Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 19, 2015, 02:49:42 AM |
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Maybe not 32. ... - Re8 but Bd7 (or consolidate with Be6 but we can't afford white to take the initiative), and maybe after 32. .. - Re8 33. Re1
etc, we have a lot to think about, I think. 28. Bd4 gives us a very good chance.
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December 19, 2015, 03:54:33 AM |
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how this game works
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Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 19, 2015, 07:03:21 AM |
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Bd6: 3 votes (XMRpromotions, galdur, ING Bank)
28. ... - Bd4 (one vote: Rolf Uhlhorn) *don't think in exact moves, but in positions combined with the strenght of the pieces/ functionality. The exact moves come in second.
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December 19, 2015, 09:17:01 PM |
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Bd6: 4 votes (XMRpromotions, galdur, ING Bank, languagehasmeaning) Bd4: 1 vote (Rolf Uhlhorn)
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December 19, 2015, 09:38:16 PM |
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Bg4 won't work, i guess. Also after Ne4 in stead of Re8 in former variation, nothing works I think. But I hope you all look at it.
Here we go: 28. ... - Bd4! 29. Re7 - Bxb2 30. Bxf7+ - Qxf7 30. Rxf7 - Kxf7 (not Bxa1). I wished I had a chessboard to start thinking over from this situation.
31. Rb1 (Rd1 no good I think)
That is a very interesting idea but I think white can defend with 31.Rd1 and retain a winning material advantage. 31.Rd1 Bc3 32.Qe3 followed by 33.Ne4 should be winning for white
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boolberry
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December 20, 2015, 12:08:35 AM |
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Bd6: 4 votes (XMRpromotions, galdur, ING Bank, languagehasmeaning) Bd4: 1 vote (Rolf Uhlhorn)
Bd6: 5 votes (XMRpromotions, galdur, ING Bank, languagehasmeaning, boolberry) Bd4: 1 vote (Rolf Uhlhorn)
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December 20, 2015, 12:19:17 AM |
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Bg4 won't work, i guess. Also after Ne4 in stead of Re8 in former variation, nothing works I think. But I hope you all look at it.
Here we go: 28. ... - Bd4! 29. Re7 - Bxb2 30. Bxf7+ - Qxf7 30. Rxf7 - Kxf7 (not Bxa1). I wished I had a chessboard to start thinking over from this situation.
31. Rb1 (Rd1 no good I think)
That is a very interesting idea but I think white can defend with 31.Rd1 and retain a winning material advantage. 31.Rd1 Bc3 32.Qe3 followed by 33.Ne4 should be winning for white Yeah, it´s an interesting idea but black ends up with two bishops and a pawn vs queen and not enough position against this opponent IMHO.
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December 20, 2015, 06:39:21 AM |
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Your move bitcointalk. You have the black pieces The current position is updated below Game 2 (letsplayagame vs bitcointalk): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.f3 Bf5 18.a4 b4 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rfe8 21.Be3 c5 22.Nd2 Rxe3 23.Rxe3 cxd4 24.Ree1 d3 25.c5 Bxc5+ 26.Kh1 Rd8 27.Re5 Bh3 28.Qe1 Bd6 29.Rc1 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2Fvgt10h.jpg&t=665&c=cxVyaM4XMDb6_w)
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December 20, 2015, 07:38:15 AM |
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I was expecting white to play Re3 or Re7. I guess Rc1 should not surprise us after 25.c5 but for some reason I felt like that move was more about freeing the bishop on the diagonal than the rook on the c file.
Bxe5, 1 vote (XMRpromotions)
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December 20, 2015, 10:59:59 AM |
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Bxe5: 2 votes (XMRpromotions, hermesesus)
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December 20, 2015, 11:54:22 AM |
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Bxe5: 3 votes (XMRpromotions, hermesesus, galdur)
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December 20, 2015, 02:56:18 PM |
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I m a loser in this game
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Rolf Uhlhorn
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December 20, 2015, 08:49:52 PM |
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Bxe5: 4 votes (XMRpromotions, hermesesus, galdur, ING Bank)
Bxe5: 5 votes (XMRpromotions, hermesesus, galdur, ING Bank, Rolf Uhlhorn)
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December 21, 2015, 12:09:02 AM |
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Bxe5: 4 votes (XMRpromotions, hermesesus, galdur, ING Bank)
Bxe5: 5 votes (XMRpromotions, hermesesus, galdur, ING Bank, Rolf Uhlhorn) Bxe5: 6 votes (XMRpromotions, hermesesus, galdur, ING Bank, Rolf Uhlhorn, boolberry)
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letsplayagame (OP)
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December 21, 2015, 11:10:35 PM |
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Your move bitcointalk. You have the black pieces The current position is updated below Game 2 (letsplayagame vs bitcointalk): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re1 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Re4 g5 16.Qf1 Qh5 17.f3 Bf5 18.a4 b4 19.c4 Nf6 20.Re1 Rfe8 21.Be3 c5 22.Nd2 Rxe3 23.Rxe3 cxd4 24.Ree1 d3 25.c5 Bxc5+ 26.Kh1 Rd8 27.Re5 Bh3 28.Qe1 Bd6 29.Rc1 Bxe5 30.Qxe5 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2F1zg6dxi.jpg&t=665&c=zE17epjFpL5_Kw)
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December 22, 2015, 12:44:29 AM |
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Qg6: 2 votes (ING Bank, galdur)
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December 22, 2015, 01:26:01 AM |
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Qg6: 2 votes (ING Bank, galdur)
Qg6: 3 votes (ING Bank, galdur, LucyLovesCrypto) If we play Nd7 or Ne8 instead then Qe7 looks really bad for us. Since we can't move our knight we must defend it.
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December 22, 2015, 02:02:00 AM |
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Qg6: 2 votes (ING Bank, galdur)
Qg6: 3 votes (ING Bank, galdur, LucyLovesCrypto) If we play Nd7 or Ne8 instead then Qe7 looks really bad for us. Since we can't move our knight we must defend it. Qg6: 4 votes (ING Bank, galdur, LucyLovesCrypto, languagehasmeaning)
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December 22, 2015, 02:20:04 AM Last edit: December 22, 2015, 02:30:11 AM by languagehasmeaning |
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29.Rc1 essentially ended our attack and we are now headed for an endgame. Our winning chances are over but I think we have excellent chances to draw even after losing a pawn. Here is the best I can see for both sides. Most of the moves below look forced to me. After we play Qg6 our threat of Re8 followed by Re2 is pretty serious. I cannot find any good options for our opponent besides 31.Rc6.
30.Qxe5 Qg6 31.Rc6 Re8 32.Qxe8+ Nxe8 33.Rxg6+ hxg6
Both 34.Bc4 and 34.g4 should give white a small advantage but I think we have excellent chances to draw. I cannot see any other options for us that do not lose on the spot.
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December 22, 2015, 02:35:55 AM |
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29.Rc1 essentially ended our attack and we are now headed for an endgame. Our winning chances are over but I think we have excellent chances to draw even after losing a pawn. Here is the best I can see for both sides. Most of the moves below look forced to me. After we play Qg6 our threat of Re8 followed by Re2 is pretty serious. I cannot find any good options for our opponent besides 31.Rc6.
30.Qxe5 Qg6 31.Rc6 Re8 32.Qxe8+ Nxe8 33.Rxg6+ hxg6
Both 34.Bc4 and 34.g4 should give white a small advantage but I think we have excellent chances to draw. I cannot see any other options for us that do not lose on the spot.
I think we have better chances by keeping the queens on and therefore 31..Rc8 32. Rxc8 Bxc8. Draw with the black pieces is never bad against strong opposition anyway.
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