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August 21, 2024, 10:26:53 AM
 #79081

Napoli was utter shite in the game against Verona.

I honestly did not expect Napoli to lose by three goals, truly scandalous from this point of view. It makes me understand that they are in a really bad situation: clearly it is the first match so the considerations I am making are time consuming but it is truly a humiliating result.
Well, that's normal. because of course we all would have never expected that Napoli would lose by a big score without even being able to score a single goal in that match. And what's embarrassing is that their opponents are not strong teams like AC Milan and others who are at the top of the rankings. But their opponent is Verona, which even last season this club failed to break into the top 10 and only finished in 13th place. So everyone would have guessed that Napoli would be the favorites. But in reality it was quite surprising that Napoli conceded a lot of goals in that match.

But we can't make any conclusions yet because it's still too early and it's the opening match of the season where all the teams may not even be fully ready and some teams need to adapt first. But let's see in the second week whether Napoli will continue their bad results or not.











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August 21, 2024, 10:51:17 AM
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Napoli was utter shite in the game against Verona. And it seems Napoli players have struggled to adapt to a new setup every few months. Napoli played from 4 defender, then 5 defender system under Mazzari. Then again, it switched back to 4 defender system under Calzona. Now, it's back to 5 defender system under Conte. It's probably making them confused.
Also, Napoli's defense is worsening. I can't believe how I've seen worse defenders (Juan Jesus, Rrahmani, and Di Lorenzo) play together at the back. And think Juan Jesus is also the worst defender in Serie A too.



There is no reason for players to be confused with a new formation. A coach can decide to change their playing style as a game is going on and players will easily adopt. After all the two players who gave Verona the win Dailon Livramento and Daniel Mosquera, are new players who just came in and adopted the club's playing style.

The problem is that Antonio Conte has not done enough to stabilize the squad. Napoli had to struggle to win Serie B outfit Modena on penalties in the Italian Cup which is disgraceful. We saw a very poor defending side and the attack depended solely on Khvicha Kvaratskhelia. The attack became flat immediately after he was injured by Pawel Dawidowicz. The club needs an attacking reinforcement and the settlement of Victor Osimhen's transfer issues will facilitate it.   

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August 21, 2024, 11:02:41 AM
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There is no reason for players to be confused with a new formation. A coach can decide to change their playing style as a game is going on and players will easily adopt.
When a new coach comes and applies new tactics, players in a club will struggle more or less to adapt to this big change. Even with same tactical format like a previous coach, it's hard to work with a new coach and Conte surely does not have same favorite tactics like latest coaches of Napoli. He does not have an attacking style and Napoli players and fans will have to digest new tactics, and playing style in this season. They need time or a lot of time to have acceptable adaptation to this tactical change.

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The problem is that Antonio Conte has not done enough to stabilize the squad. Napoli had to struggle to win Serie B outfit Modena on penalties in the Italian Cup which is disgraceful. We saw a very poor defending side and the attack depended solely on Khvicha Kvaratskhelia. The attack became flat immediately after he was injured by Pawel Dawidowicz. The club needs an attacking reinforcement and the settlement of Victor Osimhen's transfer issues will facilitate it.   
Both biggest star players of Napoli Kravatskhelia and Osimhen didn't play too well last season and it can be signal that they were controlled better by other clubs in Serie A. Conte can or can not help these players to find new pathways against defenders in Serie A, and with only one match so far, it's not enough for conclusion. The coach and players need to cooperate with each other well to have good performances individually and as a whole team.

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August 21, 2024, 11:10:33 AM
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Well I actually don't think the defender's in this Napoli team is that horrible, it's just boils down to adapting to the playing pattern of Antonio conte, which they are really finding it difficult to graps, ok let's look at the kind of performance that Napoli put in against Verona, do you think this Napoli team is that average to perform so poorly like that?
Though they are actually missing the presence of their star attacker in victor osimhen but his presence wouldn't change and solve all the problems in this Napoli team, so I believe that they will surely improve as the season goes by if they can continue to work in the right direction.
There are still many opportunities and indeed the need for adaptation from several lines, and also Conte still needs the same rights with the scheme that will be used considering the defeat against Verona created so much homework for Napoli and Conte, so this early match can still be understood with the 3-0 defeat from Verona is indeed painful but at least in the next match Conte's team can steal points when hosting Bologna next week.

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August 21, 2024, 12:56:00 PM
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Well I actually don't think the defender's in this Napoli team is that horrible, it's just boils down to adapting to the playing pattern of Antonio conte, which they are really finding it difficult to graps, ok let's look at the kind of performance that Napoli put in against Verona, do you think this Napoli team is that average to perform so poorly like that?
Though they are actually missing the presence of their star attacker in victor osimhen but his presence wouldn't change and solve all the problems in this Napoli team, so I believe that they will surely improve as the season goes by if they can continue to work in the right direction.
There are still many opportunities and indeed the need for adaptation from several lines, and also Conte still needs the same rights with the scheme that will be used considering the defeat against Verona created so much homework for Napoli and Conte, so this early match can still be understood with the 3-0 defeat from Verona is indeed painful but at least in the next match Conte's team can steal points when hosting Bologna next week.
If we understand Napoli's condition better, it's not really a matter of adapting to Conte's strategy, but Napoli's slightly weak defensive performance and it's not certain whether it will last temporarily or whether it needs a change of players.
Although some people still believe that Napoli's defense is not bad, Napoli should have put up a fight against Verona or at least hold a draw.
We can see real evidence that conceding 3 goals is not something small, except 1-0, maybe that makes sense and indicates that Napoli's performance is quite good.
Indeed, this is only the beginning of the season, but we'll see later if they still perform badly against Bologna, I think there is something that needs to be fixed in Napoli's defense.

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August 21, 2024, 01:06:54 PM
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If we understand Napoli's condition better, it's not really a matter of adapting to Conte's strategy, but Napoli's slightly weak defensive performance and it's not certain whether it will last temporarily or whether it needs a change of players.
Although some people still believe that Napoli's defense is not bad, Napoli should have put up a fight against Verona or at least hold a draw.
We can see real evidence that conceding 3 goals is not something small, except 1-0, maybe that makes sense and indicates that Napoli's performance is quite good.
Indeed, this is only the beginning of the season, but we'll see later if they still perform badly against Bologna, I think there is something that needs to be fixed in Napoli's defense.
besides the problem in the defense line, I think the transition when attacking to defending that Napoli implemented was not successful. there was a delay in filling the gaps left when they tried to attack. while they also had problems in finishing.
Conte has a lot of work to do in the Napoli team. it will take time and will not happen in a short time. replacing some players may be a short-term solution, but the coordination of the game between players must be trained much longer.

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August 21, 2024, 01:19:12 PM
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As has been revealed, there is a former senior Barcelona player, Sergi Roberto, who is already full of experience and his position in the back line is very good to improve Como's defense. Then there is a Real Madrid academy player, Nico Paz, who wants to increase his playing minutes in Italy considering that it will be very difficult for him to compete in the main team if he is still at Real Madrid. Then there is one more player from Manchester City, Maximo Perrone and honestly I have never heard of this player.

I saw this news from Fabrizio and I feel it's good news for Fabregas. His team is newly promoted and they do not have the experience or finances to compete with the elite in the league, so I'm not expecting them to win the league or be among the top teams, but they can be a midtable team or just a decent team.
With the addition of Sergi Roberto, I think that can be possible. He's an experienced player who is also good for a midtable club. He knows how to drive the ball into the final third. Nico Paz is also an okay player, I've not watched him but I've seen clips of him and he may be a good addition to Fabregas.

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August 21, 2024, 01:21:06 PM
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 * Parma - AC Milan => AC Milan
 * Inter Milan - Lecce => Inter Milan
 * Fiorentina - Venezia => Fiorentina
 * AS Roma - Empoli => AS Roma
 * Napoli - Bologna => Napoli
 * Hellas Verona - Juventus => Juventus

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August 21, 2024, 01:33:06 PM
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  • Inter Milan - Lecce i will bet on Inter Milan
  • Fiorentina - Venezia i will bet on Fiorentina
  • AS Roma - Empoli i will bet on AS Roma

In my opinion these are easy games, at least I think so. I hope that after the slaps Inter show character and win against Lecce, Fiorentina and Roma should win their respective matches easily, at least I hope so. The championship starts with a bang.

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August 21, 2024, 02:21:01 PM
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It surprises me that i rarely saw people talked about how juventus destroyed Como.



Juventus destroyed Como by a huge margin. And it makes us look miles ahead of a weaker opponent. And it's not the same as last season when we played equally against a weaker team. I feel optimistic about Juventus's team. I think we can compete for the title this season. And our midfield played far better compared to our pre-season games.

Juventus played differently in this game. Their quick passing and good decisions improved their play. Also, Yildiz is my MVP for this game. His ball control and physical presence were amazing. He is only 19, and no doubt Motta gave him number 10.


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August 21, 2024, 03:00:38 PM
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As has been revealed, there is a former senior Barcelona player, Sergi Roberto, who is already full of experience and his position in the back line is very good to improve Como's defense. Then there is a Real Madrid academy player, Nico Paz, who wants to increase his playing minutes in Italy considering that it will be very difficult for him to compete in the main team if he is still at Real Madrid. Then there is one more player from Manchester City, Maximo Perrone and honestly I have never heard of this player.

I saw this news from Fabrizio and I feel it's good news for Fabregas. His team is newly promoted and they do not have the experience or finances to compete with the elite in the league, so I'm not expecting them to win the league or be among the top teams, but they can be a midtable team or just a decent team.
With the addition of Sergi Roberto, I think that can be possible. He's an experienced player who is also good for a midtable club. He knows how to drive the ball into the final third. Nico Paz is also an okay player, I've not watched him but I've seen clips of him and he may be a good addition to Fabregas.
Como continues to make surprises in the summer transfer market, quality players continue to be brought in to strengthen their team after promotion to Serie A. Their first match did not go smoothly, losing to Juventus was something natural because their quality was very different, different results could have been achieved when facing other weaker teams.
The arrival of some new ammunition is very good for Como's development, after overhauling the team completely, Como could be a mid-table team that consistently survives in Serie A. Talking about competing in the top four, I think it's too early for Coma who are adapting to the new competition they are facing, if the management is serious and continues to invest in developing the team, their hopes are very high to compete in the elite position.

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by now he is a player who I think has had his chances to demonstrate the player he is and he has had many and on many occasions he has shown himself to be a player who doesn't put in the effort he seems to not care this is what it seemed to me anyway without taking anything away at Napoli but it seems to me that at this point it is good for him to go there, the other teams don't want him!

I can't deny that 2 seasons ago Lukaku did a phenomenal job to take his team to the final, it was with Inter, but in the final I saw that things didn't go his Way , because the Player ,  I don't Know if it's because he had bad luck or because things really weren't going his way and they never did , of course they were Playing against City but there I saw a decline in him , however one of the things that I liked most about this player is that he drags marks in an impressive way, he's strong, but his weakness is that he gets tired very quickly, for me the average Priority of plays for him should be 20-25 minutes for him to Give his best.

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Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku has made his feelings clear on Chelsea right now by liking a questionable post on Instagram this week.

There is a lot going on at Chelsea right now and there are some genuine criticisms of how Chelsea are treating the players who they clearly want to sell.

Source: https://chelsea.news/2024/08/image-romelu-lukaku-shows-his-feelings-on-chelsea-with-questionable-instagram-like/

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August 21, 2024, 03:12:53 PM
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If we understand Napoli's condition better, it's not really a matter of adapting to Conte's strategy, but Napoli's slightly weak defensive performance and it's not certain whether it will last temporarily or whether it needs a change of players.
Although some people still believe that Napoli's defense is not bad, Napoli should have put up a fight against Verona or at least hold a draw.
We can see real evidence that conceding 3 goals is not something small, except 1-0, maybe that makes sense and indicates that Napoli's performance is quite good.
Indeed, this is only the beginning of the season, but we'll see later if they still perform badly against Bologna, I think there is something that needs to be fixed in Napoli's defense.
besides the problem in the defense line, I think the transition when attacking to defending that Napoli implemented was not successful. there was a delay in filling the gaps left when they tried to attack. while they also had problems in finishing.
Conte has a lot of work to do in the Napoli team. it will take time and will not happen in a short time. replacing some players may be a short-term solution, but the coordination of the game between players must be trained much longer.

Obviously it is certain that it will take Antonio Conte some time before he can be able to put the team together because looking at the humiliating defeat they suffered at Hellas Verona I mean losing 3:0 in the first game of the season is really a bad start for Napoli and just like you said, Napoli are better when they attack more than defend so Antonio Conte needs to restrategize now otherwise this new format will fail him woefully.

It surprises me that i rarely saw people talked about how juventus destroyed Como.



Juventus destroyed Como by a huge margin. And it makes us look miles ahead of a weaker opponent. And it's not the same as last season when we played equally against a weaker team. I feel optimistic about Juventus's team. I think we can compete for the title this season. And our midfield played far better compared to our pre-season games.

There is nothing special about Juventus winning a newly promoted team because Como is just new to the Serie A and it will take them some time before they understand the Serie A so we better hope that Juventus gives a better performance when they face a more stronger opponent. Juventus have been without the Serie A title for about four seasons now so they really need to do things differently this season so that they can win the trophy that they once dominated in the past and it's good to also know that they started the new season with a win regardless of the team involved perhaps it's not also easy to be promoted to the Serie A so Como should be open to reality of how the Serie A works.  Smiley











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August 21, 2024, 04:09:05 PM
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-snip-Napoli had 67% of the ball possession and had a total of 14 shots. On the other hand, Hellas Verona managed to score four goals with only 9 shots. From this it can be understood that both Napoli's defense and forward lineup are quite weak.-snip-
Verona's attack was really effective and they were able to score three goals from 4 shots on target. On the other hand, it seems like Napoli has problems in their defense and attack. Yes, as you said, Conte must be able to evaluate the defense and make some improvements in the front line.

-snip-perhaps it's not also easy to be promoted to the Serie A so Como should be open to reality of how the Serie A works.  Smiley
COMO have made a lot of signings when they were promoted to Serie A. I think this is a good move by the management because Serie A is a very different level from Serie B. But unfortunately it is still not good enough to compete at the top of the standings. But IMO this is only the first match, and their opponent is Juventus who really wants the title this season. I expect COMO to be able to compete in the middle of the standings this season.











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August 21, 2024, 04:23:34 PM
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It surprises me that i rarely saw people talked about how juventus destroyed Como.



Juventus destroyed Como by a huge margin. And it makes us look miles ahead of a weaker opponent. And it's not the same as last season when we played equally against a weaker team. I feel optimistic about Juventus's team. I think we can compete for the title this season. And our midfield played far better compared to our pre-season games.

There is nothing special about Juventus winning a newly promoted team because Como is just new to the Serie A and it will take them some time before they understand the Serie A so we better hope that Juventus gives a better performance when they face a more stronger opponent. Juventus have been without the Serie A title for about four seasons now so they really need to do things differently this season so that they can win the trophy that they once dominated in the past and it's good to also know that they started the new season with a win regardless of the team involved perhaps it's not also easy to be promoted to the Serie A so Como should be open to reality of how the Serie A works.  Smiley
It is natural with Juventus' victory with this big score, although the opponent faced is a club that is still relatively weak compared to Juventus who has star players, but it seems that Juventus is much better than in the pre-season yesterday and has not been seen when meeting a club that is equal to the way it plays or the strength of each club, it is true that there is nothing special in this match and everyone will know who will come out as the winner in the match, COMO is still too early to be in Serie A, not underestimating the opponent but everyone knows that the comparison that Juventus and Como have is very different in the quality of their players.

There was no significant resistance in the early minutes until the last 90 minutes Juventus continued to provide threats that made it difficult for COMO so it is natural that Juventus easily got points in the match.

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* Parma - AC Milan => AC Milan
 * Inter Milan - Lecce => Inter Milan
 * Fiorentina - Venezia => Fiorentina
 * AS Roma - Empoli => AS Roma
 * Napoli - Bologna => Napoli
 * Hellas Verona - Juventus => Juventus

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Looks like a sure win but we are still in the early days of the new season so there is still many possibilities that may happen in that matches.
Just like the what we can see the fact that there are only 4 teams that can win in the first week of the new season, big team like AC Milan, Inter Milan, Roma, Napoli that failed to win their first match.
Verona vs Juventus is nice match to watch, Verona could beat Napoli with 3 goals margin while Juventus also won against Como with the same goal margin.
Looking at the statistic and the squad, Juventus is favorite no doubt about it but we all know that anything may happen in football match.

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August 21, 2024, 04:54:03 PM
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It surprises me that i rarely saw people talked about how juventus destroyed Como.

Juventus destroyed Como by a huge margin. And it makes us look miles ahead of a weaker opponent. And it's not the same as last season when we played equally against a weaker team. I feel optimistic about Juventus's team. I think we can compete for the title this season. And our midfield played far better compared to our pre-season games.

Juventus played differently in this game. Their quick passing and good decisions improved their play. Also, Yildiz is my MVP for this game. His ball control and physical presence were amazing. He is only 19, and no doubt Motta gave him number 10.


Como is a promoted team this season, the difference in strength between the two teams is already clear, Como relies heavily on old players whose performance can be said to be no longer competitive, just look at their defense line, Como fielded players who are already 30 years old, even the goalkeeper is already 41 years old, Como is trying their luck in Serie A and that's funny. It's only natural that Juventus achieves good results, but don't take that as a benchmark, it's not a guarantee and don't be too optimistic, this is only the first week, let's see in the second match against Verona, can Juventus achieve satisfactory results?

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* Parma - AC Milan => AC Milan
 * Inter Milan - Lecce => Inter Milan
 * Fiorentina - Venezia => Fiorentina
 * AS Roma - Empoli => AS Roma
 * Napoli - Bologna => Napoli
 * Hellas Verona - Juventus => Juventus

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If it is a parlay bet, it seems like you will lose because at least, I personally cannot underestimate Parma and also, I still doubt Napoli or maybe Juventus will have difficulties, who knows. Although indeed,  if we only consider about the top Serie A teams, then that choice is a good choice.  But at least,because in the first week the results were not as easy as imagined,then I also think the results in the second week will not be as easy as imagined.

But yes, hopefully you can be lucky to get a win for the parlay bet. But at least,n to find a safe way I think a single bet can also be a goodchoice because honestly,  I personally still have bigdoubts about Napoli. Although Napoli will play at home, but there is still no guarantee for Napoli to win with the way Conte made mistakes in the previous match.

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Where does this Como team get their money? They already spent 40 million on some players, and they are still looking to get some more players as well and I feel like we are going to probably see them not have anything good for a while neither, not like they will win the league or something. So that means someone is willing to pay for all of this, even with the idea that they are not going to make any of it, which makes no sense to me at all.

I believe that they should be considering to make some money, and not spend this much this quickly because getting this big too quickly would only hurt them financially. I am sure there must be some rich owner backing this up, but they can't sustain this if they keep going the same way.

Even a free agent has salary that you have to pay, which means that they are going to be paying so much for salaries and there is absolutely no way that they could make the salaries back alone, and consider how much more they have to pay for a team to just exist. This is wrong, and while I do like teams go from bottom to top, this team is not a good example of that. If they can continue to spend that's fine, but if they will suck in a few seasons that's a bad move.

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August 21, 2024, 05:55:43 PM
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Where does this Como team get their money? They already spent 40 million on some players, and they are still looking to get some more players as well and I feel like we are going to probably see them not have anything good for a while neither, not like they will win the league or something. So that means someone is willing to pay for all of this, even with the idea that they are not going to make any of it, which makes no sense to me at all
The owner of FC Como is Hartono brothers and they are businessmen and rich people from Indonesia and since taking over Como on 2019 they did a lot for Como because at that time Como almost bankrupt but Hartono brothers are willing to spend a lot of money to improve the club's facilities and also recover the finances of Como and this also makes Como eventually can return to Serie A again with their current manager Cesc Fàbregas

Como so far have already gets 13 players total this summer and i am sure they have already to stopped and won't buy more players again but i can says so far these transfers is not too effective and still haven't give positive impact for the club because Como have to eliminate early on Coppa Italy and they also lost with big scores from Juventus

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