Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

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Damn what you said is true Rome can't play well because it failed to have more goals to excel and be a winner.
This match with a draw proved that Salernitana is a team that cannot be underestimated because they managed to make Roma fail to win at home.
I couldn't believe the match would end in a draw, but Roma themselves in the last 7 matches only got 1 win and 1 defeat, the rest were draws.
From this it can be seen that Rome has experienced a decline in the quality of the game.

Roma is not an impressive team. They struggle too much in games that they should be winning.
Since they got the the quarter final of the Europa league they've been shitty in the league. I respect Mourinho but this is too bad even from him. You cant just put all your eggs in one basket like this. So what if he loses the Europa final? So that means there will be no champions league football for Roma next season.
Roma has what it takes to focus on qualifying for the top four and also winning the Europa league. How can a team like Roma have no win in their six last Serie A games. 2 loses and 4 draws. That's a very poor form. It is not even a certainty that they will win Sevilla in the Europa final.

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It surprised me greatly that Juventus would lose to Empoli; even if they were going to lose, they shouldn't have lost by four goals. This has demonstrated that Juventus had lost all hope of qualifying in the league, having dropped from second to seventh place. It will be extremely difficult for the team to meet up because the league is about to end.
Juventus is a well-known strong team that is challenging to defeat, but I believe empoli took advantage of the fact that they were playing at home to defeat them. My advice to Juventus is to be persistent, play harder the next time, and take some teams they think they can't beat seriously because these teams can be dangerous when playing on their own field.

I too am surprised at the heavy defeat
a team that is going totally in disarray
they risk second place in this way, and it's not a good thing in my opinion
it started badly and is ending badly, Allegri did everything possible (and it shows in the standings)

We have to remember that Juventus is not in the best mental condition right now. A total of 25 points have been taken away from them this season. Which of course I think was absolutely unnecessary. I truly believe that this could have been settled with a big amount of fine. But there is a big argument that if it was about money Juventus actually probably wouldn't have cared so much like they are doing right now.

But I still think that this was a really harsh decision for Juventus. They could have actually won the league title this season. But instead, now they are not even playing in the European League competition. That is genuinely sad.

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[hd49728]

We have to remember that Juventus is not in the best mental condition right now.

They are facing mentality problem after losing in Seville at Europa League semi final second leg and recently was taken 10 points in Serie A.

A total of 25 points have been taken away from them this season.

It's not 25 points but only 10 points if you read news carefully. Initial punishment is 15 points but months later it was reverted and unfortunately days ago Juventus were taken 10 points that is 5 points less than the initial punishment against them in Serie A.

Which of course I think was absolutely unnecessary. I truly believe that this could have been settled with a big amount of fine.

Are you sure it is unnecessary?

If a club broke a league's terms, they should not be punished with point deduction and monetary fine? If nothing like that, that league will become chaotic and uncontrollable.

[fzkto]

Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.

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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.

And actually the case that befell Juventus has been going on for quite a long time. And why should it be now when they will soon be declared qualified for the Champions League. And the one who benefited the most from the reduction in points experienced by Juventus was Ac Milan. Yesterday it was almost impossible for them to get a ticket to the next Champions League. But for AC Milan, the 10-point sanction for Juventus is actually like a miracle. Because it automatically makes AC Milan secure a ticket to the Champions League.

Well I hope Juventus can remain as strong a team as ever. Even though this season they couldn't get a Champions League ticket, I'm pretty sure next season Juventus will be able to get one. Because after all Juventus is actually the most deserving of a ticket to the Champions League after Napoli.

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Tensions started happening again on the Juventus side after the Juventus team again received a point deduction of 10 units. And on the other hand, Juventus were also unable to win at Empoli. Juventus should have been aiming for three points from yesterday's game in order to be immediately stuck in fifth place at the time of deducting the 10 point points. But unfortunately Juventus have to lose against Empoli so it will be a little more complicated for Juventus, which is likely to only be aiming for fifth place in the standings for the end of this season.

Serie a is such a joke man. WTF was wrong with serie a? i can't even accept it. The main concern is the announcement was coming 10 minutes before the match against napoli. That news was just ruining all of spirits that have been owned by juventus players before it will be facing empoli.
There are so many loopholes in serie a. Even if juventus was making a mistake and announcing it 10 minutes before the match was still unacceptable. I can't even accept such condition for juventus.

Serie a dislike juventus. I wonder how long this shitty drama will be going on. Will 10 points deduction received by juventus be lifted again?
What a non sense competition.

The news was just giving a big punch to the mentality that owned by whole of juventus players.

[Ryu_Ar1]

This point deduction makes Milan's condition safe at least for now for the Champions League but on the other hand 2 matches remain now for each club and if Juventus lose today then their chances of moving in a better direction by shifting Atalanta and Roma are actually still possible.
I'm sure there will be an appeal about this, but indeed with the current conditions I don't really expect it because it's just a waste of time because even if their appeal for the first one is successful but I don't think it can be saved for Juventus compared to this 2nd one.

Juventus won't like to play in the conference league, not after all that has happened. They might just decide to drop and appeal the case again. It's very unfortunate that these things are happening. It's creating a lot of uncertainties, not only for Juventus but for other Serie A teams.
The point reduction, if it stands, favors Milan. As horrible as they've been lately, they have gotten a chance to qualify for the champions league. I don't think their position is threatened by either Roma or Atalanta. Although Inter still have to play Juventus, I believe they'll still hold on to that 4th position, they've been given a lifeline and I don't think they'll waste it. Besides, Atalanta still has to play Inter Milan, while Roma has Fiorentina, plus they're more focused on the Europa league.

I read some of the tweets from Juventus and it is possible that they can do that again

But in this case, what I see is if they do this again and if their possible appeal is readmitted will it trigger another bigger reaction from some big clubs? Because indeed this would be like nonsense with uncertainty that would seem to be considered a joke.
Juventus had previously been found guilty of increasing player transfer fees to increase their financial coffers and of course there had to be sanctions and consequences.
Even though this seems too cornering, but of course this is the result of the actions of their own superiors, isn't it.

In this case Lazio and Milan have a real advantage because indirectly they don't really need to compete strictly for a position in the top 4 at this time. But for Atalanta, Roma and Juventus there is a chance that they can still make it to the Europa League at this time if you really look at their positions and the point gap and the schedule of their remaining 2 matches.

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There are other factors that have made Juventus get point deductions that have an impact on their current position in the Serie A standings.
At first I knew that Juventus were getting back the points that were deducted because of the effort they put in to get them back to second place.
From local sources I read, Juventus deducted points due to "financial irregularities" but I don't want to extend because this is far from my knowledge.

Due to what is now happening to Juventus, there are clubs outside of Italy who are making positive gains in pot sharing in the UEFA Champions League.
I also hope that what happened to Juventus ends well.

They have a sportive law for it when and if it is proved and it is a fine.
We also have a previous cases for Inter and a 90k € fine for it.


It is an EUFA penalty for the superleague.

Juventus, anticipation of Christillin: "Penalty for leaving the Champions League"

Christillin is a member of the UEFA board

 

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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.

Every few months, the boys in Italy got bored and want some fun, once they drop the team to the second league, other time they deduct 15 points, another day they remove 10 points.
This sanction related to transfer dilemma just before their game vs Empoli was annoying and made the team unstable. Again Juve have to figure out what to do to get ride from this and get back its position.. Right now their chances to play in Champions League are very very small.

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The sad drama again befalls Juventus. Even though only 10 points were deducted from the total points owned by Juventus, this succeeded in throwing Juventus to 7th place. What I can say for Juventus is that they had bad luck and were very unfortunate.

Actually I'm quite happy with Juventus who are ranked 2nd. Because to be honest I want to watch Juventus fight in the Champions League next season. But now Juventus has no hope left for a UCL ticket. and Juventus' defeat by Empoli also made Juventus suffer completely. Because Juventus also failed to land in the European league zone.

The penalty came again when the League was about to end with this point deduction Juventus would not be able to do with the remaining matches, unless they resigned themselves to this incident but I always wondered why the penalty returned after some time ago their points were returned too.

Maybe with this incident the mentality of the players will decrease a little because they are no longer playing in the European zone, if you wait for one more season it will be too long and this is clearly the bitterness they are experiencing after remaining with 2 more matches.

Even with two matches for Juventus it will be tough enough to play against him.

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Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

This is of course some real corruption.  I bet the judge has been paid to make a decision like this.  and why do they have to take away 10 points from Juventus? ? they could just find money and punish them that way. This is some bullshit going on ! !

I really do not think the players will actually want to stay in Juventus after what has happened this season. what is the point of staying in a team which is not going to play in the Champions League even after finishing in the second position?  But probably that's what those people who made this decision actually want.

Indeed, I am quite upset to hear this and it seems that even though Juventus has made a mistake regarding the financial scandal, the points deduction should not have been made towards the end of the season. We know very well the feelings of the Juventus players here, they are certainly very angry, disappointed and do not accept this decision.

But we really don't know what happened there and I think even though Juventus have dropped so far in the standings, at least they still have a chance in the last two matches to determine their fate playing in European competition and even if they can't deal with the current turmoil, I hope they can immediately pick themselves up and do everything next season again.

[onecall123]

The sad drama again befalls Juventus. Even though only 10 points were deducted from the total points owned by Juventus, this succeeded in throwing Juventus to 7th place. What I can say for Juventus is that they had bad luck and were very unfortunate.

Actually I'm quite happy with Juventus who are ranked 2nd. Because to be honest I want to watch Juventus fight in the Champions League next season. But now Juventus has no hope left for a UCL ticket. and Juventus' defeat by Empoli also made Juventus suffer completely. Because Juventus also failed to land in the European league zone.

The penalty came again when the League was about to end with this point deduction Juventus would not be able to do with the remaining matches, unless they resigned themselves to this incident but I always wondered why the penalty returned after some time ago their points were returned too.

Maybe with this incident the mentality of the players will decrease a little because they are no longer playing in the European zone, if you wait for one more season it will be too long and this is clearly the bitterness they are experiencing after remaining with 2 more matches.

Even with two matches for Juventus it will be tough enough to play against him.

It's really unfortunate to see how hard Juventus worked to improve their game after being hit with a 15 point deduction.
It's about end of the season, but now face another setback. Despite initially struggling and dropping as low as 13th on the league at one point, Juventus showed incredible resilience and fought their way back up in the rankings. However, with the recent 10 points deduction, it seems like all their efforts have been undone, causing them to drop from 2nd to 7th on the point table. They also have fallen outside of a European spot, it's too bad to handle.

However, the accusations of corruption that have dealt with them long time. Ultimately, they're paying for their mistakes.

[G_Besar]

Damn what you said is true Rome can't play well because it failed to have more goals to excel and be a winner.
This match with a draw proved that Salernitana is a team that cannot be underestimated because they managed to make Roma fail to win at home.
I couldn't believe the match would end in a draw, but Roma themselves in the last 7 matches only got 1 win and 1 defeat, the rest were draws.
From this it can be seen that Rome has experienced a decline in the quality of the game.

Roma is not an impressive team. They struggle too much in games that they should be winning.
Since they got the the quarter final of the Europa league they've been shitty in the league. I respect Mourinho but this is too bad even from him. You cant just put all your eggs in one basket like this. So what if he loses the Europa final? So that means there will be no champions league football for Roma next season.
Roma has what it takes to focus on qualifying for the top four and also winning the Europa league. How can a team like Roma have no win in their six last Serie A games. 2 loses and 4 draws. That's a very poor form. It is not even a certainty that they will win Sevilla in the Europa final.

It was not easy for Mourinho to manage Roma with a very limited squad, especially since their concentration was increasingly divided into the Europa League. Maybe Mourinho doesn't think about it seriously anymore in Serie A, the proof is that he quite often saves his best players and plays more of his second layer players.

I see that Mourinho is really focused on the Europa League, he is certainly ready to risk even if Roma fail to win the Europa League. But that's his attitude that everyone should respect. He really is quite a gentleman.

[fzkto]

Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.

Every few months, the boys in Italy got bored and want some fun, once they drop the team to the second league, other time they deduct 15 points, another day they remove 10 points.
This sanction related to transfer dilemma just before their game vs Empoli was annoying and made the team unstable. Again Juve have to figure out what to do to get ride from this and get back its position.. Right now their chances to play in Champions League are very very small.

But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.

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It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?

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It was not easy for Mourinho to manage Roma with a very limited squad, especially since their concentration was increasingly divided into the Europa League. Maybe Mourinho doesn't think about it seriously anymore in Serie A, the proof is that he quite often saves his best players and plays more of his second layer players.

I see that Mourinho is really focused on the Europa League, he is certainly ready to risk even if Roma fail to win the Europa League. But that's his attitude that everyone should respect. He really is quite a gentleman.

the final match is getting closer, of course, Mourinho does not want his team to be disturbed by several players who could be injured by the intensity of the race for Champions League tickets which is getting hotter. especially after Juve finally had to face a reduction in points.
now their focus is on the Europa League. and next season hopefully they will be in contention for the Champions League. will not care too much about the results in Serie A. although they can still get the opportunity to get tickets for the Champions League regularly if they do better in Serie A.

[hd49728]

They have a sportive law for it when and if it is proved and it is a fine.
We also have a previous cases for Inter and a 90k € fine for it.


It is an EUFA penalty for the superleague.

Juventus, anticipation of Christillin: "Penalty for leaving the Champions League"

Christillin is a member of the UEFA board

Juventus got it like a penalty from their participation in Super League project which is warned and prohibited by UEFA and FIFA. I really believe about that as this season is so weird with Juventus. FIGC made some decisions which are abnormal and destroyed their reputation too. FIGC can simplify things by only punish Juventus after their investigation ends rather than fluctuating with not solid conclusion like this.

Only two match days remain and Juventus no longer have enough time to climb up to top four again. They can hope to have a position that is enough to join Europa League only.

[Die_empty]

It's really unfortunate to see how hard Juventus worked to improve their game after being hit with a 15 point deduction.
It's about end of the season, but now face another setback. Despite initially struggling and dropping as low as 13th on the league at one point, Juventus showed incredible resilience and fought their way back up in the rankings. However, with the recent 10 points deduction, it seems like all their efforts have been undone, causing them to drop from 2nd to 7th on the point table. They also have fallen outside of a European spot, it's too bad to handle.

However, the accusations of corruption that have dealt with them long time. Ultimately, they're paying for their mistakes.

When I thought Juventus had a successful season, they have been hit with several setbacks. They were heavily defeated by Empoli, lost against Sevilla in the Europa League semifinals, and had a ten points reduction. The effect of this point deduction would have been less if they had managed to make it to the Europa League finals. At least they were able to get 10 after the appeal instead of the 15 points sanctions before.

With two remaining games Juventus still have the opportunity to make it to an European competition. The loss to Empoli was a setback but the team has to push the setback aside and put effort to win their remaining games. This situation is really demoralizing but Massimiliano Allegri boys are good fighters. And I am sure they will keep fighting till the end.

[Altryist]

It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?

This circus with Juventus is already tired, if you want to take away points, then do it and don't play with it anymore. I think it affected Juventus' game against Empoli yesterday, because it's hard to focus on the game when you know you're out of the European zone again. It was possible to fight to the end, try to beat Empoli and beat Milan in the next match and thus return to the top 4, but I repeat, it’s difficult to tune in to the game, when points are taken away from you on the finish line.

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Tbis is happening again, their performnace decreased very bady after the decision. Well, the court decided to give the punishment again, reducing points. It, of course, hurts Juventus players and make them not motivated again, likely, no chance again. I am also surprose when seeing both results, the point reduction and also the result of the game, losing 4-1 is bad, moreover 1 of them was from penalty kick

It's hard being a Juventus fan right now. Actually, it is hard to associate with Juventus at all. They have performed really well but while they should have been in the second position of the table they are currently at the 7th.

I really think that they should have been given a big amount of fine. That was going to be enough. At least don't take away points two times in the same season. They could easily give them a fine for the second time. Juventus is not going to have a good mentality right now. They will probably not be able to play in the European League as well, to be honest.

Honestly, they were given 10 points, which is reduced from 15 they were given before. I get that, I understand that it is bad as a fan, you must be feeling terrible about it. However, when you consider that we are talking about a team that were never given a chance before, you should feel happy that they were at least doing better with 5 less points in punishment, and it is not even over yet, they are looking into more stuff and there could be worse stuff coming to them as well.

I guess that it is not going to be simple and we are going to see Juventus not recover from this easily and that's going to be a trouble for a lot of fans and I get that it is going to take a while. Just be patient and I am sure you guys will get better again.