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July 12, 2023, 07:53:30 PM
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As I said in the point you quoted, all parties without exception management must all be responsible because if it is said to be unfair, it is actually like injustice for players if you see the fault of management.
That's true and everyone involved in management must be held accountable and the mistakes they made last season need not be repeated, as either way the point deduction dealt a massive blow to a player who had struggled to finish in the top five in the standings. But because of strong evidence of the violations they committed, Juventus finally had to give up the opportunity to play in the Champions League due to a point deduction.
Even though some of those responsible have been sanctioned now, there must be more statements and other forms from Juventus so that something like this does not happen again. Fortunately at the moment they are only deducted points in punishment. I can't even imagine if they went down the previous caste how much they would have lost in this case.

Now they must try better to make conditions at the club conducive, at least not making mistakes like previous seasons especially in terms of manipulating player prices it would obviously be very good. At least they would still be in the top 4 if their points weren't deducted by 10 because they would be on the same points as Inter despite losing out on goal productivity and possibly 4th place but that would have been great because they locked up the Champions League but that's now in the past.
Next season we will see how Juventus will try to compete again for the top five positions. Allegri has said to stay at Juventus and this is a good move because they don't need to look for a new coach who can adapt quickly to players, Allegri just needs a few new players for next season as additional strength in his squad and they are also missing several players who leaving this season. Player adjustments will be a step for Juventus on how in the next season they will be able to compete at the top flight.
Currently they are still trying to hunt for players. Ez Abde is still one of the players they are targeting on the other hand Scamacca is also still one of those they want only indeed this seems to be difficult because it seems like Scamacca does not want to be at Juventus and the latest of course we see the struggle for Emil Holm because several big clubs such as Juventus, Inter and Milan joined Atalanta to fight for this player.

For striker, Dusan is still uncertain and Chelsea have a pretty good offer at the moment.

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July 12, 2023, 08:01:02 PM
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Juventus didn't really get this punishment because of any financial crime they did, it was because of super league situation, they wanted to participate in that super league structure and between Uefa and Fifa and their national organization, everyone attacked them and looked for mistakes and they punished for every little thing.
This is a financial crime that made them show numbers differently but at the end of the day they did nothing suspicious on the field, they won the games they won and it wasn't like the decade old one, this was actually a good one. I believe that we are going to end up with a good result one way or another and I think it is going to be a good result for them when they are above all of this and done.

I think talking about if Juventus did deserve the punishment or not actually does not matter anymore. The thing is whatever happened in the past is not going to change. They will have to perform better and prove that they are actually worthy of competing at the top. They did whatever they had to do. And I will say that they have also paid the price. From now on, they will have to be careful so that they don’t get caught up into something similar again.

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July 12, 2023, 08:07:42 PM
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That's right, Dybala's future at Roma is even more secure than at Chelsea and as you said he has always had a starting place under Mourinho's command. Actually, Dybala is still relatively new to joining Roma after being brought in since last season from Juventus, so he still feels he has a responsibility to complete his duties with the Roma wolves. Chelsea are not likely to push Dybala too hard and besides they are now filled with many young players and I think choosing Dybala who is almost 30 years old is certainly not the right choice.
If Dybala is still very suitable and comfortable at AS Roma, I don't think he needs to move to another team for next season either. Especially if the choice is Chelsea, which slumped last season, so obviously it will be very difficult for Dybala to return to develop there with the young players who have been brought to Chelsea. So it would be great if Dybala wanted to continue his career with AS Roma next season by continuing to work together so he could bring AS Roma to a better position than last season.

The thing is Paulo Dybala is quite injury prone right now. So if he does decide to move to the English Premier League, I think it is going to be a problem for him because the competition in the English Premier League is a lot harder compared to the Italian League. So I believe it will be best for him if he plays in the Italian league right now. And to be honest he is actually doing pretty well with Roma. So I don’t see any reason for him to move to another club right now.

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July 12, 2023, 08:19:36 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that the deal between Juventus and UEFA looks like it suits all parties? Juventus in exchange for the removal of all charges (the final closing of the issue) will not participate in a tournament that they do not need in any case (Conference League). From the outside, it looks like another "scheme" and not a triumph of justice. It is obvious that the second part of this scheme is the exit of Juventus from the Superleague.
What a shameful European football - corrupt officials do not even try to hide  Grin

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July 12, 2023, 08:34:38 PM
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That's right, Dybala's future at Roma is even more secure than at Chelsea and as you said he has always had a starting place under Mourinho's command. Actually, Dybala is still relatively new to joining Roma after being brought in since last season from Juventus, so he still feels he has a responsibility to complete his duties with the Roma wolves. Chelsea are not likely to push Dybala too hard and besides they are now filled with many young players and I think choosing Dybala who is almost 30 years old is certainly not the right choice.
If Dybala is still very suitable and comfortable at AS Roma, I don't think he needs to move to another team for next season either. Especially if the choice is Chelsea, which slumped last season, so obviously it will be very difficult for Dybala to return to develop there with the young players who have been brought to Chelsea. So it would be great if Dybala wanted to continue his career with AS Roma next season by continuing to work together so he could bring AS Roma to a better position than last season.

Dybala got everything he needs at Roma and there is no reason for him to leave because he is also working with a famous coach like Muriniho who can help Dybala to achieve his goals, but Dybala was a little bit unlucky in the last games of this season when he got injured in the last weeks and lost some important games.


No, it's not a rumor because in the middle of last season there were many who urged Allegri to leave even for the fans of Juventus themselves they wanted Allegri to leave because of the performance they got.
But gradually, Allegri regained trust and now no one can argue with Allegri for the upcoming season for Juventus.
Currently some players have returned to Juventus after their vacation process and some are completing medical tests for the pre-season tour that Juventus will do.
Now they must make it a point of reference that the previous punishment will not happen again and they must look more at the Scudetto race in a clean way.

Allegri is not going to leave Juventus where he has good performance there and he also could reach his goals if he was not unlucky to lose 10 points this season, otherwise, Allegri and his players could get the ticket for the champions league.


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July 12, 2023, 08:46:48 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that the deal between Juventus and UEFA looks like it suits all parties? Juventus in exchange for the removal of all charges (the final closing of the issue) will not participate in a tournament that they do not need in any case (Conference League). From the outside, it looks like another "scheme" and not a triumph of justice. It is obvious that the second part of this scheme is the exit of Juventus from the Superleague.
What a shameful European football - corrupt officials do not even try to hide  Grin

Wait, has this been officially announced yet? Regarding the Conference League, damn you are right here that that is a deal or would be a deal Juventus doesn't really care about. But the Superleague, wasn't Juventus considering to step back from those plans a while ago already? Or am I confusing that with something else. But it is an interesting option that you are bringing up here that Juventus signs a deal with the UEFA that they will never support any Superleague plans in the future. We won't even know what else has been done perhaps between officials from the UEFA and Juventus. From all that we know about the business from the FIFA, what is the probability that money changed hands that is supposed to not become public ever?  Cool Tongue
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July 12, 2023, 10:26:02 PM
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Maybe PSG start thinking about Victor Osimhen after they lose Mbappe and in this case, Napoli will surely not lose Osimhen easily because we know the Osimhen effect is huge.
I guess still Napoli prefers to keep this player for the next season even if they get the 180m from PSG still, fining a player at this level to fill Osimhen's place for Napoli is not going to be easy.
There have been recent rumors that Napoli are ready to sell Oshimen to PSG if they bring in a very high sum of money. However, this is not likely to happen considering PSG's efforts to do so. This means that Napoli actually did not want to let go of the main striker who won the Serie A league last season. And what's more, PSG might also make this an alternative if Mbappe does leave PSG.


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July 12, 2023, 10:36:00 PM
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No, it's not a rumor because in the middle of last season there were many who urged Allegri to leave even for the fans of Juventus themselves they wanted Allegri to leave because of the performance they got.
But gradually, Allegri regained trust and now no one can argue with Allegri for the upcoming season for Juventus.
Currently some players have returned to Juventus after their vacation process and some are completing medical tests for the pre-season tour that Juventus will do.
Now they must make it a point of reference that the previous punishment will not happen again and they must look more at the Scudetto race in a clean way.
You were right from the start of last season like Nedved and Agnelli who wanted to sack Allegri on the grounds of poor performance but that didn't happen and it was they who resigned. Allegri was criticized by fans at that time for failing to build Juventus on the standings, but Allegri was able to survive due to the support of the player, who gradually improved their performance. Only one thing that made Juventus fail to close the season in the top 4 was the reduction in points dropped at the end of the season.

Allgeri will race with renewed vigor. Even the management of Juventus can almost be said to be filled by a new board after the era of Angelli and Nedved ended. We hope that Allegri can again lead Juventus in a better direction next season and make better signings in this transfer window to add to their strength.

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July 12, 2023, 10:45:54 PM
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If Dybala is still very suitable and comfortable at AS Roma, I don't think he needs to move to another team for next season either. Especially if the choice is Chelsea, which slumped last season, so obviously it will be very difficult for Dybala to return to develop there with the young players who have been brought to Chelsea. So it would be great if Dybala wanted to continue his career with AS Roma next season by continuing to work together so he could bring AS Roma to a better position than last season.

I think Dybala should remain at AS Roma; despite being injury ravaged in his days at Juventus; Dybala has been able to find some form of rhythm in the AS Roma and he did have an excellent season in the Serie A too (by Dybala standards compared to previous seasons.)

Moving away from AS Roma would mean a new training regime, doctors etc; that could hamper his fitness a little bit. Dybala should attain consistency with AS Roma.

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Am I the only one who thinks that the deal between Juventus and UEFA looks like it suits all parties? Juventus in exchange for the removal of all charges (the final closing of the issue) will not participate in a tournament that they do not need in any case (Conference League). From the outside, it looks like another "scheme" and not a triumph of justice. It is obvious that the second part of this scheme is the exit of Juventus from the Superleague.
What a shameful European football - corrupt officials do not even try to hide  Grin

Wait, has this been officially announced yet? Regarding the Conference League, damn you are right here that that is a deal or would be a deal Juventus doesn't really care about. But the Superleague, wasn't Juventus considering to step back from those plans a while ago already? Or am I confusing that with something else. But it is an interesting option that you are bringing up here that Juventus signs a deal with the UEFA that they will never support any Superleague plans in the future. We won't even know what else has been done perhaps between officials from the UEFA and Juventus. From all that we know about the business from the FIFA, what is the probability that money changed hands that is supposed to not become public ever?  Cool Tongue

Yeah, I also read the news about Juventus. They'll not be part of the European Competition when it begins.
But if you ask me, I think it's a perfect one for them to make sure they channel all of them energy Into winning the Seria A. Allegri has been backed strongly by the management and won't be sacked. If they've been found guilty in any of these said, they shouldn't and wouldn't go unpunished. They deserve a two season ban for that if possible.

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July 12, 2023, 11:23:27 PM
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I don't see anyone rumoured to be Milan's new centre-forward these days. Lukaku was rumoured for a short time but it went away. Because Lukaku was prioritizing to join Inter instead. Now Milan don't seem to be in a rush to finish a striker signing. But they had better work on this situation as they are in need of one.

Origi and Giroud can't be reliable anymore. As long as they have big goals in the Serie A they have no other sensible choice other than signing a much more credible striker. A young and talented or a credible experienced striker can be a great use for them. There is already Leao's great contribution and together with it they can be much more productive.

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July 12, 2023, 11:31:40 PM
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I don't see anyone rumoured to be Milan's new centre-forward these days. Lukaku was rumoured for a short time but it went away. Because Lukaku was prioritizing to join Inter instead. Now Milan don't seem to be in a rush to finish a striker signing. But they had better work on this situation as they are in need of one.

Origi and Giroud can't be reliable anymore. As long as they have big goals in the Serie A they have no other sensible choice other than signing a much more credible striker. A young and talented or a credible experienced striker can be a great use for them. There is already Leao's great contribution and together with it they can be much more productive.
Origi couldn't make many big contributions to Ac Milan in the previous season so he was included in the player that Ac Milan will sell in this transfer window. However, it is a bit strange to see that Origi wants to stay with AC Milan and it seems that this has not materialized if we look at his less impressive performance last season. Yes, ac milan needs a center forward for next season, even ac milan has had trouble finding the right player after thuram preferred to join inter milan the previous week.

For that, seeing Giroud who is aging, I think Ac milan must immediately find the right replacement for him. Well the reserve squad also needs to be strong and that is a job they need to focus on in this transfer window. In last season they lost a big moment in the match against inter milan in ucl because at that time Leao was absent but ac milan doesn't have a proper replacement so that gap they have to think carefully about in this transfer window.

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July 12, 2023, 11:43:26 PM
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There have been recent rumors that Napoli are ready to sell Oshimen to PSG if they bring in a very high sum of money. However, this is not likely to happen considering PSG's efforts to do so. This means that Napoli actually did not want to let go of the main striker who won the Serie A league last season. And what's more, PSG might also make this an alternative if Mbappe does leave PSG.
Napoli will not let osimhen leave from the club if its buyer is not wanna paying his release clause. Osimhen's release clause is very high at this moment. Napoli has been also increasing the price for osimhen's release clause.
PSG already rumored to be the only club that will able to buy osimhen by buying his release clause but the fact said different thing right now.

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2023/psg-pushing-to-sign-juventus-dusan-vlahovic/

PSG is now pushing to get vlahovic. The club must compete with chelsea in signing him at this moment. Buying his release clause won't be a big problem. The only problem is still remain exist if PSG needs also to sell mbappe as soon as possible.
Mbappe stated if he didn't wanna leave from the club no matter what's gonna happen with his career in upcoming season.

Khelaifi feels confuses with mbappe. The problem is very complicated as mbappe doesn't wanna give solution.

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July 12, 2023, 11:46:08 PM
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I don't see anyone rumoured to be Milan's new centre-forward these days. Lukaku was rumoured for a short time but it went away. Because Lukaku was prioritizing to join Inter instead. Now Milan don't seem to be in a rush to finish a striker signing. But they had better work on this situation as they are in need of one.

Origi and Giroud can't be reliable anymore. As long as they have big goals in the Serie A they have no other sensible choice other than signing a much more credible striker. A young and talented or a credible experienced striker can be a great use for them. There is already Leao's great contribution and together with it they can be much more productive.
I read about AC Milan trying to find a good substitute for Giroud since he is getting old and they are trying to pick Alvaro Morata from Atletico Madrid or else Mehdi Taremi from Porto. I don't know at which step they are now but it is fondamental to bring a player that like the club and want to see it improving

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July 12, 2023, 11:50:18 PM
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Juventus will be competing without any burden next season. After agreement with FGIC and juventus is now trying to make everything clear by accepting sanction from UEFA for not playing in the competition.
I do put respect for juventus caused by it has admit its guilty. Players and coach have no choice other than accepting it. Im very happy if juventus will not get another sanction in the future. The club has received it all.

Juventus shall not repeat same mistake again.
The mistakes already been done, the old lady's already learnt from their mistakes. Juventus suffered from disappointment this season, and they have nowhere else to place their hope other than resolving the issues and facing the severe punishment that cost them a great deal of financial losses the previous season. But one thing is guaranteed: they will bounce back as long as they strive for more proficient in their performance, since I can't think a top club like Juventus not making it to the UEFA CL berth implies they're completely out of the league of elite clubs to win the scudetto. Massimiliano Allegri intends to make some additions during the transfer window in order to improve his club's performance next season.
I hope juventus can come back stronger again to compete with another club to get scudetto next year. I expect juventus to play better than last season caused by juventus will be playing without burden.
Even though juventus must accept UEFA to ban the club from participating conference league but i don't see it as a serious problem.

Conference league meant nothing for juventus. that's why the club decides fifa to give the club a ban for this year.

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July 13, 2023, 12:32:43 AM
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I don't see anyone rumoured to be Milan's new centre-forward these days. Lukaku was rumoured for a short time but it went away. Because Lukaku was prioritizing to join Inter instead. Now Milan don't seem to be in a rush to finish a striker signing. But they had better work on this situation as they are in need of one.

Origi and Giroud can't be reliable anymore. As long as they have big goals in the Serie A they have no other sensible choice other than signing a much more credible striker. A young and talented or a credible experienced striker can be a great use for them. There is already Leao's great contribution and together with it they can be much more productive.
It's quite strange if we look at Milan's current state there are no rumors regarding a new striker for next season and if you look in the mirror at Origi or Giroud, of course his time is running out. Lukaku doesn't seem to like Milan too much because at Inter he always gains trust. I think Pioli has to think of a new alternative for the attacking position which currently needs regeneration and at least Milan should sign a striker who is still quite young. The talent that Rafael Leao has must be put to good use by Milan and I quite agree he must have a duet partner of the same age who can help contribute in scoring goals in every match.

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July 13, 2023, 12:43:13 AM
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It's quite strange if we look at Milan's current state there are no rumors regarding a new striker for next season and if you look in the mirror at Origi or Giroud, of course his time is running out. Lukaku doesn't seem to like Milan too much because at Inter he always gains trust. I think Pioli has to think of a new alternative for the attacking position which currently needs regeneration and at least Milan should sign a striker who is still quite young.
They fired Paolo Maldini and likely need more time for a new Sport Director. They even have to analyze their failed transfers in the last two seasons as by firing Paolo Maldini, they don't want to get more failed transfers like De Keteleare. They paid big transfer cost for the young player and he did not grow up in San Siro.

AC Milan will mainly use Giroud and Origin when they no longer have Ibrahimovic and Lukaku will not join AC Milan because he loves Inter Milan and he has never been treated badly by Inter Milan and Interista. If Lukaku can not play for Inter Milan in a new season, he will have to find another club which is not AC Milan but he will not return and play for Chelsea.

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The talent that Rafael Leao has must be put to good use by Milan and I quite agree he must have a duet partner of the same age who can help contribute in scoring goals in every match.
Rafael Leao is not a striker and AC Milan will not get his best performance if he uses Leao at the striker position. It will affect their club performance too as Leao can create more pressure on opponent defenders at two swings where he can use his speed to exploit opponent defense system in counter attacking.

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July 13, 2023, 03:10:39 AM
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Origi couldn't make many big contributions to Ac Milan in the previous season so he was included in the player that Ac Milan will sell in this transfer window. However, it is a bit strange to see that Origi wants to stay with AC Milan and it seems that this has not materialized if we look at his less impressive performance last season. Yes, ac milan needs a center forward for next season, even ac milan has had trouble finding the right player after thuram preferred to join inter milan the previous week.

For that, seeing Giroud who is aging, I think Ac milan must immediately find the right replacement for him. Well the reserve squad also needs to be strong and that is a job they need to focus on in this transfer window. In last season they lost a big moment in the match against inter milan in ucl because at that time Leao was absent but ac milan doesn't have a proper replacement so that gap they have to think carefully about in this transfer window.

Stefano Pioli, the manager of AC Milan, is doing everything he can to get the greatest amount out of his players. They're probably not in the best possible form, constantly failing to win Seria A games. The team requires a top striker because their frontline is sedentary, which is likely one of their weaknesses, making it more challenging for them to score goals. Divock Okoth Origi failed to put in an impressive performance at Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, not only him but Olivier Giroud but he bounce back after a longterm injury,  indicating that they struggled the previous season. Perhaps Raphael Leao was my favorite in the club with outstanding performance.

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July 13, 2023, 03:33:57 AM
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I don't see anyone rumoured to be Milan's new centre-forward these days. Lukaku was rumoured for a short time but it went away. Because Lukaku was prioritizing to join Inter instead. Now Milan don't seem to be in a rush to finish a striker signing. But they had better work on this situation as they are in need of one.
Origi and Giroud can't be reliable anymore. As long as they have big goals in the Serie A they have no other sensible choice other than signing a much more credible striker. A young and talented or a credible experienced striker can be a great use for them. There is already Leao's great contribution and together with it they can be much more productive.
I read about AC Milan trying to find a good substitute for Giroud since he is getting old and they are trying to pick Alvaro Morata from Atletico Madrid or else Mehdi Taremi from Porto. I don't know at which step they are now but it is fondamental to bring a player that like the club and want to see it improving

Usually we don't see AC Milan management spending huge amount of money to build the squad. But Serie A's big teams are spending big to strengthen squads. AC Milan management will definitely need to spend money and strengthen the squad if they want to stay in the competition. Giroud is now about 37 years old. The Milan management will have to find a suitable replacement for Giroud this season as well. If not, Milan's performance will deteriorate further next season. Morata could be a good option to replace Giroud.

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July 13, 2023, 04:04:49 AM
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It looks like Inter will be quite active in this transfer window. But would they spend a lot of money on a single player? I don't think so. Even if their financial condition is good now they would still be stingy I think. Because they aren't a team that splurge on a random player. Only if they believe in a player to be the transfer they are looking for then they decide to use their funds much more than the usual. Currently they are trying to sign a goalkeeper and striker as a priority.

For the goalkeeper position they are thinking of Sommer to fill Onana's place as Onana is about to join Manchester United soon. I guess Sommer would like to come rather than being Neuer's substitute.

For the centre-forward position Lukaku is still one of the strongest candidates. As the player also wants Inter it is only up to a reasonable deal between Inter and Chelsea.

I don't think, Inter Milan have financial challenge in this season just that they want to carry out their research to bring in potential players that will help the team to improve higher next season because the result they got from Italian league competition was not encouraging, which they need to do better next season. I believe, inter Milan manager will definitely get a good goalkeeper to replace Onana if he finally join Manchester united because goalkeeper will never be an issues to Inter Milan in this summer. I think, Lukaku show some improvement in the last season to help Inter Milan to scored some goals in some matches which is a sign that he will do better next season if Inter Milan manager can do everything possible to retail him in this summer.

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