Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[tiCeR]

Die Werkself does not have a great squad even though they have been able to win the Bundesliga title in the last season. It is clear they are still trying the same things that they have tried in the last season. The thing is now the opponent knows what Xabi Alonso is going to try to do and they have to come pretty much predictable.

That's why Xabi Alonso's side has not been able to see the similar kind of success they had in the last season. I think if the same tactics have been used by the same coach with a great squad like Real Madrid or Manchester City, he would have still found success because the squad is much better and the depth is great. I think we'll also have to move on from this club and look at Real Madrid.

Nobody seems to remember that Bayer Leverkusen had several games last season that were unbelievably close. It could have gone wrong, but it didn't last season while it does this season. This makes the difference for the most part thus far.

But predictability is obviously another problem they are trying to cope with now. But you would think that it shouldn't take teams 34 games to find a strategy against Leverkusen last season. It's never easy to repeat record breaking achievements like what Leverkusen did last season. I never thought for a second that they could repeat it.

The other thing is that Bayern Munich is having better results. Leverkusen didn't lose a bunch of games, just one, but they lost the points in close games that they won in the previous season. But they still have a strong team in my opinion.

[KTChampions]

Honestly. Dortmund looked so dumb in this game and hards to find words for them. I thought that they would be moving up and down, but what i'm only seeing is that if they're always declining. They were just getting even more shittier every game.  

They recorded 2 shoots and one goal attempts from penalty. They must be feel shameful with it. I think they should give Nuri Sahin until the winter break to handle the team and if he can't fix things, then sack him. That's the only solution.

I agree, Roma has already managed to fire two coaches, but Dortmund can’t fire one  Dortmund actually have a good enough squad to at least comfortably be in the top three, but instead they are in 7th place, although this is not far if you count in points. But they don't have a game, if Mainz, which were close to relegation last season, dominates the game with Dortmund, then it's time to change something radically.

[Weawant]

The Mainz Bundesliga home game against Borussia Dortmund is now in the 60th minute with the home team leading with a 3:1 scoreline. I don't think Nuri Sahin's men stands any chance of coming back into the game because they're one man down already. Emre Can was shown the red card in the 27th minute of the game and that has limited Borussia Dortmund's performance in the game. In my prediction of the game, I did predict a Dortmund win or draw but it's now obvious that they'll be getting such result in this game.

I got disappointed at some point when I saw the statistical dominance especially in attempts by Mainz over Dortmund and I have noticed that Dortmund sem to have a challenge with consistency such that they suffer it almost every season. Dortmund lost the game, I understand the red card will actually affect the psychology of the players and they will actually have to struggle at some point to even make up for that vacuum which will cause them some exposure to their opponent which ofcourse did cost them the game but they had a chance to do better which if it's been utilized they could have remedy the situation by getting a draw by the end of the game not loosing out this badly.

[TelolettOm]

Leverkusen's performance is getting more and more boring, Xabi is indeed quite good in motivation, but as some members here say, his tactics are still limited and not that creative to adjust to the match against certain clubs.

Xabi should look at the previous match to evaluate everything and now the draw is the end of the match against Bochum, against a bottom team they can't play their best in my opinion their magical season is over now the decline for this team is happening, Leverkusen don't have good players in defense in my opinion and a good defense can be seen they have conceded 16 goals at the moment they are Leverkusen of course Xabi has to do something for their own good.

Of course, Xabi has also been demanded by the club for this, but if you look at the last few matches, he seems to be having a little trouble. Especially after the big defeat with Liverpool, their motivation seems to have dropped. Yes, now they are still in 4th position, but if there is no improvement, then their position is also very threatened, considering the number of points between 4th and 8th positions is very small and can still be taken over by each other.

[DaNNy001]

It's surprising if someone managed to bet Mainz 05 over Dortmund, even though Dortmund have a bad history, Mainz 05 have the same bad history too, even worst because Dortmund previously won 2 match.

If Dortmund didn't receive red card, I think they should able to win, Mainz 05 started to dominate after Dortmund play with 10 players.

Very unexpected results.

In this particular occasion, it was the red  card that determined the outcome of the game because Borussia Dortmund had just gotten an equaliser before they had their player sent off which was what affected the Dortmund side but it is still kudos to Mainz who took advantage of the situation by scoring more goals to ensure they got all 3 points which is a big win for them because we all thought Dortmund were going to beat Mainz at home due to current form.

Well it's good that you actually gave credit to Mainz because I have seen cases in football even the opponent has one or two red card and was still able to withstand if not even outplay the team which is complete but it rarely happens but we can't rule out that possiblity.

Dortmund this season is something else , if it's the goals scoring they are actually not doing bad but when it comes to conceiving goals thats where the problem is and it's also same thing with Bayer Leverkusen as they can hardly keep a clean sheet in a game they were to score a goal.

[Hirose UK]

Die Werkself does not have a great squad even though they have been able to win the Bundesliga title in the last season. It is clear they are still trying the same things that they have tried in the last season. The thing is now the opponent knows what Xabi Alonso is going to try to do and they have to come pretty much predictable.

What is clear this season is that Bayern Munich and Leipzig have performed better than last season, they have quite significant development and really show quality that cannot be underestimated so this is the reason why Leverkusen has difficulty to be able to top the standings, on the other hand Frankfurt also did the same thing where they have quite good improvements.
For Leverkusen itself, I see their game is much worse than last season, now there are many mistakes they have made in several match that have been played and this is what makes Xabi have to struggle and get additional work in directing each player, we just see how in the future whether Xabi can bring Leverkusen back to perform well at least to become runner-up or not.

[ThemePen]

Well it's good that you actually gave credit to Mainz because I have seen cases in football even the opponent has one or two red card and was still able to withstand if not even outplay the team which is complete but it rarely happens but we can't rule out that possiblity.

Dortmund this season is something else , if it's the goals scoring they are actually not doing bad but when it comes to conceiving goals thats where the problem is and it's also same thing with Bayer Leverkusen as they can hardly keep a clean sheet in a game they were to score a goal.

You are right Mainz deserves credit for their win. In football it is not always easy for team to win when they have fewer players on field because of red cards. But sometimes it happens. Mainz played well and won. Dortmund is having tough season. Their problem is not scoring goals they are doing okay with that. Problem is letting in too many goals. Bayer Leverkusen has same issue. They struggle to keep other team from scoring. When they score goals they often let in goals too. Both Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen need to work on their defense. They need to find ways to stop other team from scoring.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Although Dortmund still seems to have a chance to enter the top four, it doesn't seem easy at all because the next opponent is Freiburg who also still has the ambition to compete to enter the top four. The points gap is still very close like that, of course it will make the competition more difficult because each team will also do their best to be in a better  position in the standings. Interestingly, Leipzig and Eintracht Frankfurt seem to be able to create a safe points gap with the teams below them, because teams like Bayer Leverkusen who are currently in fourth place are experiencing inconsistency so that they get a fairly wide points gap with Eintracht Frankfurt and also Leipzig who are in second and third positions.

If it were Dortmund as the only team that has the strength to complete for the title against Bayern Munich I don't think the title will ever change hands any season. Dortmund has never for ones stay consistent for a whole season and if they have a chance of doing things right when it matters you see them dropping point like one of these clubs that are struggling go leave the relegation zone. For the top 4 I like the clubs I'm seeing and without Dortmund on the that picture shows how poor they have been, losing games without getting back at the top to show that they are among the big clubs fighting for the title.
I'm a bit disappointed at Leipzig because they did fight to win the league title from Bayern Munich back then and they too shouldn't be dropping point and struggling to stay consistent, on the other hand, Leverkusen I believe they will come back and with what they did last season is enough reason why we shouldn't count them out of the title race even if the point gap is a bit wide, they will come back and they're waiting for that opportunity to slide into the top 3 then losing and drawing games won't be part of them anymore, talking about Leverkusen.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Dortmund has never for ones stay consistent for a whole season and if they have a chance of doing things right when it matters you see them dropping point like one of these clubs that are struggling go leave the relegation zone.

Never huh. Hmm, let's see where I can prove you wrong. Well, maybe by stating that Dortmund has been German champion 8 times in their history. Sure the last time was 2012 but still, 8 times. So choosing these words can't be more wrong.

Obviously they are going through a rough stretch at the moment, no question about that. Many team have problems from time to time, except Bayern maybe. That's what makes the sport interesting. It would be boring when all the time the same teams are on top, wouldn't it. That's why last season was so amazing! Who would have thought Leverkusen would be unbeaten and especially Stuttgart would take 2nd place on top of Bayern?

[legendbtc]

Dortmund has never for ones stay consistent for a whole season and if they have a chance of doing things right when it matters you see them dropping point like one of these clubs that are struggling go leave the relegation zone.

Never huh. Hmm, let's see where I can prove you wrong. Well, maybe by stating that Dortmund has been German champion 8 times in their history. Sure the last time was 2012 but still, 8 times. So choosing these words can't be more wrong.

Obviously they are going through a rough stretch at the moment, no question about that. Many team have problems from time to time, except Bayern maybe. That's what makes the sport interesting. It would be boring when all the time the same teams are on top, wouldn't it. That's why last season was so amazing! Who would have thought Leverkusen would be unbeaten and especially Stuttgart would take 2nd place on top of Bayern?

Well, I remember Dortmund won it a total of 5 times: 1994/95, 1995/96, 2001/02, 2010/11 and 2011/12. Not 8 times as you said. But there have been two times when Dortmund successfully defended the Bundesliga title, those were the 1994/95 - 1995/96 and 2010/11 - 2011/12 seasons. In addition, Dortmund also finished second 7 times. So they are a stable team in the past. After that season, Bayern dominated the Bundesliga for 10 consecutive years before Leverkusen made history by winning the 2023/24 Bundesliga.

German football teams are not maintaining their form at the moment, so what is the reason? The problem is financial, they lose their stars after the season ends. Especially Dortmund. The same could happen to Leverkusen and Stuttgart. And so Bayern are still the most consistent team, and they can continue to dominate the league.

[shinratensei_]

Honestly. Dortmund looked so dumb in this game and hards to find words for them. I thought that they would be moving up and down, but what i'm only seeing is that if they're always declining. They were just getting even more shittier every game. 

They recorded 2 shoots and one goal attempts from penalty. They must be feel shameful with it. I think they should give Nuri Sahin until the winter break to handle the team and if he can't fix things, then sack him. That's the only solution.

I agree, Roma has already managed to fire two coaches, but Dortmund can’t fire one  Dortmund actually have a good enough squad to at least comfortably be in the top three, but instead they are in 7th place, although this is not far if you count in points. But they don't have a game, if Mainz, which were close to relegation last season, dominates the game with Dortmund, then it's time to change something radically.

Sadly, Dortmund has no guts to sack Sahin, they feel so reluctant to just send him a notice if they were sacking him. I don't know what's wrong with them. But, I assume they fear compensating Sahin if they sack him.

Also, i questioned Dortmund's reason for hiring Sahin as a coach. They should have hired a genuinely good and experienced manager.

Dortmund was choosing the same narrative as what Terzic had back at 22/23, but this is even worse than it.

[Lidger]

It feels like recently the big teams are in their trips, because seeing the rate at which big teams are loosing to smaller or even weak teams is actually causing me to wonder what is happening, this is supposed to be one easy game for Dortmund this week but sadly they couldn't even get a decent number of goal and further reduce the winning margin. I and probably other fans out there had expected more from them but now it turned out they couldn't even meet expectations, a draw would have even be considered but far from it at his point. Congratulations to Mainz for getting complete 3 points.

What you said is available in many international top leagues and even in UEFA competitions. Big teams are losing randomly like Manchester City and Real Madrid. Here in Bundesliga, Bayer Leverkusen and Dortmund aren't in their best shape and they are letting Bayern Munich to run alone in 1.Bundesliga.
Bayer Leverkusen shouldn't lose points against the last team in the rank and Mainz knocked Dortmund by 3 goals once they got a red card.

The big teams are not playing their best game and this is definitely a cause for concern. Manchester City Real Madrid are always favorite team for Champions League along with Bayern Munich we can keep the list of favorite team but if the current performance of these three teams can be discussed then there is not much room to praise about these three teams. Real Madrid are losing by a big margin to Barcelona and are losing to AC Milan in Champions League matches while Manchester City are losing to other teams in Champions League matches. Bayern Munich can be said to be performing well in the German league as they are unbeaten in their first ten matches although they have drawn two matches. But these teams must return to good performance otherwise such big tournaments will be incomplete.

[Weawant]

Die Werkself does not have a great squad even though they have been able to win the Bundesliga title in the last season. It is clear they are still trying the same things that they have tried in the last season. The thing is now the opponent knows what Xabi Alonso is going to try to do and they have to come pretty much predictable.

That's why Xabi Alonso's side has not been able to see the similar kind of success they had in the last season. I think if the same tactics have been used by the same coach with a great squad like Real Madrid or Manchester City, he would have still found success because the squad is much better and the depth is great. I think we'll also have to move on from this club and look at Real Madrid.

It doesn't feel to me like it's because of the team and the team depth he's not getting similar results as last season, literally he appears to be using almost same strategy and tactics, but it's not productive as much again, actually if you observed you are going to see that they are getting too many draws just like they did last season but this time they have got some lost games which they didn't last season, so if he had changed his tactics, it's very possible he would have been able to still have a great performance because now the bundesliga teams now understand his strategy and are following at such thereby rendering it less potent.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

Sadly, Dortmund has no guts to sack Sahin, they feel so reluctant to just send him a notice if they were sacking him. I don't know what's wrong with them. But, I assume they fear compensating Sahin if they sack him.

Also, i questioned Dortmund's reason for hiring Sahin as a coach. They should have hired a genuinely good and experienced manager.

Dortmund was choosing the same narrative as what Terzic had back at 22/23, but this is even worse than it.

Borussia Dortmund under Nuri Şahin have had a poor away record this season. but they now have a seven-match winning streak at home. A 7-match home winning streak is a record for Borussia Dortmund. On the other hand, Nuri Şahin's coaching career at Borussia Dortmund did not get off to a good start. But I think Borussia Dortmund should give him more chances. Nuri Şahin is a former Borussia Dortmund player and has experience in the German Bundesliga. I think he will start to get good results in away games as well.

[Luzin]

Almost 2 weeks the league will be off. The players who defended the country in the world cup qualifiers. Of course, this schedule is an addition that requires a lot of energy. The fitness of the players will be tested and there may be a possibility of fatigue that will make the players prone to injury. The reason is that the top players who are in the European first team have played with a very tight schedule. Leagues, league cups, UCL with new formats add to the problem of tight match schedules.

Other news from local media in Munich is interested in young players from the United States. He is Bajung Darboe. Reportedly, Munich has agreed on a transfer value of 1.5 million euros. Darboe will move to Munich in January. He came from the cooperation of Munich and LAFC on the Red & Gold Football program.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Dortmund has never for ones stay consistent for a whole season and if they have a chance of doing things right when it matters you see them dropping point like one of these clubs that are struggling go leave the relegation zone.

Never huh. Hmm, let's see where I can prove you wrong. Well, maybe by stating that Dortmund has been German champion 8 times in their history. Sure the last time was 2012 but still, 8 times. So choosing these words can't be more wrong.

Obviously they are going through a rough stretch at the moment, no question about that. Many team have problems from time to time, except Bayern maybe. That's what makes the sport interesting. It would be boring when all the time the same teams are on top, wouldn't it. That's why last season was so amazing! Who would have thought Leverkusen would be unbeaten and especially Stuttgart would take 2nd place on top of Bayern?

Fine these guys have been champions for long like years back but I don't want to know how long or when it happened, the thing is why are they not putting more effort to get the trophy back at least for ones? Take Arsenal for instance, they haven't won the title for 20 years and still counting but they're trying to be in that spotlight of becoming the champions even if they haven't won it yet and I'll pick Arsenal over Dortmund because the Gunners are more consistent than the German side Dortmund. The Gunners are trying but Dortmund can't stay winning for long, that's the thing with them (Dortmund).
I get your point and I agree with you but when you have that hunger of getting something you'd do every thing possible to get it even if it's your last strength so far as you'll get it done. These bad form is a rotational thing that non of the best teams can avoid but when you come to this Dortmund team, they can't stay without this bad performance because it has been with them for long and you know why I'm no pleased with them? Is because they are the only team that was fit enough to over shadow Bayern Munich back then, like they are the only big team to compete with the Barbarians but they couldn't win the title from them for ones, thats just it and they need to do better.

[tiCeR]

Borussia Dortmund under Nuri Şahin have had a poor away record this season. but they now have a seven-match winning streak at home. A 7-match home winning streak is a record for Borussia Dortmund. On the other hand, Nuri Şahin's coaching career at Borussia Dortmund did not get off to a good start. But I think Borussia Dortmund should give him more chances. Nuri Şahin is a former Borussia Dortmund player and has experience in the German Bundesliga. I think he will start to get good results in away games as well.

Where did you find the information that this is a record for Borussia Dortmund? You could simply include the link of the source you have been using.

As for Nuri Sahin, being a former Borussia Dortmund and a Bundesliga player are nice to have attributes, but they are never a guarantee for someone to develop the traits it takes to build world class football teams. I don't think that Nuri Sahin is the best coach for the club given the situation they are in. I would rather want a more experienced coach who has developed a team before. Even if it is only a very successful youth team, but Nuri Sahin literally has nothing to show. It was the worst choice in my opinion, but maybe it was because there was nobody else.

[bering]

Other news from local media in Munich is interested in young players from the United States. He is Bajung Darboe. Reportedly, Munich has agreed on a transfer value of 1.5 million euros. Darboe will move to Munich in January. He came from the cooperation of Munich and LAFC on the Red & Gold Football program.

Bajung Darboe is from Minnesota United youth academy and he is recognized as one of rising star for USA and about his career he was transfered to Los Angeles FC and if i am not mistaken Bajung Darboe did trial session on Bayern Munich but after that he was return to his current team Los Angeles FC and i couldn't find more information about this player because his status as junior team of Los Angeles FC and maybe why Bayern Munich was interested to him because Bajung Darboe probably will be used as long term project for Bayern Munich but i don't think Kompany will be interested to promote him to Bayern Munich main squad because currently Bayern Munich was filled it with complete players and i think Bajung Darboe will be placed at Junior team and playing much longer in this team to gets more experience

[Jody.Drummer]

Almost 2 weeks the league will be off. The players who defended the country in the world cup qualifiers. Of course, this schedule is an addition that requires a lot of energy. The fitness of the players will be tested and there may be a possibility of fatigue that will make the players prone to injury. The reason is that the top players who are in the European first team have played with a very tight schedule. Leagues, league cups, UCL with new formats add to the problem of tight match schedules.

They can't do anything and have to play more matches, especially for players who are trusted by the country to be part of the squad. However, the players will be very happy when they are called by their country, because it can be said that this is one of their goals. Because when they are called, they must have become players who deserve to be called.
Now regarding the Champions League schedule with a new format, it has actually been discussed for a long time. However, we are all in this new format, so clubs and players must enjoy it even though it cannot be denied that a denser schedule will drain more energy too.

[Dewi Aries]

Die Werkself does not have a great squad even though they have been able to win the Bundesliga title in the last season. It is clear they are still trying the same things that they have tried in the last season. The thing is now the opponent knows what Xabi Alonso is going to try to do and they have to come pretty much predictable.

That's why Xabi Alonso's side has not been able to see the similar kind of success they had in the last season. I think if the same tactics have been used by the same coach with a great squad like Real Madrid or Manchester City, he would have still found success because the squad is much better and the depth is great. I think we'll also have to move on from this club and look at Real Madrid.

It doesn't feel to me like it's because of the team and the team depth he's not getting similar results as last season, literally he appears to be using almost same strategy and tactics, but it's not productive as much again, actually if you observed you are going to see that they are getting too many draws just like they did last season but this time they have got some lost games which they didn't last season, so if he had changed his tactics, it's very possible he would have been able to still have a great performance because now the bundesliga teams now understand his strategy and are following at such thereby rendering it less potent.

Yes I think that's true and I also thought in that direction that most likely Xabi Alonso did not make many changes in terms of strategy or tactics, we know how amazing they were last season but of course such satisfying results will not always be repeated this season considering most of the other teams who must have known how Leverkusen's tactics and strategies are when playing, and that is the cause of their failure this season which made them draw more than win.

Now even though Leverkusen is still in the top four of the standings but they have a fairly large points difference with Bayern Munich, meaning that it is very unlikely for them to be able to defend the title they won last season, and also even if for example Xabi Alonso changes his tactics now but I think it's too late, so most likely they will fail to defend the title but finishing in the top four is still possible.