Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Adams0001]

Since Harry joined Bayern Munich were thought he could win the Bundesliga title and other than winning the title we were thinking he could win many other achievements like becoming the top scorer of the season because of his performance. Harry Kane has always been the first and best forward for Bayern Munich since he joined this team.
Now it seems he should race with Marmoush the player of Eintracht Frankfurt. Recently he scored another goal against Mainz and now Marmoush scored 11 goals same as Kane in the Bundesliga so far.

Last season Kane had the highest goal in the bundesliga, he's hasn't won the bundesliga title but he's has gotten some individual awards which I consider a good one, because as it regards winning the bundesliga title, he cannot do it all alone, hes got team mates whose support he needs to get that done but if the support isn't equating his efforts, he cannot be blamed completely so winning some personal or Individual awards clearly shows hes doing well anyways.

Last season, Bayern Munich failed to win the Bundesliga because Xabi Alonso was in better shape, and Tuchel was unable to improve Bayern Munich's performance, causing them to finish in second place last season, and everyone knows that Harry Kane tried his hardest to win the Bundesliga trophy last season but did not get the opportunity, but he did win the Golden Boot, but this season, I believe they are in good form and will do their best to win the title without making Leverkusen won it last time.

Xabi Alonso is not like last season,  because I believe some of the guys he played with previously are no longer with the club, making it tough for them to win some games. With how Bayern Munich is playing this season, I don't believe any club will be able to overtake them because they are in better shape. Even Dortmund, who usually perform and compete with them, is not doing well this season; they are having a poor league performance but are attempting to compete in the Champions League.

[SOKO-DEKE]

About the bad results that Dortmund got this season, maybe this season will make other teams succeed in finishing in the Champions League zone this season. Because it seems, Eintracht Frankfurt from season to season also has a good effort even though it still fails to survive in the top four. But at least, Eintracht Frankfurt always manages to be in the upper zone in the standings, although not in the top four, but at least Eintracht Frankfurt always manages to finish in the top ten in the last few seasons. Thus, maybe with the slump experienced by Dortmund this season will provide a good chance for other teams especially about Eintracht Frankfurt to be able to finish in the top four. But even so, I also still believe that Dortmund could rise quickly maybe in the second half of the season.

Seriously, Dortmund's performances are not really up to people's expectations. They are performing below their standard. With the set of players Dortmund has, I don't expect them to be performing like this. Before the season started, I thought Dortmund would be among the top two teams fighting for this season's Bundesliga trophy. But with the way they are performing currently, I don't even think they can make the top four easily.

In fact, both in the Bundesliga and Champions League competitions, their performances is not stable. When Dortmund started the Champions League this season, they were winning games by large margins, but recently their performances have dropped. If Dortmund can put in more effort, things will definitely change, as many matches have not been played yet.

[beerlover]

It is obviously going to be very hard for Alonso's squad to compete against really big opponents when Alonso does not have the quality players that he needs to beat those teams. I think we all agree that he definitely does not have those kinds of players. And I am not sure about one thing. We all are expecting him to take up the job in Real Madrid when there is a vacancy for a coach. Alonso should take it if there is an opportunity. But the way he seems to concentrate in the Bundesliga will he actually take the job if he has the chance? Maybe I am just overthinking.

The results have not been the best from Alonso's side recently. In the last five matches, his men have been able to win only once. And they have 4 draws. The good thing is they have not lost but this is not going to be good enough if Die Werkself wants to successfully defend the title.

He didn't had players that were "better" last season neither but he won, the point of Xabi Alonso getting offers from some of the great teams is because he managed to do a lot with very little and he was expected to do the same thing here again. I am not saying that he can, I am just saying that that's what he did. Expecting him to do the same thing twice in a row made no sense of course, he couldn't really do that well, we were talking about a manager who did the unthinkable once already, he went 51 or 52 games unbeaten and that was with Leverkusen, so it's really not that possible for him to make that work somehow neither, things do not really change much and we shouldn't really be considering that as possible at all.

Bayern will do fine this year, will win, and we need to consider this as normal, shouldn't really be putting too much attention to it. Xabi is still good, just because he isn't great like last season, doesn't mean he is suddenly bad, he is doing great for Leverkusen level players.

[Dzwaafu11]

The results have not been the best from Alonso's side recently. In the last five matches, his men have been able to win only once. And they have 4 draws. The good thing is they have not lost but this is not going to be good enough if Die Werkself wants to successfully defend the title.

As you have written at least Leverkusen havnt lost one of the last 5 games in the german league and the 4 draws are better as nothing.
Alonso have the quality players that is needed to beat other big teams in the german league and also in the Champions League.
But the other teams dosnt sleep and this season they know how Leverkusen is playing , also Leverkusen has not the luck anymore as they got last season.

Sure. It’s obvious Leverkusen are not lucky compared to last season, and I think this shows that Bayer Leverkusen cannot keep a long-term consistency like other big teams that have been performing for like 2 or 3 seasons have been doing because I was thinking they would be able to dominate the Garman League this season again, but unfortunately they failed to do that. They are not in good form like last season, which is obvious, and there were last season matches that they won only 1 that drew 4. I think that if no use, they would have won all the matches. I think that would be better, but they failed to do that. 

[Velvet78]

Leverkusen are really a huge disappointment this season. After a dream run I wasn't expecting them to have the exact same performance once again of course. It would be a way extra work to do for even the best European team.

However seeing them struggle this much was also not my expectation.    Collecting only 17 points in 10 games is a quite poor job if you still want to be competitive for the Bundesliga title. They draw very often and get away more from the top every week.

Do you wait for a comeback by them? Honestly my opinion is that this season will finally be Kane's. Bayern Munich should be able to become champions.

[Stable090]

The results have not been the best from Alonso's side recently. In the last five matches, his men have been able to win only once. And they have 4 draws. The good thing is they have not lost but this is not going to be good enough if Die Werkself wants to successfully defend the title.

As you have written at least Leverkusen havnt lost one of the last 5 games in the german league and the 4 draws are better as nothing.
Alonso have the quality players that is needed to beat other big teams in the german league and also in the Champions League.
But the other teams dosnt sleep and this season they know how Leverkusen is playing , also Leverkusen has not the luck anymore as they got last season.

Sure. It’s obvious Leverkusen are not lucky compared to last season, and I think this shows that Bayer Leverkusen cannot keep a long-term consistency like other big teams that have been performing for like 2 or 3 seasons have been doing because I was thinking they would be able to dominate the Garman League this season again, but unfortunately they failed to do that. They are not in good form like last season, which is obvious, and there were last season matches that they won only 1 that drew 4. I think that if no use, they would have won all the matches. I think that would be better, but they failed to do that. 

It is not much of a surprise to me that Leverkusen’s performance has dropped and they are not able to keep their great form like last season. Leverkusen really performed more people expectations last season and people are expecting them to keep to the form but I feel they were a little bit lucky last season and that was reason everything was going so well for them last season.

Before this season started, I would have said that it was likely Leverkusen would not maintain their last season form bec this has happened in many different leagues before, and those teams were unable to maintain their form. For example, Leicester City won the Premier League in England some season back, but their performance dropped significantly in the second season. Similar cases have been seen with other teams that seemed lucky based on their efforts.

The truth is that most of the players Leverkusen is using now are exhausted from the work they put in last season. If Leverkusen had signed more quality players to strengthen the team, it’s very possible that their they will maintain their last performance.

[Abu-Naim]

Leverkusen are really a huge disappointment this season. After a dream run I wasn't expecting them to have the exact same performance once again of course. It would be a way extra work to do for even the best European team.

However seeing them struggle this much was also not my expectation.    Collecting only 17 points in 10 games is a quite poor job if you still want to be competitive for the Bundesliga title. They draw very often and get away more from the top every week.

Do you wait for a comeback by them? Honestly my opinion is that this season will finally be Kane's. Bayern Munich should be able to become champions.

Honestly, I don’t expect much from Leverkusen this season because the team management and the coach didn’t look like they wanted same performance as last season that is why they didn’t attempt to sign quality players during the January transfer window.

Towards the end of last season, their performance was not as good as they started the season with because they do drop some points or even win or draw matches after coming from behind, and that same performance caused them the Europa League final; so I was expecting the management to sign new players to keep the momentum, but they failed to that, and since their style and patter of playing has been noticed, they can’t perform well this season unless they sign more players or change that’s pattern.

[el kaka22]

With the break underway, we can easily look at all the teams, seems like there isn't any team missing games, they all equally played 10 games, so we can now easily say that Bayern Munich will win the league. I get that it may not feel like that because it was close, but the gap grew and now it's five points. Leipzig did a good job hanging in there as close as possible, but with a loss and then followed that with a draw, suddenly they got five point gap when Bayern ended up winning both of those games.

If you want to beat Bayern, then you need to end up with a better result as well, and you need to keep winning, the moment you have back to back bad weeks, Bayern will use that as advantage and put a gap between you. The gap is two games now, and I do not think that Bayern will have 2m ore bad games than Leipzig for the remainder of the season, which is proof that we are not going to end up with anyone but Bayern win the league this season.

[hahay]

Leverkusen are really a huge disappointment this season. After a dream run I wasn't expecting them to have the exact same performance once again of course. It would be a way extra work to do for even the best European team.

However seeing them struggle this much was also not my expectation.    Collecting only 17 points in 10 games is a quite poor job if you still want to be competitive for the Bundesliga title. They draw very often and get away more from the top every week.

Do you wait for a comeback by them? Honestly my opinion is that this season will finally be Kane's. Bayern Munich should be able to become champions.

There is no hope and no disappointment, because basically Bayer Leverkusen is not a team capable of continuing to be a title candidate. Because after all, in Bayer Leverkusen's best season last season too,  the fact is that Bayer Leverkusen still failed in the Europa League final. Thus, Bayer Leverkusen's failure this season for me is a natural result to happen. Moreover, when it comes to the Bundesliga then of course there will always be Bayern Munich to be the team to win the trophy. Thus, it is not surprising that this season Bayern Munich is back at the top of the Bundesliga table because at least, no other team in the Bundesliga is able to maintain its good performance from season to season  other than Bayern Munich.

[KTChampions]

By and large, of the two issues (the fight for the title and the fight for a ticket to the Champions League), only one remains: the fight for a ticket to the Champions League. Everything is quite simple, there is nothing to rack your brains about. Bookmakers estimate Dortmund's chances of making it to the top 4 as 2.10, i.e. close to 50%. Considering that there is a high probability that the Bundesliga will get 5 tickets to the Champions League, as in the last season, Dortmund's chances are not bad.

KTChampions correct me if I am wrong, but to me it looks that there are only 4 tickets to the Champions League. See here in the table at the bottom, it says that 1st to 4th will only qualify for the Champions League and there is no country that has 5 starting spots. I don't know for sure, but to me it looks like 4th is the cut-off.

I believe that this is going to be hard for Borussia Dortmund. They are not underperforming temporarily, they are having big problems within the team that I think cannot be solved just like that. There are several teams that I think will be ahead of Borussia Dortmund.

From your link:

Association ranking
For the 2025–26 UEFA Champions League, the associations are allocated places according to their 2024 UEFA association coefficients, which takes into account their performance in European competitions from 2019–20 to 2023–24.[3] The table reflects Russia's ongoing suspension from UEFA.

Apart from the allocation based on the association coefficients, associations may have additional teams participating in the Champions League, as noted below:

(EPS) – European Performance Spot, the additional berths for associations who finish in the top 2 of the 2024–25 association coefficients

Now we just check who got into this season's Champions League based on the results of last season: Bayern, Bayer, Leipzig, Dortmund, Stuttgart. Similarly, Italy has 5 participating teams.
It is believed that at the end of this season, England will most likely enter the top 2 and receive an additional ticket, but for the remaining spot, in my opinion, Germany will be able to compete with Italy.
Theoretically, one country can have 7 teams in the group stage of the Champions League. To do this, you need to be in the top 2 in the rating + clubs from this country must win the Champions League and the Europa League, but finish below 5th place in the national championship.

[tiCeR]

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From your link:

Association ranking
For the 2025–26 UEFA Champions League, the associations are allocated places according to their 2024 UEFA association coefficients, which takes into account their performance in European competitions from 2019–20 to 2023–24.[3] The table reflects Russia's ongoing suspension from UEFA.

Apart from the allocation based on the association coefficients, associations may have additional teams participating in the Champions League, as noted below:

(EPS) – European Performance Spot, the additional berths for associations who finish in the top 2 of the 2024–25 association coefficients

Now we just check who got into this season's Champions League based on the results of last season: Bayern, Bayer, Leipzig, Dortmund, Stuttgart. Similarly, Italy has 5 participating teams.
It is believed that at the end of this season, England will most likely enter the top 2 and receive an additional ticket, but for the remaining spot, in my opinion, Germany will be able to compete with Italy.
Theoretically, one country can have 7 teams in the group stage of the Champions League. To do this, you need to be in the top 2 in the rating + clubs from this country must win the Champions League and the Europa League, but finish below 5th place in the national championship.

Yes right, that was the part I did obviously miss when I skimmed the article. Ok then you are right, thanks for pointing that out. I thought it was an exception in 2024-25 based on this UEFA coefficient and that weaker leagues will get two more playoff spots.

Well then back to our discussion whether Borussia Dortmund can make the cut, yes, that changes a lot. I know it is only one spot, but it does change the situation significantly. I don't see Borussia Dortmund in the top 4 right now. But rank 5 is quite possible. But my honest opinion is that even rank 5 won't be easy for them. There could always be a consistent surprise team like Freiburg or Union Berlin and there is still Stuttgart being only 3 points behind, but out of shape at the moment.

[MAAManda]

Do you wait for a comeback by them? Honestly my opinion is that this season will finally be Kane's. Bayern Munich should be able to become champions.

Not at all, I came with the belief that Leverkusen were just lucky to win the Bundesliga last season. So, it is not surprising to see them only in 4th place at the moment. Harry Kane's dream seems to be coming true this season, winning his first Bundesliga title, we are still not half the matches played, but I think we can make some conclusions from now.

[baeva]

Dortmund is not in a good rhythm this season. Since the beginning of the season, we have seen inconsistent performances from Dortmund. Even getting into the top four of the table is very difficult for Dortmund this season. Frankfurt and Leipzig's overall performance is more organized and strong compared to Dortmund.

I think Dortmund's main weakness is their defense. Dortmund has conceded 18 goals in 10 matches. Leipzig has conceded only 5 goals in 10 matches. Although Frankfurt has conceded 16 goals, Frankfurt's attacking line-up is very strong. If Dortmund's coach cannot strengthen his squad's defense, Dortmund has no chance of getting into the top four of the table.

Borussia Dortmund is an example of a club that cannot utilize their potential very well, so they have to fight even harder to be in the top 4 of the current standings. In fact, in terms of ability, they are actually very capable of being the best in the Bundesliga, but they do not utilize it and instead they prioritize their business over achievement. Management must change their habits if they want to see Borussia Dortmund become champions. Look at their very loyal supporters, but they never present what the fans want. This is important, because achievement is actually something that should be the main priority, especially since they are very capable of it.

If they see the club as a business, then alas, they won't change anything because it makes them money. And something can change in this case only under one condition - change of management, which is unlikely to happen at the will of the fans. For the second season in a row they are performing mediocre. If two years ago they almost won the league, now they play as if they don't care anymore

[kawetsriyanto]

Not at all, I came with the belief that Leverkusen were just lucky to win the Bundesliga last season. So, it is not surprising to see them only in 4th place at the moment. Harry Kane's dream seems to be coming true this season, winning his first Bundesliga title, we are still not half the matches played, but I think we can make some conclusions from now.

Yep, it seems impossible that Leverkusen will end up this season as a champion again. However, I think it is untrue if Leverkusen won the Bundesliga trophy due to the luck factor only. You must remember Leverkusen was unbeaten in Bundesliga until the end of the season, they only got 6 draws. Also, we must remember that they also reach the final round in UEL, too. So, it was very clear that Leverkusen was a very strong team. It is strange if we assume they won it because of the luck factor.

TBH, I'm surprised to see them in 4th place now. It is a very big decline with their performance. I think Xabi Alonso's tactic is no longer effective, other teams know how to deal with Xabi's tactics. It is time to change the tactics, make it to be more offensive. Some key players may need to be changed with the new ones. Especially for the players in the attacking line.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Although Dortmund still seems to have a chance to enter the top four, it doesn't seem easy at all because the next opponent is Freiburg who also still has the ambition to compete to enter the top four. The points gap is still very close like that, of course it will make the competition more difficult because each team will also do their best to be in a better  position in the standings. Interestingly, Leipzig and Eintracht Frankfurt seem to be able to create a safe points gap with the teams below them, because teams like Bayer Leverkusen who are currently in fourth place are experiencing inconsistency so that they get a fairly wide points gap with Eintracht Frankfurt and also Leipzig who are in second and third positions.

I understand, but let's remember that the Bundesliga is very exciting in the end, it's not like the 2nd Bundesliga where from one moment to the next the team goes up when it's very low, besides there is a scheme that seems strange to me, I don't see why Leverkusen doesn't go up more, I agree that Byaern is playing a lot, wow because the truth is they are doing very well, but they are the defending champions, sometimes it's not such a good idea to concentrate only on the UCL, the Bundesliga is very important too, so I think there should be a balance.

[Weawant]

Sure. It’s obvious Leverkusen are not lucky compared to last season, and I think this shows that Bayer Leverkusen cannot keep a long-term consistency like other big teams that have been performing for like 2 or 3 seasons have been doing because I was thinking they would be able to dominate the Garman League this season again, but unfortunately they failed to do that. They are not in good form like last season, which is obvious, and there were last season matches that they won only 1 that drew 4. I think that if no use, they would have won all the matches. I think that would be better, but they failed to do that.

Winning all the matches in a season is one thing I have hardly seen any team achieved, they may have been able to stay unbeaten for the longest but they have not actually won all the games in that season, rather they only win a few and draw the rest.  But in the verm a league, Leverkusen isn't doing so bad just yet already so I don't think we can see them any less, they can still be able to achieve a whole lot before the season ends Just that they will still need to improve their performance to get such results but they aren't lost of hopes already, there's still room for them to still be able to make up for the losses and set back so far

[TelolettOm]

The competition between Harry Kane and Omar Marmoush is getting tighter, and very balanced. Both with 11 goals, but different in the number of assists. and other statistics that are also competing.

Marmoush looks better, he's not only a goal scorer, but he can also dribbling and build up.

But, I still think Harry Kane will become the top scorer because Bayern Munich has better people who can support Kane and they tend to score more goals than Frankfurt.

Marmoush deserve to play in top teams, maybe Arsenal or Manchester City? they're looking for attacking midfielder.

Indeed, he has a very good dribbling ability, that's why at this time, there are several top clubs that are eyeing the Egyptian Center-Forward. The most widely reported are Liverpool and also Barcelona. Will Frankfurt release their mainstay forward where their club is on the rise and is in the top 3 of the Bundesliga? Well, let's see, sometimes conditions can turn around quickly.

But, I still think Harry Kane will become the top scorer because Bayern Munich has better people who can support Kane and they tend to score more goals than Frankfurt.

Marmoush deserve to play in top teams, maybe Arsenal or Manchester City? they're looking for attacking midfielder.

Yes, if Harry Kane is indeed besides being great at scoring goals, there are more squads in the Bayern Munich team that make and contribute to Harry Kane to score more goals. Yes, he gets more support to score more goals, that's no wonder, and added or equipped with his ability to score goals is already very promising.

[adultcrypto]

The results have not been the best from Alonso's side recently. In the last five matches, his men have been able to win only once. And they have 4 draws. The good thing is they have not lost but this is not going to be good enough if Die Werkself wants to successfully defend the title.

As you have written at least Leverkusen havnt lost one of the last 5 games in the german league and the 4 draws are better as nothing.
Alonso have the quality players that is needed to beat other big teams in the german league and also in the Champions League.
But the other teams dosnt sleep and this season they know how Leverkusen is playing , also Leverkusen has not the luck anymore as they got last season.

Four draws is a very terrible result for a team like Bayern Leverkusen that wants to win the league. That is eight points that was lost, something that can make a difference in their position in the table. I don't even think they will have any joy in those draws because some of the matches that ended in draws were games they supposed to win. I remember when they hosted Holstein Kiel and even opened the scoring and achieved a two goals lead. That match ending in a draw was very disappointing for all. Bayern Leverkusen are never excited about their series of draws.

[TopT3ns]

Although Dortmund still seems to have a chance to enter the top four, it doesn't seem easy at all because the next opponent is Freiburg who also still has the ambition to compete to enter the top four. The points gap is still very close like that, of course it will make the competition more difficult because each team will also do their best to be in a better  position in the standings. Interestingly, Leipzig and Eintracht Frankfurt seem to be able to create a safe points gap with the teams below them, because teams like Bayer Leverkusen who are currently in fourth place are experiencing inconsistency so that they get a fairly wide points gap with Eintracht Frankfurt and also Leipzig who are in second and third positions.

I understand, but let's remember that the Bundesliga is very exciting in the end, it's not like the 2nd Bundesliga where from one moment to the next the team goes up when it's very low, besides there is a scheme that seems strange to me, I don't see why Leverkusen doesn't go up more, I agree that Byaern is playing a lot, wow because the truth is they are doing very well, but they are the defending champions, sometimes it's not such a good idea to concentrate only on the UCL, the Bundesliga is very important too, so I think there should be a balance.

Surprisingly, the Bundesliga has a certain curious look to it, particularly in the dynamics that befit every Commendation as living and unpredicted. Sometimes teams like Leverkusen play below what is expected of them while on the other hand Bayern plays like a team that has been defending their title in this competition making the journey difficult. Of course, it is essential to concentrate on the Champions League, however, continuity in the Bundesliga is equally useful, as the strength of the competition is in the everyday struggle between European aspiration and German commitment. We can watch the rivalry that we see is developing even more; we have the nice thought that each of the teams can demonstrate their top level all the time, starting from the first game and till the last one.

[blue Snow]

Indeed, he has a very good dribbling ability, that's why at this time, there are several top clubs that are eyeing the Egyptian Center-Forward. The most widely reported are Liverpool and also Barcelona. Will Frankfurt release their mainstay forward where their club is on the rise and is in the top 3 of the Bundesliga? Well, let's see, sometimes conditions can turn around quickly.

When we compare him with Viktor Gyökeres, Marmoush is indeed cheaper, Barcelona must contact him asap if wants his service. We may not be surprised if Eintracht Frankfurt will not release him at a cheap price (under 40 million euros), because he has created 14 goals and 10 assists during 16 matches. His contribution also brings Eintracht to 3rd place in the top standings.

Marmoush has to be potential to be a great player if he is placed at the right club. Liverpool is also interested in recruiting him because he was projected to replace Salah, they are both from Egypt, and it's not impossible Salah will persuade him to join together. But, it depends on who makes the great offers. Eintracht won't just let him go if doesn't match because they still have the ambition to defeat Munchen's position.