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Author Topic: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)  (Read 767038 times)
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May 23, 2023, 08:12:32 AM
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I think the FIGC decision is not as stupid as you think. The Federation has conducted an in-depth investigation into the mistakes made by Juventus. Juventus' previous appeals have also been granted so that Juventus are aware that the case will be investigated again at a later date and it turns out that it is true that they are again entangled in the law.

Regarding the plans of a number of clubs that you think will fall apart, I am also wrong. What you should know is that Juventus have realized what the risks to the club will be as a result of what they did before. Whereas other teams already have a clear road map for their team, there are no obstacles at all with what the Bianconeri are experiencing.

I fully support FIGC's efforts to eradicate crime in Serie A. Currently the Italian League is back on track and will probably return to being the best league in Europe.
There are other factors that have made Juventus get point deductions that have an impact on their current position in the Serie A standings.
At first I knew that Juventus were getting back the points that were deducted because of the effort they put in to get them back to second place.
From local sources I read, Juventus deducted points due to "financial irregularities" but I don't want to extend because this is far from my knowledge.

Due to what is now happening to Juventus, there are clubs outside of Italy who are making positive gains in pot sharing in the UEFA Champions League.
I also hope that what happened to Juventus ends well.

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May 23, 2023, 08:42:30 AM
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The decision to deduct points from juventus is related to the capital gains scandal reversed midway through the season.This is really going to affect them, honestly, this came at the wrong time. They’re out of the Europa league where they would have used the platform to navigate their way into the UCL. It’s really bad for Juventus, they can’t get maximum points from their remaining games to guarantee them any UCL spot. Juve league spot is as yo-yo as ever this season..I hope they bounce back from these setback.
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May 23, 2023, 08:54:43 AM
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Empoli vs Juventus today in the Italian League, Empoli won the match by scoring 4 goals. The first goal was scored by F. Caputo in the 18th minute. F. Caputo scored a total of 2 goals in this match. The second goal was scored by S. Luperto in the 21st minute.  In this match, Empoli team's players' quality of play was very good. It was not known that Juventus would perform so badly in this match. F. Chiesa scored 1 goal in 85 minutes. Juventus lost the match due to the bad performance of Juventus team's players in this match.

It surprised me greatly that Juventus would lose to Empoli; even if they were going to lose, they shouldn't have lost by four goals. This has demonstrated that Juventus had lost all hope of qualifying in the league, having dropped from second to seventh place. It will be extremely difficult for the team to meet up because the league is about to end.
Juventus is a well-known strong team that is challenging to defeat, but I believe empoli took advantage of the fact that they were playing at home to defeat them. My advice to Juventus is to be persistent, play harder the next time, and take some teams they think they can't beat seriously because these teams can be dangerous when playing on their own field.


I too am surprised at the heavy defeat
a team that is going totally in disarray

they risk second place in this way, and it's not a good thing in my opinion
it started badly and is ending badly, Allegri did everything possible (and it shows in the standings)

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May 23, 2023, 09:21:32 AM
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Winning the Europa League title is becoming a more realistic thing now for AS Roma to do in order to establish themselves in the Champions League next season, and they will definitely do it all. But on the other hand, their competitors, Sevilla, also definitely want to do the same thing, so it will be a competition that will be draining for them, they will definitely do all they can to make their wish come true. And maybe they will determine who will be the winner through a penalty shootout.
I think AS Roma only has hope in the European league to get the championship trophy after failing to increase points in this Italian league.
There is little belief that AS Roma will save all their energy to compete in the European league and in this Italian league there will be a slight decrease in the performance of AS Roma players so they don't chase points too much in the Italian league.
I'm not sure whether the European league final will end in a penalty shootout with Sevilla, but it looks like AS Roma has little chance of winning.
The chance is currently a little more for Serie A to follow with Juventus who are currently losing points again for the sanctions they are getting now.
Of course, with Juventus who immediately dropped to 7th place now, it gives them more hope at this time, especially with the current condition of the Europa League, you can still get it, considering that their gap is only 1 point now.

But that doesn't mean it's easy. Juventus can also still catch up in their remaining 2 matches so now performance and consistency will affect their condition in the standings.

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May 23, 2023, 09:28:36 AM
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lol . what happened in the serie A table this season. I can't believe the court gave such a bitter decision to Juventus that they had previously lifted the sentence. Indeed, bad luck again befalls Juventus and benefits other teams. I just checked the Serie A standings table and saw Juventus thrown into 7th place in the standings and they are 5 points adrift with AC Milan who are in 4th place.

I was more surprised after seeing the results of the Empoli vs Juventus match where Juventus failed again in this match and they even lost 4-1.
Tbis is happening again, their performnace decreased very bady after the decision. Well, the court decided to give the punishment again, reducing points. It, of course, hurts Juventus players and make them not motivated again, likely, no chance again. I am also surprose when seeing both results, the point reduction and also the result of the game, losing 4-1 is bad, moreover 1 of them was from penalty kick

It's hard being a Juventus fan right now. Actually, it is hard to associate with Juventus at all. They have performed really well but while they should have been in the second position of the table they are currently at the 7th.

I really think that they should have been given a big amount of fine. That was going to be enough. At least don't take away points two times in the same season. They could easily give them a fine for the second time. Juventus is not going to have a good mentality right now. They will probably not be able to play in the European League as well, to be honest.

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May 23, 2023, 10:05:07 AM
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Empoli vs Juventus today in the Italian League, Empoli won the match by scoring 4 goals. The first goal was scored by F. Caputo in the 18th minute. F. Caputo scored a total of 2 goals in this match. The second goal was scored by S. Luperto in the 21st minute.  In this match, Empoli team's players' quality of play was very good. It was not known that Juventus would perform so badly in this match. F. Chiesa scored 1 goal in 85 minutes. Juventus lost the match due to the bad performance of Juventus team's players in this match.
Juventus's concentration already destroyed since the news about 10 points deduction was coming. The news was coming when juventus is in the match against empoli. That was disrupting the concentration that has been owned by all of players.

The result will be different if there would be no bad news came when all of players are still fighting against empoli. Juventus gets another point deduction + lose full points against empoli.
It was making juventus being so far from the UCL. It's very sad that europa league has become the main hope for juventus to go to the UCL but it's gone now.

Juventus fans are not happy with that decision to deduct 10 points from juventus. What a horrible league.
Im sure that for people who were watching the match against napoli will aware if the concentration from the clubs were not stable at that moment.


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May 23, 2023, 10:11:05 AM
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The decision to deduct points from juventus is related to the capital gains scandal reversed midway through the season.This is really going to affect them, honestly, this came at the wrong time. They’re out of the Europa league where they would have used the platform to navigate their way into the UCL. It’s really bad for Juventus, they can’t get maximum points from their remaining games to guarantee them any UCL spot. Juve league spot is as yo-yo as ever this season..I hope they bounce back from these setback.

When you lie and are not honest about your financial affairs, that is what you get. I was happy for them when they jumped back into second place around two months ago, celebrating and gearing up to compete for the Champions League, but the court had to wait until three weeks before the season's end to take away 10 points, and the timing would have really hurt them since they also lost an important match to Sevilla last week. They won't have many games to play in the upcoming season because they aren't eligible for any European competitions, but who knows, they could make an effort to win their final two matches to see if they can qualify for either the Conference League or Europa.

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The decision to deduct points from juventus is related to the capital gains scandal reversed midway through the season.This is really going to affect them, honestly, this came at the wrong time. They’re out of the Europa league where they would have used the platform to navigate their way into the UCL. It’s really bad for Juventus, they can’t get maximum points from their remaining games to guarantee them any UCL spot. Juve league spot is as yo-yo as ever this season..I hope they bounce back from these setback.

The sad drama again befalls Juventus. Even though only 10 points were deducted from the total points owned by Juventus, this succeeded in throwing Juventus to 7th place. What I can say for Juventus is that they had bad luck and were very unfortunate.

Actually I'm quite happy with Juventus who are ranked 2nd. Because to be honest I want to watch Juventus fight in the Champions League next season. But now Juventus has no hope left for a UCL ticket. and Juventus' defeat by Empoli also made Juventus suffer completely. Because Juventus also failed to land in the European league zone.

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May 23, 2023, 10:46:48 AM
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Four times in a row what?Huh


Where you can find the 4 times win in a row? Juventus is the most unstable team in the last 2 months.


I think it is even normal when they give you and remove points when they want, even 10 minutes before a match when you are in the pitch

Well that is something new,I just saw in Flashscore that they truly removed again the points,this is I don't know how to call it a very very bad move and Juventus was completely surprised and this showed on field.There is a good thing that there are another two games left and they are just one point away from the European competitions and I think they will get to that,they deserve it based on their overall performance during the season.Roma with these disgusting shows should not be able to be playing in European competitions next season,they were not able to win against Salernitana yesterday night.

Roma can play badly, of course, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to play in European cups. They have reached the finals of the European league and if they win they will be in the UCL. That's why I think Roma is having a successful European tournament this year. On the other hand, Juventus definitely deserve to be in the European cups, but their position is constantly under threat due to these point deductions.

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May 23, 2023, 10:48:28 AM
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Damn what you said is true Rome can't play well because it failed to have more goals to excel and be a winner.
This match with a draw proved that Salernitana is a team that cannot be underestimated because they managed to make Roma fail to win at home.
I couldn't believe the match would end in a draw, but Roma themselves in the last 7 matches only got 1 win and 1 defeat, the rest were draws.
From this it can be seen that Rome has experienced a decline in the quality of the game.

Roma is not an impressive team. They struggle too much in games that they should be winning.
Since they got the the quarter final of the Europa league they've been shitty in the league. I respect Mourinho but this is too bad even from him. You cant just put all your eggs in one basket like this. So what if he loses the Europa final? So that means there will be no champions league football for Roma next season.
Roma has what it takes to focus on qualifying for the top four and also winning the Europa league. How can a team like Roma have no win in their six last Serie A games. 2 loses and 4 draws. That's a very poor form. It is not even a certainty that they will win Sevilla in the Europa final.

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May 23, 2023, 10:52:28 AM
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It surprised me greatly that Juventus would lose to Empoli; even if they were going to lose, they shouldn't have lost by four goals. This has demonstrated that Juventus had lost all hope of qualifying in the league, having dropped from second to seventh place. It will be extremely difficult for the team to meet up because the league is about to end.
Juventus is a well-known strong team that is challenging to defeat, but I believe empoli took advantage of the fact that they were playing at home to defeat them. My advice to Juventus is to be persistent, play harder the next time, and take some teams they think they can't beat seriously because these teams can be dangerous when playing on their own field.
I too am surprised at the heavy defeat
a team that is going totally in disarray
they risk second place in this way, and it's not a good thing in my opinion
it started badly and is ending badly, Allegri did everything possible (and it shows in the standings)

We have to remember that Juventus is not in the best mental condition right now. A total of 25 points have been taken away from them this season. Which of course I think was absolutely unnecessary. I truly believe that this could have been settled with a big amount of fine. But there is a big argument that if it was about money Juventus actually probably wouldn't have cared so much like they are doing right now.

But I still think that this was a really harsh decision for Juventus. They could have actually won the league title this season. But instead, now they are not even playing in the European League competition. That is genuinely sad.

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May 23, 2023, 11:10:06 AM
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We have to remember that Juventus is not in the best mental condition right now.
They are facing mentality problem after losing in Seville at Europa League semi final second leg and recently was taken 10 points in Serie A.

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A total of 25 points have been taken away from them this season.
It's not 25 points but only 10 points if you read news carefully. Initial punishment is 15 points but months later it was reverted and unfortunately days ago Juventus were taken 10 points that is 5 points less than the initial punishment against them in Serie A.

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Which of course I think was absolutely unnecessary. I truly believe that this could have been settled with a big amount of fine.
Are you sure it is unnecessary?

If a club broke a league's terms, they should not be punished with point deduction and monetary fine? If nothing like that, that league will become chaotic and uncontrollable.

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May 23, 2023, 11:13:37 AM
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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.

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May 23, 2023, 11:33:32 AM
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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.
And actually the case that befell Juventus has been going on for quite a long time. And why should it be now when they will soon be declared qualified for the Champions League. And the one who benefited the most from the reduction in points experienced by Juventus was Ac Milan. Yesterday it was almost impossible for them to get a ticket to the next Champions League. But for AC Milan, the 10-point sanction for Juventus is actually like a miracle. Because it automatically makes AC Milan secure a ticket to the Champions League.

Well I hope Juventus can remain as strong a team as ever. Even though this season they couldn't get a Champions League ticket, I'm pretty sure next season Juventus will be able to get one. Because after all Juventus is actually the most deserving of a ticket to the Champions League after Napoli.

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May 23, 2023, 11:41:41 AM
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Tensions started happening again on the Juventus side after the Juventus team again received a point deduction of 10 units. And on the other hand, Juventus were also unable to win at Empoli. Juventus should have been aiming for three points from yesterday's game in order to be immediately stuck in fifth place at the time of deducting the 10 point points. But unfortunately Juventus have to lose against Empoli so it will be a little more complicated for Juventus, which is likely to only be aiming for fifth place in the standings for the end of this season.

Serie a is such a joke man. WTF was wrong with serie a? i can't even accept it. The main concern is the announcement was coming 10 minutes before the match against napoli. That news was just ruining all of spirits that have been owned by juventus players before it will be facing empoli.
There are so many loopholes in serie a. Even if juventus was making a mistake and announcing it 10 minutes before the match was still unacceptable. I can't even accept such condition for juventus.

Serie a dislike juventus. I wonder how long this shitty drama will be going on. Will 10 points deduction received by juventus be lifted again?
What a non sense competition.

The news was just giving a big punch to the mentality that owned by whole of juventus players.

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May 23, 2023, 12:05:30 PM
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This point deduction makes Milan's condition safe at least for now for the Champions League but on the other hand 2 matches remain now for each club and if Juventus lose today then their chances of moving in a better direction by shifting Atalanta and Roma are actually still possible.
I'm sure there will be an appeal about this, but indeed with the current conditions I don't really expect it because it's just a waste of time because even if their appeal for the first one is successful but I don't think it can be saved for Juventus compared to this 2nd one.

Juventus won't like to play in the conference league, not after all that has happened. They might just decide to drop and appeal the case again. It's very unfortunate that these things are happening. It's creating a lot of uncertainties, not only for Juventus but for other Serie A teams.
The point reduction, if it stands, favors Milan. As horrible as they've been lately, they have gotten a chance to qualify for the champions league. I don't think their position is threatened by either Roma or Atalanta. Although Inter still have to play Juventus, I believe they'll still hold on to that 4th position, they've been given a lifeline and I don't think they'll waste it. Besides, Atalanta still has to play Inter Milan, while Roma has Fiorentina, plus they're more focused on the Europa league.
I read some of the tweets from Juventus and it is possible that they can do that again


But in this case, what I see is if they do this again and if their possible appeal is readmitted will it trigger another bigger reaction from some big clubs? Because indeed this would be like nonsense with uncertainty that would seem to be considered a joke.
Juventus had previously been found guilty of increasing player transfer fees to increase their financial coffers and of course there had to be sanctions and consequences.
Even though this seems too cornering, but of course this is the result of the actions of their own superiors, isn't it.

In this case Lazio and Milan have a real advantage because indirectly they don't really need to compete strictly for a position in the top 4 at this time. But for Atalanta, Roma and Juventus there is a chance that they can still make it to the Europa League at this time if you really look at their positions and the point gap and the schedule of their remaining 2 matches.

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May 23, 2023, 12:14:03 PM
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There are other factors that have made Juventus get point deductions that have an impact on their current position in the Serie A standings.
At first I knew that Juventus were getting back the points that were deducted because of the effort they put in to get them back to second place.
From local sources I read, Juventus deducted points due to "financial irregularities" but I don't want to extend because this is far from my knowledge.

Due to what is now happening to Juventus, there are clubs outside of Italy who are making positive gains in pot sharing in the UEFA Champions League.
I also hope that what happened to Juventus ends well.

They have a sportive law for it when and if it is proved and it is a fine.
We also have a previous cases for Inter and a 90k € fine for it.


It is an EUFA penalty for the superleague.

Juventus, anticipation of Christillin: "Penalty for leaving the Champions League"

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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845
It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.
Every few months, the boys in Italy got bored and want some fun, once they drop the team to the second league, other time they deduct 15 points, another day they remove 10 points.
This sanction related to transfer dilemma just before their game vs Empoli was annoying and made the team unstable. Again Juve have to figure out what to do to get ride from this and get back its position.. Right now their chances to play in Champions League are very very small.

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May 23, 2023, 12:24:29 PM
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The sad drama again befalls Juventus. Even though only 10 points were deducted from the total points owned by Juventus, this succeeded in throwing Juventus to 7th place. What I can say for Juventus is that they had bad luck and were very unfortunate.

Actually I'm quite happy with Juventus who are ranked 2nd. Because to be honest I want to watch Juventus fight in the Champions League next season. But now Juventus has no hope left for a UCL ticket. and Juventus' defeat by Empoli also made Juventus suffer completely. Because Juventus also failed to land in the European league zone.
The penalty came again when the League was about to end with this point deduction Juventus would not be able to do with the remaining matches, unless they resigned themselves to this incident but I always wondered why the penalty returned after some time ago their points were returned too.

Maybe with this incident the mentality of the players will decrease a little because they are no longer playing in the European zone, if you wait for one more season it will be too long and this is clearly the bitterness they are experiencing after remaining with 2 more matches.

Even with two matches for Juventus it will be tough enough to play against him.

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May 23, 2023, 01:07:51 PM
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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

This is of course some real corruption.  I bet the judge has been paid to make a decision like this.  and why do they have to take away 10 points from Juventus? ? they could just find money and punish them that way. This is some bullshit going on ! !

I really do not think the players will actually want to stay in Juventus after what has happened this season. what is the point of staying in a team which is not going to play in the Champions League even after finishing in the second position?  But probably that's what those people who made this decision actually want.
Indeed, I am quite upset to hear this and it seems that even though Juventus has made a mistake regarding the financial scandal, the points deduction should not have been made towards the end of the season. We know very well the feelings of the Juventus players here, they are certainly very angry, disappointed and do not accept this decision.

But we really don't know what happened there and I think even though Juventus have dropped so far in the standings, at least they still have a chance in the last two matches to determine their fate playing in European competition and even if they can't deal with the current turmoil, I hope they can immediately pick themselves up and do everything next season again.

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