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Author Topic: [ANN][SHIFT] The New Web | IPFS/Phantom | ShiftNrg.org Hosted Decentralized!  (Read 547540 times)
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May 19, 2016, 05:47:34 PM
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Excuse me, Phantom is same with Zeronet.... Whats newly functions

plus, Sia Coin is cload storage.. is sia hosting files?
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May 19, 2016, 07:54:52 PM
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which criteria you have in pool ?
 I had more than 500 acepts and only pay pool only 26 blocks ?
gostaris the source code pool is possible ?
MINING soil and inefficient takes too long to find blocks and the pool think it quite put the block is not fair payment

would not 2 coin per block ?


http://prntscr.com/b6277j

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May 19, 2016, 08:05:38 PM
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Excuse me, Phantom is same with Zeronet.... Whats newly functions

plus, Sia Coin is cload storage.. is sia hosting files?

Since PHANTOM is a port of ZeroNet there are similarities, but at the same time we are also extending that functionality. I'm not the best person to talk about the in-depth technicalities but someone else from the team might come by and give their opinion.

I don't know much about SIA, but they are serving a different niche than we are.


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May 19, 2016, 08:06:57 PM
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which criteria you have in pool ?
 I had more than 500 acepts and only pay pool only 26 blocks ?
gostaris the source code pool is possible ?
MINING soil and inefficient takes too long to find blocks and the pool think it quite put the block is not fair payment

would not 2 coin per block ?


http://prntscr.com/b6277j


Which pool are you mining on?

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May 19, 2016, 08:15:21 PM
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which criteria you have in pool ?
 I had more than 500 acepts and only pay pool only 26 blocks ?
gostaris the source code pool is possible ?
MINING soil and inefficient takes too long to find blocks and the pool think it quite put the block is not fair payment

would not 2 coin per block ?


http://prntscr.com/b6277j


Which pool are you mining on?

http://pool.shiftnrg.org/#/

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May 19, 2016, 08:57:20 PM
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at what point was the reward for a block in the 2 coin Huh
has the same fixation on the 3 coins now 2 where the announcement that the award has decreased? I asked this question to the PM but I did not answer directly. I would like to hear the answer!

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May 19, 2016, 09:21:35 PM
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which criteria you have in pool ?
 I had more than 500 acepts and only pay pool only 26 blocks ?
gostaris the source code pool is possible ?
MINING soil and inefficient takes too long to find blocks and the pool think it quite put the block is not fair payment

would not 2 coin per block ?


http://prntscr.com/b6277j


Which pool are you mining on?

500 accepted shares?

Shares are at lower difficulty than a block, and used to calculate your share of the next reward block.
From the image you linked, it looks like 26 of your 500 shares where high enough to find a block.

I guess your 500 shares number came from your mining software, the pool pages don't show a raw share total
and it's possible the the shares accepted (valid, on time) by the pool is less...

If you managed to find 26 blocks mining solo, your reward would have been about 52 Shift.

Of course mining solo need a bit more work and resources than mining with a pool.

Pool info here: http://pool.shiftnrg.org/#/about

More info about pools in general here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pooled_mining
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May 19, 2016, 09:28:57 PM
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at what point was the reward for a block in the 2 coin Huh
has the same fixation on the 3 coins now 2 where the announcement that the award has decreased? I asked this question to the PM but I did not answer directly. I would like to hear the answer!

Maybe you are thinking about Uther?  Grin

The block reward has been 2 since the change to 2.5.0. (April 9th)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg14465352#msg14465352
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May 19, 2016, 09:35:04 PM
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Excuse me, Phantom is same with Zeronet.... Whats newly functions

plus, Sia Coin is cload storage.. is sia hosting files?

Since PHANTOM is a port of ZeroNet there are similarities, but at the same time we are also extending that functionality. I'm not the best person to talk about the in-depth technicalities but someone else from the team might come by and give their opinion.

I don't know much about SIA, but they are serving a different niche than we are.




ZeroNet is not Phantom, but Phantom is ZeroNet. And much more.

Currently we have written about 800 lines of working python. Once we are done with Phantom it will be a few thousand lines of code. The implementation we are working on is unique, no one is using anything comparable yet. Our vision is to build a fully fledged decentralized and distributed web hosting network, which will be capable of running any kind of website (client side js, html, css etc..) able to interact with SHIFT (and Ethereum). This gives us the possibility to build a working economic system where we can "pay" users (instead of the hosting/vps providers) to host content via node rewards.

Furthermore, right now all frontends of ethereum dapps run on centralized servers, often a single web server with node-js as a server side backend. Sometimes along with databases as well. We enable frontends for all SHIFT / Ethereum DAPPS to be run fully decentralized in a secure manner. The frontends can not be taken down, are immune to DDoS/DoS attacks, are immune to single-point-of-failures or power outages. And the best of all, it does not cost any hosting fees what so ever as users serve the content for each other.

It is secure because all calls that are made are done via IPC, on localhost only. When you browse a site, you sync it locally and then execute the local IPC calls. A site is never browsed over "internet". This means that you can run a GUI frontend, in this case ShiftHub, which will host wallet, DAPP browser, messaging services, the functionality to easily create custom websites with just a "click" and integrate it with SHIFT.

It also will serve as a decentralized storage system, although the limitation at first will be 10MB per website + contract storage (which should not contain more than a few bytes,). The contract storage will act as a decentralized DNS system for Phantom among other things. An easy way to describe it is that we are trying to build a parallel Internet for decentralized content distribution.

We are building our own "web 3.0" for Phamtom, although you can't really compare it.

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May 19, 2016, 09:35:32 PM
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at what point was the reward for a block in the 2 coin Huh
has the same fixation on the 3 coins now 2 where the announcement that the award has decreased? I asked this question to the PM but I did not answer directly. I would like to hear the answer!

Maybe you are thinking about Uther?  Grin

The block reward has been 2 since the change to 2.5.0. (April 9th)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg14465352#msg14465352


seems to have missed the time))) though I read everything. sorry

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May 19, 2016, 09:54:01 PM
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which criteria you have in pool ?
 I had more than 500 acepts and only pay pool only 26 blocks ?
gostaris the source code pool is possible ?
MINING soil and inefficient takes too long to find blocks and the pool think it quite put the block is not fair payment

would not 2 coin per block ?


http://prntscr.com/b6277j


Which pool are you mining on?

500 accepted shares?

Shares are at lower difficulty than a block, and used to calculate your share of the next reward block.
From the image you linked, it looks like 26 of your 500 shares where high enough to find a block.

I guess your 500 shares number came from your mining software, the pool pages don't show a raw share total
and it's possible the the shares accepted (valid, on time) by the pool is less...

If you managed to find 26 blocks mining solo, your reward would have been about 52 Shift.

Of course mining solo need a bit more work and resources than mining with a pool.

Pool info here: http://pool.shiftnrg.org/#/about

More info about pools in general here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pooled_mining


http://prntscr.com/b63mnd

just I wanted to understand, because in mining that are exatamento the number q seems to me in my wallet and the pool not paid me 26 blocks and more montande q had in my miner was where?
A10 these data : R0 + 0: F0 mining corresmponde soil exatamende with coins numbers that are there already in the pool and not so ta going to where was mineirado WHAT ?

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May 19, 2016, 10:08:45 PM
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http://prntscr.com/b63mnd

just I wanted to understand, because in mining that are exatamento the number q seems to me in my wallet and the pool not paid me 26 blocks and more montande q had in my miner was where?
A10 these data : R0 + 0: F0 mining corresmponde soil exatamende with coins numbers that are there already in the pool and not so ta going to where was mineirado WHAT ?

pm exeric3, he is the pool operator, he will explain. thx
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May 19, 2016, 10:27:24 PM
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http://prntscr.com/b63mnd

just I wanted to understand, because in mining that are exatamento the number q seems to me in my wallet and the pool not paid me 26 blocks and more montande q had in my miner was where?
A10 these data : R0 + 0: F0 mining corresmponde soil exatamende with coins numbers that are there already in the pool and not so ta going to where was mineirado WHAT ?

pm exeric3, he is the pool operator, he will explain. thx

thanks

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May 20, 2016, 09:09:00 AM
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Greets! Please explain or point somewhere describes about finding block process.

Have you a masternode on net? When I use only discovered nodes I cannot mine any block for hours. Opened TCP ports are 53900, 53901. Any discovery ports in your net?

Why is Shift node crashes when I find a block (2-3 times a working day)?

What is IP 13.79.154.168 constantly scanning my PC ports? If I block it - no shares accepted.

What is Torsock node with IP xx.xx.xx.0?

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May 20, 2016, 11:40:15 AM
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Greets! Please explain or point somewhere describes about finding block process.

Have you a masternode on net? When I use only discovered nodes I cannot mine any block for hours. Opened TCP ports are 53900, 53901. Any discovery ports in your net?

Why is Shift node crashes when I find a block (2-3 times a working day)?

What is IP 13.79.154.168 constantly scanning my PC ports? If I block it - no shares accepted.

What is Torsock node with IP xx.xx.xx.0?

Close port 53901 (RPC)  to the external network.
(See the following post ... read the whole thing please)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg14878725#msg14878725

I've noticed scans to other ports from the same IP#. Opening ports and running any crypto deamons will make your network more interesting...

Torsock appears to be a gshift node connected to the net via TOR.

The ethereum wiki has a good description of mining that applies to SHIFT too, with the exception of differing block rewards and block time.

https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Mining#introduction
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May 20, 2016, 11:52:23 AM
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Hi everyone,

we are currently preparing to roll out the release of GShift 2.5.2 which is looking to address stability issues when solomining and improve sync times.

We will have an update once the files are available.

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May 20, 2016, 12:44:07 PM
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Greets! Please explain or point somewhere describes about finding block process.

Have you a masternode on net? When I use only discovered nodes I cannot mine any block for hours. Opened TCP ports are 53900, 53901. Any discovery ports in your net?

Why is Shift node crashes when I find a block (2-3 times a working day)?

What is IP 13.79.154.168 constantly scanning my PC ports? If I block it - no shares accepted.

What is Torsock node with IP xx.xx.xx.0?

Close port 53901 (RPC)  to the external network.
(See the following post ... read the whole thing please)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg14878725#msg14878725

I've noticed scans to other ports from the same IP#. Opening ports and running any crypto deamons will make your network more interesting...

Torsock appears to be a gshift node connected to the net via TOR.

The ethereum wiki has a good description of mining that applies to SHIFT too, with the exception of differing block rewards and block time.

https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Mining#introduction

I didn't mention about my RPC. It's out of this numbers). The problem of torsock is ranged nature. I appreciate anonymity but prefer my own security.
Discovery in Eth uses UDP 30301. No mention in Shift about it. That's why RPC was relocated and port 53901 was opened.
Still need explain about port scanning IP address. I think it's smth like masternode. But Whois tells Microsoft AS-server (Azure?) located in Ireland. If it is a botnet element, then why shares aren't submit when I block it? Interesting 2 know Mr. Shift's opinion.

Improved solo mining stability sounds great, but it's dev-only game till I can't understand unwanted activity.
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May 20, 2016, 01:49:34 PM
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Greets! Please explain or point somewhere describes about finding block process.

Have you a masternode on net? When I use only discovered nodes I cannot mine any block for hours. Opened TCP ports are 53900, 53901. Any discovery ports in your net?

Why is Shift node crashes when I find a block (2-3 times a working day)?

What is IP 13.79.154.168 constantly scanning my PC ports? If I block it - no shares accepted.

What is Torsock node with IP xx.xx.xx.0?

Close port 53901 (RPC)  to the external network.
(See the following post ... read the whole thing please)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg14878725#msg14878725

I've noticed scans to other ports from the same IP#. Opening ports and running any crypto deamons will make your network more interesting...

Torsock appears to be a gshift node connected to the net via TOR.

The ethereum wiki has a good description of mining that applies to SHIFT too, with the exception of differing block rewards and block time.

https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Mining#introduction

I didn't mention about my RPC. It's out of this numbers). The problem of torsock is ranged nature. I appreciate anonymity but prefer my own security.
Discovery in Eth uses UDP 30301. No mention in Shift about it. That's why RPC was relocated and port 53901 was opened.
Still need explain about port scanning IP address. I think it's smth like masternode. But Whois tells Microsoft AS-server (Azure?) located in Ireland. If it is a botnet element, then why shares aren't submit when I block it? Interesting 2 know Mr. Shift's opinion.

Improved solo mining stability sounds great, but it's dev-only game till I can't understand unwanted activity.

Sorry to hear that but so far you are the first user unable to solo- or poolmine with the most basic effort.

We do not currently host a "masternode" in Ireland, so whatever is scanning your ports must be something else.


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May 20, 2016, 01:56:26 PM
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UPDATE MAY 20: GSHIFT 2.5.2





We have released GShift 2.5.2.

As previously mentioned this release is looking to solve solomining instability issues
and provide faster sync times. We have beta tested it thoroughly over the last week.

Pools and exchanges are currently being notified.

Please report any feedback.




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May 21, 2016, 02:49:25 AM
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So there is no way how to do stratum mining currently for SHIFT since they are all Getwork?

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