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September 10, 2024, 07:25:56 PM
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Yes but unfortunately after successfully defeating Frankfurt they actually experienced a draw when competing with Wender which I thought was not a difficult opponent for Dortmund, or I mean I thought that previously Dortmund would be able to defeat Wender which is a lower class team but it turned out the match ended with a share of points.
So I can't conclude that they performed well at the beginning of the season with one win and one draw against a weaker team.
Next Dortmund will compete against Heidenheim which I would also say was a middle team in the last two seasons since they came but now they are at the top of the table by starting the season without losing, I can't be sure who will win but what is certain is that I think Dortmund has a greater chance if they are able to play optimally.
On the other hand, of course this season will definitely be tighter, and the point is I hope that the new coach can really realize the dreams of the club and the fans who always fail to win trophies at the end of the season.
Football matches are indeed unpredictable, even the underdogs can be very surprising and we are talking about a competitive league. On the other hand, Dortmund is now in the hands of a new coach, Nuri Sahin needs time to perfect the depth of the squad he will build. The draw against Bremen yesterday was clear evidence that Dortmund is not yet stable, but this league is still young, Dortmund has only played 2 matches, there are still many opportunities to perform well and improve their playing patterns. The match against Heidenheim later can be said to be a fairly tough test because as we know Heidenheim performed well at the beginning of the season, and the last head to head of both teams was balanced, securing 3 points at Signal Iduna Park later Dortmund must work harder. Talking about the trophy Dortmund is not a strong candidate this season, there are still Leverkusen and Munich who are more favored.

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September 10, 2024, 07:35:21 PM
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You're right. Dortmund placed below Leipzig. But we're still at the early season, and so many things can happen till the middle of season.



The odds above say Bayern Munich is the favorite to win. Leverkusen is in second place. But, I'm a bit disappointed. The gap between Leverkusen and Leipzig is big. Also, Dortmund is in 4th place, behind Leipzig.

It seems to me Dortmund is only competing for the UCL. I'm getting skeptical to think they can become a title contender this season.

Bayern munich and Bayern Leverkusen remain the stongest title contender.

It would be interesting to see the dynamics of the change in the odds last season, when Bayer's odds literally rose out of nowhere to the level of favorites (if I remember correctly, the change of favorites took place after Bayer won 3-0 against Bayern). But this happens once every 20-30 years and in reality only two clubs fight for the title, the rest of the clubs, although they are quoted differently 11.0 or 66.0, in fact have no real chance at all.

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September 10, 2024, 07:48:10 PM
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TSG 1899 Hoffenheim many players are injured and thet will face big lose after losing good defender and midfielder. I am very sad after the injury of Kabak because he could make interesting and without him match will be like a body without soul.

All of Europe's top leagues appear to be on holiday for the 2026 World Cup qualifying matches. The new league will start this weekend, of course this condition will affect the players and clubs who play with the country. Maybe some players will get tired or maybe get injured. Especially good players in big clubs.
Furthermore, regarding Hoffenheim, it is not a weak team either. They have the same 3 points with 1 loss. Heffenheim is a little lucky, they will perform at home. This is a momentum to add to Leverkusen's bad record of losing again after last season was very strong.
If they can use the bad weather in Leverkusen, they can win at home. Of course, Bayer Leverkusen is a very strong team. Even if Hoffenheim draws against them, in my opinion, it will be a success. Because Bayer Leverkusen is currently in its prime. They have been playing very well since last year. The players are very used to each other. Even in the match they lost last week, they were very dominant. After conceding two goals, they were unlucky and could not turn the match around and conceded a third goal. I don't think they will do the same against Hoffenheim. Hoffenheim's only chance will be the support of the fans.

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September 10, 2024, 08:04:51 PM
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This season Borussia Dortmund has not performed badly. They have won one game and drew one in two games. They are even better than Bayer Leverkusen which has just three points in two games. They have a new coach, Nuri Sahin, who is not new to the Bundesliga, having worked as an assistant coach in Dortmund before he was appointed head coach. Four points from two games is not that bad, and hopefully, they will improve after the international break.
After a winning start and a draw in the Bundesliga, Dortmund’s performance seems fair from my perspective. In their opener game against Frankfurt, luck was on their side towards the end. They had a tough start, but they need to push through these challenges and start securing more victories after international break. As the season goes on, the competition will get tougher, so it's crucial they work through these early struggles under their new coach, Nuri Sahin.

But, by the way, how can a team like Heidenheim be the top team in the current Bundesliga standings? Indeed, the Bundesliga has just played two matches but Heidenheim managed to make two wins with clean sheets and also won with big score in the previous match with a score of 0-2 and 4-0. With results like that, Heidenheim has a better number of goals compared to Bayern Munich, even though their points are the same but Heidenheim managed to be at the top.

But indeed, even so, of course I am also sure that Heidenheim will quickly fall because after all, in the next match Heidenheim will play away against Dortmund. With a match like this, of course it is a real challenge for Heidenheim whether they will still be able to get points or not. Because after all, Dortmund also clearly has better quality and chances compared to Heidenheim and moreover, Dortmund who only has four points this moment and of course Dortmund will maximize this home match to beat Heidenheim.

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September 10, 2024, 08:06:57 PM
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Borrusia Dortmund is mainly for winners, although the team's management have made major mistakes that have made them experienced setbacks in league games, talking about selling players, not just any players but the rare gems that have top talents to drive the team to specific heightened station. This is still early stage to start predicting the club's to win the Bundesliga title because every elite clubs are having some up and down moments. This is Germany and the main clubs are preparing to having consistent performance this season.
It's been a good start, but it's only been two games in the Bundesliga, yes although it could be argued that it's better than Bayer Leverkusen as they've only lost once so far against Leipzig, and I didn't expect Bayer Leverkusen to be beaten either but it was a close game for both with a 3-2 scoreline.
Dortmund won't have any major changes because they are still with the previous coach's colleagues, unless Nuri Sahim can be much more creative than Edin Terzic.

I remember that Dortmund always sold potential players and that's why they couldn't reach the top. lol
To be honest, it is too early to say that Borussia Dortmund is much better than Bayer Leverkusen, only one defeat with Leipzig and Dortmund got a draw with the Bremen team I see it as less than ideal, yes if you assume from looking at the numbers on the standings you can conclude Dortmund is much better than Bayer Leverkusen.
Some people’s saying a word out of a sentence if not how will them make an early prediction against the Leverkusen just because they see that Dortmund have make small movement which their able to manage the 4the position in the table, I think this is just the beginning of the season for those that are making early statements should hold on first; and allow the season to go far so that we knows who are more better pass. But stated that Dortmund are more better than Bayern leverkusen how never believe with, because everyone knows how their performances be even last with they way they remain unbeaten in that last season and even this season they will still be strong sure.

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September 10, 2024, 08:26:17 PM
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This season Borussia Dortmund has not performed badly. They have won one game and drew one in two games. They are even better than Bayer Leverkusen which has just three points in two games. They have a new coach, Nuri Sahin, who is not new to the Bundesliga, having worked as an assistant coach in Dortmund before he was appointed head coach. Four points from two games is not that bad, and hopefully, they will improve after the international break.
Borrusia Dortmund is mainly for winners, although the team's management have made major mistakes that have made them experienced setbacks in league games, talking about selling players, not just any players but the rare gems that have top talents to drive the team to specific heightened station. This is still early stage to start predicting the club's to win the Bundesliga title because every elite clubs are having some up and down moments. This is Germany and the main clubs are preparing to having consistent performance this season.
Borussia Dortmund is one of the strongest teams in Germany. They are one of the strong candidates for the championship again this year. I think they are using the players in the best way to be a better team. It is too early to comment on this season because we are still at the beginning of the league but I am sure they will be one of the candidates for the championship again.

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September 10, 2024, 08:31:41 PM
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This season Borussia Dortmund has not performed badly. They have won one game and drew one in two games. They are even better than Bayer Leverkusen which has just three points in two games. They have a new coach, Nuri Sahin, who is not new to the Bundesliga, having worked as an assistant coach in Dortmund before he was appointed head coach. Four points from two games is not that bad, and hopefully, they will improve after the international break.
After a winning start and a draw in the Bundesliga, Dortmund’s performance seems fair from my perspective. In their opener game against Frankfurt, luck was on their side towards the end. They had a tough start, but they need to push through these challenges and start securing more victories after international break. As the season goes on, the competition will get tougher, so it's crucial they work through these early struggles under their new coach, Nuri Sahin.

Nuri Sahin as the new coach of Borussia Dortmund has been doing a pretty good job even when the performance can’t be said to be satisfactory just yet. With an averagely good start in the season, they can still try their best in order to be on a consistent level before the league gets more intense and difficult to win. I see them as one of the teams that will make it to the top spot level of the Bundesliga and will represent well in the champions league after their good outing last season. The earlier they start to showcase what they get the better for them.

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September 10, 2024, 08:34:57 PM
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This season Borussia Dortmund has not performed badly. They have won one game and drew one in two games. They are even better than Bayer Leverkusen which has just three points in two games. They have a new coach, Nuri Sahin, who is not new to the Bundesliga, having worked as an assistant coach in Dortmund before he was appointed head coach. Four points from two games is not that bad, and hopefully, they will improve after the international break.
After a winning start and a draw in the Bundesliga, Dortmund’s performance seems fair from my perspective. In their opener game against Frankfurt, luck was on their side towards the end. They had a tough start, but they need to push through these challenges and start securing more victories after international break. As the season goes on, the competition will get tougher, so it's crucial they work through these early struggles under their new coach, Nuri Sahin.

Nuri Sahin as the new coach of Borussia Dortmund has been doing a pretty good job even when the performance can’t be said to be satisfactory just yet. With an averagely good start in the season, they can still try their best in order to be on a consistent level before the league gets more intense and difficult to win. I see them as one of the teams that will make it to the top spot level of the Bundesliga and will represent well in the champions league after their good outing last season. The earlier they start to showcase what they get the better for them.
I know Nuri Şahin well from Turkey. He took the team to a very good level when he was managing Antalyaspor. He has a very good technical capacity. He also has past ties with Borussia Dortmund. I believe he can be successful this year.

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I don't feel like you. Dominating the Bundesliga is more difficult for Bayern Munich this season. Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Dortmund are in good form. On the other hand, Vincent Kompany is yet to stabilize his squad. Although Bayern Munich won the match against Wolfsburg, Munich conceded two goals in this match. I look forward to seeing Munich's performance against the big teams.
Totally agree with what you said and I will also see how Bayern Munich plays when hosting Freiburg at the Allianz Arena because the Freiburg team has also been able to win in their first match this season and is also ranked first in the Bundesliga. So I think the next match for Bayern Munich will definitely be quite fierce because Freiburg is also not a weak team in the Bundesliga although I don't think Freiburg can win easily at the Allianz Arena later. Because Bayern Munich will definitely try hard to win at their home ground.

I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.
 

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September 10, 2024, 11:44:58 PM
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But, by the way, how can a team like Heidenheim be the top team in the current Bundesliga standings? Indeed, the Bundesliga has just played two matches but Heidenheim managed to make two wins with clean sheets and also won with big score in the previous match with a score of 0-2 and 4-0. With results like that, Heidenheim has a better number of goals compared to Bayern Munich, even though their points are the same but Heidenheim managed to be at the top.

But indeed, even so, of course I am also sure that Heidenheim will quickly fall because after all, in the next match Heidenheim will play away against Dortmund. With a match like this, of course it is a real challenge for Heidenheim whether they will still be able to get points or not.
Heidenheim was in the top 8, I'm not really surprised if they could win in 2 early matches. Moreover, they just played against weak teams (FC St. Pauli and Augsburg). I'm sure every big team in Bundesliga will easily get points as well if they play against these teams. So, I think Heidenheim is just lucky in this early season. Heidenheim still doesn't face real challenges yet.

Yep. They will play against Dortmund away. Considering the quality of the players and where the match to be held, I'm very sure Dortmund will win the match. Dortmund is always the candidate of the champion in each season. They must try all out winning the match, especially for a home match. 3 points got from the match against Heidenheim will keep their confident for the title race. So, no doubt Dortmund will play optimally winning the match.


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I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.
So far Kompany has been successful in handling Bayern Munich and he has been able to deliver wins in every game, but this is not really a big test because we haven't seen them face a strong team. I want to see Bayern Munich face a much more balanced team so that we can get an idea of his quality as a coach. Handling a big team like Bayern Munich is not easy because he is required to achieve good results and if he fails, the consequence is that he will be fired early.

Bayern Munich will face Dinamo Zagreb in the Champions League after playing the third game in the Bundesliga and this will be the start for Kompany so he has to deliver a win. The real test will be felt when he faces a much more balanced team because it takes strategy to be able to deliver a win.

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September 11, 2024, 04:09:48 AM
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I don't feel like you. Dominating the Bundesliga is more difficult for Bayern Munich this season. Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Dortmund are in good form. On the other hand, Vincent Kompany is yet to stabilize his squad. Although Bayern Munich won the match against Wolfsburg, Munich conceded two goals in this match. I look forward to seeing Munich's performance against the big teams.
Totally agree with what you said and I will also see how Bayern Munich plays when hosting Freiburg at the Allianz Arena because the Freiburg team has also been able to win in their first match this season and is also ranked first in the Bundesliga. So I think the next match for Bayern Munich will definitely be quite fierce because Freiburg is also not a weak team in the Bundesliga although I don't think Freiburg can win easily at the Allianz Arena later. Because Bayern Munich will definitely try hard to win at their home ground.
I didn't expect that when Vincent Kompeny did a good job at the beginning of his debut, people still thought that Bayern Munich had not performed well and questioned Bayern conceding 2 goals from their 2 matches, even though I think this is not a problem because the most important thing is that Bayern Munich won at the end and got full points. In the next match I think Bayern Munich will win the match again because Bayern Munich has a bigger advantage, I'm sure Freiburg will not be able to make it difficult for Bayern Munich, in their last match they were defeated by Stuttgart with a landslide score at their home ground.

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I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.
Well, this is what is worrying because Kompany has no experience leading a team in a big competition like the Champions League. Starting the season well will increase the motivation of the players to maintain their performance and forget about last season's failure. Now Bayern Munich has started a new chapter with Kompany and the results achieved in the last match were quite satisfactory. Kompany must continue to work hard to give his best for Bayern Munich, the positive results that have just been achieved are just the beginning, he needs to fix every deficiency in his team to achieve maximum results, especially since there are still many matches waiting for them in the future.

 
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Bayern Munich will face Dinamo Zagreb in the Champions League after playing the third game in the Bundesliga and this will be the start for Kompany so he has to deliver a win. The real test will be felt when he faces a much more balanced team because it takes strategy to be able to deliver a win.

The picture below the odds movement for Munich vs Zagreb. It's looking stable.



The huge gap in odds from either of club tells Bayern Munich most likely to win the game easily. I think it makes sense. They're unbeaten in their last five home games. They're facing a weak team, Zagreb.

And i see Zagreb has no chance to win against Bayern Munich. Their record is 3 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw. It's not bad. But, those stats don't convince me they can beat Bayern away.

But i think the odds's not worthy enough (too small). And over 2.5 seems pretty good enough to bet in this game.  


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September 11, 2024, 05:18:25 AM
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The huge gap in odds from either of club tells Bayern Munich most likely to win the game easily. I think it makes sense. They're unbeaten in their last five home games. They're facing a weak team, Zagreb.

And i see Zagreb has no chance to win against Bayern Munich. Their record is 3 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw. It's not bad. But, those stats don't convince me they can beat Bayern away.

But i think the odds's not worthy enough (too small). And over 2.5 seems pretty good enough to bet in this game.  
To predict the result of Munich match in the UCL is not too difficult because the guarantee of victory looks more certain. On the one hand, Zagreb is not an equal opponent for Munich and will not put any pressure on Kompany.
But the problem is that Bayern Munich before appearing in the UCL must face Holstein Kiel who once defeated Munich in the DFB competition. Well, this is the pressure for Kompany who must manage the players properly so as not to experience defeat in 2 competitions at once. And if in the domestic match Munich will appear with second string players, Holstein Kiel will most likely still be able to hold a draw against Munich.

Betting on over 2.5 in the UCL match might be the right choice, but to bet on the match against Holstein Kiel, we must be careful and prefer to see the formation used by Kompany in the match this weekend.

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September 11, 2024, 09:56:53 AM
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I was not expecting to see this but it seems the situation is getting better for Bayern Munich since they started working with Kompney and they are were performing well enough so far during the game we saw from this team. Bayern Munich's performance against Freiburg was very well and this made me hope to see even better results from this team in the next games however playing against a team like Freiburg won't be the same as playing against stronger teams in the Champions League at all.
Well, this is what is worrying because Kompany has no experience leading a team in a big competition like the Champions League. Starting the season well will increase the motivation of the players to maintain their performance and forget about last season's failure. Now Bayern Munich has started a new chapter with Kompany and the results achieved in the last match were quite satisfactory. Kompany must continue to work hard to give his best for Bayern Munich, the positive results that have just been achieved are just the beginning, he needs to fix every deficiency in his team to achieve maximum results, especially since there are still many matches waiting for them in the future.
Bayern Munich has currently managed to achieve two consecutive wins over their opponents, so this is actually starting to give fans confidence in Kompany current performance in coaching, but isn't winning in two matches still too early for us to judge if Kompany has been successful in coaching Bayern?
So far, apart from Dortmund, Leipzig and Leverkusen, I don't think there is any other strong team that might be an obstacle for Munich at the moment, Freiburg in the last few seasons has not been in good condition so beating Freiburg cannot be a reference if Bayern Munich is very strong tt the moment.

The victory over Freiburg can at least raise the motivation of the Bayern Munich players, but the Champions League still has its own challenges which often destroy the careers of experienced coaches because of their failures, so for now Bayern Munich fans should not have too much hope to see their team be able to winning the Champions League, indeed Munich has a capable squad at the moment, but we know for to be winning the Champions League of course a qualified squad is not enough if it is not supported by consistency, mentality, experience and good game strategy.

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September 11, 2024, 11:23:24 AM
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Bayern Munich has currently managed to achieve two consecutive wins over their opponents, so this is actually starting to give fans confidence in Kompany current performance in coaching, but isn't winning in two matches still too early for us to judge if Kompany has been successful in coaching Bayern?
So far, apart from Dortmund, Leipzig and Leverkusen, I don't think there is any other strong team that might be an obstacle for Munich at the moment, Freiburg in the last few seasons has not been in good condition so beating Freiburg cannot be a reference if Bayern Munich is very strong tt the moment.

The victory over Freiburg can at least raise the motivation of the Bayern Munich players, but the Champions League still has its own challenges which often destroy the careers of experienced coaches because of their failures, so for now Bayern Munich fans should not have too much hope to see their team be able to winning the Champions League, indeed Munich has a capable squad at the moment, but we know for to be winning the Champions League of course a qualified squad is not enough if it is not supported by consistency, mentality, experience and good game strategy.
It is still too early to measure strength and say that Bayern is stronger this season if only seen from two matches, but the impact of the two wins at the beginning of the season that they have achieved is very large, especially for their new coach Kompany who was initially doubted, this could be a point of confidence for Kompany and all the players in the Bayern squad to be able to improve their performance again.

In the Champions League, the Bayern Munich team is always taken into account, but this season we see it realistically that Bayern Munich is a team that is improving to be able to rise again with its new coach who has no experience and even Bayern Munich's main target is to win the Bundesliga title again this season, but for a team as big as Bayern Munich, they also shifted their focus to the CL competition, so I think it's not a big surprise if they can compete fiercely in the CL this season.

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September 11, 2024, 11:30:10 AM
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Some people’s saying a word out of a sentence if not how will them make an early prediction against the Leverkusen just because they see that Dortmund have make small movement which their able to manage the 4the position in the table, I think this is just the beginning of the season for those that are making early statements should hold on first; and allow the season to go far so that we knows who are more better pass. But stated that Dortmund are more better than Bayern leverkusen how never believe with, because everyone knows how their performances be even last with they way they remain unbeaten in that last season and even this season they will still be strong sure.

Dortmund is one team I can never take seriously again no matter what they do. Even if they top the league with 10 points I do not care. Their inconsistency is on a different level and I can't trust them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt the season before last season when all they needed to win the league was to win Mainz on the final day of the season and they couldn't. They couldn't even get a draw. Mind you this was a team that had about 5 points more than Bayern Munich.

Saying Dortmund if better than Leverkusen after just 2 matches is funny. One would think Dortmund won both their matches but they actually drew one and won one, While Leverkusen won one and lost one. There is no much difference at this point because it's just a 2 points difference and knowing Dortmund, they'll definitely drop more points.


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September 11, 2024, 02:01:10 PM
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This season Dortmund is still a team that every opponent must be wary of even though their orientation in business such as selling good players has not stopped at this time. However, considering that Dortmund can always produce other new players to be better, it can at least still give them good hope this season so it would be very reasonable if we put Dortmund in the league title race this season even though teams like Leverkusen must also be an important consideration for Bayern Munich and Dortmund this season.
I don't think Dortmund will be a fierce competitor in the Bundesliga title race this season, they have undergone a lot of changes and on the other hand Bundesliga teams like Leverkusen, Leipzig and also Bayern have improved much stronger, it is the opposite of Dortmund so I doubt a little that Dortmund will compete fiercely in the title race especially this season they have a new coach of course every new coach needs to adapt in building a team as well as for Dortmund's new coach this season.
All in all, it's going to be a tough competition in the Bundesliga this season. In other seasons we see two teams leading the fight for the title but this season bayan munich is doing well and they will be consistent whereas dotmund has started the season fresh and the other two teams you have mentioned the season will be full of competition. When local league tournaments are full of competition, it will be easier for other teams from that league to participate in major European tournaments to do well in major tournaments. Banyan Munich lost the title to Leverkusen last season and they will definitely want to win the title this season while Dortmund have not been doing well in the last few seasons and they are also likely to come back this season.

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September 11, 2024, 02:13:40 PM
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Some people’s saying a word out of a sentence if not how will them make an early prediction against the Leverkusen just because they see that Dortmund have make small movement which their able to manage the 4the position in the table, I think this is just the beginning of the season for those that are making early statements should hold on first; and allow the season to go far so that we knows who are more better pass. But stated that Dortmund are more better than Bayern leverkusen how never believe with, because everyone knows how their performances be even last with they way they remain unbeaten in that last season and even this season they will still be strong sure.

Dortmund is one team I can never take seriously again no matter what they do. Even if they top the league with 10 points I do not care. Their inconsistency is on a different level and I can't trust them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt the season before last season when all they needed to win the league was to win Mainz on the final day of the season and they couldn't. They couldn't even get a draw. Mind you this was a team that had about 5 points more than Bayern Munich.

Before Xabi Alonso took over Leverkusen and surprised everyone last season, Dortmund was a strong candidate for the title and could match Munich's strength, but unfortunately Dortmund's management did not focus too much on the trophy, they only sought profit from the sale of their players. and it was proven that they were only a shadow of Munich for the past few seasons without being able to lift the trophy. This season the results will be the same, Dortmund is only a complement above Dortmund now there are Leverkusen and Munich who have been proven. This season's era belongs to Leverkusen and Munich.

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