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September 29, 2023, 05:58:14 AM
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Saturday 30th September
Lecce 14:00 Napoli
AC Milan 17:00 Lazio
Salernitana 19:45 Inter Milan

Sunday 1st October
Bologna 11:30 Empoli
Udinese 14:00 Genoa
Atalanta 17:00 Juventus
Roma 19:45 Frosinone

Monday 2nd October
Sassuolo 17:30 Monza
Torino 17:30 Verona
Fiorentina 19:45 Cagliari

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Source: https://www.skysports.com/serie-a-fixtures

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September 29, 2023, 06:09:07 AM
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At the end of last season, he publicly told that he and his players deserved more than just a position beyond top four and a runner up in Europa League. He implied that the club should invest more on transfer market which did not happen in the last summer. His contract will expire next summer and with all happened in the summer as well as bad beginning of season, Mourinho likely lost his belief on the club readiness for transfer investment and he will not expand his contract with Roma.
As Mourinho has lost motivation with Roma his article mentions that Roma and himself are bad at the beginning of the season, while from 6 matches 1x won the rest lost and drew it is clear that this is not a good result for Roma who should be in the top 10 of the standings.
I doubt he will last much longer at Roma given that there is no big investment with players that Mourinho expects, is it possible that Mourinho lacks finances so there is no big investment?

With this crushing defeat there have been many losses expecting Roma's victory in betting.
So far this is the worst start for Mourinho in his career. Roma have only 5 points from 6 matches and if not for the defeat of Empoli, I think the Roma management could have already given Mourinho an ultimatum, but for now I think he is somewhat protected from dismissal. There is time to gain points, yes there were no big purchases and Roma, but the squad is very good for Serie A and to compete for the prizes is not too late. the more so that in the match with Genoa Roma was a little unlucky, on shots on goal they were ahead of Genoa, but Genoa shot only 4 times on goal, scored 4 goals! A phenomenal result.


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September 29, 2023, 06:15:13 AM
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@Docnaster while Roma have struggled financially but they did managed to get Mourinho a striker like Lukaku and Sanches and last season they had got Dybala hence it’s up to Mourinho to get the best out of them. Lastly I feel that he’s on borrowed time and 2 - 3 more defeat’s will end his spell with Roma and it won’t be surprising because he often gets sacked in the third season.
You would also agree that these strikers are not some of the best in Europe currently. Renato Sanches and Paulo Dybala can be rated as average players but Roma shouldn't depend on Romelu Lukaku to get the goals. Lukaku has improved slightly but a team like Roma needs something better. If it was not for the financial constraints the club would have gotten better players. So I will agree with @Docnaster that José Mourinho needs more players to make his work easy. He is still a highly respected coach that many clubs will be willing to hire if he is sacked.

I can imagine what my eye saw, when I watched how Genoa a small Italian club with the market value of just around 5M euros, thrashing the AS Roma whose market value is around 22 million euros. And I'm like what's wrong with the latter club. Why can't Roma at least control and stop some of the goals from happening. The goal margin is just much to me to have find the likes of Romelu Lukaku, at the forward strike, Dybala and other top players playing for the club in the game.
I will say it was a lucky day for Genoa to have the first home win for the season. Roma poorly defended and they gave Genoa's striker too much space. Roma's fans turned against their club chanting at Jose and his players demanding some respect. I think the fans have endured a hard time with five points in six matches. Jose has promised to turn things around and I saw him supporting his players after the game. He is still the special one maybe he will perform some miracles.  

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September 29, 2023, 06:19:44 AM
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Roma is in control of the game, but they conceded an early goal in the fifth minutes before they Cristante leveled the score in the 22nd minutes; I think Roma need to improve their style of play in order to win this match because Genoa is playing at home and will try see if they get some points in this match after suffering defeat away from in the last League match against Lecce.

AS Roma fell apart and it was an indescribable performance and total humiliation as Genoa thrash Roma with 4 goals to 1. AS roma started well and git an equalizer through Cristante; after which they conceded 4 unreplied goals!!! The loss means AS Roma are battling relegation crisis at the early stage of the season.

Genoa 4-1 AS Roma
Tell you what, seeing AS Roma lose to Genoa was really something. It made me laugh. Four goals given up with no response? That's more like a team fighting to stay in Serie A than a team they're meant to beat. I was so amazed as I watched Genoa run circles around them. Now, let's talk about Roma. What the heck was that? It was like watching paint dry as they passed the ball around with no plans to attack. That guy Mourinho has a lot of work to do. I really thought he would have made a difference. I would be so mad at him that I would pull my hair out. Things are crazy, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had to fight it out in the lower tier next season if they don't get their act together

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September 29, 2023, 06:45:30 AM
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Roma is in control of the game, but they conceded an early goal in the fifth minutes before they Cristante leveled the score in the 22nd minutes; I think Roma need to improve their style of play in order to win this match because Genoa is playing at home and will try see if they get some points in this match after suffering defeat away from in the last League match against Lecce.

AS Roma fell apart and it was an indescribable performance and total humiliation as Genoa thrash Roma with 4 goals to 1. AS roma started well and git an equalizer through Cristante; after which they conceded 4 unreplied goals!!! The loss means AS Roma are battling relegation crisis at the early stage of the season.

Genoa 4-1 AS Roma
Tell you what, seeing AS Roma lose to Genoa was really something. It made me laugh. Four goals given up with no response? That's more like a team fighting to stay in Serie A than a team they're meant to beat. I was so amazed as I watched Genoa run circles around them. Now, let's talk about Roma. What the heck was that? It was like watching paint dry as they passed the ball around with no plans to attack. That guy Mourinho has a lot of work to do. I really thought he would have made a difference. I would be so mad at him that I would pull my hair out. Things are crazy, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had to fight it out in the lower tier next season if they don't get their act together

Roma is now a relegation team. The level of roma is the same like a relegation club now. Roma is a pathetic club. Pathetic, pathetic and pathetic but yet again goes back to the mourinho as the manager of club. Genoa has better mentality than roma.
That's a fact.
Genoa 4 shots 4 goals, Roma 3 shots 1 goal. Roma ball possession 71% but a fewer goal attempts. roma's so crap. I don't even know what kind of strategy being played by roma.
Passing and backpass. I don't even see the attackers of roma. Roma shall get rid of mourinho but the quality of players is so crap. They don't know what they are doin.

Mourinho goes still have a bit of time to turn the things around. It's a shame for roma to lose against genoa with huge scores.

Lukaku does nothing in this match.

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September 29, 2023, 07:52:45 AM
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Roma was a disaster to say the least yesterday night.I think also this was the most disastrous start of a season so far in his career as a coach while coaching big teams in big leagues.Things are clear now,they are not functioning and most likely Mourinho should be sacked,he can't turn things around most likely and losing with a tennis result against a weaker team is a big red flag at least for me.

It is not yesterday only,yesterday was the focal point but Roma has not been doing well since the start of this season and they are still not doing well,time to change things as the only solution.

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September 29, 2023, 08:09:10 AM
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Roma was a disaster to say the least yesterday night.I think also this was the most disastrous start of a season so far in his career as a coach while coaching big teams in big leagues.Things are clear now,they are not functioning and most likely Mourinho should be sacked,he can't turn things around most likely and losing with a tennis result against a weaker team is a big red flag at least for me.

It is not yesterday only,yesterday was the focal point but Roma has not been doing well since the start of this season and they are still not doing well,time to change things as the only solution.
The defeat suffered by Roma with a score of 4-1 by Genoa was indeed quite a hard blow for Mourinho. But I personally still can't blame the coach for the poor performance shown by the Roma squad. Because Genoa is not an easy opponent to overcome.

We must also remember that Lazio also suffered defeat by Genoa. Then Napoli were also frustrated by being held to a draw by Genoa. So Roma's defeat by Genoa shouldn't come as much of a surprise.

In fact, Roma actually had many opportunities in this match, it's just that the players couldn't take advantage of them well. And Roma's defensive line was also very weak in that match. This is what caused the Roma goal to concede 4 goals.

This season Roma is indeed far from everyone's expectations. But I still believe Mourinho is a high quality coach who can bring good change back to the club.

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September 29, 2023, 08:15:39 AM
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Anyone here betting on Roma? I hope you don't do that. Grin

As we know, Genoa just humiliated Roma in last night's home match which left Jose Mourinho's troops unable to move and were beaten with a score of 4-1. In fact, even though Roma dominated the match, their defense was so chaotic that it was very easy for Genoa to score 4 goals against them.

On the other hand, no one thought that Roma would lose in this match and looking at the results they achieved in the last few matches, this result can be said to be very unstable. Moreover, this result meant that Roma had to be stuck in 16th position again this week.

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September 29, 2023, 08:31:56 AM
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Roma was a disaster to say the least yesterday night.I think also this was the most disastrous start of a season so far in his career as a coach while coaching big teams in big leagues.Things are clear now,they are not functioning and most likely Mourinho should be sacked,he can't turn things around most likely and losing with a tennis result against a weaker team is a big red flag at least for me.

It is not yesterday only,yesterday was the focal point but Roma has not been doing well since the start of this season and they are still not doing well,time to change things as the only solution.
I never thought sacking Mourinho was a good solution and would make Roma much better.
Many people's expectations of Roma this season are too high, many hope they will be at the top for the Scudetto but in fact their performance was really very bad at the start of this season, and I don't see any mistake here because the Roma squad this season is not very good. very different from last season and in my opinion a decline in performance for a team is normal and we just need to wait for time for them to recover.

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September 29, 2023, 08:39:59 AM
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Anyone here betting on Roma? I hope you don't do that. Grin

As we know, Genoa just humiliated Roma in last night's home match which left Jose Mourinho's troops unable to move and were beaten with a score of 4-1. In fact, even though Roma dominated the match, their defense was so chaotic that it was very easy for Genoa to score 4 goals against them.

On the other hand, no one thought that Roma would lose in this match and looking at the results they achieved in the last few matches, this result can be said to be very unstable. Moreover, this result meant that Roma had to be stuck in 16th position again this week.
I think many people bet on AS Roma in that match. Even I personally am also included in it. To be honest, I didn't even suspect that AS Roma would lose in this match. The worst result I expect is a draw. I didn't watch this match in full. I only watched the second half. And I was surprised because it turned out that Roma had lost 2-1 in the first half. But I think that Roma will turn things around in the second half. Because Roma's ball control is also quite good. But it turns out I was wrong. And yeah this is really disappointing. Genoa apparently should not be underestimated. It seems that the 2 teams promoted from Serie B this season are quite high quality. And we should not underestimate it.

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September 29, 2023, 08:41:28 AM
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Roma was a disaster to say the least yesterday night.I think also this was the most disastrous start of a season so far in his career as a coach while coaching big teams in big leagues.Things are clear now,they are not functioning and most likely Mourinho should be sacked,he can't turn things around most likely and losing with a tennis result against a weaker team is a big red flag at least for me.

It is not yesterday only,yesterday was the focal point but Roma has not been doing well since the start of this season and they are still not doing well,time to change things as the only solution.
This embarrassing defeat was certainly enough to tarnish the face of Jose Mourinho as Roma coach. This inconsistent performance has put Mourinho's position in the spotlight again, but The Special One is still quite confident and he is responsible for polishing the Roma squad again so they can get out of their downturn.

But it looks like Mourinho's future with Roma is coming to an end and won't be until the end of the season. Even though Roma has added ammunition in the attack line such as Lukaku, this has not been the case with the condition of the back line. Please note that Rome's defense is very fragile and they don't have the mentality to fight. I think Mourinho should focus on evaluating that position in order to have stability in the match. If you look at Roma's defense, I am pessimistic that they can create something that will please their fans.

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September 29, 2023, 08:49:57 AM
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I never thought sacking Mourinho was a good solution and would make Roma much better.
Many people's expectations of Roma this season are too high, many hope they will be at the top for the Scudetto but in fact their performance was really very bad at the start of this season, and I don't see any mistake here because the Roma squad this season is not very good. very different from last season and in my opinion a decline in performance for a team is normal and we just need to wait for time for them to recover.
That right replacing Jose Mourinho is not the right option, because I don't see that the decline in performance experienced by AS Roma is purely the Portuguese coach fault. If there is a coach who is better than Mourinho at the moment, I don't think he would want to go to replace him. Because management doesn't have enough money to build a capable squad, to make the Roma squad able to compete with other elite clubs in Serie A. So overall Roma current performance is in line with their spending in the transfer market, Lukaku could be a temporary hope because he is a loan player.

Looking at the current situation, it will be very difficult for Roma to finish in the top four, although they will improve in the next few matches. The presence of Inter Milan, AC Milan, Juventus and Napoli makes it difficult for Roma to finish in that position. But if Mourinho gets enough budget in January, Roma will improve in the second half I think.

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September 29, 2023, 09:11:46 AM
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Roma was a disaster to say the least yesterday night.I think also this was the most disastrous start of a season so far in his career as a coach while coaching big teams in big leagues.Things are clear now,they are not functioning and most likely Mourinho should be sacked,he can't turn things around most likely and losing with a tennis result against a weaker team is a big red flag at least for me.

It is not yesterday only,yesterday was the focal point but Roma has not been doing well since the start of this season and they are still not doing well,time to change things as the only solution.
I never thought sacking Mourinho was a good solution and would make Roma much better.
Many people's expectations of Roma this season are too high, many hope they will be at the top for the Scudetto but in fact their performance was really very bad at the start of this season, and I don't see any mistake here because the Roma squad this season is not very good. very different from last season and in my opinion a decline in performance for a team is normal and we just need to wait for time for them to recover.

Since As Roma has decided not to get Jose Mourinho quality and qualified players how do they expect good results Jose Mourinho on his own too has to upgrade with how he plays and his tactics he needs some upgrades. There is no much difference with how his side plays with that of old.
They have the worst results when it comes to comparing the big sides in the seria a.
If things do not go as plan Jose Mourinho will always speak up and when he does it leads to a sack letter.
I never knew having both Dybala and Lukaku can not win them a trophy. They need better support of players. Regarding Osimhen the disrespect and damage has been done they should let him leave if he wants to go for new opportunities.

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September 29, 2023, 09:14:31 AM
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What was that in the Genoa - Roma game? I never expected this bad performance from Roma here despite their starting the season poorly. I mean they were playing against another team with making a similar start. Apart from that Genoa aren't even qualified team as much as Roma in terms of squad quality too.

However Roma were hammered by Genoa 4-1 still.  Sad  Lukaku had a horrible day. Dybala couldn't also make any score contribution. But even if they did this Roma still had huge problems in their defense line. If they concede 4 goals from even Genoa then I don't know what they will do like this.

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September 29, 2023, 09:30:47 AM
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Anyone here betting on Roma? I hope you don't do that. Grin

As we know, Genoa just humiliated Roma in last night's home match which left Jose Mourinho's troops unable to move and were beaten with a score of 4-1. In fact, even though Roma dominated the match, their defense was so chaotic that it was very easy for Genoa to score 4 goals against them.

On the other hand, no one thought that Roma would lose in this match and looking at the results they achieved in the last few matches, this result can be said to be very unstable. Moreover, this result meant that Roma had to be stuck in 16th position again this week.
I think many people bet on AS Roma in that match. Even I personally am also included in it. To be honest, I didn't even suspect that AS Roma would lose in this match. The worst result I expect is a draw. I didn't watch this match in full. I only watched the second half. And I was surprised because it turned out that Roma had lost 2-1 in the first half. But I think that Roma will turn things around in the second half. Because Roma's ball control is also quite good. But it turns out I was wrong. And yeah this is really disappointing. Genoa apparently should not be underestimated. It seems that the 2 teams promoted from Serie B this season are quite high quality. And we should not underestimate it.
In fact, Genoa's victory over Roma would not be too surprising if we look at Genoa's performance when they overcame Lazio and Draw agains Napoli in the previous weeks. Genoa actually performed no better than Roma. It's just the effectiveness of their attacks that we should appreciate. In the match against Napoli, the same thing happened as in the match against Roma. It's just that Napoli's defense is much better than Roma. Meanwhile, Roma's defense is very worrying. Roma was too focused on making attacks. But they were careless in defense.

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Roma was a disaster to say the least yesterday night.I think also this was the most disastrous start of a season so far in his career as a coach while coaching big teams in big leagues.Things are clear now,they are not functioning and most likely Mourinho should be sacked,he can't turn things around most likely and losing with a tennis result against a weaker team is a big red flag at least for me.

It is not yesterday only,yesterday was the focal point but Roma has not been doing well since the start of this season and they are still not doing well,time to change things as the only solution.
A defeat that was quite crushing and not really expected for Roma.
They still have the same problems and Mou still cannot fix this even though there are several new players including Lukaku who are on the field in the end they still have to surrender with a score that is quite heavy.
Genoa played very well and they were clever enough to capitalise on quick counter-attacks when Roma weren't really prepared to withstand them as they were too engrossed in their attacking schemes.
With conditions like this I think Mou has lost control of his position and I wouldn't be too surprised with Mou leaving Roma even though the season is still ongoing.

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September 29, 2023, 09:42:51 AM
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Roma was a disaster to say the least yesterday night.I think also this was the most disastrous start of a season so far in his career as a coach while coaching big teams in big leagues.Things are clear now,they are not functioning and most likely Mourinho should be sacked,he can't turn things around most likely and losing with a tennis result against a weaker team is a big red flag at least for me.

It is not yesterday only,yesterday was the focal point but Roma has not been doing well since the start of this season and they are still not doing well,time to change things as the only solution.
I never thought sacking Mourinho was a good solution and would make Roma much better.
Many people's expectations of Roma this season are too high, many hope they will be at the top for the Scudetto but in fact their performance was really very bad at the start of this season, and I don't see any mistake here because the Roma squad this season is not very good. very different from last season and in my opinion a decline in performance for a team is normal and we just need to wait for time for them to recover.
I agree with what you're saying because the expectations that were too high for Roma had a big impact and the performance dropped dramatically.
Honestly I was also one of the people who had high expectations for Roma before but the reality now is very different from my predictions before the season rolled around.
This is clearly a serious problem from Roma because they still cannot improve their performance, especially in terms of finishing because from the start of the season their finishing has always been problematic and until now Mou is still unable to fix this.
If this is allowed to continue then we may see Roma in a position that is not too suitable for its big name.

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September 29, 2023, 10:52:18 AM
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I think many people bet on AS Roma in that match. Even I personally am also included in it. To be honest, I didn't even suspect that AS Roma would lose in this match. The worst result I expect is a draw. I didn't watch this match in full. I only watched the second half. And I was surprised because it turned out that Roma had lost 2-1 in the first half. But I think that Roma will turn things around in the second half. Because Roma's ball control is also quite good. But it turns out I was wrong. And yeah this is really disappointing. Genoa apparently should not be underestimated. It seems that the 2 teams promoted from Serie B this season are quite high quality. And we should not underestimate it.
Roma's long-standing problem is one that Mourinho can't deal with, the team is too unstable, and what I want to point out is the terrible defensive play. Genoa took 4 shots on target against Roma and scored 4 goals, which is actually a terrible statistic. Mourinier has always been famous for his good defensive play, but not this time. The first two goals Genoa outdid themselves, very fast attacks, one-touch play, such combinations are always difficult for defenders, the third goal was just confusion near the goal. I don’t know what to say, Genoa really played better yesterday.

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September 29, 2023, 11:43:32 AM
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Anyone here betting on Roma? I hope you don't do that. Grin

As we know, Genoa just humiliated Roma in last night's home match which left Jose Mourinho's troops unable to move and were beaten with a score of 4-1. In fact, even though Roma dominated the match, their defense was so chaotic that it was very easy for Genoa to score 4 goals against them.

On the other hand, no one thought that Roma would lose in this match and looking at the results they achieved in the last few matches, this result can be said to be very unstable. Moreover, this result meant that Roma had to be stuck in 16th position again this week.
No, I didn't play, it was obvious this season that Roma could not be trusted. José Mourinho could not start the season consistently, and they lost by a large margin against Genoa. In fact, Roma's offensive line is very strong, and if they did not have problems with defense, their offensive organizations could be successful when they started scoring goals.

Roma did not transfer enough defensive players this season, I cannot say that they made enough transfers. Morinho could not stop coaching Roma at the right time, it is a matter of curiosity how he will spend this season.

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September 29, 2023, 11:58:56 AM
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I think many people bet on AS Roma in that match. Even I personally am also included in it. To be honest, I didn't even suspect that AS Roma would lose in this match. The worst result I expect is a draw. I didn't watch this match in full. I only watched the second half. And I was surprised because it turned out that Roma had lost 2-1 in the first half. But I think that Roma will turn things around in the second half. Because Roma's ball control is also quite good. But it turns out I was wrong. And yeah this is really disappointing. Genoa apparently should not be underestimated. It seems that the 2 teams promoted from Serie B this season are quite high quality. And we should not underestimate it.
Roma's long-standing problem is one that Mourinho can't deal with, the team is too unstable, and what I want to point out is the terrible defensive play. Genoa took 4 shots on target against Roma and scored 4 goals, which is actually a terrible statistic. Mourinier has always been famous for his good defensive play, but not this time. The first two goals Genoa outdid themselves, very fast attacks, one-touch play, such combinations are always difficult for defenders, the third goal was just confusion near the goal. I don’t know what to say, Genoa really played better yesterday.

Yep. Roma is having problems for quite some years now and I don't think Mourinho can solved it this year or on the next one but I'm afraid Mourinho won't stay another year in Rome if he won't manage to make something decent from current squad of Roma. Also, signing Lukaku was a bad idea right ? I mean , he is a good striker but he is nowhere near what As Roma needs right now and he just looks like an extra man when he is on the pitch... .

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