ArticMine
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November 22, 2015, 02:09:31 AM |
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29. b4
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XMRpromotions
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November 22, 2015, 03:35:24 AM |
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29. b4
29.b4 (ArticMine, XMRpromotions)
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smooth
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November 22, 2015, 04:29:56 AM |
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b4 and offer draw
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tifozi
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November 22, 2015, 06:28:32 AM |
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Yah 1/2-1/2 is likely here.
In hindsight 14 Qa5 (Black) and 27. Be6 (white) were the big mistakes.
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ArticMine
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November 22, 2015, 09:46:45 PM |
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I am voting against the draw offer. I find it premature in this kind of position.
29. b4 (ArticMine, XMRpromotions, smooth)
Draw offer For: smooth Against: ArticMine
If tie the draw offer stands since the for preceeded the against.
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smooth
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November 22, 2015, 10:38:16 PM |
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I think we can consider the draw offer as part of the move which means it wasn't a tie (yet):
29. b4 (ArticMine, XMRpromotions) 29. b4, offer draw (smooth)
I'm willing to change my vote to just b4 without the offer of a draw if needed.
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ArticMine
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November 22, 2015, 10:54:43 PM |
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I think we can consider the draw offer as part of the move which means it wasn't a tie (yet):
29. b4 (ArticMine, XMRpromotions) 29. b4, offer draw (smooth)
I'm willing to change my vote to just b4 without the offer of a draw if needed.
I am fine with this.
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November 22, 2015, 11:34:41 PM Last edit: November 23, 2015, 02:05:29 AM by XMRpromotions |
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I think we can consider the draw offer as part of the move which means it wasn't a tie (yet):
29. b4 (ArticMine, XMRpromotions) 29. b4, offer draw (smooth)
I'm willing to change my vote to just b4 without the offer of a draw if needed.
I agree with smooth that the draw offer should be part of the move. There is actually a FIDE rule that kind of supports this: "If a player makes a draw offer before making their move, the opponent can ask them to make their move before deciding." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_by_agreementWith this requirement we also avoid the situation where a team silent on an draw offer discussion can might have one team member vote for the leading move at 23:58UTC and add a draw offer. I do think the game is likely to end in a draw but there are still some chances for both sides in my opinion. I vote to keep playing for now but will reconsider offering a draw if it becomes clear that neither side can make progress.
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boolberry (OP)
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November 23, 2015, 12:02:46 AM Last edit: November 24, 2015, 11:54:46 PM by boolberry |
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Current positionBased on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play b4. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC. Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)black to move Game PGN: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Qxd4 a6 5.c4 Nc6 6.Qe3 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.h3 Nd7 11.b3 Nc5 12.Bb2 f5 13.exf5 Bxf5 14.Rad1 Qa5 15.Rd2 Rf6 16.Nd5 Re6 17.Qf4 Ne4 18.Bxg7 Kxg7 19.Rb2 Nc3 20.Nd4 Re5 21.Bf3 Nxd5 22.Bxd5 Qc3 23.Nxf5+ Rxf5 24.Qd2 Qxd2 25.Rxd2 Rb8 26.a3 e5 27.Be6 Rf6 28.Bd5 Nd4 29.b4
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boolberry (OP)
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November 23, 2015, 12:13:18 AM |
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I like b6 here. It both makes c5 more difficult for white and frees our rook from defending the pawn.
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languagehasmeaning
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November 23, 2015, 02:41:21 AM |
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b6: 2 votes (boolberry, languagehasmeaning)
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tifozi
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November 23, 2015, 03:46:56 AM |
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b5 leads to a quicker draw (exchange with no positional advantage or disadvantage, unless white gets experimental)
b5: 1 vote (tifozi) b6: 2 votes (boolberry, languagehasmeaning)
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languagehasmeaning
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November 23, 2015, 04:00:46 AM |
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b5 leads to a quicker draw (exchange with no positional advantage or disadvantage, unless white gets experimental)
b5: 1 vote (tifozi) b6: 2 votes (boolberry, languagehasmeaning)
I agree that b5 would be an easier way to attempt forcing a draw. That is precisely the reason why I chose b6. I hope we can keep the game interesting and avoid unnecessary simplifications. Based on some of the comments above I believe some of the Monero players feel the same way. The game may end in a draw but it won't be for a lack of effort from either side!
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newb4now
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November 23, 2015, 10:09:42 PM |
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b5 leads to a quicker draw (exchange with no positional advantage or disadvantage, unless white gets experimental)
b5: 1 vote (tifozi) b6: 2 votes (boolberry, languagehasmeaning)
b5: 1 vote (tifozi) b6: 3 votes (boolberry, languagehasmeaning, newb4now)
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boolberry (OP)
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November 24, 2015, 12:10:11 AM Last edit: November 24, 2015, 11:55:06 PM by boolberry |
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Current positionBased on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play b6. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC. Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)white to move Game PGN: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Qxd4 a6 5.c4 Nc6 6.Qe3 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.h3 Nd7 11.b3 Nc5 12.Bb2 f5 13.exf5 Bxf5 14.Rad1 Qa5 15.Rd2 Rf6 16.Nd5 Re6 17.Qf4 Ne4 18.Bxg7 Kxg7 19.Rb2 Nc3 20.Nd4 Re5 21.Bf3 Nxd5 22.Bxd5 Qc3 23.Nxf5+ Rxf5 24.Qd2 Qxd2 25.Rxd2 Rb8 26.a3 e5 27.Be6 Rf6 28.Bd5 Nd4 29.b4 b6
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ArticMine
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November 24, 2015, 05:49:36 AM |
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30. Rb2
Prevents a4 and leaves the option of Ra1 open. I do not like the idea of of Re1 where both rooks and the king are left on a potential knight fork. The queen side is where I see the potential opportunity for us.
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November 24, 2015, 08:40:13 PM |
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Re1 (XMRpromotions) Rb2 (ArticMine, smooth)
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LucyLovesCrypto
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November 24, 2015, 10:34:22 PM |
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Re1 (XMRpromotions) Rb2 (ArticMine, smooth, LucyLovesCrypto)
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boolberry (OP)
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November 24, 2015, 11:56:29 PM |
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Current positionBased on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Rb2. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC. Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)black to move Game PGN: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Qxd4 a6 5.c4 Nc6 6.Qe3 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Be2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.h3 Nd7 11.b3 Nc5 12.Bb2 f5 13.exf5 Bxf5 14.Rad1 Qa5 15.Rd2 Rf6 16.Nd5 Re6 17.Qf4 Ne4 18.Bxg7 Kxg7 19.Rb2 Nc3 20.Nd4 Re5 21.Bf3 Nxd5 22.Bxd5 Qc3 23.Nxf5+ Rxf5 24.Qd2 Qxd2 25.Rxd2 Rb8 26.a3 e5 27.Be6 Rf6 28.Bd5 Nd4 29.b4 b6 30.Rb2
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