Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40]

[BCB]

OP update your OP to replace pirateat40  with Trendon Shavers

[BCB]

Good points repentance

I not sure anyone can compel Trendon to relinquishment the control of the BTC he has remaining.  It will probably all be cashed out and spent by the time any legal proceeding take effect.

Also who has an official record of the creditors and what they are owed?  This does not exist anywhere and I'm sure the PPT's are ALL going to agree to divulge this info to the SEC or other wise.  So event if someone was able to recover $500,000 from pirate, it would be nearly impossible to fairly distribute a pro rata share to all of the legitimate investors.   

Pirate knew this and it was probably part of the plan.  Smart guy.  Master manipulator.  Too bad he couldn't use his powers for good.

Regardless he can't be allowed to walk away from this. 

[bitlane]

Another thread, yawn.

Well Burt, you can either make another 10,000 BTC bet against yourself...OR...you can help....Y-A-W-N

[AndrewBUD]

Ahhh he has a nice family... What a stupid asshole putting all those people through this shit.....

[strideynet]

Sadly I'm not pirate. I wish I was sometimes tho. No I'm not him.
Just someone who thinks everyone should just stop trying to get him

[AndrewBUD]

Sadly I'm not pirate. I wish I was sometimes tho. No I'm not him.
Just someone who thinks everyone should just stop trying to get him

Why? are you someone that invested with Pirate?

[strideynet]

No. I wanna be him because people gave him their money. I dunno. It's just he's pretty wealthy right now.
And I need money so. Being him ain't that bad. And tbth the authorities wouldn't worry me for some reason.
Just move out and run to somewhere with no laws and fast internet.
Guys what your doing I think might be illegal. Just warning you. Creating a website with someone's full private details isn't what you want people to see. Be really carefull.really really carefull.

[BCB]

little man Trendon Shavers on the right
And his brother Ryan on the left

[bitlane]

His brother Rylan.

[Brunic]

Sorry this isn't up to my usual prose and totally lacking details/info, but I'm rushed tonight and need sleep... yes, I made the call. BTW thank you Bruno and BCB for talking with me today, it was a great help. I will write up a more detailed update on the trendon/pirate situation sometime this week so that everyone knows what's going on. There's no longer any reason for me to hide what I'm doing, which means the information I've gathered will go back into the public sphere soon. It will be very useful to re-establish a central repository and official information update thread to keep track of everything.

Let me know if you have any questions. You can expect a stickied thread from me later in the week as well as the re-emergence of a defined plan of action, all involved parties and info, real communication to and from the SEC, a central repository for everything, and more.

-BrightAnarchist

Hi Bright, I have a question.

The info you will publish, is it going to be completely public? Or are you going to keep a part of the info private?

Thanks

[repentance]

Are the real life identities of all of the PPT operators even known (no need to put their RL identities here, I'm just curious about whether we actually know the identities of the people who hold a lot of evidence)?

Do we even have a list of all the people who attended the Las Vegas meet-up? 

Like it or not, the PPT operators were an integral part of this particular scam and there can be no meaningful investigation of Trendon's ponzi without their activities also being examined.

[BCB]

Are the real life identities of all of the PPT operators even known (no need to put their RL identities here, I'm just curious about whether we actually know the identities of the people who hold a lot of evidence)?

Do we even have a list of all the people who attended the Las Vegas meet-up? 

Like it or not, the PPT operators were an integral part of this particular scam and there can be no meaningful investigation of Trendon's ponzi without their activities also being examined.

Good point. 

I don't think that PPT operators are going to cooperate without a full understanding of any legal/tax consequences.    And judging from their comments to  each other on these boards I think the really of any cooperation among man y them is probably nil.  I do think that if a representative among  them steps up that could be very helpful in collecting evidence.   


I know some users/victims who have already commented here  are willing to come forward.  They will have to be then one's to bring any civil action.  I am not a lawyer but if the SEC is interested in investigating this and they get some cooperation form the victims, there is a possiblilty to pursue  criminal penalties, which would probably mean no recovery of funds (others claim he has not provable assets anyway) but as least Trendon would the have been brought to justice and I think for the victims and the community as as whole that would allow from some closure.
 
 

[repentance]

I know some users/victims who have already commented here  are willing to come forward.  They will have to be then one's to bring any civil action.  I am not a lawyer but if the SEC is interested in investigating this and they get some cooperation form the victims, there is a possiblilty to pursue  criminal penalties, which would probably mean no recovery of funds (others claim he has not provable assets anyway) but as least Trendon would the have been brought to justice and I think for the victims and the community as as whole that would allow from some closure.

Victims pursuing civil action on their own is likely to be an expensive and futile exercise.  The SEC has the power to litigate this on behalf of the victims, but you can't recover assets you can't locate.  If they have sufficient evidence of his activities then they can use that as leverage to try to persuade him to agree to give back any remaining funds (this would likely be done via someone similar to a liquidator, so there probably wouldn't be much left after their fees were paid). 

The bar for criminal prosecution is significantly higher and it appears to be the Office of the US Attorney which prosecutes ponzis.  Getting in touch with the US Attorney for Trendon's district might not be a bad idea.  Again, how far this goes will depend on hard evidence but it's not going to hurt to have Trendon on the radars of as many investigators as possible.

While the SEC operates at federal level, Trendon has likely committed multiple offences at state level too.  I have no idea who the relevant state authorities would be in relation to investment fraud/ponzis but it might be worth checking that out.  It could be a fall-back position if the SEC investigation ends up going nowhere.

[BCB]

Repentance.

Thanks for the info.  There is a lot of internet lawyering going on in other threads. The  legalities of this can can be speculated there.

Let's try to keep this thread to facts that we know are true.

Unless there is a securities lawyer trolling here would would like to advise us.  I think we should keep this to a very specific validated information gathering exercise.

Then if the SEC really is or decides to get involved we could then provide more facts about the legalities of any case or suit  they may bring as appropriate.


Thanks.

[SebastianJu]

I doubt that trenton only has 10% of the money left. I mean where should it be gone till now? If he would be smart he would have exchanged it so that its untraceable. As far as i know he already did this while btcst was running. So the traces cant be followed because most of the money changed owner and got back to him through other person. Not possible to roll that back.

But then... the money must be still there. I mean he cant possibly have destroyed the money for girls, cars and so on because that would call the tax-cops to his house. So the money is somewhere invested, parked or something. Probably not possible to get it without his help. Or at least not much.

So in my opinion the only chance to get most back is, when there are evidence that this person has taken so and so much money. And only when he is judged by the court to pay it back it might be possible that he pays it back. Because he has to pay that amount anyway.

He probably wont do this but on the other hand wouldnt be able to use this money. I mean when he starts using it someone will stay at the side and say "You owe me money" and showing the court decision. So he cant. At the end he only would have the choice to pay everything back, what he wont do. Or to make a deal to pay back a part. Only then he would be able to gain something from his scam. I mean at the moment he is a poor guy as everyone because it doesnt matter that he has money when he cant use it.

So i think the end will be a deal. Any wrong thought?

OP update your OP to replace pirateat40  with Trendon Shavers

I changed to:

Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40]

in case someone doesnt know who that person is. I wouldnt know if i didnt read the thread. Let me know if somethings wrong with that.

I am looking for a few things, hopefully BY DONATION if anyone is so inclined, for trendonshavers.com (the FINAL online DOC Repo for pirateat40).

- Logo(s).
- Banners (all shapes, for promos/link sharing)
- Anything you would like to contribute.

The plan is to keep the site online indefinitely. Contributors will get free link exchange privileges for promoting their own business(es) if desired.

Hm... as far as i read i think that would be a website he will visit regularly because he is the star there. Do you really want to build it pretty and all? I mean fame doesnt have to be in a good way... some people do crime only to get famous. So i suggest to keep it simple so he wont feel happy with the website.

[BrightAnarchist]

Okay, I recreated a place to store all our junk:

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B6JGQZNTnC2geDRuREM2bE8zQlU/edit

[BCB]

Thanks BrightAnarchist.

What would be GREAT is if everyone could cull this stuff and all you come across relevent information please post here.

Again we are looking for verified facts.

Name and addresses of business associates.
Past crimes
telephone numbers
email addresses

Anything that can put authorities in touch with Trendon and his  past and present circle of associates.



AGAIN THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT A DEBT AND/OR TO BRING TRENDON SHAVERS TO JUSTICE.  AT NO TIME DOES ANY ONE INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT CONDONE OR APPROVE OF ANY VIOLENT OR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AGAINST TRENDON SHAVERS, HIS FAMILY OR ANY KNOW OR ALLEGED ASSOCIATES.

[BCB]

Also if someone could do some blockchain analysis.

It has been stated on these boards previous that addresses assumed to belong to trendon shavers are acutally silk road addresses.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Here's some more information that can be gleaned from the first page of this thread for post #2 of this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108932.0

Also an image:



And the following HYIP went asea the exact same time Pirate set sail: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102003.msg1182326#msg1182326



Hope some of this info is useful.

~Bruno K~

[Raize]

Also if someone could do some blockchain analysis.

It has been stated on these boards previous that addresses assumed to belong to trendon shavers are acutally silk road addresses.

I'll go ahead and publicly verify the following:
Pirateat40 forum post detailing Dropbox link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45294.0
https://i.imgur.com/zZuUA.png (In browser)

Image itself:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9280474/6970.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AeGLy.jpg (In browser)

Search on Dropbox account number:
Query: "dl.dropbox.com/u/9280474"
http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/1732246-post9.html
https://i.imgur.com/ywNMm.png (In browser)

Pirateat40 using "Dr. Tech" in IRC:
http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2011/12/24/3
(This link will also be referred to below regarding "rg")

Context of chat:
02:42   pirateat40   who wants to see 3.70 tonight?
02:42   rg   dr trendon?
02:42   rg   he wants to see it
02:42   pirateat40   woot
02:42   Coolty   Right, well, I don't read this channel 24/7 so I have no idea what you were talking about
02:43   rg   well
02:43   rg   thats why i just told you
02:43   rg   cock suck
02:43   Coolty   Who is "they"
02:43   rg   pirateat40 and BTC_Bear
02:43   Coolty   Oh okay
02:43   pirateat40   rg, i think his name is Dr. Tech
02:43   pirateat40   not sure

EDIT: For more on this, I've provided updates later in this thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.msg1402261#msg1402261

Another IRC Log where you can see him using a Bitcoin address:
http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2011/11/22

18:21    pirateat40   Donate! Starting right now and until the next block I will be watching the Bitcoin-Otc donation address at 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe. For every donation over .25 I will and pay an additional .10. Nanotube, no cheating! GO!
18:22   nanotube   vragnaroda: ic. seems dict and wict are in agreement today, then
18:22   nanotube   pirateat40: O_O
18:22   vragnaroda   Gee, that doesn't seem gamable.
18:22   mircea_popescu   you will and what pirate ?
18:22   copumpkin   rg: sure, just come to fenway
18:22   BTC_Bear   nano, clone the .wa module for gribble... it super good
18:23   nanotube   pirateat40: but also i'm glad you have already thought of my incentive to donate to myself haha
18:23   vragnaroda   nanotube: It can also look stuff up on wolframalpha
18:23   gigavps   pirateat40: you better check that address
18:23   pirateat40   for every donation over .25 i will make a donation of .10

Blockchain donation:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2082663/ce21749db8b11cb05a65b6e24d7d3b1ad93f018e8e461a5b759a6d3c0f15d461

18:26    pirateat40   Time!
18:26   BARBARlAN   maybe it doesnt work that way
18:26   mircea_popescu   you can just query it barbarian
18:26   nanotube   pirateat40: let me guess, 0 donations?
18:26   BARBARlAN   .wa second biggest city china
18:26   vragnaroda   BARBARlAN: It's true: it doesn't work in a way that you can have it do things in a channel it's not in.
18:26   mircea_popescu   say, did that new guy, mr truffle or what was it ever manage to get gpg going ?
18:26   pirateat40   nanotube, one 1
18:26   BARBARlAN   oh lol
18:27   pirateat40   .78825567
18:27   BARBARlAN   *facepalm*
18:27   pirateat40   you guys all suck!
18:27   nanotube   pirateat40: ooo, more than i thought

Later:
18:28    pirateat40   To: Bitcoin-OTC 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
18:28    pirateat40   Net amount: -0.88875567 BTC
18:28   rg   so much coffee today
18:29   cocktopus   webchat ftl
18:29   nanotube   pirateat40: wa, you took coins out of the otc address? O_O
18:29   pirateat40   yes!
18:29   pirateat40   nom nom nom

Transaction he made based on the "Net amount" listed above:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/2082661/b7e9f5f46f0f17c90adbdd787d100d7009cb74391ae8639553b9bed1f18a8299

Address he owns:
http://blockchain.info/address/1EJ88jYPA9HnGwr1JBJfrRUP3Mnp9PVgp9

James 'rg' Edward referred above to a "trendon" in the IRC chat. He had an IPO for BitVPS:
http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.BVPS

Given his early interactions and knowledge of his name, I have a feeling he has full contact information as well as information that may shed light on what other VPS servers are owned.