Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A)

[fzkto]

Breaking News!

Juventus again received a 10 point deduction penalty and at the same time buried their hopes of being able to appear in the champions league next season. This point deduction took place before Juventus had a match against Empoli and with those 10 points deducted, they will drop to 7th place in the standings with a total of 59 points, right below Roma.

This is a crushing blow for the Juventus players especially as they will soon secure a place in the champions league and it seems that this is not in line with what the punishment they received at the end of this season. I hope they will keep their heads high and continue to be excited for Serie A next season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-juventus-10-point-penalty-30047845

It's a very funny story because there are only two games left, one of which is against Milan. I wonder why Juventus were fined 10 points this time and not 15 like they were the first time? This season's Serie A is full of drama. The top of the standings is getting even more interesting.

Every few months, the boys in Italy got bored and want some fun, once they drop the team to the second league, other time they deduct 15 points, another day they remove 10 points.
This sanction related to transfer dilemma just before their game vs Empoli was annoying and made the team unstable. Again Juve have to figure out what to do to get ride from this and get back its position.. Right now their chances to play in Champions League are very very small.

But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.

[hahay]

It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?

[rozak]

It was not easy for Mourinho to manage Roma with a very limited squad, especially since their concentration was increasingly divided into the Europa League. Maybe Mourinho doesn't think about it seriously anymore in Serie A, the proof is that he quite often saves his best players and plays more of his second layer players.

I see that Mourinho is really focused on the Europa League, he is certainly ready to risk even if Roma fail to win the Europa League. But that's his attitude that everyone should respect. He really is quite a gentleman.

the final match is getting closer, of course, Mourinho does not want his team to be disturbed by several players who could be injured by the intensity of the race for Champions League tickets which is getting hotter. especially after Juve finally had to face a reduction in points.
now their focus is on the Europa League. and next season hopefully they will be in contention for the Champions League. will not care too much about the results in Serie A. although they can still get the opportunity to get tickets for the Champions League regularly if they do better in Serie A.

[hd49728]

They have a sportive law for it when and if it is proved and it is a fine.
We also have a previous cases for Inter and a 90k € fine for it.


It is an EUFA penalty for the superleague.

Juventus, anticipation of Christillin: "Penalty for leaving the Champions League"

Christillin is a member of the UEFA board

Juventus got it like a penalty from their participation in Super League project which is warned and prohibited by UEFA and FIFA. I really believe about that as this season is so weird with Juventus. FIGC made some decisions which are abnormal and destroyed their reputation too. FIGC can simplify things by only punish Juventus after their investigation ends rather than fluctuating with not solid conclusion like this.

Only two match days remain and Juventus no longer have enough time to climb up to top four again. They can hope to have a position that is enough to join Europa League only.

[Die_empty]

It's really unfortunate to see how hard Juventus worked to improve their game after being hit with a 15 point deduction.
It's about end of the season, but now face another setback. Despite initially struggling and dropping as low as 13th on the league at one point, Juventus showed incredible resilience and fought their way back up in the rankings. However, with the recent 10 points deduction, it seems like all their efforts have been undone, causing them to drop from 2nd to 7th on the point table. They also have fallen outside of a European spot, it's too bad to handle.

However, the accusations of corruption that have dealt with them long time. Ultimately, they're paying for their mistakes.

When I thought Juventus had a successful season, they have been hit with several setbacks. They were heavily defeated by Empoli, lost against Sevilla in the Europa League semifinals, and had a ten points reduction. The effect of this point deduction would have been less if they had managed to make it to the Europa League finals. At least they were able to get 10 after the appeal instead of the 15 points sanctions before.

With two remaining games Juventus still have the opportunity to make it to an European competition. The loss to Empoli was a setback but the team has to push the setback aside and put effort to win their remaining games. This situation is really demoralizing but Massimiliano Allegri boys are good fighters. And I am sure they will keep fighting till the end.

[Altryist]

It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?

This circus with Juventus is already tired, if you want to take away points, then do it and don't play with it anymore. I think it affected Juventus' game against Empoli yesterday, because it's hard to focus on the game when you know you're out of the European zone again. It was possible to fight to the end, try to beat Empoli and beat Milan in the next match and thus return to the top 4, but I repeat, it’s difficult to tune in to the game, when points are taken away from you on the finish line.

[sana54210]

Tbis is happening again, their performnace decreased very bady after the decision. Well, the court decided to give the punishment again, reducing points. It, of course, hurts Juventus players and make them not motivated again, likely, no chance again. I am also surprose when seeing both results, the point reduction and also the result of the game, losing 4-1 is bad, moreover 1 of them was from penalty kick

It's hard being a Juventus fan right now. Actually, it is hard to associate with Juventus at all. They have performed really well but while they should have been in the second position of the table they are currently at the 7th.

I really think that they should have been given a big amount of fine. That was going to be enough. At least don't take away points two times in the same season. They could easily give them a fine for the second time. Juventus is not going to have a good mentality right now. They will probably not be able to play in the European League as well, to be honest.

Honestly, they were given 10 points, which is reduced from 15 they were given before. I get that, I understand that it is bad as a fan, you must be feeling terrible about it. However, when you consider that we are talking about a team that were never given a chance before, you should feel happy that they were at least doing better with 5 less points in punishment, and it is not even over yet, they are looking into more stuff and there could be worse stuff coming to them as well.

I guess that it is not going to be simple and we are going to see Juventus not recover from this easily and that's going to be a trouble for a lot of fans and I get that it is going to take a while. Just be patient and I am sure you guys will get better again.

[X-ray]

It was not easy for Mourinho to manage Roma with a very limited squad, especially since their concentration was increasingly divided into the Europa League. Maybe Mourinho doesn't think about it seriously anymore in Serie A, the proof is that he quite often saves his best players and plays more of his second layer players.

Roma is not having good financial. I remember that roma was only giving only a few millions for mourinho as budget for the transfer in summer. Mourinho was running its squads with so many limitation. Being able to go to the final or even win the trophy will become a very big achievement for him with his limited squad in roma. Roma is one step closer to the trophy right now.

As roma was only wasting 7 millions euro in the winter transfer season. I will call that as a magic if mourinho will able to win europa league trophy with that squad.
Mourinho was not able getting what they want during winter transfer season

I see that Mourinho is really focused on the Europa League, he is certainly ready to risk even if Roma fail to win the Europa League. But that's his attitude that everyone should respect. He really is quite a gentleman.

Mourinho is only wasting this time to put all of his focus in europa league. It's caused by europa league the only way to get into UCL.

[piebeyb]

It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

Juventus' defeat today against Empoli, of course, might have been due to frustration or made the players lack the enthusiasm to play. points deduction for the second time after the first time they lost 15 points and finally returned and now reduced again, this looks like a game where it is clear that there is an element of complicity to knock Juventus out of European competition next season.

I think this case or deducting points can be done next season which will be even better considering we have reached the end of the season and Juventus should be Runner Up, but unfortunately they have to lose another 10 points and have to drop to 7th position which of course makes Juventus players too frustrated with this sanction, if later there is an appeal like before and it is returned in my opinion it will be very funny again. lol

[Davian144]

But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.

Now the time is running out for Juventus to fight for this season because Juventus needs to win all the remaining matches for a better place even if it's not for a place in the Champions League because AC Milan will also try to defend itself in the top four after regaining the place by deducting 10 points for Juventus, even though in general I also prefer Juventus to appear in the Champions League next season because Juventus is also a pretty good team this season in Serie A.

[shogun47]

But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.

Now the time is running out for Juventus to fight for this season because Juventus needs to win all the remaining matches for a better place even if it's not for a place in the Champions League because AC Milan will also try to defend itself in the top four after regaining the place by deducting 10 points for Juventus, even though in general I also prefer Juventus to appear in the Champions League next season because Juventus is also a pretty good team this season in Serie A.

That's one problem but I expect an action packed game for Juventus because there is nothing else to play for now and both teams will be playing aggressively. Juventus has to take of several issues in this game. They lost the first leg against AC Milan 2-0, which means if they end up having the same number of points, the two goal difference could become relevant. That is why Juventus should not only go for the win, but also try to equalize the goal difference. Since they have the better statistics overall, this would also provide them with certainty that they would catch AC Milan if they have equal points in the end. There is probably going to be a lot of action and I also expect some tough emotions.

[Uruhara]

It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?

Well I also understand what you mean friend. Because I also thought the same about this. And I feel that the case that happened to Juventus was only made to drag on. I want this problem to be resolved quickly. So that Juventus can be more comfortable to play in the next season. I'm afraid this case won't be finished until next season. and then Juventus were at a disadvantage again as they nearly climbed the top which was thrown back down. To be honest, I prefer Juventus to get tickets to the UCL because in terms of the quality of the game, Juventus are above Inter and AC Milan. it's a bit boring to see AC Milan and Inter Milan back in the UCL next season. I want to see Juventus in UCL.

[Unknown Op]

It's really unfortunate to see how hard Juventus worked to improve their game after being hit with a 15 point deduction.
It's about end of the season, but now face another setback. Despite initially struggling and dropping as low as 13th on the league at one point, Juventus showed incredible resilience and fought their way back up in the rankings. However, with the recent 10 points deduction, it seems like all their efforts have been undone, causing them to drop from 2nd to 7th on the point table. They also have fallen outside of a European spot, it's too bad to handle.

However, the accusations of corruption that have dealt with them long time. Ultimately, they're paying for their mistakes.

Juventus put a lot of effort into raising their game after suffering a 15 point deduction so it is disappointing to see them suffer yet another setback after a more recent 10 point deduction. They clawed their way back up the rankings but it appear that all of their effort were in nothing because they dropped from second to seventh on point table and were no longer eligible for position in Europe. They have finally been caught up in the long running allegation of corruption and they are now being penalised for their error. In order to repair their reputation and reclaim their position among football best Juventus must take these difficulties seriously reflect honestly and pledge to play by the rules.

[masulum]

But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.

The sanctions are like a joke! If Juventus was at fault, why FIGC return the previous 15 Juventus points. If at the time the decision is not final, at least postpone the return of the points. I think, By giving another point deduction to Juventus, and only 10 points, this actually makes Serie A really worse. FIGC looks inconsistent with decisions like this.

[Blitzboy]

It's very funny I think, where they continue to play with Juventus points this season. Previously Juventus was punished with a deduction of 15 points and then reinstated but now, Juventus again received a deduction of 10 points. lol! It was a punishment and/or rule that was very funny and inconsistent I think, because if Juventus are still proven guilty, then they don't need to recover Juventus' points yesterday if in the end Juventus get back the point deduction.

If so, next season Juventus will not be able to compete in European competition because Juventus are currently ranked 7th. What's more, I feel that the Serie A slot for the European League seems to be reduced to just 1 slot, where previously I thought Serie A would get 2 slots for Europa League. lol! Is this because Juventus are still in seventh place, so they are looking for ways to prevent Juventus from playing in European competitions next season?

Man, oh man, it's like watching a tennis match with Juventus' points this season, isn't it? Back and forth, back and forth! It's got more drama than a soap opera! I mean, deduct points, then reinstate them, then deduct them again! What is this, a yo-yo competition? No wonder you're finding it hilarious!

But seriously though, what's up with that? If they were guilty, then the deduction should have stuck in the first place, right? As it stands, they're now teetering on the edge of missing out on European competition next season, which, if I might say so, is a darn shame for a club of Juve's stature. And now, I hear that the Serie A's Europa League slots might be reduced. I mean, what's next? They'll ask Juve to play blindfolded?

[Mame89]

Now the time is running out for Juventus to fight for this season because Juventus needs to win all the remaining matches for a better place even if it's not for a place in the Champions League because AC Milan will also try to defend itself in the top four after regaining the place by deducting 10 points for Juventus, even though in general I also prefer Juventus to appear in the Champions League next season because Juventus is also a pretty good team this season in Serie A.

Juventus used to be victorious for many years because the opposing team was on the bad side due to financial problems. On the one hand, Juventus in that era were actively manipulating finances so that they could spend big but could escape FIGC sanctions. while opposing clubs have difficulty buying big players, indeed this one mafia club (Juventus) should be severely punished for their own behavior.

The FIGC should act decisively, eradicate the football mafia and cheating in sports. The Juventus scandal completely tarnished the Italian League. Luckily this season there are three Italian representatives who are in three different Finals fighting to revive the Italian League in Europe.

Hopefully this will be a valuable lesson for the management of Juventus so that they are better caught up to signs of another scandal. Due to the bad effects of management, Juventus' performance has decreased in Serie A, got points deducted (again), eliminated in the Europa League semifinals, and is almost certain not to play in the Champions League next season. It's really sad the fate of Juventus this season

[rendravolt]

Well, with what happened to Juventus, I think Milan is the only team that really benefited because they did nothing but were able to immediately get a place in 4th place in the standings. Indeed, what Juventus experienced was ironic, they fought with all their might to consistently get good results but unexpectedly it was Milan who finally benefited from this problem.



Talking about these two teams, I think we will be serious about the match between the two, yes, what I mean is that Juventus will play against Milan this week. This is a big match and one of the fates of the two teams will be determined through this match, whether it's Milan who wants a position in the top 4 or Juventus who will try to grab Milan's current position, one ticket to the champions league next season is very hot competition in the end of the season for several teams.

[Uruhara]

Well, with what happened to Juventus, I think Milan is the only team that really benefited because they did nothing but were able to immediately get a place in 4th place in the standings. Indeed, what Juventus experienced was ironic, they fought with all their might to consistently get good results but unexpectedly it was Milan who finally benefited from this problem.



Talking about these two teams, I think we will be serious about the match between the two, yes, what I mean is that Juventus will play against Milan this week. This is a big match and one of the fates of the two teams will be determined through this match, whether it's Milan who wants a position in the top 4 or Juventus who will try to grab Milan's current position, one ticket to the champions league next season is very hot competition in the end of the season for several teams.

Well I hope Juventus will still keep their motivation to win the game and at least get into the European league zone. The Ac Milan vs Juventus match looks like it will be quite fierce. But I will probably be on Juventus' side for this fight. Because this is a home game for Juventus so mentally they should be more profitable as hosts. But with the deduction of 10 points that befell them I'm afraid to make the Juventus players lose their motivation to win. With 2 matches remaining in this season of course anything can still happen. because the difference in points from rank 4 to 7 is not too wide. everything is still possible to change positions in the last 2 matches. So there is no reason for Juventus to give up now after they were thrown back from above.

[Fara Chan]

Well, with what happened to Juventus, I think Milan is the only team that really benefited because they did nothing but were able to immediately get a place in 4th place in the standings. Indeed, what Juventus experienced was ironic, they fought with all their might to consistently get good results but unexpectedly it was Milan who finally benefited from this problem.



Talking about these two teams, I think we will be serious about the match between the two, yes, what I mean is that Juventus will play against Milan this week. This is a big match and one of the fates of the two teams will be determined through this match, whether it's Milan who wants a position in the top 4 or Juventus who will try to grab Milan's current position, one ticket to the champions league next season is very hot competition in the end of the season for several teams.

Yes, Milan is one of the teams that really benefited from the sanctions that Juventus received. Interestingly, these two teams immediately clashed in the 37th giornata. This match will certainly be in the spotlight of many parties, because for both teams this match will be very crucial. Milan, who again have hopes of getting into the Champions League, will again receive a fallow test, defeat will be a hard slap for Pioli's troops because they wasted the golden opportunity they once again had.

Juventus will also not budge and dissolve in sadness because of the punishment they received. The match against Milan will certainly be a top priority for the Old Lady. Victory is an absolute target for them to be able to finish in the European zone. It's not an easy road, but Allegri must offer victory to Juventini as a solace.

[izsara]

But they recently got 15 points back after they were taken away. The same situation could probably happen again. It would be doubly ridiculous if, for example, Milan stayed in the Champions League zone but Juventus got those 10 points back. Then the assholes will be on fire.

The sanctions are like a joke! If Juventus was at fault, why FIGC return the previous 15 Juventus points. If at the time the decision is not final, at least postpone the return of the points. I think, By giving another point deduction to Juventus, and only 10 points, this actually makes Serie A really worse. FIGC looks inconsistent with decisions like this.

In the end, this drama always leaves a question mark because it is their decision when it is called a joke, it is very natural to be considered that way.
Deducting points and then returning them back and now reducing them is like one of the conditions where they are a little inconsistent which in the end this will also invite a lot of reactions in my opinion.
We'll see if Juventus' appeal is successful and their points are returned later.