[ANN] Bitcoin Foundation

[paraipan]

The Andresen Foundation for Bitcoin Development

I kinda like this one, lol seriously!

Yeah me too.

Nice one

[Yankee (BitInstant)]

The Andresen Foundation for Bitcoin Development

I kinda like this one, lol seriously!

Yeah me too.

Nice one

If you guys were all members of the foundation...we could all vote and make this change 

[paraipan]

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If you guys were all members of the foundation...we could all vote and make this change  

What personal info do I need to provide to make that happen?

[helloworld]

The Andresen Foundation for Bitcoin Development

I kinda like this one, lol seriously!

Yeah me too.

Nice one

+1

That's the kind of name one might say "Why didn't anyone think of that before?".
Like 44 pages ago.

[Polvos]

The Andresen Foundation for Bitcoin Development

Yeah, that name is a good one

EDIT: Now all claim here: Hackers, please, stop the DDOS attack because the Foundation team have to change their web tittle. LOL

[hazek]

The Andresen Foundation for Bitcoin Development

I kinda like this one, lol seriously!

Yeah me too.

Nice one

If you guys were all members of the foundation...we could all vote and make this change 

I know you meant this purely humorously but on a serious note I could never join an organization which it's core properties betray my core principles I try to live by. It's the same reason why I don't vote when small gangs of thugs commonly referred to as governments hold their charade elections.

But I'll join the second those properties are removed because I do see a lot of possible good that it can do.

[WikileaksDude]

The Andresen Foundation for Bitcoin Development

Yeah, that name is a good one

EDIT: Now all claim here: Hackers, please, stop the DDOS attack because the Foundation team have to change their web tittle. LOL

Same here.

[Polvos]

The Andresen Foundation for Bitcoin Development

Yeah, that name is a good one

EDIT: Now all claim here: Hackers, please, stop the DDOS attack because the Foundation team have to change their web tittle. LOL

Same here.

Dude, I was trying to be sarcastic. The name is only one and not the worst of the problems i see in the Foundation. I, in no way, am going to support or participate in this lobbystic, centralized, honeypot foundation.

Look, I found another good name : "THE lobbystic, centralized and honeypot Bitcoin foundation"

[Xenland]

Website is down, I think?

[bg002h]

Website is down, I think?

Think so:
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/Bitcoinfoundation.org

[JeromeS]

OK, I only read the first 10 pages and all the good stuff has already been said, but I want to add a few things.

For the last month I have been trying to learn as much as possible about the bitcoin protocol and tools like bitcoind, trying to see different ways to automate payments and stuff for a small project I'm working on.

and more than once I notice a glaringly obvious and very simple feature that should've been in bitcoind but isn't there, and I immediately think that the only explanation for this must be that there is a very small number of developers working on it with no competing projects and/or enough control over the userbase that they don't have to worry about it, and that they just decided they don't want to add it (I hope the reason is something benign like laziness, busy-ness, or incompetence, I'm not paying them so I don't really have the right to demand anything)

Now, I'm still new here, but when one of the developers (sole/lead developer?) announces a project to "standardize" things without giving any further explanation, I don't see that as a good thing. I think the only kind of standardization I can expect from that project is "the users don't need / shouldn't be able to do that, throw it out".

Also, adding someone as a founding member of an organization they didn't found is ridiculous and a cheap way to gain legitimacy, especially when you know that person won't reappear just to say no thanks.


"You can't kill an idea, but you can corrupt it."

[DublinBrian]

To promote transparency and enforce fair voting procedures, we require a real name and address for Individual members. We will eventually include address and name verification procedures. Please note that member dues paid to records that do not include a real name and mailable address will not be refunded. Thank you!

Why address?

Prevention of double voting can be accomplished using name ID only. There is no need for the foundation to have my home address.

Passports and many national ID cards do not have address on them, so you would need to obtain utility bills for proof of address creating an unnecessary paperwork burden.

I would be happy to verify my name using passport but I will not be supplying my home address. I hope the Foundation could reconsider removing the address requirement from individual membership.

[Atlas]

To promote transparency and enforce fair voting procedures, we require a real name and address for Individual members. We will eventually include address and name verification procedures. Please note that member dues paid to records that do not include a real name and mailable address will not be refunded. Thank you!

Why address?

Prevention of double voting can be accomplished using name ID only. There is no need for the foundation to have my home address.

Passports and many national ID cards do not have address on them, so you would need to obtain utility bills for proof of address creating an unnecessary paperwork burden.

I would be happy to verify my name using passport but I will not be supplying my home address. I hope the Foundation could reconsider removing the address requirement from individual membership.

If we are ever going to be accepted by the mainstream establishment, we need to conform with the regulations governing it. It is time Bitcoin grew up and started playing by the rules.

In the meantime, we will be making sure the long-arm of government can reach our Bitcoin donations and donations everywhere. For tax and legal purposes. We need to cooperate with authorities if we are going anywhere. Bitcoin will have to be a complementary currency to what is already legitimately out there.

The Bitcoin Foundation: Bringing Social Responsibility and Governance to Bitcoin

Sponsored by The Federal Reserve Bank

[ShadowOfHarbringer]

To promote transparency and enforce fair voting procedures, we require a real name and address for Individual members. We will eventually include address and name verification procedures. Please note that member dues paid to records that do not include a real name and mailable address will not be refunded. Thank you!

Why address?

Prevention of double voting can be accomplished using name ID only. There is no need for the foundation to have my home address.

Passports and many national ID cards do not have address on them, so you would need to obtain utility bills for proof of address creating an unnecessary paperwork burden.

I would be happy to verify my name using passport but I will not be supplying my home address. I hope the Foundation could reconsider removing the address requirement from individual membership.

This is actually concerning.
Why would the foundation need anything else than my PGP signature confirmed with my Forum account ?

I am never registering as a member then.

What about all the people who contribute to Bitcoin project but would like to stay anonymous ?

[Luke-Jr]

Prevention of double voting can be accomplished using name ID only.

It is perfectly legal in some States, including every member of the United States (per US Constitution), to have multiple legal names, and in some cases multiple IDs for each of those. Using an address to overcome this, however, may not be the best solution, since many people have multiple homes.

[hazek]

Prevention of double voting can be accomplished using name ID only.

It is perfectly legal in some States, including every member of the United States (per US Constitution), to have multiple legal names, and in some cases multiple IDs for each of those. Using an address to overcome this, however, may not be the best solution, since many people have multiple homes.

Photos associated with each member checked by facial recognition software for multiple entry is the best and most anonymous way of solving the double voting problem. This way all a member has to give up is his photo, no name, no address, no nothing, and they can't sing up twice.

[Polvos]

To promote transparency and enforce fair voting procedures, we require a real name and address for Individual members. We will eventually include address and name verification procedures. Please note that member dues paid to records that do not include a real name and mailable address will not be refunded. Thank you!

Why address?

Didn't you ever hear the standard answer for your question?

"For your own security"

[DublinBrian]

It is perfectly legal in some States, including every member of the United States (per US Constitution), to have multiple legal names, and in some cases multiple IDs for each of those. Using an address to overcome this, however, may not be the best solution, since many people have multiple homes.

If someone submits two membership applications with different names, then both IDs will still have the same Date of Birth and photo. The foundation can easily prevent double voting by checking any matching DoB to make sure the photos are not the same person.

Using home address as the second unique identifier is not required. Nor is it a good way of identifying people. There are many cases of people being wrongfully arrested because they shared an address with someone else.

[ShadowOfHarbringer]

To promote transparency and enforce fair voting procedures, we require a real name and address for Individual members. We will eventually include address and name verification procedures. Please note that member dues paid to records that do not include a real name and mailable address will not be refunded. Thank you!

Why address?

Prevention of double voting can be accomplished using name ID only. There is no need for the foundation to have my home address.

Passports and many national ID cards do not have address on them, so you would need to obtain utility bills for proof of address creating an unnecessary paperwork burden.

I would be happy to verify my name using passport but I will not be supplying my home address. I hope the Foundation could reconsider removing the address requirement from individual membership.

It would be very unwise to hand over your home address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/6/atfs-latest-gun-grab/

This is dangerous and foolhardy.

Yeah, it's like giving FED/CIA/FBI/MAFIAA all data necessary to imprison all dissidents on a plate (in case they would declare Bitcoin illegal). I do not like this.

This actually works like a honeypot. I wouldn't be surprised if, in case of data leakage (which is quite probable), FBI automatically wiretapped all people on the list...

Shouldn't there be an option of confirming one's Identity in-person ? For example by meeting one of "core members" in a public place ?

This is totally a serious issue, jokes & trolling aside.

[niko]

To promote transparency and enforce fair voting procedures, we require a real name and address for Individual members. We will eventually include address and name verification procedures. Please note that member dues paid to records that do not include a real name and mailable address will not be refunded. Thank you!

Why address?

Prevention of double voting can be accomplished using name ID only. There is no need for the foundation to have my home address.

Passports and many national ID cards do not have address on them, so you would need to obtain utility bills for proof of address creating an unnecessary paperwork burden.

I would be happy to verify my name using passport but I will not be supplying my home address. I hope the Foundation could reconsider removing the address requirement from individual membership.

It would be very unwise to hand over your home address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/6/atfs-latest-gun-grab/

This is dangerous and foolhardy.

Yeah, it's like giving FED/CIA/FBI/MAFIAA all data necessary to imprison all dissidents on a plate (in case they would declare Bitcoin illegal). I do not like this.

This actually works like a honeypot. I wouldn't be surprised if, in case of data leakage (which is quite probable), FBI automatically wiretapped all people on the list...

Shouldn't there be an option of confirming one's Identity in-person ? For example by meeting one of "core members" in a public place ?

This is totally a serious issue, jokes & trolling aside.

 
Sometimes, reading this forum makes me believe the stupidity that there are actually two sides to choose from, and that I should be working for the CIA, FBI, and the BTF.
 
This forum is a honeypot, and should remain a honeypot, for paranoid narcissists, instant experts, know-it-all pundits, wannabe criminals, and delusional losers.