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December 02, 2024, 04:55:42 PM
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Tomorrow at the Allianz Arena, German Bundesliga leaders will host reigning German champions Bayer Leverkusen in the DFB-Pokal. For Xabi Alonso's men, they've not be able to maintain their dominance in the German football like they did last season where they won the domestic double while for Bayern Munich, they've significantly improved from their performances of last season.
I think the home team will get the better of their visitors but will want to read your thoughts about that game. Who do you think is going to win that match?

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December 02, 2024, 05:25:29 PM
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Frankfurt have the opportunity to continue to extend runners up position. No need to target trophies, they just need to focus on doing the Bundesliga as much as possible because Bayern Munich will be busy with their own schedule which is likely to lose stability. I still believe Frankfurt will be longer in that position and don't be surprised if Frankfurt can finish in first place.  Grin

There are always surprises in every league and that's hard to predict. Frankfurt may still have the same chances as the others because there will still be many matches. But remember there is a great opportunity to improve strength by taking advantage of the winter transfer market. Currently, only Munich has an undefeated record, the difference in points with Frankfrut is 4 points. So Munich must be able to minimize mistakes, a draw against Dortmund is not a bad thing. I still feel confident that Munich is a strong candidate for the Bundesliga title this season.
Bayern Munich has a pretty high chance of winning the trophy again this season, Eintracht Frankfurt as their closest rivals seem unable to put significant pressure. I even think Kompany squad unbeaten record will be maintained in the future, and they will most likely avoid a surprising defeat at the domestic level. However, entering the second half of the season, Bayern Munich efforts to maintain the top of the standings are getting harder, each team will clearly take advantage of the January transfer market to increase their strength. I hope Leverkusen and Dortmund can rise in the future, and join the trophy race.
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December 02, 2024, 06:07:27 PM
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This was the biggest surprising result in Germany bundesliga this weekend with Leipzig losing 1:5 at home to Wolfsburg.
Leipzig is in one of their worst form of the season they are not doing well even in Europe they really need to step up their game if they plan on playing in Europe next season
Yes i agree that this result against Wolfsburg was a very big and unexpected surprise in the German League.
I thought that Leipzig will be win that game home , and to be honest i dont know whats going on at the Moment in Leipzig.
In the German League they are not that bad but havnt won a single game in the Champions League is disappointing.

It's now obvious that Frankfurt is trying to prove themselves as the title contender with Bayern Munich and Leverkusen.
From previous seasons, Frankfurt has really transformed from being an average team to a more solid team capable of challenging the top and favourites.
They have done that already in the last 2 years for and when they won the Europa League.
The last years they have improved there team and there playing.
And to be honest without the great and awesome form from Omar Marmoush and Hugo Ekitike and others this season they would be not where they are right now.
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December 02, 2024, 06:13:33 PM
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They never had the mentality of winning that encounter, imagine leading by a goal and they all started defending against a team that loves to fall all out whenever they sees their opponent defending, that's not how to play against Bayern Munich if you want to win. I do blame some of the other clubs who are the contenders for the Bundesliga title, they're not making enough effort to mount pressure on the league leaders (Bayern Munich), they lose and draw when they are suppose to get a complete point. Even the Barbarians are not as good as they used to be, to me I still see those teams from number 1 spot to 5 as equal, non of them has that force of winning straight 5 games without dropping point.

I agree with you. Dortmund did not have a winning mentality. If they had a winning mentality, Dortmund players would have played in an attacking style throughout the match. After scoring a goal, Dortmund players did not try to score more goals. Dortmund played defensively. And tried to end the match at 1-0 or 1-1.

Dortmund cannot be called a very strong team this season. Dortmund's performance has been very inconsistent since the beginning of the season. So Dortmund had little chance of getting 3 points against a strong team like Bayern Munich. Even then, Dortmund was tactical in this match. So they managed to get 1 point from the match. Honestly, we expected Bayern Munich to win in this match. But in the end, Dortmund got 1 point from the match. However, if Dortmund had also played in an attacking style, the match would have been more exciting.

Playing against a more attacking side like Bayern Munich shouldn't be only defending, is all about attack attack attack. A 1nil lead is never going to decide who's going to be the winner not while you have about 45'mins more to play. No wonder better players don't stay long in the team instead they leave and it helps them win trophies they could not win with the team. Dortmund has never been a stronger team ever since they couldn't get that trophy off Bayern, if they couldn't get 3pt in this first leg I don't think a point can be gotten in the return leg because Bayern would want to maintain that spot that's if they'll still be at the top and we all know that Dortmund can never be relied on to stop Bayern Munich from winning the trophy this season.

 
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December 02, 2024, 06:23:01 PM
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Bayer Leverkusen unbeaten run campaign that led to their winning the bundesliga last season wasn't anything of luck but was due their hardwork and high spirited the players were with every game played that season. Luck doesn't flow in that way  recurring in straight 34 matches in a season.  It rather makes sense to say that Xabi Alonso's tactics and strategy has been studied by other teams and which is what makes this season looking difficult for them repeat their unbeaten campaign.

Repeating an unbeaten run is not an easy task, no team has done it back to back before, is it’s not surprising that Bayern Leverkusen can still do it this season after they’ve been well studied by their opponents in the league. It will be a thing of shame to see them repeating the same team and all other teams in the league are not doing anything about it. Bayern Leverkusen indeed did well last season and their performance this season is also not fall of been poor, they’ll do better in this season also even if they won’t be able to have a very big impact like they did last season. Bayern Leverkusen strategy this season should have rather being changed that no team can understand them also this seaosn but it’s not an easy task to come up with new strategy and it works well for you immediately like it did in the past. They will still finish this season in a good position and I’m not in doubt of their competency in the league this season too.











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December 02, 2024, 06:36:15 PM
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I don't think winning the Bundesliga title without ever losing can be called lucky. It was Leverkusen's hard work last season and they deserved it. This season Xabi Alonso's troops are indeed struggling, their performance decline is clearly visible and what is wrong with Leverkusen now is in their fragile defense, we can see from 12 matches they have conceded 19 goals. You can't compete competitively if the defense you create is easy for your opponent to pass.
Agree with you. Leverkusen's success last season was not a matter of luck but it was because of their hard work to continue to maintain their performance and at that time the spirit of all Leverkusen players was burning, including the coach. So winning the league without losing was not a matter of luck, it was the result of hard work so that they could be consistent until the end of the season. If Leverkusen this season is a little down, it is natural, because it is very difficult for a team to maintain the same success as last season besides this season Bayern Munich has indeed performed very impressively under Kompany's guidance.

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And regarding the Bayern Munich match, we will agree that 3 points should be easy for Kompany's troops to get. On paper Heidenheim is not a tough opponent but that doesn't mean they came to lose, unexpected things can also happen.
Of course this match will belong to Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich will win easily in the match against Heidenheim, especially playing in front of their own supporters. Kompany's mission this season is to appear consistently in the league so that the points difference is wider than his competitors and then he can focus on the UCL league.

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December 02, 2024, 06:58:56 PM
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For Dortmund, a draw is more than enough because so far their performance has not been very stable and facing the top team, they will definitely try to play for one point rather than chasing three points but in the end losing everything. Dortmund knows very well how they should try to get one point rather than chasing a win and they also did not play too aggressively because it would have resulted in much worse. Dortmund is stuck in fifth place with 20 points and I am sure they will focus on chasing the top three positions in the standings because the points difference with RB Leipzig and Leverkusen is not far to catch up.
Dortmund is only one point behind RB Leipzig and three points with Bayer Leverkusen in the current Bundesliga standings, but Dortmund still has the same points as Freiburg which means Dortmund still has to win in the upcoming matches if Dortmund wants to chase the top three in the coming weeks. I also think Dortmund is a little smarter when they are able to draw with a top team like Bayern Munich although the result still does not change Bayern Munich's position in the Bundesliga standings.
Borussia Dortmund full strength football team will play next match against Borussia Mönchengladbach team and we will watch this match with full exciteness. Borussia Dortmund team has good standing and that team is present at 5 position and Borussia Mönchengladbach team has 10th position. RB Leipzig team has 21 points on table and that team will play next match against Eintracht Frankfurt and that match will be high voltage match and millions of people will watch this match. Eintracht Frankfurt has  2nd  position on  table and that team has 26 points . Leverkusen football team will play next match against Bayern football team and we will watch all these matches and after the points table will be change.

 
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December 02, 2024, 07:14:30 PM
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Playing against a more attacking side like Bayern Munich shouldn't be only defending, is all about attack attack attack. A 1nil lead is never going to decide who's going to be the winner not while you have about 45'mins more to play. No wonder better players don't stay long in the team instead they leave and it helps them win trophies they could not win with the team. Dortmund has never been a stronger team ever since they couldn't get that trophy off Bayern, if they couldn't get 3pt in this first leg I don't think a point can be gotten in the return leg because Bayern would want to maintain that spot that's if they'll still be at the top and we all know that Dortmund can never be relied on to stop Bayern Munich from winning the trophy this season.

I don't think you should be attacking always when playing against a team that you know is better than you and they love to score lots of goals. You should be defending and when the opportunity comes out then you counter attack to get your own goal and go back to defending. Playing against Bayern Munich and attacking them without focusing on defense, you'll concede alot of goals and then lose the match in a large margin but if you're defending and you still lose. It isn't going to be too much losses. The strategy should be simple when playing against Bayern Munich, wait for them to make a mistake and make them pay for it. Don't try to go toe to toe with them unless you're as strong as they're too.

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December 02, 2024, 07:30:13 PM
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You have been talking a lot of nonsense in your post and it comes as no surprise that the weak team has not lost the game against Bayern Munich. One reason could be that Dortmund has not lost a game at home this season and they are now at 6 wins and 1 draw in their home stadium. While they have been inconsistent across all games they have played so far, their home record is more than solid and Bayern Munich was not able to break it, but I am sure you knew it because you did a least amount of research before you decided to post anything.
Borrusia Dortmund ranked 5th position after dropping points in league games this season. They're not ambitious enough to handle the tough decision this season I guess. Nuri Sahin is competent for the long competitive race, there's every chance for the Dortmund to explore this season because they have close ranging sights for the title race. Bundesliga is competitive league, we're able to corner the main competitors. Borrusia Dortmund couldn't maintain their formidable ground when they face Bayern Munich previous weekend. The Bavarians are always eligible to trigger peak form.

 
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December 02, 2024, 08:50:31 PM
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Bayern Munich has a pretty high chance of winning the trophy again this season, Eintracht Frankfurt as their closest rivals seem unable to put significant pressure. I even think Kompany squad unbeaten record will be maintained in the future, and they will most likely avoid a surprising defeat at the domestic level. However, entering the second half of the season, Bayern Munich efforts to maintain the top of the standings are getting harder, each team will clearly take advantage of the January transfer market to increase their strength. I hope Leverkusen and Dortmund can rise in the future, and join the trophy race.
Yeah, the gap is now four points even after the draw, I am pretty sure that they are not going to be too much of a problem for Bayern Munich at all, they are doing fine but they are not really doing THAT much better.

Also Frankfurt is doing great at Europa League too, which means they will go deep this season, and that means a lot of games, plus with the domestic cup as well, players will get to 50+ games, and that's causing fatigue for players, the ones like Bayern that have deep enough squad for the league, won't face the same issues, but Frankfurt is barely great with their starting team, so if they get a few injuries then things could change a lot and we could end up with a bigger gap the more game is played up.
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December 02, 2024, 09:08:03 PM
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What do you think about the German Clasico that will now take place in the German Cup format tomorrow? The bookmakers see this game like this at the moment:

1.72 - 3.70 - 4.10

Bayern have zero defeats in the Bundesliga, while Bayer have one, so it looks like we should bet on a draw? Moreover, judging by the teams’ performance, the score will most likely be 1-1.
Seeing from Bayern who have been consistent until now, especially for this big match at the Alianz Arena, I think it is quite reasonable when the odds show an advantage for Bayern, because after all for now sometimes the probability is not only determined by performance but from home matches also applies, especially at this time Leverkusen are also in a condition that I think is quite stagnant in terms of performance because they seem to have difficulty making good momentum to support their consistency.

But in this case I think it will be more worth it to bet on both clubs to score than to force at 1x2.
It is true that Bayern still looks very superior now, it's just that seeing from the situation that occurs where Leverkusen is sometimes unpredictable, especially this is the DfB which in fact is sometimes considered a competition that is not too prioritised, it could be a massive rotation for Bayern in this match.


 
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December 02, 2024, 09:12:42 PM
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It's definitely a good situation for Dortmund to get a good tie, that was something I could definitely see as a win for them, getting even one point here is a huge deal and definitely a positive for them, without this game I am sure that they would be in bigger trouble. Yeah Dortmund has only 20 points in 12 games, not great, I would say at least 24 would be better, it would be 2 points per game, which is something they should aim for the long term, that's at least the best they can do, they could do even better but that's what their goal should be.

With this current standings, they are only three points behind third place Leverkusen, I feel like they could do fine, and being in top four should be enough for Dortmund at the end of the season anyway.

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December 02, 2024, 09:13:53 PM
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Tomorrow at the Allianz Arena, German Bundesliga leaders will host reigning German champions Bayer Leverkusen in the DFB-Pokal. For Xabi Alonso's men, they've not be able to maintain their dominance in the German football like they did last season where they won the domestic double while for Bayern Munich, they've significantly improved from their performances of last season.
I think the home team will get the better of their visitors but will want to read your thoughts about that game. Who do you think is going to win that match?

It's actually going to be a fascinating encounter between these two teams no doubt, I think that where the games will be lost and won in this game is between the two coaches, the tactical impetus of either xabi Alonso or Vincent company will determine who is actually going to take the days.
I am actually a big fan of Bayern Munich, this season they are way better than last season, and if you look at their performance against the top teams, I think they have done pretty fine, so I believe that if they can put in a dominant performance as they usually does, they will certainly carry the day, because Bayern Leverkusen is not as good as they were last season, let's just watch and see.

 
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December 03, 2024, 01:03:31 AM
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It's definitely a good situation for Dortmund to get a good tie, that was something I could definitely see as a win for them, getting even one point here is a huge deal and definitely a positive for them, without this game I am sure that they would be in bigger trouble. Yeah Dortmund has only 20 points in 12 games, not great, I would say at least 24 would be better, it would be 2 points per game, which is something they should aim for the long term, that's at least the best they can do, they could do even better but that's what their goal should be.

With this current standings, they are only three points behind third place Leverkusen, I feel like they could do fine, and being in top four should be enough for Dortmund at the end of the season anyway.
Getting good result was very good for Dortmund and even getting one point was big deal. This result helps Dortmund situation and without it they would probably be in even tougher spot. Dortmund current position in standings is not great but they still have a lot to play for. They have 20 points from 12 games which is not ideal. They should try to get at least two points per game to be stronger. Getting good result in this game was very important and it helps them stay close to top four. They are only three points behind third place Leverkusen so they have good chance of finishing in top four which is their goal for season. This would be good outcome considering how they are doing now.

 
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December 03, 2024, 01:30:54 AM
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Musiala really saved Bayern Munich yesterday.  Smiley  I wasn't expecting them to have such a struggle honestly. The first half was balanced but in the second half they completely controlled the game. However still there was no comeback at the end. Dortmund resisted those dangerous attacks really well but there was still something wrong with the way they played of course.

Why would you play so scared after getting ahead?  Huh  I know Bayern Munich were doing much better in the league but still you are also Dortmund. You have nothing to be afraid of as technically they are your rival.
Luckily Jamal Musiala was able to score a goal in the last minutes so that Bayern Munich did not experience defeat in this match, a draw is a fair result for both teams who are sworn rivals, Bayern Munich has not recorded a defeat so far in the 12 matches they have played and is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with a 7-point advantage over the runner-up. But I wonder why in the Champions League Bayern Munich is not as strong as in previous seasons, usually Bayern does experience consistent wins in the first half but this season Bayern has lost several points in the UCL due to several defeats and fight hard to qualify for the next round.
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December 03, 2024, 02:19:04 AM
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Luckily Jamal Musiala was able to score a goal in the last minutes so that Bayern Munich did not experience defeat in this match, a draw is a fair result for both teams who are sworn rivals, Bayern Munich has not recorded a defeat so far in the 12 matches they have played and is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with a 7-point advantage over the runner-up.

It was a process, Musiala worked hard for that goal. Currently Munich is facing a new problem. Kane has a muscle injury, maybe he will rest in a few matches. Kompany has many options, but not all of them are able to give Kompany great confidence. They have Muller, Gnabry, and Mathys Tel. Maybe Kompany is forced to play one of them for the 9th position. I think Kompany has worked hard and the League is the main target and for the UCL it is probably second. Munich will play Leverkusen in the DFB Pokal in the knockout phase of the last 16.

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December 03, 2024, 05:35:01 AM
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You have been talking a lot of nonsense in your post and it comes as no surprise that the weak team has not lost the game against Bayern Munich. One reason could be that Dortmund has not lost a game at home this season and they are now at 6 wins and 1 draw in their home stadium. While they have been inconsistent across all games they have played so far, their home record is more than solid and Bayern Munich was not able to break it, but I am sure you knew it because you did a least amount of research before you decided to post anything.
Borrusia Dortmund ranked 5th position after dropping points in league games this season. They're not ambitious enough to handle the tough decision this season I guess. Nuri Sahin is competent for the long competitive race, there's every chance for the Dortmund to explore this season because they have close ranging sights for the title race. Bundesliga is competitive league, we're able to corner the main competitors. Borrusia Dortmund couldn't maintain their formidable ground when they face Bayern Munich previous weekend. The Bavarians are always eligible to trigger peak form.

Nuri Sahin is competent for the long competitive race,  Cheesy... Is that because of his impressive track record of achievements that you think he is the one who knows how to play the long game? Nuri Sahin has nothing to present, no titles whatsoever, no relegation or promotion fights with any club. He is a little kid as a coach having been lucky to be given the head coach position in a club he played for and that club, to his luck, is a pretty good club internationally. It is not one of the best, but still a very good club. He knows nothing about the long game and he knows nothing about coaching top players. He doesn't know how to improve players systemically and he doesn't know how to find the right words in halftimes. I am not convinced as you can tell from my post, but let me know what convinces you of him.
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December 03, 2024, 05:59:24 AM
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Musiala really saved Bayern Munich yesterday.  Smiley  I wasn't expecting them to have such a struggle honestly. The first half was balanced but in the second half they completely controlled the game. However still there was no comeback at the end. Dortmund resisted those dangerous attacks really well but there was still something wrong with the way they played of course.

Why would you play so scared after getting ahead?  Huh  I know Bayern Munich were doing much better in the league but still you are also Dortmund. You have nothing to be afraid of as technically they are your rival.
Luckily Jamal Musiala was able to score a goal in the last minutes so that Bayern Munich did not experience defeat in this match, a draw is a fair result for both teams who are sworn rivals, Bayern Munich has not recorded a defeat so far in the 12 matches they have played and is increasingly solid at the top of the standings with a 7-point advantage over the runner-up. But I wonder why in the Champions League Bayern Munich is not as strong as in previous seasons, usually Bayern does experience consistent wins in the first half but this season Bayern has lost several points in the UCL due to several defeats and fight hard to qualify for the next round.

Bayern Munich is not going anywhere in Champion league this season, I know they are in a good position in the Champion league but I don't think they can reach even semi-final stage, In the last match of Bayern Munich against Dortmund Bayern Munich suffer because they find it difficult to score a goal in the match, in the last minutes Musiala score to equalize and the game end draw, before the match I said that it will be very difficult for Bayern Munich to win the match because Dortmund is very strong in their home this season.

The match also shows that Harry Kane is the goal scorer for Bayern Munich because as Harry Kane was sub off when he his injury there was no one to replace the position again him to score a goal for Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich is still the one at the top of the league table and it shows that they are the favorite to win the league title this season because they are leading all the remaining teams with a lot of points, Leverkusen and Bayern Munich will play today In DFB pokal and if Bayern Munich did not take care Leverkusen will defeat them because Harry Kane is injured and no one to score a goal for them.

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December 03, 2024, 08:42:57 AM
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I don't get it what happend to Leipzig because recently they have displayed poor performance and so far Leipzig has been unable to win in the last 6 matches and the latest is today that surprisingly Leipzig lost from Wolfsburg with huge scores and i think this is dissapointing and conceded 5 goals in a single match has been showing there is a problem with Leipzig defensive lines however at the beginning of season Leipzig have displayed impressive performance even at that time they can able to occupy 2nd place and because they were suffering several loses then Leipzig position dropped to 4th place and if this situation continues i am sure Leipzig will be out from top 4

It is a big losing streak here, but it is one thing to lose games like 1-2 or be unlucky in the Champions League, and another thing is when it looks as if the team stops playing football completely like against Wolfsburg. It can't be that the quality is gone out of a sudden because it is not, but in this case I am of the impression that Rose is done because he can't get into the players' heads anymore. Now it was portrayed that they protected him from getting sacked, which is a good gesture on the one hand because they take responsibility, but on the other hand why do they let it happen in the first place. Wolfsburg is an average club from Germany, this wasn't Real Madrid.

But I think Leipzig will recover from that as they are a pretty healthy club in the most important aspects. Rose might not be the right man though to lead them to sustained success.
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December 03, 2024, 10:04:50 AM
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They are not doing badly and that is something that I think everyone deserves , from the fans to the last one who works at the club, for me Bayern is one of the best in the world , Leverkusen has not been able to maintain its good Streak , it seems Xabi Alonso is having problems to be able to get good results , what could be affecting him? it is strange, perhaps knowing that Maybe next season he could go to a Madrid of his beloved? we do not know, but it could be an imminent Reality.
Yeah, despite the level of performance Leverkusen pulled off last season winning the bundesliga trophy without losing a single league match, still, they don't match in comparison with Bayern Munich who have won the bundesliga back to back, whereas Leverkusen by way of their drop in form this season doesn't seem like they could pull such show because right now they're sitting 7 points beneath Bayern Munich and am convinced Munich isn't dropping points for Leverkusen to close in on them.


Yes, and is it possible to assume that Leverkusen were nothing more than lucky last season? I think it is possible to assume that, but at the beginning especially before this season started I really never expected Leverkusen to experience this kind of decline in performance, it means that it seems that there is something wrong with Xabi Alonso, maybe he is wrong in implementing tactics or maybe he did not make any changes to his team so that other teams know his weaknesses which makes them draw more than win, even though as you said last season they were extraordinary which won the title without losing at all throughout the season.
Yes, Leverkusen now have a 7 point gap with Bayern Munich, in the next match Bayern Munich will play against Heidenheim at home and I am sure this is an easy match for them to secure full points and continue to distance themselves from Leverkusen.


I started doubting Leverkusen since the day they bottle the Europa league final to Atlanta loosing 3-0 in a cup final after being unbeaten In the league in the Europa league tournament
This season BundesLiga is probably between Bayern Munich, Leipzig, Dortmund and probably still Leverkusen
Yea, you are right. Bayern is still the most favorite amongst others, because they are still keeping to their consistency till date, and they're ahead of Leverkusen with 7 points. You shouldn't expect Leverkusen to repeat what they did last this again because Bayern was weak last season due to poor coaching system, but currently, they have hired a good coach who has kept their performance stable. This is why Leverkusen and the others will not be able to contender with Bayern this season.


You may be right but the fact that Bayern Munich is leading the table with a good points difference doesn't mean or is not certain that they are going to win the league because there's so many matches to play to the end of the season though there performance is not that bad but if I am to rate from 1-10 I will rate them 7 which means that they still have to put more effort in order for them to win the league and it's going to be a  great day and of course a great season for Harry Kane, you can imagine how it sounds to hear that an amazing striker like Harry Kane doesn't have any trophy in his career mean while he is goal machine.

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