Up Like Trump

[RoomBot]

The so-called "TWO-Party System" is perfectly designed to divide & conquer the masses, pitting Demo-Crips against Re-Blood-licans and "right" against "left."

Looks like you fell right into their trap,

when we should all be uniting against this massive corruption.

No, I did not.  Indeed, the ACA was primarily a Republican cronyist invention.  The Dems mostly slathered on a helping of totalitarianism and state sponsored extortion at the end.  I'm perfectly aware of this.

All I am saying is that you are whining and crying about the fall-out which is directly associated and anticipated from what was an obviously flawed system in the first place.  Worse, you and DKOS and the rest of the Leftist dumb-fucks are trying like crazy to make it into some sort of a identity politics thing which only confuses and aggravates the problem making a solution which works for the peeps even less likely, and I doubt very much that this is an accident.  

It's you who've fallen into the trap my friend.

Ad hominem attack.....* YAWN *   

[tvbcof]

... Worse, you and DKOS and the rest of the Leftist dumb-fucks are trying like crazy to make it into some sort of a identity politics thing ...

Ad hominem attack.....* YAWN *   

Ah, did I huwt you feewings? Poor widdle snowflake.

[RoomBot]

... Worse, you and DKOS and the rest of the Leftist dumb-fucks are trying like crazy to make it into some sort of a identity politics thing ...

Ad hominem attack.....* YAWN *   

Ah, did I huwt you feewings? Poor widdle snowflake.

Q.E.D.

[tvbcof]

... Worse, you and DKOS and the rest of the Leftist dumb-fucks are trying like crazy to make it into some sort of a identity politics thing ...

Ad hominem attack.....* YAWN *   

Ah, did I huwt you feewings? Poor widdle snowflake.

Q.E.D.

You ad-hominem'd (and victimized) me by accusing me of an ad-hominem.  I think I'm going to cry   (That should verify my former-Leftist bona-fides for ya.)

[RoomBot]

IGNORED.

[criptix]

IGNORED.

Na tvbcof has just a distorted view of reality.
Everyone who doesnt share his worldview is a leftist sjw.

Classical fashist much?

The irony here is though that you are actually complaining about the left (and the right - like a sane person who follows US politics would do).

[tvbcof]

IGNORED.

Na tvbcof has just a distorted view of reality.
Everyone who doesnt share his worldview is a leftist sjw.

Classical fashist much?

The irony here is though that you are actually complaining about the left (and the right - like a sane person who follows US politics would do).

I define 'fascist' in much the same way that Mussolini did...and he was kind of a master:

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
― Benito Mussolini

I think that people mistakenly use the term 'Fascism' when they really mean Totalitarianism (which, BTW, I am above all else against.)  The reason why is that Fascism and most forms of Collectivism (esp, Communism) rapidly go that way and tend to start out that way from the get-go.  Neither can exist without Totalitarianism.  Capitalism tends to devolve into Cronyism which is something that also vexes the other major political systems...and just about anything else that humans do.

You (Criptix) may be right that I assume SJW-ism more broadly than I should.  I'll try to be mindful of it.

I will say that I strongly sense that a lot of the SJW types are being sold a pig in a poke vis-a-vis 'Communism' which they've been conditioned for all of their lives (as have I as a 50 yo American public school victim as I look back on things.)  Those sponsoring the SJW movement and the promises of Socialism/Communism are very cynically not at all Socialist or Communist' themselves and have no intention of going there.  In fact they are not far from Mussolini's Fascism.  The modern Chinese 'Communist' system most closely approximates what they are shooting for and it most closely maps to a form of neo-Feudalism.  Capitalism for the few in leadership and totalitarian quasi-communism for everyone else.

[Russelmain]

The recent actions of donald tramp with the removal of the head of the FBI from his post are very surprising, especially surprising after this person announced the election fraud and interference from them to Russia. Does this all make sense?

[stompix]

Does this all make sense?

Of course it does, if Donald would have done something that he promised two months ago that would be the big news.

Right now he is just flip-flopping.
China bad guy, China best friends, Comey good guy, Comey bad guy.
Drain the swamp, bring the swamp at home or make the swamp home... or Make the Swamp Great Again.

Let's see his response on NK.
Probably "bad" "very bad".

[GreenBits]

IGNORED.

Na tvbcof has just a distorted view of reality.
Everyone who doesnt share his worldview is a leftist sjw.

Classical fashist much?

The irony here is though that you are actually complaining about the left (and the right - like a sane person who follows US politics would do).

I define 'fascist' in much the same way that Mussolini did...and he was kind of a master:

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
― Benito Mussolini

I think that people mistakenly use the term 'Fascism' when they really mean Totalitarianism (which, BTW, I am above all else against.)  The reason why is that Fascism and most forms of Collectivism (esp, Communism) rapidly go that way and tend to start out that way from the get-go.  Neither can exist without Totalitarianism.  Capitalism tends to devolve into Cronyism which is something that also vexes the other major political systems...and just about anything else that humans do.

You (Criptix) may be right that I assume SJW-ism more broadly than I should.  I'll try to be mindful of it.

I will say that I strongly sense that a lot of the SJW types are being sold a pig in a poke vis-a-vis 'Communism' which they've been conditioned for all of their lives (as have I as a 50 yo American public school victim as I look back on things.)  Those sponsoring the SJW movement and the promises of Socialism/Communism are very cynically not at all Socialist or Communist' themselves and have no intention of going there.  In fact they are not far from Mussolini's Fascism.  The modern Chinese 'Communist' system most closely approximates what they are shooting for and it most closely maps to a form of neo-Feudalism.  Capitalism for the few in leadership and totalitarian quasi-communism for everyone else.

You'll find that is very few liberals that will champion all causes blindly. For example, I have a huge bias against transgendered folk, but I'm aware if it and I try to mitigate it when I discuss said population. I grew up in the South, in a Black family. We don't really play that shit, old school black folks, for the record. I don't really think that's a good thing. I really shouldn't give a good goddamned about someone's sexual preferences, the Lord has given them the free will to live their limited life as they see fit. Just because I do not agree with said life, it doesn't invalidate it. I'm one guy with opinions, that don't matter for shit in the grand scheme of things. It's truly meaningless folks. I feel them same about abortion, I don't agree with it. It's murder, plainly, and I dare anyone to challenge that, I will rip you a new asshole with words. But I do believe people should have the choice to fuck up. Women should have the choice, we should all have the ability to live our lives as we see fit. Given that said life is adaptive, I'm not condoning serial killers running around because 'it feels good, man'.

The SJW 'movement' is more a rejection of the seeming 'fuck them' attitude of your party. The primary criticism from leftist of conservatism is that the minority is crushed under the will of the whole,. The secondary critique is that your party cares nothing for the citizen that cannot do for itself.  For those of us with empathy for people other than our own social network, usually as a result of having faced a fucked up sitch personally, it pains us to see people, however fucked up and weird they are, being denied the right to do just that. You should be able to be as your are. Not do what you will, that's a different doctrine, a more sinister one that has no place in my life. But, dammit, you get one of these. At least be able to enjoy it. If you have a dick and want to cut it off, fuck it, I don't care. I start to care when fringe behaviors become normalized, but if it improves the public by preserving the outgroup, and if the outgroup is sizeable.enough, I will begrudgingly submit. Homosexuality for example. Currently in the process of being normalized. Is this good? In my opinion no, our biological function is to reproduce, and propagate. It's all about the DNA. That's a different discussion.

But if normalizing homosexuality means gsy people not getting killed for being gay, not being discriminated against in housing, finances (the heart of the gay marriage debate, from a secular standpoint), then I'm all for it. No one should have to suffer for their beliefs, in this country. And when I have kids, I control what they ingest. If that's not an agenda I want in my house, that's that.

[Spendulus]

IGNORED.

Na tvbcof has just a distorted view of reality.
Everyone who doesnt share his worldview is a leftist sjw.

Classical fashist much?

The irony here is though that you are actually complaining about the left (and the right - like a sane person who follows US politics would do).

I define 'fascist' in much the same way that Mussolini did...and he was kind of a master:

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
― Benito Mussolini

I think that people mistakenly use the term 'Fascism' when they really mean Totalitarianism (which, BTW, I am above all else against.)  The reason why is that Fascism and most forms of Collectivism (esp, Communism) rapidly go that way and tend to start out that way from the get-go.  Neither can exist without Totalitarianism.  Capitalism tends to devolve into Cronyism which is something that also vexes the other major political systems...and just about anything else that humans do.

You (Criptix) may be right that I assume SJW-ism more broadly than I should.  I'll try to be mindful of it.

I will say that I strongly sense that a lot of the SJW types are being sold a pig in a poke vis-a-vis 'Communism' which they've been conditioned for all of their lives (as have I as a 50 yo American public school victim as I look back on things.)  Those sponsoring the SJW movement and the promises of Socialism/Communism are very cynically not at all Socialist or Communist' themselves and have no intention of going there.  In fact they are not far from Mussolini's Fascism.  The modern Chinese 'Communist' system most closely approximates what they are shooting for and it most closely maps to a form of neo-Feudalism.  Capitalism for the few in leadership and totalitarian quasi-communism for everyone else.

You'll find that is very few liberals that will champion all causes blindly. For example, I have a huge bias against transgendered folk, but I'm aware if it and I try to mitigate it when I discuss said population. I grew up in the South, in a Black family. We don't really play that shit, old school black folks, for the record. I don't really think that's a good thing. I really shouldn't give a good goddamned about someone's sexual preferences, the Lord has given them the free will to live their limited life as they see fit. Just because I do not agree with said life, it doesn't invalidate it. I'm one guy with opinions, that don't matter for shit in the grand scheme of things. It's truly meaningless folks. I feel them same about abortion, I don't agree with it. It's murder, plainly, and I dare anyone to challenge that, I will rip you a new asshole with words. But I do believe people should have the choice to fuck up. Women should have the choice, we should all have the ability to live our lives as we see fit. Given that said life is adaptive, I'm not condoning serial killers running around because 'it feels good, man'.

The SJW 'movement' is more a rejection of the seeming 'fuck them' attitude of your party. The primary criticism from leftist of conservatism is that the minority is crushed under the will of the whole,. The secondary critique is that your party cares nothing for the citizen that cannot do for itself.  For those of us with empathy for people other than our own social network, usually as a result of having faced a fucked up sitch personally, it pains us to see people, however fucked up and weird they are, being denied the right to do just that. You should be able to be as your are. Not do what you will, that's a different doctrine, a more sinister one that has no place in my life. But, dammit, you get one of these. At least be able to enjoy it. If you have a dick and want to cut it off, fuck it, I don't care. I start to care when fringe behaviors become normalized, but if it improves the public by preserving the outgroup, and if the outgroup is sizeable.enough, I will begrudgingly submit. Homosexuality for example. Currently in the process of being normalized. Is this good? In my opinion no, our biological function is to reproduce, and propagate. It's all about the DNA. That's a different discussion.

But if normalizing homosexuality means gsy people not getting killed for being gay, not being discriminated against in housing, finances (the heart of the gay marriage debate, from a secular standpoint), then I'm all for it. No one should have to suffer for their beliefs, in this country. And when I have kids, I control what they ingest. If that's not an agenda I want in my house, that's that.

What, you aren't with the prissy namby-pamby metrosexual progressita agenda overlorded by the pink mafia?

[tvbcof]

You'll find that is very few liberals that will champion all causes blindly.

That's the case with me.  I'm the same basic 'classical liberal' that I always was.  Not that some of my views have not changed over the 35-ish years that I've been intellectually active, but the core basis for them have remained quite consistent.  In my analysis and opinion at least.

Frankly, I don't see it in others very much.  Most people I know are afraid from peer pressure and rejection to go against the 'party line.'  I was always more prone than most to call a spade a spade and go against my Liberal peers on certain issues even back in the day.  What I was less willing to do is to really listen to what the 'other side' had to say.  That is where I've really made an improvement, and I think it has really helped me broaden and improve my analytical capabilities.

For example, I have a huge bias against transgendered folk, but I'm aware if it and I try to mitigate it when I discuss said population. I grew up in the South, in a Black family. We don't really play that shit, old school black folks, for the record. I don't really think that's a good thing. I really shouldn't give a good goddamned about someone's sexual preferences, the Lord has given them the free will to live their limited life as they see fit. Just because I do not agree with said life, it doesn't invalidate it. I'm one guy with opinions, that don't matter for shit in the grand scheme of things. It's truly meaningless folks. I feel them same about abortion, I don't agree with it. It's murder, plainly, and I dare anyone to challenge that, I will rip you a new asshole with words. But I do believe people should have the choice to fuck up. Women should have the choice, we should all have the ability to live our lives as we see fit. Given that said life is adaptive, I'm not condoning serial killers running around because 'it feels good, man'.

That, and a little bit of navel-gazing, is all it takes to be absolved of the crime of intolerance (or what the modern SWJ types will often call 'racism' in their characteristically ignorant way.)

One of my main beefs with these types of deviants is that 'we' on the anachro-left fought fairly hard for their rights against the 'religious right' and other reactionaries back in the day.  That battle was basically won and a raft of posers seem to have jumped on the band-wagon to take advantage of the elevated and protected status that we classical liberals never intended.

The SJW 'movement' is more a rejection of the seeming 'fuck them' attitude of your party. The primary criticism from leftist of conservatism is that the minority is crushed under the will of the whole,. The secondary critique is that your party cares nothing for the citizen that cannot do for itself.  For those of us with empathy for people other than our own social network, usually as a result of having faced a fucked up sitch personally, it pains us to see people, however fucked up and weird they are, being denied the right to do just that. You should be able to be as your are. Not do what you will, that's a different doctrine, a more sinister one that has no place in my life. But, dammit, you get one of these. At least be able to enjoy it. If you have a dick and want to cut it off, fuck it, I don't care. I start to care when fringe behaviors become normalized, but if it improves the public by preserving the outgroup, and if the outgroup is sizeable.enough, I will begrudgingly submit. Homosexuality for example. Currently in the process of being normalized. Is this good? In my opinion no, our biological function is to reproduce, and propagate. It's all about the DNA. That's a different discussion.

But if normalizing homosexuality means gsy people not getting killed for being gay, not being discriminated against in housing, finances (the heart of the gay marriage debate, from a secular standpoint), then I'm all for it. No one should have to suffer for their beliefs, in this country. And when I have kids, I control what they ingest. If that's not an agenda I want in my house, that's that.

My beef with the SJW crowd is that I consider them to be pretty much pure phony astro-turf and a product of a collection of scientifically designed schemes which came out of the science of marketing.  Worse still, designed by entities who designed and implanted an end-goal which the designers don't even share.  They are the classic 'useful idiots' mentioned by the Bolsheviks of old, and they've been developed using a more well developed set of tools from the same basic toolkit in a lot of cases.

On an individual level, many of the SJW types seem every bit as cruel and with every bit as much of the aggressive ignorance as we Classical Liberals used to ascribe to the Reactionary Right.

What really gets my goat is that while the shift has been quite profound, it was done just carefully and smoothly enough to drag most of my formerly like-minded friends and family down into the cesspool of ignorance and stupidity.  At least a few of them are starting to bob to the surface and get some gulps of fresh air.

[RoomBot]

The recent actions of donald tramp with the removal of the head of the FBI from his post are very surprising, especially surprising after this person announced the election fraud and interference from them to Russia. Does this all make sense?

It makes PERFECT SENSE:  to all the voices in his head....

[BADecker]

Michael Snyder Is Calling For An Army Of Pro-Trump Activists To Run For Office All Over America

As I have said before, getting Donald Trump elected was the greatest miracle in U.S. political history, but he should not have to wage this battle alone.  Trump has very few friends in Congress at this point, and so it is absolutely critical that we get him some during the 2018 mid-term elections.  So I am calling for an army of pro-Trump activists to run for national, state and local offices all over America in 2018.  Donald Trump started this revolution, and now it is our job to continue it.

My father was in the U.S. Navy, and so sometimes I like to put things in military terms.  When an amphibious invasion is being conducted, it is the troops that hit the beach first that take the most fire.  To me, that is a perfect picture of what is happening to Donald Trump right now.  He has established a beachhead, and now the rest of us need to rush to shore to back him up.

Read more at http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/michael-snyder-is-calling-for-an-army-of-pro-trump-activists-to-run-for-office-all-over-america.

[RoomBot]

The Art of the Deal

[Sithara007]

OK... I just checked the Rasmussen Reports. His support levels are still remaining in the mid 40s, meaning that the firing of Comey hardly had any effect. Increasing the support level from 45 to 50 is going to be a tough task.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_updates/prez_track_may12

[muffinbiller]

No, i have no respect for any person who has revolving spouses. However, I DO think he has the ability to 'fix' the country as a whole. I think he can strengthen the economy, improve the immigration problem, and revitalize a strong national defense and stop them deploying everywhere there's a protest. I do not, however, trust him to care for the people of the country. I think if their lot improves it will be because they have a better framework and not because of any design to help them. They will be teeth on Donald's cogs.I DO think he'll win if Hillary is the Democratic candidate. I DO think we could do MUCH worse! *coughcruzcough* But, we shall see what we shall see.

[RoomBot]

No, i have no respect for any person who has revolving spouses. However, I DO think he has the ability to 'fix' the country as a whole. I think he can strengthen the economy, improve the immigration problem, and revitalize a strong national defense and stop them deploying everywhere there's a protest. I do not, however, trust him to care for the people of the country. I think if their lot improves it will be because they have a better framework and not because of any design to help them. They will be teeth on Donald's cogs.I DO think he'll win if Hillary is the Democratic candidate. I DO think we could do MUCH worse! *coughcruzcough* But, we shall see what we shall see.

WOW AMAZING PREDICTION!!!!!11 

[Spendulus]

The recent actions of donald tramp with the removal of the head of the FBI from his post are very surprising, especially surprising after this person announced the election fraud and interference from them to Russia. Does this all make sense?

It makes PERFECT SENSE:  to all the voices in his head....

It's a good idea to listen to at least one of the voices in your head....

[NY-city]

There was a lot of talk about trying to solve through the court the problem of the fact that the elections were rigged and that the tramp came to power thanks to fraud and other illegal actions. Perhaps the donald tramp has its admirers, but it seems to me not so much that it would be possible to become the leader in the presidential election to America.