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August 21, 2019, 06:15:01 AM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

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Obviously you wouldn't have to pay tax on it if you grew it on your bathroom window...

If you want to sell or buy it commercially, there need to be laws.

Same as alcohol.
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August 21, 2019, 06:44:26 AM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

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I'm with you on the government thing, i'm not fan of them either and i think that taxation is theft. And don't let me get started on that fool Bernie Cheesy

But there is a different issue when it comes to cannabis, and it is there whether you think we should be able to grow our own cannabis or not, and that is amount of money that is spent on so called " war on drugs" that America is loosing all those years.Hundreds of billions of tax payers dollars were spent, with  not much results.And on top of that, people still go to jail because of cannabis possession.

In 2016 almost 600k people ended up in jail for cannabis possession, so whether you think it is your right to use something that is not legalized or not, you will get  screwed if you live in the  wrong state.Recreational use is legalized in 11 states so far, so unless you live there, you won't end up good  if they caught you possessing.Try defending yourself  outside those 11 states with "it is my right" and see how that ends up.

Whole justice system in United States is paralyzed due this failed war on drugs, and only thing that can help it resolve it is legalization.

And to end up all this with a quote from great George Carlin:

"And rights aren’t rights if someone can take ’em away. They’re privileges, that’s all we’ve ever had in this country, is a bill of temporary privileges.Yeah… sooner or later the people in this country gonna realize the government does not give a f**k about them. The government doesn’t care about you, or your children, or your rights, or your welfare, or your safety, it simply doesn’t give a f**k about you. It’s interested in its own power, that’s the only thing, keeping it and expanding it wherever possible."
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August 21, 2019, 10:36:16 AM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

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Obviously you wouldn't have to pay tax on it if you grew it on your bathroom window...

If you want to sell or buy it commercially, there need to be laws.

Same as alcohol.

Actually, if your buddy comes to your house, and you want to sell him your comb, that's a private deal. Government doesn't have anything to do with it. Government might have something to do with the tax on your comb when you bought it at Wallgreens. But that's the extent of it.

Why not alcohol or cannabis?

The ONLY reason is, Government takes you to court. And in court they play a game with you that you can't easily win, because they aren't clear about their game.

Lately people have identified 70 major Supreme Court cases that show that Government doesn't have any right in your house and your private deals. It's called Private Membership Association (PMA). The difference is that the PMA is written so that Government can see formally that your deals are private.

The rest is up to you regarding how intimidated you are going to allow yourself to become.

Internet and Youtube search on Private Membership Association to see that all of this is real stuff that is lawfully being pushed into place by people who are looking for freedom from Govenment PEOPLE who use Government to mess with your private life.

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August 21, 2019, 01:48:33 PM
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Actually, if your buddy comes to your house, and you want to sell him your comb, that's a private deal. Government doesn't have anything to do with it. Government might have something to do with the tax on your comb when you bought it at Wallgreens. But that's the extent of it.

Why not alcohol or cannabis?

The ONLY reason is, Government takes you to court. And in court they play a game with you that you can't easily win, because they aren't clear about their game.

Lately people have identified 70 major Supreme Court cases that show that Government doesn't have any right in your house and your private deals. It's called Private Membership Association (PMA). The difference is that the PMA is written so that Government can see formally that your deals are private.

The rest is up to you regarding how intimidated you are going to allow yourself to become.

Internet and Youtube search on Private Membership Association to see that all of this is real stuff that is lawfully being pushed into place by people who are looking for freedom from Govenment PEOPLE who use Government to mess with your private life.

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All I said was that you wouldn't have to pay tax on weed if you grew it on your bathroom window.   This was in response to this:
Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window?

If you want to sell or buy it commercially, there need to be laws.

Same as alcohol.
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August 21, 2019, 02:58:51 PM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

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prison reform you n00b maybe you don't understand most people are in prison for drugs.. the majority for cannabis. I do agree grow your own! Cool  
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August 21, 2019, 10:12:05 PM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

Cool

I'm with you on the government thing, i'm not fan of them either and i think that taxation is theft. And don't let me get started on that fool Bernie Cheesy

But there is a different issue when it comes to cannabis, and it is there whether you think we should be able to grow our own cannabis or not, and that is amount of money that is spent on so called " war on drugs" that America is loosing all those years.Hundreds of billions of tax payers dollars were spent, with  not much results.And on top of that, people still go to jail because of cannabis possession.

In 2016 almost 600k people ended up in jail for cannabis possession, so whether you think it is your right to use something that is not legalized or not, you will get  screwed if you live in the  wrong state.Recreational use is legalized in 11 states so far, so unless you live there, you won't end up good  if they caught you possessing.Try defending yourself  outside those 11 states with "it is my right" and see how that ends up.....

There are numerous municipalities that have "do not prosecute" policies in effect for some years.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/16/el-paso-marijuana-hemp-prosecution/

https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/02/20/brooklyn-da-prosecution-of-low-level-marijuana-cases-down-98-percent/

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/baltimore-will-no-longer-prosecute-marijuana-possession-cases
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August 22, 2019, 12:18:31 AM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

Cool

prison reform you n00b maybe you don't understand most people are in prison for drugs.. the majority for cannabis. I do agree grow your own! Cool  
yes Bernie is our fuzzy friend lol ha ~cheers

If someone says you owe him a million dollars, and he takes you to court on it, if you aren't smart enough to know how to fight it because you burned your brain out with cannabis, he just might win, and you will be in the squirrel cage working your butt off to pay it back, even though you didn't owe it in the first place.

That's all that is being done with approximately 100% of the no-harm/no-damage cases that people lose to government.

Wake up and learn the law so that you can be free... except if you like being a slave.

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August 22, 2019, 02:01:17 AM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

Cool

prison reform you n00b maybe you don't understand most people are in prison for drugs.. the majority for cannabis. I do agree grow your own! Cool  
yes Bernie is our fuzzy friend lol ha ~cheers

If someone says you owe him a million dollars, and he takes you to court on it, if you aren't smart enough to know how to fight it because you burned your brain out with cannabis, he just might win, and you will be in the squirrel cage working your butt off to pay it back, even though you didn't owe it in the first place.

That's all that is being done with approximately 100% of the no-harm/no-damage cases that people lose to government.

Wake up and learn the law so that you can be free... except if you like being a slave.

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August 22, 2019, 06:40:15 AM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

Cool

I'm with you on the government thing, i'm not fan of them either and i think that taxation is theft. And don't let me get started on that fool Bernie Cheesy

But there is a different issue when it comes to cannabis, and it is there whether you think we should be able to grow our own cannabis or not, and that is amount of money that is spent on so called " war on drugs" that America is loosing all those years.Hundreds of billions of tax payers dollars were spent, with  not much results.And on top of that, people still go to jail because of cannabis possession.

In 2016 almost 600k people ended up in jail for cannabis possession, so whether you think it is your right to use something that is not legalized or not, you will get  screwed if you live in the  wrong state.Recreational use is legalized in 11 states so far, so unless you live there, you won't end up good  if they caught you possessing.Try defending yourself  outside those 11 states with "it is my right" and see how that ends up.....

There are numerous municipalities that have "do not prosecute" policies in effect for some years.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/16/el-paso-marijuana-hemp-prosecution/

https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/02/20/brooklyn-da-prosecution-of-low-level-marijuana-cases-down-98-percent/

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/baltimore-will-no-longer-prosecute-marijuana-possession-cases

Yes, things are slowly changing for the better, and in 20 years we will look at these laws as we look at prohibition.

But another problem here is that all individual cases are up to the prosecutors mostly, so if for example Baltimore gets different prosecutor that has different view on that, things might get bad again, and go in opposite direction.
So much safer way is decriminalisation of cannabis.
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August 22, 2019, 05:21:50 PM
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^^^ Why do you want cannabis legalized?

Do you keep a comb in your pocket to comb your hair? Why would you want government to legalize the comb in your pocket? Get government out of it altogether.

Government doesn't have to legalize something to give you the right to use it. All they have to do is repeal the laws they made against it.

If they legalize it, then they can tax it. Why should you have to pay tax on your own cannabis that you grow in your bathroom window? Bernie wants to screw you, and he has tricked you into thinking that he is your friend.

Cool

I'm with you on the government thing, i'm not fan of them either and i think that taxation is theft. And don't let me get started on that fool Bernie Cheesy

But there is a different issue when it comes to cannabis, and it is there whether you think we should be able to grow our own cannabis or not, and that is amount of money that is spent on so called " war on drugs" that America is loosing all those years.Hundreds of billions of tax payers dollars were spent, with  not much results.And on top of that, people still go to jail because of cannabis possession.

In 2016 almost 600k people ended up in jail for cannabis possession, so whether you think it is your right to use something that is not legalized or not, you will get  screwed if you live in the  wrong state.Recreational use is legalized in 11 states so far, so unless you live there, you won't end up good  if they caught you possessing.Try defending yourself  outside those 11 states with "it is my right" and see how that ends up.....

There are numerous municipalities that have "do not prosecute" policies in effect for some years.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/16/el-paso-marijuana-hemp-prosecution/

https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/02/20/brooklyn-da-prosecution-of-low-level-marijuana-cases-down-98-percent/

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/baltimore-will-no-longer-prosecute-marijuana-possession-cases

Yes, things are slowly changing for the better, and in 20 years we will look at these laws as we look at prohibition.

But another problem here is that all individual cases are up to the prosecutors mostly, so if for example Baltimore gets different prosecutor that has different view on that, things might get bad again, and go in opposite direction.
So much safer way is decriminalisation of cannabis.

But the thing that the people are figuring out is that anyone - a prosecutor, a judge, a governor, a court recorder, a court clerk or the clerk of the courts, members of a jury - can be prosecuted.

If the city prosecutor acts incorrectly in the eyes of a defendant, the defendant can file a non-motion claim right into the court case he is fighting, and turn himself into the prosecutor. How does it work? His claim is the most recent addition, so it has to be answered first.

What would his claim contain? Wording to the effect that the harmed-person-accuser - the one who is accusing him - come forward and prove that it was the defendant who harmed him, so that he can reimburse him for the harm he did to him. After all, basic, standard law is that you have the right to face your accuser. Guess what. Most of the cases have the State or the United States as the accuser. It's right on the indictment. The State/United States are paperwork. They can't take the oath and get on the stand so that they can be cross examined by the accused (who has turned himself from the defendant into the prosecutor by the claim he filed into the proceedings).

People are finding out that if there isn't any claim of harm or damage against them, that there is no reason to admit to breaking some law. And they are finding out that if they are aggressive about it, by filing a claim into the paperwork right from the start, the prosecutor withdraws his indictment. Of course, when the indictment is withdrawn, there is no court record showing a win or loss. When there is no court record because there was no trial, few people realize what really happened, and how the guy won. And the guy is so happy the charges were dropped, that he seldom pursues it to get his money out of the court system.

The fact that some people pursue it is shown in the court cases, often against cops or the medical, where people win $thousands to $millions against government.

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August 23, 2019, 10:00:31 PM
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Yes, things are slowly changing for the better, and in 20 years we will look at these laws as we look at prohibition.

But another problem here is that all individual cases are up to the prosecutors mostly, so if for example Baltimore gets different prosecutor that has different view on that, things might get bad again, and go in opposite direction.
So much safer way is decriminalisation of cannabis.

That's not accurate.

Cannabis extract without THC or with minimal amounts has became a widely available product. Eg "CBD".

Various state laws have been enacted now that require prosecutors to show an illegal %age of THC. Turns out labs don't have equipment to do that. The prosecutors are not just acting on a whim but based on their costs in getting that equipment or outsourcing and paying for those tests.

Prosecuting DAs are part of a self-propagating system that included the courts, the prosecuting and defending attorneys, and all the hapless victims. This system seeks fat profits.  It's really all about the money not the law.

As for the way the law works, there is a federal law which become a "model statute" for the states. In the past if a state did not wish to adopt it or a harsher version of its own, the Fed would punish by withholding various funds.

Today that is not happening, a state is somewhat free to go against the federal MARIHUANA statutes, although not others.
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August 23, 2019, 10:28:22 PM
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This is what Government and the medical are trying to do. And they have enlisted the help of ignorant democrats and liberals around the country. "Offer them freedom as you make slaves of them."


If you can't ban it, steal it: How Big Pharma is trying to gain control of the cannabis industry



About a hundred years ago, marijuana began to be banned in one state after the other, until finally the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 effectively banned its use nationwide. As reported by the New York Times, the reasons for this policy were rooted in "racism and xenophobia," and its "principal effect has been to ruin the lives of generations of people."

Marijuana was not always prohibited or viewed as dangerous in our country. In fact, as far back as the 1830s, early settlers were well aware of its medicinal benefits. The History Channel explains that by the end of the 1800s, Americans could purchase cannabis extracts from their local pharmacies or doctors' offices, and it was commonly used in the treatment of insomnia, stomach pain, migraines, inflammation and other conditions.

In recent years, attitudes towards marijuana use have begun to change, and studies have proved its medicinal value in the treatment of multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, schizophrenia, arthritis, migraines and the side effects of cancer. As the body of evidence supporting the use of medical marijuana has grown, more and more states have legalized its use. As of 2019, 33 states as well as the District of Columbia now legally allow the medical use of marijuana, and more states are likely to follow suit in the next few years.

Although even medical marijuana remains illegal at the federal level, it is generally believed that it is just a matter of time before federal law is changed and it becomes legal nationwide. This provides a massive business opportunity for farmers and end suppliers of this natural medicine.

Of course, the world's biggest industry – Big Pharma – is also well aware of its potential to line their pockets. They are not likely to simply share the bounty with others, however, and will seek to gain complete control of the marijuana industry in the next few years. After all, sales of medical cannabis are projected to reach $5.9 billion this year, and that figure is sure to boom in the coming decades. Big Pharma will never walk away from the opportunity to make that kind of money.

Big Pharma seeks to patent marijuana and steal its profits

As previously reported by Natural News, Big Pharma has already taken steps to try to secure potential medical marijuana profits by patenting it:

There are many indications that Big Pharma is looking to take over the cannabis market. For example, Insys Therapeutics — an opioid manufacturer that's come under fire for their unscrupulous marketing and sales tactics — secured DEA approval for synthetic marijuana in March.

Further, Insys Therapeutics spent $500,000 last summer to fight cannabis legalization in Arizona. Over a nine-year period, the pharma industry as a whole spent $880 million to fight cannabis reform and keep opioids flowing freely. If they actually opposed legalizing marijuana, why are they trying to patent a synthetic? The company doesn't care about cannabis; it cares about protecting their profits
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