Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Jody.Drummer]

Then tell me which team other than Liverpool has been able to perform optimally. Manchester City is out, Real Madrid had to play the playoffs, Juventus Turin is out, Atalanta is out, AC Milan is out… there are a lot of clubs that haven‘t played optimally, which makes it quite a level-playing field. Liverpool is the favorite this season, but I think a lot of teams have chances. 

Seriously speaking, this season champions league is complicated with the kind result we've been witnessing in every game week and it doesn't matter whether you are performing optimally or not. Most predicted favourite teams are struggle and end up playing in the play off and still the assumed weak teams eliminate the supposed strong teams. Bayern Munich hasn't been in their best form but they're not doing bad in both competitions compared to other teams that have been eliminated. Liverpool seems to be the only phenomenon club with a good and clean record but it is hard to conclude them as the favourite team to win. Just like you said, every team has a chance at the moment until they're being eliminated.

Seeing that, it is true that Liverpool is a club that can play well and consistently, or in other words so far they are the club with the best performance in the Champions League this season. But as said, that also cannot be a guarantee considering the many unexpected things at all this season. If they can be consistent with what they have shown so far, then they will be able to win the title. And that would be extraordinary considering this season is their first season with a new coach. Of course that will make the coach's name on the wind, this is an advantage.

[Velvet78]

FC St Pauli x4.20 Vs Borussia Dortmund x1.87; Draw x3.60

1.87 for Dortmund to win against St Pauli? It is really like a gift honestly.    But I don't know when I'm going to be able to trust Dortmund fully again. They are really in a big mess...

I remember how they lost to Kiel by 4-2 away previously. Against the team at the bottom of the standings... You can't be that bad man.

St Pauli are a team that are trying to keep away from the relegation zone. And can't win for weeks. I'm not sure whether it is worth taking the risk by Dortmund win.

[Xcode7]

Then tell me which team other than Liverpool has been able to perform optimally. Manchester City is out, Real Madrid had to play the playoffs, Juventus Turin is out, Atalanta is out, AC Milan is out… there are a lot of clubs that haven‘t played optimally, which makes it quite a level-playing field. Liverpool is the favorite this season, but I think a lot of teams have chances. 

Seriously speaking, this season champions league is complicated with the kind result we've been witnessing in every game week and it doesn't matter whether you are performing optimally or not. Most predicted favourite teams are struggle and end up playing in the play off and still the assumed weak teams eliminate the supposed strong teams. Bayern Munich hasn't been in their best form but they're not doing bad in both competitions compared to other teams that have been eliminated. Liverpool seems to be the only phenomenon club with a good and clean record but it is hard to conclude them as the favourite team to win. Just like you said, every team has a chance at the moment until they're being eliminated.

Seeing that, it is true that Liverpool is a club that can play well and consistently, or in other words so far they are the club with the best performance in the Champions League this season. But as said, that also cannot be a guarantee considering the many unexpected things at all this season. If they can be consistent with what they have shown so far, then they will be able to win the title. And that would be extraordinary considering this season is their first season with a new coach. Of course that will make the coach's name on the wind, this is an advantage.

But the journey is still very long now Champion League has just entered the last 16 and also what needs to be remembered is that in football anything is possible and there are also many surprises that occur in the Champion League competition that were never expected before, Liverpool does have an impressive performance but no one guarantees that they will be able to provide or show such performance until the end of the season.

And Bayern Munich also cannot be underestimated in the Champion League competition because now they can share focus after being comfortable enough at the top of the Bundesliga standings without any pressure of course making Bayern Munich now more focused on the Champion League competition so everything is still possible to happen.

[Hyphen(-)]

combining the three over 2.5 bets (Wolfsburg Schalke, Bayern-Leverkusen, Dortmund Hertha) gives you 3.48x  not quite to the moon but definitely better APY than most staking rewards rn.

Exactly, cutting it short is the best thing to avoid greed and these games you predicted should play because they look well and these teams are scoring goals recently. Some gamblers are very greedy, they do pile up many games intending all to play at the same time which is not proper; I do call that greed because they are eying big money at once while they do always use little amount of money to stake the games.

Bayern Munich needs this three points to keep widening the points gap between them Bayer Leverkusen because this Bundesliga is likely the only title they can bag this season because the Champions League looks like a difficult one for them as they will have to play their top rivals in the Bundesliga again both home and away in the Champions League, and if they qualified, they will keep playing other bigger teams which is not certain for them; therefore, focusing on the Bundesliga should be the best option for Vincent Kompany so as not to go trophy less this season.

[beerlover]

Kompany is doing a brilliant job at Bayern but I believe he is also lucky to have met a very good squad in the club, Thomas Tuchel would also have done the same or almost the same if he was given more chance to prove himself, he was only unlucky. Good players are all over Bayern, they just need the right orientation and motivation and you will see them performing well. Even Kane who is the highest goal score was the handy work of Thomas Tuchel, and many like that.

I am aware of this about Kompany, he is not a terrible manager. Because at the start of the season I assumed he would be terrible, and while winning the title with Bayern Munich isn't a big achievement, a really bad one could have lost the league too, last season Bayern had Tuchel, could we say he is a bad manager? Of course not, dude finished with more points than some of the champions years, but Leverkusen had an unbelievable year.

So Kompany just took Bayern, and made them do what they were suppose to do, not a huge achievement but at least he didn't underperform. That is what I expected of him to do, underperform, have bad results, show the world he is a bad manager and make Bayern lose. But he didn't, so that is a great deal.

[Lafu]

Bayern Munich will pay a visit to Stuttgart's home tonight and on the table they occupy the first position, with at least 8 points clear of their closest competition,
Bayer Leverkusen and 22 points ahead of their opponents this night.

Normaly i would say its ahrd to play and in Stuttgart when they was playing good, but in the last weeks that changed at some time.
Stuttgart has the players and the team that they can beat Bayern Munich today at home , and another reason for that is tha maybe Bayern Munich goes fully for the next week CL.
But on the other hand i guess that the luck will be on Munichs side and that they win today.

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For you both Jody.Drummer and ndutndut this is not the Champions League thread , please post your thoughts and things about it in the Champions League Thread.
Dont spam that things in the German League Thread as this is not the place for it.

[len01]

1.87 for Dortmund to win against St Pauli? It is really like a gift honestly.    But I don't know when I'm going to be able to trust Dortmund fully again. They are really in a big mess...

I remember how they lost to Kiel by 4-2 away previously. Against the team at the bottom of the standings... You can't be that bad man.

St Pauli are a team that are trying to keep away from the relegation zone. And can't win for weeks. I'm not sure whether it is worth taking the risk by Dortmund win.

The odds are too big as a team that is guaranteed to get a victory and I appreciate your doubts because Dortmund has not been predicted and unstable lately. This makes us as bettors hesitant to take this risk.

There are other options that are more comfortable at this time if we hesitate to bet on Dortmund's victory, we can choose the BTTS (YES) option. I believe Dortmund will not look good when competing away and at least St. Pauli can score 1 score against Dortmund's goal. The odds are around @1.5 and that's the most comfortable option at this time.

[eightdots]

1.87 for Dortmund to win against St Pauli? It is really like a gift honestly.    But I don't know when I'm going to be able to trust Dortmund fully again. They are really in a big mess...

I remember how they lost to Kiel by 4-2 away previously. Against the team at the bottom of the standings... You can't be that bad man.

St Pauli are a team that are trying to keep away from the relegation zone. And can't win for weeks. I'm not sure whether it is worth taking the risk by Dortmund win.

The odds are too big as a team that is guaranteed to get a victory and I appreciate your doubts because Dortmund has not been predicted and unstable lately. This makes us as bettors hesitant to take this risk.

There are other options that are more comfortable at this time if we hesitate to bet on Dortmund's victory, we can choose the BTTS (YES) option. I believe Dortmund will not look good when competing away and at least St. Pauli can score 1 score against Dortmund's goal. The odds are around @1.5 and that's the most comfortable option at this time.

Dortmund has not been able to play the game they want and have had unexpected results in every match. That's why it's so hard to predict. If they had been good or more consistent, it would have been easier to predict. Now even the favorites are losing so easily, that's why it's hard to predict.

St. Pauli will do their best to get at least one point in this match because they can't face a Dortmund that is not always in form. I think it will be a good match and I want it to be a high-scoring match.

[Jody.Drummer]

Seeing that, it is true that Liverpool is a club that can play well and consistently, or in other words so far they are the club with the best performance in the Champions League this season. But as said, that also cannot be a guarantee considering the many unexpected things at all this season. If they can be consistent with what they have shown so far, then they will be able to win the title. And that would be extraordinary considering this season is their first season with a new coach. Of course that will make the coach's name on the wind, this is an advantage.

But the journey is still very long now Champion League has just entered the last 16 and also what needs to be remembered is that in football anything is possible and there are also many surprises that occur in the Champion League competition that were never expected before, Liverpool does have an impressive performance but no one guarantees that they will be able to provide or show such performance until the end of the season.

And Bayern Munich also cannot be underestimated in the Champion League competition because now they can share focus after being comfortable enough at the top of the Bundesliga standings without any pressure of course making Bayern Munich now more focused on the Champion League competition so everything is still possible to happen.

Of course, with what they have shown so far, it does not mean that they can guarantee that they can win the title. As you said, the journey is still long, so it is still very possible that something will happen that makes them fail in the end. But we are talking about opportunities here, so if we talk about that, then everything I said before is based on their performance. Obviously there are still other clubs that will give them competition and also pressure that can make them lose. Because talking about the Champions League, that means we are talking about mentality here.

[Salahmu]

Looking at the list of Bundesliga's top scorers, Kane still has 21 goals. He played 21 games plus 6 assists. In second place are Patrick Shick with 15 goals and Marmoush with 15 goals. But with Marmoush's move to Man City, it is certain that his goals will not increase. List of Top Scores until week 23.
1. Harry Kane 21 goals
2. Patrick Shick 15 goals
3. Omar Marmoush 15 goals
4. Kleindienst team 14 goals
5. J. Burkardt 13 goals
It looks like it's going to be difficult to shift Kane, I think he'll be the top scorer again this season.

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/stats/players/goals

Harry Kane is the favourite to win the top scorer prize in the Bundesliga. But several factors could prevent him from becoming the Bundesliga top scorer, such as injury and fatigue or the coach's decision to rotate the squad.  All these could all impact his goal tally. To secure the top scorer award this season, he must stay injury free, maintain consistency and capitalize on every scrounge opportunity especially in crucial matches.

This Bundesliga is ticker than several other Bundesliga because I no there goals are always many to some players based on how they usually score because 21 goal as the highest is very small for me, Bundesliga top scorers now should have 30 goals upward, though not that Harry Kane did not try for scoring 21 for those 21 games but my goal judgement is from the reputation of Bundesliga in relation to goalscorers, I don't no how many that was scored this time on the last season but I no it could be more than this. However for the fact that Harry Kane score on all the matches he will be the winner because he might also score on every others while he has already distance the rest.

[Juse14]

The match between Bayern Munich VS VfB has started and is now entering the 35th minute. Facing VfB who are playing as hosts, it seems that Harry Kane and his friends will have difficulty scoring a quick goal to gain an advantage. and even at this time Bayern Munich must be one goal behind VfB so that for the time being the score is 1-0.

But in any case Bayern Munich is the most favored team to be able to win, the match is still long and I really look forward to Harry Kane's goal, I'm sure they can equalize. although actually a draw or loss is not a problem for Bayern Munich because they have a fairly large point difference, but to continue to show their dominance and to strengthen their position at the top of the standings, getting 3 full points in this match is quite important.

[junder]

1.87 for Dortmund to win against St Pauli? It is really like a gift honestly.    But I don't know when I'm going to be able to trust Dortmund fully again. They are really in a big mess...

I remember how they lost to Kiel by 4-2 away previously. Against the team at the bottom of the standings... You can't be that bad man.

St Pauli are a team that are trying to keep away from the relegation zone. And can't win for weeks. I'm not sure whether it is worth taking the risk by Dortmund win.

The odds are too big as a team that is guaranteed to get a victory and I appreciate your doubts because Dortmund has not been predicted and unstable lately. This makes us as bettors hesitant to take this risk.

There are other options that are more comfortable at this time if we hesitate to bet on Dortmund's victory, we can choose the BTTS (YES) option. I believe Dortmund will not look good when competing away and at least St. Pauli can score 1 score against Dortmund's goal. The odds are around @1.5 and that's the most comfortable option at this time.

Dortmund has not been able to play the game they want and have had unexpected results in every match. That's why it's so hard to predict. If they had been good or more consistent, it would have been easier to predict. Now even the favorites are losing so easily, that's why it's hard to predict.

St. Pauli will do their best to get at least one point in this match because they can't face a Dortmund that is not always in form. I think it will be a good match and I want it to be a high-scoring match.

It is true that Dortmund is a very bad team this season despite having a big name and quality players, they have disappointed bettors too often, but there is something interesting in their last match, they performed very well by winning big, this can be considered in betting. On the other hand, if we look at St Pauli, they do not have a sharp attack, their advantage is in the defense side which is quite good, another advantage in this match is that they are playing in front of their own supporters, I tend to see a draw in this match.

[Furious 7]

Right now it's actually for the Bundesliga trophy although there are still quite a few games left in the season but I'm pretty sure they can get it to make up for last season's loss for now although Leverkusen are now still trying not to lose momentum and keep their points gap. But indeed in the end the point gap between Bayern and Leverkusen is currently 8 points meaning Bayern must feel 3 defeats and Leverkusen must get a win when Bayern lose if they really want to compete or overtake them from the standings and this is clearly a difficult situation because beating Bayern at this time is clearly very difficult.

Not that they can't lose because in some moments last season they sometimes lost unexpectedly to unexpected clubs but indeed the conditions are only small possibilities for that so for now the Bundesliga is almost certain I think they get. and for other competitions especially the Champions League they still have potential even though it is difficult because a lot of big clubs are still possible with more probability than them.

Although you have also said it, it will be very difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to meet you at the Bayern Munich point in the table because I don’t think Bayern Munich will tend to lose 3 games even though we know it’s not certain because they can still lose, but losing 3 games will not be as easy even though Bayer Leverkusen is still consistent in their performance, which is the same as Bayern Munich. I don’t think the Bundesliga trophy will be out from Bayern Munich this season; it will be very hard because all indications have shown that they will definitely be the winner of this season. 8 points is not as easy as it’s written..

That's what's now difficult because even though sometimes some unexpected matches including when Bayern lost to some smaller clubs are always possible but expecting Bayern to lose 3 times in a row in the remaining matches now with them who are in great confidence is certainly not easy (unless luck is owned by Leverkusen) but on the other hand we also can't rule out this possibility because no matter how small the chance is but before the season ends they still have to keep fighting until the end because sometimes there are always some surprises for the Bundesliga including in the last 2 seasons where previously Dortmund had to give the trophy in the last match in the last 2 seasons and Leverkusen who managed to make an extraordinary achievement in the previous season which was a surprise so for now I think there could be another surprise for the Bundesliga even though the situation is still a bit difficult for now.

[SOKO-DEKE]

The match between Bayern Munich VS VfB has started and is now entering the 35th minute. Facing VfB who are playing as hosts, it seems that Harry Kane and his friends will have difficulty scoring a quick goal to gain an advantage. and even at this time Bayern Munich must be one goal behind VfB so that for the time being the score is 1-0.

But in any case Bayern Munich is the most favored team to be able to win, the match is still long and I really look forward to Harry Kane's goal, I'm sure they can equalize. although actually a draw or loss is not a problem for Bayern Munich because they have a fairly large point difference, but to continue to show their dominance and to strengthen their position at the top of the standings, getting 3 full points in this match is quite important.

It is already half-time, and it ended in a draw of 1-1, which we don’t know what Bayern Munich will come up with in the second half. We all have seen their performance in the first half, and I have that belief that Bayern Munich will be able to win the game, no doubt, although even if they don’t win the game, they already have enough of a point gap, but it’s just as you said: for them to prove their strength at the top of the table, they deserve to win this game so that they will be able to have more of a gap and prove that they are the dominant team in the league. But let's wait and see how the game will come to an end. Will it be a win for Bayern Munich, or will they maintain the draw till the end of the game?

[Egii Nna]

Right now it's actually for the Bundesliga trophy although there are still quite a few games left in the season but I'm pretty sure they can get it to make up for last season's loss for now although Leverkusen are now still trying not to lose momentum and keep their points gap. But indeed in the end the point gap between Bayern and Leverkusen is currently 8 points meaning Bayern must feel 3 defeats and Leverkusen must get a win when Bayern lose if they really want to compete or overtake them from the standings and this is clearly a difficult situation because beating Bayern at this time is clearly very difficult.

Not that they can't lose because in some moments last season they sometimes lost unexpectedly to unexpected clubs but indeed the conditions are only small possibilities for that so for now the Bundesliga is almost certain I think they get. and for other competitions especially the Champions League they still have potential even though it is difficult because a lot of big clubs are still possible with more probability than them.

Although you have also said it, it will be very difficult for Bayer Leverkusen to meet you at the Bayern Munich point in the table because I don’t think Bayern Munich will tend to lose 3 games even though we know it’s not certain because they can still lose, but losing 3 games will not be as easy even though Bayer Leverkusen is still consistent in their performance, which is the same as Bayern Munich. I don’t think the Bundesliga trophy will be out from Bayern Munich this season; it will be very hard because all indications have shown that they will definitely be the winner of this season. 8 points is not as easy as it’s written..

That's what's now difficult because even though sometimes some unexpected matches including when Bayern lost to some smaller clubs are always possible but expecting Bayern to lose 3 times in a row in the remaining matches now with them who are in great confidence is certainly not easy (unless luck is owned by Leverkusen) but on the other hand we also can't rule out this possibility because no matter how small the chance is but before the season ends they still have to keep fighting until the end because sometimes there are always some surprises for the Bundesliga including in the last 2 seasons where previously Dortmund had to give the trophy in the last match in the last 2 seasons and Leverkusen who managed to make an extraordinary achievement in the previous season which was a surprise so for now I think there could be another surprise for the Bundesliga even though the situation is still a bit difficult for now.

It seems somehow difficult to meet up to Bayern Munich points in the table because if they ended up getting a win in today’s game, they would have an 11 point gap with Bayer Leverkusen, and we all know that there is a high chance of them winning because based on the performance seen, even though I know the first goal of the game, I still have a higher hope for them winning because even their attacks are extraordinary. Moreover, these are the main dominances of Bundesliga this season, so we are expecting to see consistent wins from them without any doubt of frequent loss.

[iBaba]

It is true that Dortmund is a very bad team this season despite having a big name and quality players, they have disappointed bettors too often, but there is something interesting in their last match, they performed very well by winning big, this can be considered in betting. On the other hand, if we look at St Pauli, they do not have a sharp attack, their advantage is in the defense side which is quite good, another advantage in this match is that they are playing in front of their own supporters, I tend to see a draw in this match.

Dortmund is really at their low level right now with the current performance this season. Sitting on the 10th position of the table standing in the Bundesliga is not a good performance at all. The inconsistency in their games have resulted to this weak performance where they were only able to secure both 9 wins and 9 loses in their games so far. Although they won a whooping 6 goals to none against Union Berlin but the Union Berlin are 3rd club below them. They have not really made much impact this season like in the last season.

It is already half-time, and it ended in a draw of 1-1, which we don’t know what Bayern Munich will come up with in the second half. We all have seen their performance in the first half, and I have that belief that Bayern Munich will be able to win the game, no doubt, although even if they don’t win the game, they already have enough of a point gap, but it’s just as you said: for them to prove their strength at the top of the table, they deserve to win this game so that they will be able to have more of a gap and prove that they are the dominant team in the league. But let's wait and see how the game will come to an end. Will it be a win for Bayern Munich, or will they maintain the draw till the end of the game?

This match is more important to Stuttgart right now than it is to Bayern Munich in my opinion because Bayern is already soaring high at the top level of the table standing with 58 points and a difference of 8 points above the second team which is Leverkusen. However, for Stuttgart winning this match is an opportunity for them to move a step ahead of Leipzig but the possibility of that happening is extremely slim.

[Adbitco]

The match between Bayern Munich VS VfB has started and is now entering the 35th minute. Facing VfB who are playing as hosts, it seems that Harry Kane and his friends will have difficulty scoring a quick goal to gain an advantage. and even at this time Bayern Munich must be one goal behind VfB so that for the time being the score is 1-0.

But in any case Bayern Munich is the most favored team to be able to win, the match is still long and I really look forward to Harry Kane's goal, I'm sure they can equalize. although actually a draw or loss is not a problem for Bayern Munich because they have a fairly large point difference, but to continue to show their dominance and to strengthen their position at the top of the standings, getting 3 full points in this match is quite important.

It is already half-time, and it ended in a draw of 1-1, which we don’t know what Bayern Munich will come up with in the second half. We all have seen their performance in the first half, and I have that belief that Bayern Munich will be able to win the game, no doubt, although even if they don’t win the game, they already have enough of a point gap, but it’s just as you said: for them to prove their strength at the top of the table, they deserve to win this game so that they will be able to have more of a gap and prove that they are the dominant team in the league. But let's wait and see how the game will come to an end. Will it be a win for Bayern Munich, or will they maintain the draw till the end of the game?

I knew that early lead by Stuttgart was going to go anywhere, it was really a way of making those that played the game both teams to score or both teams to score and Bayern Munich to win or both teams to score and ov 2.5 enter. I already knew it was going to be a win for the league leaders. What I really don't get is why Bayern Munich is scheduled to play today while Bayern Leverkusen plays tomorrow, why didn't German FA fix the two games to take place today since both teams will be meeting each other in the Champions League league few days from today.

[Cryptoprincess101]

It is true that Dortmund is a very bad team this season despite having a big name and quality players, they have disappointed bettors too often, but there is something interesting in their last match, they performed very well by winning big, this can be considered in betting. On the other hand, if we look at St Pauli, they do not have a sharp attack, their advantage is in the defense side which is quite good, another advantage in this match is that they are playing in front of their own supporters, I tend to see a draw in this match.

Borussia Dortmund is a commercial club that is mostly interested in developing young talented players and then sell them to other clubs and this mentality has really hindered the success and growth of the club for many years if not they used to be strong title contenders against Bayern Munich. Dortmund is not in a very reliable form so anyone who is betting on them should instead go for over goals or both teams to score but if you pick on Dortmund to win directly, you may likely lose your bet since they are not consistent, they can lose their match at any time. St Pauli is a promoted team so their strength and that of Borussia Dortmund cannot be the same, Dortmund can win them without much stress though both teams can still score because Borussia Dortmund's defense is not strong enough.

[Nanga Parbat]

Their main focus is to get the Bundesliga title back, but they also want the Champions League, so as long as they can still fight for it, they will not let the opportunity pass them by. Especially if they manage to claim the title early in the Bundesliga, then they will shift their focus entirely to the Champions League. But Vincent Kompany should be able to make both of them the same priority, because they have not achieved anything in the Champions League for a long time, so they also have to work hard to achieve something good this season in the Champions League.

For the Champions League Bayern Munich's chances are very small, where we can see how they played during the group stage. The competition in the Champions League will be much fiercer because they will face strong teams, unless Bayern Munich can perform much more consistently than before. The focus on the Bundesliga is much better even though in the Champions League they are still fighting to win it, but I think the opportunity that must really be utilized is chasing the Bundesliga trophy for this season.

Tomorrow we will see big match between VfB Stuttgart football team and Bayern Munich football team, that match match will be in the ground of MHPArena . Bayern Munich team is much stronger and favorite for that match because that team always give hundred percent to win the match and that team has first position on the table. That team has 58 points on the table which is very excellent and that team lose only 1 match in the Bundesliga tournament. VfB Stuttgart team has 7th position on the table which is not bad and that team players are of top quality and could win this match.The matters , tomorrow which team players play well because which team will play well,will be winner of the match.

[Majestic-milf]

Normaly i would say its ahrd to play and in Stuttgart when they was playing good, but in the last weeks that changed at some time.
Stuttgart has the players and the team that they can beat Bayern Munich today at home , and another reason for that is tha maybe Bayern Munich goes fully for the next week CL.
But on the other hand i guess that the luck will be on Munichs side and that they win today.

It was as easy as one, two and three for Bayern Munich. In the first half, Stuttgart seemed to apply pressure over Bayern and had the first goal but Micheal Olise equalized before the first half finished an I felt that they will be able to follow up with the same drive because one thing with big teams is that when you match them at their game, they become confused and start making mistakes but Stuttgart chose to relax and feel they could lock Bayern Munich with a tight defense but that wasn't to be because it was easily broken and Bayern were able to penetrate.