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February 12, 2025, 08:38:22 PM
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Dortmund seems too focused on the champions league, they managed to win with a score of 0-3 in today's match. Dortmund's performance in the champions league is in contrast to the Bundesliga because in the Bundesliga Dortmund has experienced a fairly sharp decline because they are currently stuck in 11th place. The change of coach was made by management in order to bring about changes to their performance in the Bundesliga.
It is obvious that Dortmund do not have any chance of contending for the title this season and at such can only focus all their attention on the champions league which in my opinion is the only shot they have this season to lay their hands on something, though they do not look like a team that can win the champions league at the moment but they can at least go as far as the quarter finals or the semis if they can be able to fight better.
Dortmund won a very important victory against Lisbon yesterday. As we all know, they no longer have a chance of becoming champions in the Bundesliga. The only and most important goal for them is the Champions League. They are lucky in this regard because their opponents Sporting Lisbon were one of the teams with equal strength that they could face. In fact, they managed to score three goals against them away from home in the match they played yesterday and they are returning to the match in Germany with a very big advantage. They have most likely passed this round, what is important is how they will play against their opponents after this round.

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February 12, 2025, 09:06:21 PM
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I didn't think Dortmund would pull off such an upset against Sporting in the Champions League, a 0-3 win away of course have been a very impressive  result. indeed, Kovac first game in Bundesliga was quite disappointing because Dortmund lost at home  against Stuttgart. But after that, Kovac managed to make Dortmund get  a  big win in the Champions League, and with the bigwin in the first leg,  it will certainly make Dortmund will be in a better situation  for the secondleg later which will be played  in Dortmund.In addition, Guirassy is also still the top scorer in the Champions League,although Dortmund is still in  a difficult  situation in the Bundesliga standings, but Dortmund is still a good team  in the Champions League.
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February 12, 2025, 10:17:24 PM
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Winning Bayern Munich will be difficult for Leverkusen this time; I was expecting Leverkusen to keep the gap close but they failed by dropping some points against Wolfsburg last week; this result gives Bayern more confidence in the title race because they have widen the points gap to eight points instead of six points.

Leverkusen defeated Bayern in their last cup match, and drew against Bayern in their Bundesliga first leg game, I don’t think Vincent Kompany’s side will take it likely with them because their main hope is in the Bundesliga title this season since they have been eliminated in some cups and they have also not confident in the Champions League.
I think I’ll expect Bayern Munich to win this coming match, and if they win the match, it means Leverkusen should just give up in the title race because the points gap will be eleven points which will be wide.

Bayern Munich will surely win against Bayer Leverkusen. Bayern Munich has not shown any sign of weakness throughout the season, although Bayer Leverkusen looks like a team that will overtake them, but after losing points against Wolfsburg, they drop in points. Bayern Munich is ahead of them with 8 points currently.

That is enough to say Bayern Munich has a high chance of winning the league trophy this season because Bayern Munich will do everything possible to keep their consistency to avoid dropping points that will give Bayer Leverkusen any chance to get to the top spot, so I believe Bayern Munich will win the match.

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February 12, 2025, 10:19:12 PM
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Initially I doubted Dortmund in UCL but in yesterday's match I was a little surprised. From their performance there was no change and it was still the same as before when they appeared with a little difficulty. But what makes Dortmund different from before is just the way they attack quickly when they have the chance and make Sporting's defense have difficulty.
And in my opinion if Dortmund has to focus on the Bundesliga it is also a tough choice because at least Dortmund has to fight better in UCL and on the one hand competing in UCL is currently a tough task. While the points difference is very far if you have to chase the top 4 or top 3 positions.
The UCL is one league almost every big team in eeurope wishes to always play in and that is due to the prestige and all the pride that come with it, its the league for the best and so participating there only means you have to be like the best or be the best and so so much priority is placed on the game and so it could be Dortmund had that levels of consideration with the UCL and so they could pit up such varying performances.

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February 12, 2025, 11:16:40 PM
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Winning Bayern Munich will be difficult for Leverkusen this time; I was expecting Leverkusen to keep the gap close but they failed by dropping some points against Wolfsburg last week; this result gives Bayern more confidence in the title race because they have widen the points gap to eight points instead of six points.

Leverkusen defeated Bayern in their last cup match, and drew against Bayern in their Bundesliga first leg game, I don’t think Vincent Kompany’s side will take it likely with them because their main hope is in the Bundesliga title this season since they have been eliminated in some cups and they have also not confident in the Champions League.
I think I’ll expect Bayern Munich to win this coming match, and if they win the match, it means Leverkusen should just give up in the title race because the points gap will be eleven points which will be wide.

Bayern Munich will surely win against Bayer Leverkusen. Bayern Munich has not shown any sign of weakness throughout the season, although Bayer Leverkusen looks like a team that will overtake them, but after losing points against Wolfsburg, they drop in points. Bayern Munich is ahead of them with 8 points currently.

That is enough to say Bayern Munich has a high chance of winning the league trophy this season because Bayern Munich will do everything possible to keep their consistency to avoid dropping points that will give Bayer Leverkusen any chance to get to the top spot, so I believe Bayern Munich will win the match.

Ok but if your nonsense was true, how is it then possible that Bayer Leverkusen won against Bayern in the DFB Pokal and how is it possible that Bayern couldn't beat Leverkusen when they played the last game against each other in the Allianz Arena? Did you say both times that Bayern will surely win the game? Then this  means you would have been wrong 100% of the time with your predictions. Since yous said that they have not shown any signs of weaknesses throughout the season and I will add that Leverkusen did show such signs and they had weaknesses when they last played against each other, how is it possible that so far Bayern could not beat Leverkusen when you tell everyone the opposite?
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I agree on that , that if they would be playing the same good as they have done yesterday in the Champions League against Sporting Dortmund would be in one of the first places.
Its a bit disappointing what have played so far in the German League , we dont know the problem why they struggle in the German League.
Dortmund can play very good as they showed yesterday , so fingers crossed the new Coach can bring them back on track.
Yes, if only Dortmund could be that good in the Bundesliga too, then at least, the club could qualify for the next UCL. It's quite unfortunate why their performance in the Bundesliga has dropped so much. Last season they could only finish in 5th position, but at least that was good enough. rather than this time being thrown to 11th position. It's getting worse.

Even though they have a very good striker, who even in the UCL, became the top scorer, competing with Lewy and Haaland. But, yes, football is a mater of the whole team entirely.

Source: Serhou Guirassy is now level with Erling Haaland and Robert Lewandowski

Ok but if your nonsense was true, how is it then possible that Bayer Leverkusen won against Bayern in the DFB Pokal and how is it possible that Bayern couldn't beat Leverkusen when they played the last game against each other in the Allianz Arena? Did you say both times that Bayern will surely win the game?
This match will indeed be quite complicated and high tension. At the time of the DFB Pokal, Bayern Munich did lose. But at that time there were several reasons:
- Bayern Munich got a red card since the 17th minute
- Harry Kane was absent in the match

While in the next match, it seems that Bayern Munich will play a full squad first layer, so, this will be a bit difficult for Leverkusen. Especially lately, the combination between Harry Kane and Olise is very good.
But, surely, none knows the 100% exact prediction, so just enjoy the show and bet on what we believe on it. or, let it be without nay bet


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February 12, 2025, 11:34:28 PM
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Dortmund seems too focused on the champions league, they managed to win with a score of 0-3 in today's match. Dortmund's performance in the champions league is in contrast to the Bundesliga because in the Bundesliga Dortmund has experienced a fairly sharp decline because they are currently stuck in 11th place. The change of coach was made by management in order to bring about changes to their performance in the Bundesliga.

However, to compete strongly in the Bundesliga it seems that it will be quite difficult to happen again, because in previous seasons Dortmund always competed at the top of the standings but this season they are struggling in the middle of the standings. They sell their star players too often, maybe this is what makes them always fail to become champions and can even slump like this season.

Niko Kovač started his work in the Bundesliga as Dortmund coach last game and I must say that in my opinion Dortmund is bad in defense and the mentality of the players seems to be weak, just look at the nonsense that Julian Ryerson did in the last game, Julian Ryerson and defense. I think that the new Dortmund coach will have some headaches, I believe that for defense he should put the same players that he put in the game against Sporting in the European Champions League, if in the next game against Bochum he does that, then Dortmund will win, that's why I bet on Dortmund's victory against Bochum.
The appointment of Nuri Sahin at the beginning of this season as Dortmund coach was certainly not the right thing to do by Dortmund management because under his coaching many players had difficulty adapting to the strategy pattern he implemented. Defeat after defeat made Dortmund management take a stance to part with Nuri Sahin in the second half of the season.

Now under their new coach, Kovac, progress has been seen to be better, victory in the Champions League is expected to be a motivation for them to rise in the Bundesliga. Dortmund is a big team in the Bundesliga, I am sure Kovac will be able to do something to bring Dortmund back to victory.
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February 12, 2025, 11:54:22 PM
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I agree on that , that if they would be playing the same good as they have done yesterday in the Champions League against Sporting Dortmund would be in one of the first places.
Its a bit disappointing what have played so far in the German League , we dont know the problem why they struggle in the German League.
Dortmund can play very good as they showed yesterday , so fingers crossed the new Coach can bring them back on track.
Yes, if only Dortmund could be that good in the Bundesliga too, then at least, the club could qualify for the next UCL. It's quite unfortunate why their performance in the Bundesliga has dropped so much. Last season they could only finish in 5th position, but at least that was good enough. rather than this time being thrown to 11th position. It's getting worse.


Yeah, currently they are in the 11th position but 7 points separates 11th spot from top 4 in the Bundesliga which is actually realistic if they improve more than this and start winning games. If Dortmund is consistent enough from now till the end of the season, mathematically, thy can actually finish in top 4 in my opinion because the that spot is still open for any serious team.

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February 12, 2025, 11:59:07 PM
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I agree on that , that if they would be playing the same good as they have done yesterday in the Champions League against Sporting Dortmund would be in one of the first places.
Its a bit disappointing what have played so far in the German League , we dont know the problem why they struggle in the German League.
Dortmund can play very good as they showed yesterday , so fingers crossed the new Coach can bring them back on track.
Yes, if only Dortmund could be that good in the Bundesliga too, then at least, the club could qualify for the next UCL. It's quite unfortunate why their performance in the Bundesliga has dropped so much. Last season they could only finish in 5th position, but at least that was good enough. rather than this time being thrown to 11th position. It's getting worse.
You are thinking in the same direction as me because I find it surprising how Borussia Dortmund will be this strong in the Champions League but somehow weak in the German Bundesliga.  Assuming they can maintain the same energy and form, they would have been better positioned in the league. However, I noticed they have been picking up form even in the league matches and I know they can build on that and see how they end the season.

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You are thinking in the same direction as me because I find it surprising how Borussia Dortmund will be this strong in the Champions League but somehow weak in the German Bundesliga.  Assuming they can maintain the same energy and form, they would have been better positioned in the league. However, I noticed they have been picking up form even in the league matches and I know they can build on that and see how they end the season.
Dortmund have always had the ability when participating in the Champions League competition but the group stage so far has not shown anything because maybe the opponents they faced were not too strong. If you pay attention when Dortmund lost three games in the Champions League and generally it was against much stronger teams so their performance in the Champions League was also not completely improved. But even so, the achievements they got in the Champions League show a positive side because even though they played worse in the Bundesliga they managed to show their best in the Champions League.

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February 13, 2025, 03:40:28 AM
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You are thinking in the same direction as me because I find it surprising how Borussia Dortmund will be this strong in the Champions League but somehow weak in the German Bundesliga.  Assuming they can maintain the same energy and form, they would have been better positioned in the league. However, I noticed they have been picking up form even in the league matches and I know they can build on that and see how they end the season.
Dortmund have always had the ability when participating in the Champions League competition but the group stage so far has not shown anything because maybe the opponents they faced were not too strong. If you pay attention when Dortmund lost three games in the Champions League and generally it was against much stronger teams so their performance in the Champions League was also not completely improved. But even so, the achievements they got in the Champions League show a positive side because even though they played worse in the Bundesliga they managed to show their best in the Champions League.

That is literally what I thought and against stronger opponents they need some game luck. When they were able to score two goals against Real Madrid, it was as well because Real Madrid wasn't playing well. In other words, Dortmund can do something against those teams when they have a good day and the strong opponents have a bad day. The second half time against Real Madrid has demonstrated what is going to happen if they play their very best and Dortmund can't counter it anymore.

I said it before that I think Dortmund still lacks quite a bit of quality players. They can play great football as a team, but sometimes you need a superstar who can come to the rescue. For Real Madrid it was Vinicius Junior in the Champions League game who turned everything upside down.

What I also noticed is that the Champions League results cover up things they are doing wrong in the Bundesliga on a weekly basis. For example against Sporting now, if they repeat that game a couple of times, I think Dortmund will lose it because Sporting had great chances in the first half but wasn't able to use them. If they did, Dortmund would have been down 0-3. In the Bundesliga those significant weaknesses are revealed all too often both against weaker and stronger teams.
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Bayern Munich will surely win against Bayer Leverkusen. Bayern Munich has not shown any sign of weakness throughout the season, although Bayer Leverkusen looks like a team that will overtake them, but after losing points against Wolfsburg, they drop in points. Bayern Munich is ahead of them with 8 points currently.

That is enough to say Bayern Munich has a high chance of winning the league trophy this season because Bayern Munich will do everything possible to keep their consistency to avoid dropping points that will give Bayer Leverkusen any chance to get to the top spot, so I believe Bayern Munich will win the match.
I do not think it is true that Bayern Munich will definitely win against Bayer Leverkusen. Even though Bayern Munich has played well all season and is 8 points ahead Bayer Leverkusen is still strong team that could cause problems. Just because Leverkusen lost to Wolfsburg and fell behind in points it does not mean they will give up trying to catch up. Also football is game where unexpected things can happen and sometimes teams that are not expected to win actually do. So while Bayern Munich has good chance of winning league game against Leverkusen is not sure thing.

 
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February 13, 2025, 06:48:03 AM
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Dortmund have always had the ability when participating in the Champions League competition but the group stage so far has not shown anything because maybe the opponents they faced were not too strong. If you pay attention when Dortmund lost three games in the Champions League and generally it was against much stronger teams so their performance in the Champions League was also not completely improved. But even so, the achievements they got in the Champions League show a positive side because even though they played worse in the Bundesliga they managed to show their best in the Champions League.
I even thought that Dortmund was no longer so focused on the Bundesliga competition and only focused more on the Champions League competition even though they still couldn't win there. However, if we look at what happened to Dortmund last season in the Champions League, it was also a pretty great achievement because Dortmund was able to advance to the final even though they were defeated by Real Madrid in the final. But strangely enough, why didn't Dortmund fight hard in the Bundesliga to get their best position even though it wasn't for the champion position because it was more likely not possible at this time.

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February 13, 2025, 09:54:54 AM
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Sometimes teams focus on one trophy and use all their strength to win it. The situation is the same for Dortmund because they don't perform well in the league but they manage to play very well in the Champions League. There may be many reasons why players can't play as well as they want in the league, but I think the biggest reason is that they are thinking about the Champions League.

I do not agree with you in respect to Dortmund focusing on the Champions League more than the domestic league, Dortmund started their poor performance even before playing the champions League this season they also didn't perform well in the league last season but they were lucky to go far in the champions League so I think for a team like Dortmund they are finding it difficult to win matches

If the champions League was were the strength of Borussia Dortmund is what were they doing on 10th place on league stage?, were they not supposed to be on the first four?, what you said @GiftedMAN is true, neither in the domestic league nor on the champions League Borussia Dortmund is a competitor, based on how it is for them the last time I think they are just making an excuse to have people believe that they don't want Bundesliga when the truth is that they can do anything to get the trophy but their capacity is too minor because there should have been an improvement on one side to justify what they are saying but this one nothing is justifiable for them, they are only fortunate they gave them Sporting CF, so since they won them 3:0 Borussia Dortmund will qualify but after sporting we would see whom they would future them together with and how they would win them as Sporting CF.

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Sometimes teams focus on one trophy and use all their strength to win it. The situation is the same for Dortmund because they don't perform well in the league but they manage to play very well in the Champions League. There may be many reasons why players can't play as well as they want in the league, but I think the biggest reason is that they are thinking about the Champions League.

I do not agree with you in respect to Dortmund focusing on the Champions League more than the domestic league, Dortmund started their poor performance even before playing the champions League this season they also didn't perform well in the league last season but they were lucky to go far in the champions League so I think for a team like Dortmund they are finding it difficult to win matches

If the champions League was were the strength of Borussia Dortmund is what were they doing on 10th place on league stage?, were they not supposed to be on the first four?, what you said @GiftedMAN is true, neither in the domestic league nor on the champions League Borussia Dortmund is a competitor, based on how it is for them the last time I think they are just making an excuse to have people believe that they don't want Bundesliga when the truth is that they can do anything to get the trophy but their capacity is too minor because there should have been an improvement on one side to justify what they are saying but this one nothing is justifiable for them, they are only fortunate they gave them Sporting CF, so since they won them 3:0 Borussia Dortmund will qualify but after sporting we would see whom they would future them together with and how they would win them as Sporting CF.
Let's not forget that they played in the Champions League final last year. They almost did very well in the final, but it didn't work out. Borussia Dortmund started very badly this year. After the change of manager, the team got a little better and they beat a strong team like Sporting Lisbon by three goals in Portugal. Now the match in Germany has become just a formality. They will probably advance to the next round with the support of the fans in Germany. I am hopeful for the future. The Champions League team that will face them will have difficult days ahead of them.

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Dortmund have always had the ability when participating in the Champions League competition but the group stage so far has not shown anything because maybe the opponents they faced were not too strong. If you pay attention when Dortmund lost three games in the Champions League and generally it was against much stronger teams so their performance in the Champions League was also not completely improved. But even so, the achievements they got in the Champions League show a positive side because even though they played worse in the Bundesliga they managed to show their best in the Champions League.
I even thought that Dortmund was no longer so focused on the Bundesliga competition and only focused more on the Champions League competition even though they still couldn't win there. However, if we look at what happened to Dortmund last season in the Champions League, it was also a pretty great achievement because Dortmund was able to advance to the final even though they were defeated by Real Madrid in the final. But strangely enough, why didn't Dortmund fight hard in the Bundesliga to get their best position even though it wasn't for the champion position because it was more likely not possible at this time.
In the Bundesliga they need quite a lot of points to be in the top 4 and ensure 1 place to be in the Champions League next season. Their chances are still there even though they are quite small, well they have to be able to focus on that because it would be very disappointing if they could not be in the Champions League next season. If they focus more on the Champions League, it sounds like they don't care much about the Bundesliga. That is something they should not do, because in the Champions League there is no guarantee that they can become champions, so they have to put both equally.

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February 13, 2025, 11:03:03 AM
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In the remaining matches that are still quite a lot of course Leverkusen only needs to focus on the consistency of its performance, if they can continue to maintain consistency and get 3 points of course it will put pressure on Bayern Munich who are at the top of the standings moreover there is no guarantee that Bayern Munich can continue to win in the remaining Bundesliga matches this season.
I see the competition between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen will be fierce until the end of the season and I do not think that a difference of 6 points is a difficult distance to catch up.
A difference of six points with the current leader of the standings can certainly provide a little more encouragement for Leverkusen to catch up, but Bayern Munich itself also does not want to be careless in anything because Munich will also strengthen its performance in the rest of this season until the end so it will not be easy enough for Leverkusen to catch up unless Leverkusen can beat Munich and hope Munich can lose to one of the other teams in the rest of this season. Because Leverkusen needs to excel in terms of goal achievement when the points are the same and also excel in the number of points over Munich in order to occupy first place in the Bundesliga this season.
Obviously the match in a few days will be decisive for the rest of the league. Leverkusen has to win this match. If they can't win this match and lose to Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich will probably be unbeatable for the rest of the league. Bayern Munich is currently leading the league and Leverkusen is following them. If Bayer Leverkusen can beat them, they may be able to continue their claim for the championship. However, any negative result will also knock them out of the championship race. And Bayern Munich will be heading towards the championship on their own. Therefore, Leverkusen has no choice but to win the match.

 
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February 13, 2025, 11:07:55 AM
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In the Bundesliga they need quite a lot of points to be in the top 4 and ensure 1 place to be in the Champions League next season. Their chances are still there even though they are quite small, well they have to be able to focus on that because it would be very disappointing if they could not be in the Champions League next season. If they focus more on the Champions League, it sounds like they don't care much about the Bundesliga. That is something they should not do, because in the Champions League there is no guarantee that they can become champions, so they have to put both equally.
Dortmund must be realistic about the targets they want to achieve, I am not so sure they will be able to focus on achieving big targets especially in the Champions League. I think Dortmund must be able to chase maximum points in the remaining matches because the bad start at the beginning of the league has made it difficult for the team to concentrate again.

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In the Bundesliga they need quite a lot of points to be in the top 4 and ensure 1 place to be in the Champions League next season. Their chances are still there even though they are quite small, well they have to be able to focus on that because it would be very disappointing if they could not be in the Champions League next season. If they focus more on the Champions League, it sounds like they don't care much about the Bundesliga. That is something they should not do, because in the Champions League there is no guarantee that they can become champions, so they have to put both equally.
Dortmund must be realistic about the targets they want to achieve, I am not so sure they will be able to focus on achieving big targets especially in the Champions League. I think Dortmund must be able to chase maximum points in the remaining matches because the bad start at the beginning of the league has made it difficult for the team to concentrate again.
I am sure they will perform as well as they can in the Champions League. However, I think their main goal should be to achieve the league ranking required for the Champions League. Because Dortmund has performed very poorly in the league this year and their current ranking is not very good. The Dortmund we used to have was a team competing for the championship in the league. The current situation is not like that. Therefore, it may be more realistic for them to aim for the top positions in the Bundesliga instead of the Champions League.

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February 13, 2025, 12:18:33 PM
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Initially I doubted Dortmund in UCL but in yesterday's match I was a little surprised. From their performance there was no change and it was still the same as before when they appeared with a little difficulty. But what makes Dortmund different from before is just the way they attack quickly when they have the chance and make Sporting's defense have difficulty.
And in my opinion if Dortmund has to focus on the Bundesliga it is also a tough choice because at least Dortmund has to fight better in UCL and on the one hand competing in UCL is currently a tough task. While the points difference is very far if you have to chase the top 4 or top 3 positions.
The UCL is one league almost every big team in eeurope wishes to always play in and that is due to the prestige and all the pride that come with it, its the league for the best and so participating there only means you have to be like the best or be the best and so so much priority is placed on the game and so it could be Dortmund had that levels of consideration with the UCL and so they could pit up such varying performances.
Last year, Dortmund was not very good in the league but they played perfectly in the Champions League. This year, they did not have a bad performance in the Champions League. The game they played against Real Madrid was also very good, but they lost the match due to very stupid decisions. After seeing the game they played against Real Madrid, I understand that they really prepared for the Champions League. Also, this magnificent victory they got against Sporting Lisbon in the first match shows us how important the Champions League is for them. I think Dortmund is one of the surprise teams in the Champions League.

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