woodshares, which shares remarkably similar characteristics to the enviro-friendly Recyclix scam as you 'invest' in trees, you know, for the environment! Roman Parra knows his shit when it comes to yanking people's chains about the environment and persuading them to part with their hard-earned cash on the promise of bigger returns, later.

His Twitter account also lists his CEO and Founder status of these companies:

Handily enough, it also shows he has another name after the 'Parra' beginning with 'G' and I'm betting big that is stands for, 'Gonzales'.

Ok, so now we have the 'CEO and Founder' of these supposedly legitimate bitcoin companies with the name 'Roman Parra Gonzales', anybody want to bet there's an 'Eduardo' in there, too?

But let's take a look at the rest of his linkedin page:

How interesting! The supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra studied Industrial Production and Engineering, as well as training as a Marketing Specialist. Remember that C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda is listed as an advertising and promotions company? My, how the young engineering student has grown!

Funny how he fails to mention being manager of C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda in the list of companies in his linkedin profile.

It seems it is still active in various scams and can be found mentioned in places such as ScamGuard!
https://www.scamguard.com/million-wishescom/?page=2

Just goes to show, once a scamming douchebag, always a scamming douchebag.

Now, about those bitcointalk accounts and threads he created to promote his 'legitimate' operations. . .

[suchmoon]

CD, if you post the bitcointalk accounts you'll be doxing them and the dox will get moved out of google's view. Just sayin'.

[cryptodevil]

CD, if you post the bitcointalk accounts you'll be doxing them and the dox will get moved out of google's view. Just sayin'.

Yeah, I thought so too, that's what the '...' is for, so people can find them on their own.

[suchmoon]

CD, if you post the bitcointalk accounts you'll be doxing them and the dox will get moved out of google's view. Just sayin'.

Yeah, I thought so too, that's what the '...' is for, so people can find them on their own.

Or maybe you can post the "Bitcointalk account dox" on the Investigations board and leave this "Recyclix.com dox" here, that might work. The rules are still a bit green on this I think.

recyclix.com scam

No shit, Sherlock 

[ReaLm85]

Take a look live open days https://goo.gl/2Bl2as

[ompul]

I like dancing forklift trucks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJnroiWrjyU Witch such organization of manufacturing process and a few people doing just some chaotic segregation, factory can earn even 158% in one week and share profits with hundreds investors worldwide 

[cryptodevil]

Tick Tock Roman Parra!

Time to goooooo
Time to goooooo
Time to goooooo /self-indulgent Pink Floyd reference

The net is closing in:
http://behindmlm.com/companies/recyclix-suspension-ordered-by-italian-securities-regulator/#more-31790

[talmage]

Let's try to fight against these new affirmations:

1)The Consob (that you should know before talking about it) is an Italian Organization that stated ONLY two things:
- Recyclix has not given to Consob a prospectus about the supposed finantial investment to them before offering their services to italian customers
- Recyclix result not to be on a list of cases on which this could even not be done
Then after a Goverment Organization Full Check results only that some formal documents has not been given by them.
2)The payment from Roman Parra is false because for Paypal payment there is a fee commission of 3.5% applied at the beginning (not at the end) whereas we have a 6.15% fee on the payment applied at the end of the payment you are posting here. Can't Recyclix have used at the beginning Roman Parra Exchange Service to transfer the money (as also normal people did)?
3)Actually Payments from Paypal are being payed by Agribest OU, why don't you find more about this instead of looking for 1 year ago payments?
4)Everyone can watch the Open Days and everyone can see that all that they prepared cost so much and can't be prepared artificially.
5)The Open Days people have been selected basically considering the time on which they submitted the request. I know many of them personally and i can see them on the live then you can't say they have organized all even with the people.
6)I know that the Italian Site has not been translated very well too and i don't actually know why the translations aren't very good but this isn't a prove of something.
7)Talking about the Contract with McDonalds they will surely give more informations about that. Just look at this afternoon conference.
8)Do you know the facebook profiles of the people who works in their staff? They are rare to find but they are normal people as everyone with family and so on...reading all this informations about this Medellin company i can only laugh thinking at the Tv Series Narcos because i really think that recyclix and this stuff are not related.

I actually think that some things of Recyclix Operations still have to be understood by i think recyclix can really be legit.

Oh let's add one thing...in the previews statement about Consob decision...it is said that Recyclix.com started in the late of 2015. But the payment from Roman Parra is on June 2015. Then...how is this possible...someone here is making more than a mistake.

[cryptodevil]

...the stench of desperation...

1)

Noting, in fact, that such statements are not substantiated by any documentary source - given that the company, despite the requests of Consob, has refused to provide contract used in customer relations - and also do not appear consistent with that published in the website www .recyclix.com;

Do you know what the bold part tells us? That the company is not co-operating with the Italian authorities and is refusing to provide any paperwork to support their case. If they were legit they'd have swiftly proven so, but they can't because they aren't.

2) Firstly, the money is paid by Roman Parra to the receiver as though the receiver had sold an item to him, hence the "Buyer email" label. Paypal puts a fee on the vendor side of sales, which is how Recyclix made sure to not be liable for transaction fees because their 'investors' were paid as though they were vendors. Secondly Roman Parra didn't have an exchange business at that time. Colbitex.com was only registered as a domain in September.

3) Why are you so concerned about this payment from June 2015 that you want me, instead, to focus on a different payment processor they used later? It isn't as if somebody just made up the payment details. Alternative Trade Ltda is flagged online as a scam operation already and given that this payment is from the early days it is usually when scammers make mistakes because they don't envisage the operation becoming as big as this one has and in their greed they don't consider the electronic trail they are leaving behind. BTW considering that they are supposedly a Polish operation, why would they have used a Colombian company to make their Paypal payments?

4) Do you know what Roman Parra is qualified as, apart from being an industrial process engineer? He is a marketing specialist and you cannot deny that Recyclix are *real* fucking good at marketing themselves. As for claiming they can't have set up these open days, you clearly know nothing about corporate events, which is all this is. Throw a bunch of money at something you use to promote your business and make much much more back in return. That's the purpose of these open days.

5) Which leads me to this point which, again, ignores the simple fact that they make so much money from this scam they can easily afford to slip some money to a recycling plant to let them put up some banners and show some people around. Hell, they could easily afford to buy the damn thing given the fact that there has been NO MONEY IN PLASTICS RECYCLING for years since the oil price tumbled.

6) What is this comment even for about the Italian translation? You are in denial.

7) Oh I am just waiting to hear which bullshit excuse they come up with to explain why we won't learn the name of this supposed McDonald's contractor they are sub-contracted to. Because you *do* know they can't possibly name a company because McDonald's are absolutely adamant they have no relationship with Recyclix, contrary to Recyclix's bullshit claims.

8)Do you know that if Bernie Madoff's ponzi operation were running today many of the staff who worked for him would have facebook profiles and normal family lives, too?

[ompul]

They hired woman from Latvian Ministry of Environmental Protection to make a speech.  Nice move.  Bad news is that they collect copies of ID's/passports from their "investors". Think why.
And this factory they showed today (and first one that seemed to be really functional)  is factory of www.eko-recykling.com.pl (they called them partner).

[cryptodevil]

Bad news is that they collect copies of ID's/passports from their "investors". Think why.

I can think why:
https://www.scamguard.com/million-wishescom/?page=2

And this factory they showed today (and first one that seemed to be really functional)  is factory of www.eko-recykling.com.pl (they called them partner).

Wow they really don't care anymore if they're relying on bullshit about 'partner' factories to pretend like they are a legit recycling company.

BTW, it seems McDonald's lawyers have had words:

Their "Summer Update" news page, which originally had this text:

Now it’s time to pass on to the news about the business growth that Recyclix experienced over the last month. Waste recycling became a really important issue in Europe since the EU government signed laws that prohibit proliferation of landfills and seek to put burial and burning of plastic waste to an end by 2020.

This July Recyclix made yet another important step towards making this goal a reality. We have signed an important long-term contract with the Dutch department of McDonalds for collecting of plastic packaging and its further recycling at our plants. Apart from helping clean the world from harmful plastic waste, which otherwise might have ended up at landfills, this business deal makes us one step closer to becoming the Europe’s biggest recycling company that processes almost 2800 tons of plastic waste every month and keeps growing at an extremely rapid rate.

Another crucially important thing that we would like to share with you today is the commencement of construction of a new massive waste processing plant in the Polish city of Łobez. In 12 months — when the construction works will be over and the plant will be up and running — it will produce over 2000 tons monthly of LDPE, PE and PP granules that will be used by dozens of European businesses to make high-quality and eco-friendly goods for thousands of people all around the world.

Now doesn't show the paragraph about Micky D's:
https://recyclix.com/news/open-days-in-polland-summer-update

Now it’s time to pass on to the news about the business growth that Recyclix experienced over the last month. Waste recycling became a really important issue in Europe since the EU government signed laws that prohibit proliferation of landfills and seek to put burial and burning of plastic waste to an end by 2020.

Another crucially important thing that we would like to share with you today is the commencement of construction of a new massive waste processing plant in the Polish city of Łobez. In 12 months — when the construction works will be over and the plant will be up and running — it will produce over 2000 tons monthly of LDPE, PE and PP granules that will be used by dozens of European businesses to make high-quality and eco-friendly goods for thousands of people all around the world.

So, for any Recyclix fanbois from facebook who might be reading, you should probably mention something to your fellow investors victims. You were lied to.

For any Recyclix lawyers reading this, you need to do something about all the 'fan pages' of copy-pasta blogs used for gaining reflink clicks, because plenty of them still have the McDonald's paragraph on them and are going to be drawing more gullible people in on the back of that copy-pasted lie. You know, the claim your clients made which has been proven to be the complete and utter bollocks it always was.

[cryptodevil]

3)Actually Payments from Paypal are being payed by Agribest OU, why don't you find more about this instead of looking for 1 year ago payments?

You know what? I just did. Funny thing is how the payment from 'Agribest OU' an Estonian company is being made from a Colombian domain's email account that has a different spelling, 'agribeste.co'.

So we're still looking in Roman Parra's direction for this scam.

7)Talking about the Contract with McDonalds they will surely give more informations about that. Just look at this afternoon conference.

Yeah that point didn't work out well for you, either.

[Borgminer]

can anyone explain the videos made at a recycling facility(with recyclix signs) ? or is the company real and the site a fraud ?   but then can anyone explain the cameras posted on their new facility being made ?

[Borgminer]

You dont have any clues these "numbers" are real or not real, and plastic recycle are real or not real,

I don't need to think if the numbers on the screen are real or not real when the claimed business underlying them cannot possibly be making the amount of profit needed to offer their 'investors' the high returns they do.

Plastics recycling across the world is struggling to survive due to the slump in oil prices. None of them are making anything like the sort of income from it that Recyclix would have to be making.

Therefore the *only* way for them to be structured and offer the claimed returns that they do, is as a ponzi scheme.

Most plastic containers have a triangle with a number and abbreviation to tell you what grade of plastic they are made from. This makes separation for recycling easier. Post consumer plastics if cleaned and shredded and in some cases baled are worth from $50 – $480 per ton. HDPE is one of the most sought after it’s used in most of the consumer products we buy from disposable oil containers to car bumpers. With the current oil crunch the value of this material is only going to increase.

[cryptodevil]

You're an idiot.

Two back-to-back posts which contribute nothing to this discussion. Try actually reading the thread instead of posting vapid nonsense.

The low price of oil means it is cheaper to produce high-quality plastic from petrochemical precursors than to collect, sort, clean and grind plastic waste to recycle for pellets of variable quality.

[Borgminer]

You're an idiot.

Two back-to-back posts which contribute nothing to this discussion. Try actually reading the thread instead of posting vapid nonsense.

The low price of oil means it is cheaper to produce high-quality plastic from petrochemical precursors than to collect, sort, clean and grind plastic waste to recycle for pellets of variable quality.

what the fuck are you crying about . the first post was a question you dumb fuck . the second post was in regards to profits .   learn to read and comprehend you fucking idiot

[ompul]

  but then can anyone explain the cameras posted on their new facility being made ?

Yeah. I can. New facility is build by ECO REVOLUTION POLSKA (capital about 230000 EUR ) CEO is Mikhail Chuzhaikin. And owner of some other low capital LTD companies (about 1000 EUR each) created 2014-2015.

KONLI
EKOPLASTIX
POLINNTEX

But all of ECO REVOLUTION POLSKA shares belongs to Sivaks Aleksandrs ( read opinions about his business in Latvia: http://www.sudzibas.lv/sia-eurto-concord-aleksandrs-sivaks-aleksandrs-sivaks-c9325 ). And they know Recyclix.

POLLINTEX were trying before to put the factory in 2 other locations but local people protested, company did not deliver enviromental assesment documents nor tender guarantee (article in polish: http://tygodnikkrag.pl/index.php/kozuchow2/item/1032-polinntex-ucieka-ze-strefy ). In Lobez they somehow succeed to get permission.