Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[bering]

In Germany, we saw matches with plenty of goals. Wolfsburg led 3-2 in the first half with a goal in the last minutes, but last year's champion Leverkusen managed to turn the game around at home and won 4-3.

I thought this is could be easy match for Leverkusen but clearly i was wrong about that and surprisingly Wolfsburg can able to performing well they even can several times to leading the game but Leverkusen has proven that they have champion mentality and can scored at stoppage time but credit to Victor Boniface that he can used free kick from Leverkusen to scored and i think today he is the hero of Leverkusen because with his goal Leverkusen can able to collect 3 points from this match

The surprise result of the day was Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1 at home. I don't think anyone expected such a difference, and after Stuttgart's loss to Real earlier in the week, we might have expected them to be in low spirits.

Lost 5-1 from Stuttgart indeed really not acceptable especially before this match Dortmund status is still unbeatable in all competition but Dortmund was unable to in form in this match and their defensive lines is very not solid and this makes Stuttgart players were easily to broke Dortmund defense even when the match entering 4 minutes in the first half Stuttgart have already to leading the game and this is Dortmund first loses for this season with big scores

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Recently we have seen Bayern Munich's success in securing full points in their latest match against Wender with a fairly satisfying score even though they played away, it was an easy match for them that made them manage to maintain their position at the top of the standings without losing since the season started, and I hope Kompany can maintain that consistency. What's interesting is that next week we will watch the match between Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen which is a match that we have been waiting for this season because of course the competition on the field will be very fierce and certainly will be more tense.

As we know about how extraordinary Xabi Alonso's squad was last season, but now they are quite far behind in terms of points, but that doesn't mean Leverkusen will make the match easy for Bayern Munich, they are still a strong team in the competition, meaning I can't be sure who will get full points in this match, and the point is we will find out who is stronger. But overall the advantage is in Bayern Munich's camp because they will play at home in this match.

This is a highly anticipated match, the meeting of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayer Munich is like a big match in the Bundes league, we will see if Bayer Leverkusen is the same as last season who was able to beat Bayer Munich and become the winner of this league, seeing from what has been shown by Bayer Munich I think they are much stronger and Vincent Komapny did work very well for Bayer Munchin at the beginning of this season, some of their matches that have been held have amazed us by their success in defeating their opponents.

Of course everyone may also doubt who will get the victory in this match because these two teams are very strong, Xabi Alonso's care can also be said to be successful at the beginning of this season, for Xabi the toughest task is to keep the ball from touching Harry Kane's feet because he is a tough striker and is the best finisher, and it is very dangerous if he keeps getting chances, and the interesting thing in my mind right now is how the two coaches between Xabi Alonso and Vincent Kompany to show who is the strongest and smartest between them.

The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

[kawetsriyanto]

Alphonso Davies the player of Bayern Munich was recently linked to Real Madrid and they contacted this player to hire him even during the last summer which made the player to think more about his next destination. However, Alphonso Davies is an effective player for Bayern Munich and they don't want to lose this player easily to Real Madrid. Since Alphonso Davies didn't accept extending his contract with Bayern Munich they were disappointed about this player and they stopped to make his stay in the team.

It was a rumor since the previous transfer windows, it is not a recent rumor. As far as I know Real Madrid has reached a personal agreement with Alphonso Davies. He possibly moves to Real Madrid when his contract is over with Bayern Munich. There is no way that Bayern Munich to keep Alphonso Davies if he already decided to leave. I think Bayern Munich won't be so confused because they still have Raphaël Guerreiro as a left-back.

It seems that we will soon see Alphonso Davies leave Bayern Munich for Real Madrid.

NO, it is impossible to leave soon. Alphonso Davies needs to wait until June 30, 2025 if he wants to leave Bayern Munich. Before his contract expires, he has the responsibility to stay with Bayern Munich.

Losing by 5-1 against Stuttgart? I don't think anyone expected such result from Dortmund. I was expecting them to drop points but not like this... How can they manage to be this horrible?  

It isn't a good start for the new manager Nuri Şahin. He has a lot of work to do. Young managers are always a dark horse. We never know which one of them will turn out to be a good one. For now I can only say Nuri Şahin needs to work much harder to become a better manager. You have a quite good squad in your hands. You should learn how to use it effectively. Otherwise he might not last more than one season.

Indeed. It is a very surprising result, I personally can't believe it. I think Dortmund will win the match with full points because Dortmund looks to have a better squad. But Dortmund totally couldn't do much in the match, Stuttgart really dominated the match and won it with 5 goals. I don't want to blame the players because they look good with their quality. So, I also think it is about the tactics/strategy applied by the coach. Nuri Şahin is a new and young coach, he may need a longer time to obtain the ability of an ideal coach. Since he still has a lack of experience, he may get difficulty when Dortmund plays against a strong team in Bundesliga. Playing against Stuttgart was a real test of Nuri Sahin's ability as a coach. With this defeat, lets' see what Nuri Sahin will plan for Dortmund.

[Weawant]

The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

This is going to be an opportunity for kompany to show how well his tactical skills can be trusted because against Bayern, Leverkusen who happens to be their biggest rivals in the bundesliga, he is going to need an extra ordinary style of play to get victory over them especially as they are playing from home, this seems Bayern Munich haven't lost any game at home and it appears like their strong hood so it will take a whole lot for Leverkusen as a visiting team to win them not with all the records they have gotten in recent times, and I believe if Munich gets a victory at the end of the day, the trust in kompanye will be stronger than it has every been before now, from the management and the fans, probably the players too.

[Docnaster]

The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

The Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen game that'll be played on Saturday will be a very interesting game to watch for fans if both clubs as well as neutrals. Last season, we saw how Bayer Leverkusen dominated the league and went on to win the league without conceding a defeat in the entire season - a record that no German club have ever matched while this season, Bayern Munich have been the best team in the league and have won all league games they've played so far. So the game will be a big test for both teams in their quest to know who's better than each other at the moment

[TelolettOm]

The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

You are right. It will be a test of how strong Bayern Munich squad and how good Kompany's tactics. If Bayern Munich can win the match, I'm sure a lot of people will change their perspective about Kompany and the chance of Bayern Munich to win the Bundesliga trophy this season. Anyway, I think the chance of Bayern Munich to win is quite high because they have some advantages for the next match. The match will be held in Bayern Munich home and the current condition of Bayern Munich players look very good. The stats of their performance is also quite impressive, they won all the last 5 matches.


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However, I agree that Bayern Munich can't underestimate Leverkusen. They have proven that they are a strong team in the last season. Leverkusen also have a smart coach and quality players. Kompany needs to prepare their best to deal with Xabi Alonso team.


My prediction: Bayern Munich 3-2 Leverkusen

[ajiz138]

In Germany, we saw matches with plenty of goals. Wolfsburg led 3-2 in the first half with a goal in the last minutes, but last year's champion Leverkusen managed to turn the game around at home and won 4-3.
The surprise result of the day was Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1 at home. I don't think anyone expected such a difference, and after Stuttgart's loss to Real earlier in the week, we might have expected them to be in low spirits.

Only St. Pauli vs Leipzig ended goalless, the other matches ended with many goals, this is a Bundesliga full of goal parties but if Bayern and Leverkusen are not strange to be above 3 goals wins.

Stuttgart was a surprise as they managed to humiliate Dortmund with a crushing score, we know Dortmund is a tough opponent but in last night's match they had to be embarrassed by the losing score.

Next week may be an interesting match again, because Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen meet early, we know last season Leverkusen beat him and the current season still does not know which one will win.

[Farma]

The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

The Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen game that'll be played on Saturday will be a very interesting game to watch for fans if both clubs as well as neutrals. Last season, we saw how Bayer Leverkusen dominated the league and went on to win the league without conceding a defeat in the entire season - a record that no German club have ever matched while this season, Bayern Munich have been the best team in the league and have won all league games they've played so far. So the game will be a big test for both teams in their quest to know who's better than each other at the moment

Currently Munich with Kompany is in good form, and currently Munich is unbeaten in the Bundesliga and has produced 4 wins and is currently in first place and followed by Leverkusen with 9 points below it, of course this is a good match next week but it seems I see Munich's chances of winning this match are quite big in the market they are quite consistent with the game and the number of goals they scored in the previous match indicates that Munich's sharpness is very worthy of being watched by Leverkusen, Kompany is currently very confident I think they will succeed next week by moving away from second place especially the opportunity to win playing at home will certainly be an extraordinary thing that they can take advantage of well. Not to underestimate Leberkusen but it does seem that their back line is not good after last night's match even though they won but instead conceded 3 goals and it seems that this must be fixed immediately by Xabi for the next big match because we know Munich's sharpness is not only from Kane's side but from their side is also quite impressive, in this match I think with confidence I will bet on Munich to win this match.

[tusandii]

Two matches that thwarted my bets were the Dortmund vs Stuttgart and Leipzig vs St. Pauli matches, initially I was hesitant to bet on Dortmund because they were away to Stuttgart's home base but because I saw Stuttgart's recent inconsistent performance I thought Dortmund would beat them or at least get 1 point in this match but it turned out that Stuttgart performed extraordinarily by scoring more than 3 goals against Dortmund, which was beyond my prediction even though I knew Dortmund's defense was quite strong, I think they need to improve their careless defense.

And for Leipzig I thought they would be able to beat the promoted club but it turned out that Leipzig couldn't do anything and even failed to score a goal so there was nothing interesting in this match because both teams only got a goalless draw.

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The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

The Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen game is very important and could decide how the season goes. Bayern has advantage playing at home and scoring many goals, but Leverkusen is unpredictable and consistent. They tied last time but Bayern might win this time. However Leverkusen can still surprise Bayern. This match is a big test of strategy between two top teams and the result will affect the season rankings.

[hyudien]

Stuttgart was a surprise as they managed to humiliate Dortmund with a crushing score, we know Dortmund is a tough opponent but in last night's match they had to be embarrassed by the losing score.

Next week may be an interesting match again, because Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen meet early, we know last season Leverkusen beat him and the current season still does not know which one will win.

Yes, the match between Stuttgart vs Borussia Dortmund surprised me, because Borussia Dortmund had to lose by conceding 5 goals and could only reply with 1 goal, it was a result that never crossed my mind with such a big defeat. Borussia Dortmund has not been able to find its best form, but that is something natural because it is because they themselves do not seem to care about achievement. In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund will decline this season and they will no longer be competitors for Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich already has a new competitor, Leverkusen, who can even break their champion record for more than a decade. While Borussia Dortmund is always in the same situation every season and tends to decline.

[len01]

The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

Believe it or not I am sure Bayern Munich will win the match.
If you look at the current performance, it is very reasonable that Munich is favored by bookmakers who currently have odds @1.79.
From a bettor's point of view, they will definitely look at the number of goals conceded by both teams which are very different at this time Munich has only conceded 3 times while Leverkusen has conceded 3 times more than Munich. This means that Leverkusen has a defense that is not too strong at this time and Munich has a more solid defense.
However, in terms of the performance of the attacking players, both teams have the same strength and will definitely score the same score in the match.
Betting on Munich to win or BTTS is the best choice.

[Hirose UK]

Two matches that thwarted my bets were the Dortmund vs Stuttgart and Leipzig vs St. Pauli matches, initially I was hesitant to bet on Dortmund because they were away to Stuttgart's home base but because I saw Stuttgart's recent inconsistent performance I thought Dortmund would beat them or at least get 1 point in this match but it turned out that Stuttgart performed extraordinarily by scoring more than 3 goals against Dortmund, which was beyond my prediction even though I knew Dortmund's defense was quite strong, I think they need to improve their careless defense.

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Many of us have experienced the same fate where failure to make Dortmund favorite, this is as I said before that for the Leverkusen match it is still possible for them to win but for Dortmund itself I sure it is not easy to win because Stuttgart can show big surprise.
In the Dortmund vs Stuttgart match I tried to take risk by choosing double chance Dortmund or draw but in reality Stuttgart played more impressively and in the first half and the second half showed Stuttgart game was far superior.
Stuttgart defensive or attacking game was very focused and it was much better than what Dortmund did, I was little disappointed with Dortmund in this match.

[fruktik]

I personally am quite happy to see Kompany as a manager and also as an ordinary person outside, he looks so relaxed facing the media who doubt him and he is quite calm in doing or giving the right answer, no wonder he became big because he did it from small things and he is also quite complete when he became a football player, this indicates that Munich got the right person as a head manager because he gave it after several stunning matches with a flood of goals from the Munich team.

The strategy he did with Munich looked very fresh which made them win quite easily without fierce resistance and here it is seen that Kompany has a very good mentality in working and now I think he will give many trophies to Munich in the next few seasons.

That's what I'm writing about. You can't judge a team when it's played a few matches and won them all. No, that's far from correct. You've written correctly that there should be matches with big teams. Only then should we draw the appropriate conclusions.

I think no one argues that Bayern is a pretty strong team, but there's a limit to everything. We still have time to see how they can show themselves. It's not for nothing that the players eat their bread with black caviar.

[Bitcoin_people]

Stuttgart was a surprise as they managed to humiliate Dortmund with a crushing score, we know Dortmund is a tough opponent but in last night's match they had to be embarrassed by the losing score.

Next week may be an interesting match again, because Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen meet early, we know last season Leverkusen beat him and the current season still does not know which one will win.

Yes, the match between Stuttgart vs Borussia Dortmund surprised me, because Borussia Dortmund had to lose by conceding 5 goals and could only reply with 1 goal, it was a result that never crossed my mind with such a big defeat. Borussia Dortmund has not been able to find its best form, but that is something natural because it is because they themselves do not seem to care about achievement. In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund will decline this season and they will no longer be competitors for Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich already has a new competitor, Leverkusen, who can even break their champion record for more than a decade. While Borussia Dortmund is always in the same situation every season and tends to decline.

This match was really amazing as Stuttgart beat a strong team like Dortmund 5/1. Stuttgart really came as a surprise and they managed to score goals which was interesting, I think if they are excited like that this season they will definitely be in a good position towards the end of the season. Borussia Dortmund though did not play at their best in this match due to which they did not win the match only they countered with 1 goal which is a pity for them. If Borussia Dortmund could have won the match they would have hoped to move to the top of the points table but they lost points leaving the match and Stuttgart managed to occupy a good position with 3 points.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

The Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen game is very important and could decide how the season goes. Bayern has advantage playing at home and scoring many goals, but Leverkusen is unpredictable and consistent. They tied last time but Bayern might win this time. However Leverkusen can still surprise Bayern. This match is a big test of strategy between two top teams and the result will affect the season rankings.

Yes this match will be a discussion next week a fight between 2 favorite teams to win the title, almost all of us agree that Bayern Munich has a greater chance of winning the match, apart from playing at home they are also very consistent since the beginning of the season instead Leverkusen cannot be called consistent because of their defeat against Leipzig. However, we have no reason to underestimate Leverkusen and we still remember Leverkusen was the winner of the league last season with a perfect record.

By the way, I saw something surprising in yesterday's match when Stuttgart beat Dortmund with a score of 5-1 really this is beyond our expectations because we expect a fierce match, unfortunately Dortmund could not do anything until this embarrassing defeat happened. Usually Dortmund as one of the teams that has the best defense but a fast goal from Stuttgart in the 4th minute can disrupt Dortmund's defense also disrupts their concentration. Now Dortmund has to get out of the top 5 and they have to catch up in the near future.

[Barikui1]

The Bayern Munich versus Leverkusen match is a test of strength, the team that manages to secure full points has the potential to lead the standings until the end of the season. Based on the odds displayed, Kompany squad is favored because they act as hosts at the Allianz Arena, and appear consistent with extraordinary goal productivity. Last season in first half of the season, they drew, it is possible that next week both will share points again. Although we realize that victory tends to side with Bayern Munich this time. Actualy, Leverkusen cannot be underestimated, they are currently still able to make various surprises, with no significant changes made to the depth of the squad in the transfer window yesterday. Both teams are currently separated by 3 points, the gap will widen again if Xabi Alonso squad loses. Besides, I agree that the match will also be a battle of strategies for both managers, although on paper Xabi Alonso is clearly better.

Believe it or not I am sure Bayern Munich will win the match.
If you look at the current performance, it is very reasonable that Munich is favored by bookmakers who currently have odds @1.79.
From a bettor's point of view, they will definitely look at the number of goals conceded by both teams which are very different at this time Munich has only conceded 3 times while Leverkusen has conceded 3 times more than Munich. This means that Leverkusen has a defense that is not too strong at this time and Munich has a more solid defense.
However, in terms of the performance of the attacking players, both teams have the same strength and will definitely score the same score in the match.
Betting on Munich to win or BTTS is the best choice.

It's very much true, what you are saying here is really on point, in as much as Bayern Leverkusen was the most dominant team last season, let's not forget that as long as the German bundesliga is concerned, Bayern Munich remains the team to beat, and I believe that the present Bayern Munich is totally different from the Bayern Munich of last season.
So if you look at their numbers this season, from goal scored,  goal concede, chances created, chances concede, and even their transition when they lose the ball, like how they react, you would know that this present Bayern Munich is actually on 🔥 fire, so base on present form, I think Bayern Munich is more likely to get the winning in this upcoming encounter, but it's definitely going to be a fascinating encounter between this two teams.

[koang]

Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.

Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

BTW, Jonathan Tah and Edmond Tapsoba can't survive in aerial duels and Nathan Tella looks like he has to play against Bayern.

[Texac]

Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.

Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

With Leverkusen dominating the Bundesliga last season and winning the title, as well as the team going undefeated the whole season, our expectations from this team have been high this season. And this is why we say that Leverkusen's performance is not good. But considering the overall condition, I would say Leverkusen is performing quite well this season.

But if Leverkusen wants to win the title, they will undoubtedly have to play better. Because Leverkusen's main rivals for the title, Bayern Munich, are in great form this season. The team is winning every match by a big margin. So if Leverkusen's overall performance is not stronger, they will not win the title.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.

Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

BTW, Jonathan Tah and Edmond Tapsoba can't survive in aerial duels and Nathan Tella looks like he has to play against Bayern.

It's just been 4 games in the Bundesliga and 1 game in the UCL and people already think they can evaluate Leverkusen's performance.
People also said Dortmund started good and what do they say now??
Last season has been a novice in German football history Never seen before and I doubt it can be repeated. Leverkusen will find it's place and show what they are capable of. Yes they conceded 9 goals but they also score 13 in only 4 games. You have to score to win, if you make more goal then you concede there is no problem.
In 6 days we will see the big clash between them and Bayern and let's see what their doubters say then.