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February 15, 2013, 12:16:35 AM
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How does one come upon info like this? Does no one care about this info? Come on people.

It's not that people don't care about the information, it's about having a way to make the information useful.  

Where there's a will there's a way.

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February 15, 2013, 12:20:34 AM
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How does one come upon info like this? Does no one care about this info? Come on people.

It's not that people don't care about the information, it's about having a way to make the information useful.  

Where there's a will there's a way.

Well you stand to gain thousands of dollars (at least) if you recover the funds. So, now I have given you a will, the way is your job right?
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February 15, 2013, 01:34:48 AM
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How does one come upon info like this? Does no one care about this info? Come on people.

It's not that people don't care about the information, it's about having a way to make the information useful.  

Where there's a will there's a way.

Well you stand to gain thousands of dollars (at least) if you recover the funds. So, now I have given you a will, the way is your job right?

If any funds are recovered how would they possibly know who is entitled to any of it without a database of some sort ?

See the GLBSE debacle.

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February 15, 2013, 01:46:25 AM
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If any funds are recovered how would they possibly know who is entitled to any of it without a database of some sort ?

See the GLBSE debacle.

There's no way to know.  People may be able to prove that they gave funds to the PPT operators but proving that those funds were handed on to pirate and that he didn't return them to the PPT operators is a different ball-game.

There's every chance that the funds are beyond recovery and the best people can hope for is criminal prosecution of Trendon Shavers.  While the SEC won't reveal the progress of their investigation, it might be worth checking whether it's still active or not.  Perhaps someone who's previously spoken with them could do that.

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February 15, 2013, 02:00:20 AM
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If any funds are recovered how would they possibly know who is entitled to any of it without a database of some sort ?

See the GLBSE debacle.

There's no way to know.  People may be able to prove that they gave funds to the PPT operators but proving that those funds were handed on to pirate and that he didn't return them to the PPT operators is a different ball-game.

There's every chance that the funds are beyond recovery and the best people can hope for is criminal prosecution of Trendon Shavers.  While the SEC won't reveal the progress of their investigation, it might be worth checking whether it's still active or not.  Perhaps someone who's previously spoken with them could do that.

That would be ideal, but the problem is that the SEC won't talk at all about what's going on. It's policy.
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February 15, 2013, 02:09:06 AM
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If any funds are recovered how would they possibly know who is entitled to any of it without a database of some sort ?

See the GLBSE debacle.

There's no way to know.  People may be able to prove that they gave funds to the PPT operators but proving that those funds were handed on to pirate and that he didn't return them to the PPT operators is a different ball-game.

There's every chance that the funds are beyond recovery and the best people can hope for is criminal prosecution of Trendon Shavers.  While the SEC won't reveal the progress of their investigation, it might be worth checking whether it's still active or not.  Perhaps someone who's previously spoken with them could do that.

I wasn't a passthrough. Pirate sent me a 'permanent deposit address' which anyone can look up on blockchain.info and see the amount of coins that I, personally, sent directly to him.

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February 15, 2013, 02:18:07 AM
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That would be ideal, but the problem is that the SEC won't talk at all about what's going on. It's policy.

I know that they won't talk about the specifics, but they previously acknowledged the existence of an investigation and even acknowledged that it was problematic due to people who were directly affected being unwilling to come forward.  It's a long-shot, but they might be willing to confirm whether or not the investigation is still active.

The Texas Securities people remain an option if the SEC investigation has stalled, as do the agencies responsible for investigating computer fraud in general rather than securities violations in particular.  Maybe people hung their hopes on the SEC investigation and stopped filing complaints with other agencies who may also have some jurisdiction.  I know there's a host of different agencies in the US which investigate computer-related crime - maybe it's time to complain to every single one of them.  Hell, maybe it's time for someone to contact their Congress-critter.  I presume people have already reported him to the IRS.


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February 15, 2013, 02:38:03 AM
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I presume people have already reported him to the IRS.

Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I really doubt anyone reported him at all. I also haven't seen conclusive proof of any serious law inforcement investigations or lawsuits. If I put myself in Pirate's shoes, I would do exactly what he did: try to stall all repayments as long as possible with all kinds of excuses, and then just wait what happens. Two twings can possibily happen: or people slowly forget about it and I just became a millionaire, or an enormous shitstorm breaks loose, and people track me down. But as soon as they come knocking on my doorstep, I quickly pay all BTC I have left back, and all will be fine.

I think the first thing happened: within a month nobody talked about Pirate anymore, and the worst thing what happened to him was that one forum-member (I think it was BCB) called his dad, and another forum-member placing some pictures of him online.

Now if I had to choose between a million dollar, or my dad receiving a couple of weird phonecalls, I would not feel enough pressure to give up my newly made fortune, and appearantly he doesn't either.
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February 15, 2013, 02:54:24 AM
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Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I really doubt anyone reported him at all. I also haven't seen conclusive proof of any serious law inforcement investigations or lawsuits.

I doubt he's too worried about lawsuits.  Even if someone fronted the money to sue him and they got a default judgement because he didn't respond, you still have the problem of enforcement - you can't seize assets you can't identify.  Law enforcement has broader powers but presumed proceeds of crime aren't necessarily returned to victims.

Tax violations and money laundering would probably get the attention of the authorities if the aim is simply to see him punished rather than to try to recover funds.

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February 15, 2013, 01:24:39 PM
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There's no way to know.  People may be able to prove that they gave funds to the PPT operators but proving that those funds were handed on to pirate and that he didn't return them to the PPT operators is a different ball-game.
PPT operators could help if they wanted. I admit they don't have much of a reason to, since they didn't really make losses from passing the funds along and were quick to drop all this. All I'm left with is a PM with the deposit address given to me, and a bunch of screenshots I made of my Bitcoinmax account before payb.tc/E&G lost interest in all this. He did not even bother to confirm a PM in which I listed my account statistics.
If a PPT did not forward the funds a whole new can of worms will be opened.

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February 15, 2013, 01:32:25 PM
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Regardless of whether or not the PPT's were complicit in Trendon Shavor's scheme, there were essentially "feeder funds" for an illegal bitcoin securities fraud and would probably be implicated as such in any civil or criminal prosecution.  So clearly there it no incentive for them to participate. 
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February 15, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
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Hey everyone. I decided give you guys a freebie, courtesy of thecollectorsdomain.com ($10/mo VIP membership = 1 free investigative report and further discounts, plus informative articles on debt collection and investigation. See - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866.0
This is for educational purposes only. I do not advocate this information be used for violence or any unlawful purposes.

TRENDON T SHAVERS

Date of Birth: 09/21/1982

A few of his emails:
 tshavers@buscog.com
 tshavers@tlpoffice.com
 tshavers@gmail.com
 shvers@gbm.net

Possible Numbers: (I verified one of these a week ago, It's either the first or second one)
(214) 856-4386
(469) 964-7666
(972) 665-1904
(972) 540-7666
(573) 873-6366

SSN: 461-69-XXXX issued in TEXAS  (I won't put the last 4 here)

Bankruptcies: No
Liens: No
Judgments Yes
Properties: Yes
Corporate Affiliations: No
Criminal/Traffic: Yes

Crime Details - 08/26/2002 - MIDLAND, TX
OffenseDescription1: THEFT >=$20<$500 BY CHECK

Possible Employers (2 Found) (I don't believe these are current, but haven't checked)
Business Name: BUSINESS COGNITION   Phone: (573) 873-6366
Business Name: TLP   Phone: (972) 665-1905

Address: 2305 S CUSTER RD APT 1902, MCKINNEY, TX 75070-6223 (COLLIN COUNTY)

Relatives Address: 608 BROAD LEAF LN, MCKINNEY TX 75070-5152 (COLLIN COUNTY)
Owners: THEODORE SHAVERS & ROBERTA SHAVERS
Possible Numbers: (214) 856-4386  &  (972) 540-7666   (didn't check these)

DMV License Information -
TRENDON T SHAVERS
2305 S CUSTER RD APT 1507, MCKINNEY, TX 75070-6222 (COLLIN COUNTY)
DL Number: 19295421
Issuing State: TX
Original Issue Date: 07/05/2011
Date of Birth: 09/21/1982

Judgments (1 Found)  (since the judgment amt is $0, this is it was paid within 30 days, so the judgment was recorded, the amt was not).
TRENDON SHAVERS
Address: 2305 S CUSTER RD APT 1507, MCKINNEY, TX 75070-6222 (Collin COUNTY)
Filing County: COLLI
Filing Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Plaintiff: REGENCY AT STONEBRIDGE-RANCH
Court Case Number: EV1100637
Total Judgment Amount: $0
Court: COLLIN JP CT 4-1 - FRISCO(TXCOIM5)
Court Address: P O BOX 1496, FRISCO, TX 75034 (Collin COUNTY)
Court Phone: (972) 731-7300
Filing Date: 04/11/2011

Property Information:
2812 GLEN HOLLOW DR, MCKINNEY, TX 75070-4267 (COLLIN COUNTY)
APN: R-3059-00A-0200-1
APN Sequence Number: 001
Account Number: 2017341
Date Subject First Seen as Owner: 03/13/2007
Date Subject Last Seen as Owner: 07/06/2010
Subdivision Name: MEADOW GLEN AT ELDORADO
Legal Description: MEADOW GLEN AT ELDORADO (CMC), BLK A, LOT 20
Building Square Feet: 2,310
Living Square Feet: 1,905
Land Square Feet: 7,374
Year Built: 1994

Tax Year: 2011
Tax Amount: $3,888.31
Assessed Year: 2011
Assessed Value: $158,590
Sale Date: 04/12/2011
Sale Amount: $62,500
Document Number: 382170
Total Value: $158,590
Land Value: $45,000
Improvement Value: $113,590
Bedrooms: 3 Baths: 2

Current Vehicle Information (2 Found)
2006 FORD -Series: AMARILLO~HARLEY DAVIDSON~ - Model: F350SD
VIN: 1FTWW31P36ED34573
Body Style: CREW CAB 4 Door
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car
Weight: 6586 - 6730 lbs
Length: 245.6 - 261.8"
Color: Unknown
Most Current Tag #: TX 88YJF9
Drive Type: 4WD
Fuel: DIESEL 29 - 38
Gallon Engine: 6.0L V8 TURBO
Title Holders TRENDON SHAVERS
2305 S CUSTER RD APT 1507, MCKINNEY, TX 75070
Lien Holders: None Found
Lessors: None Found

2007 BMW -Series: BASE - Model: M5
VIN: WBSNB93567CX07102
Body Style: SEDAN 4 Door 5P
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car
Weight: 4012 lbs
Length: 191.5"
Color: Unknown Most
Current Tag #: TX DM6Z571
Drive Type: RWD
Fuel: GAS 18.5
Gallon Engine: 5.0L V10 NATURALLY ASPIRATED
Lien Holders: JPMORGAN CHASE BANK N. A PO BOX 901098, FORT WORTH, TX 76101-2098 (TARRANT COUNTY)
Lessors: None Found

FL Accidents (None Found)
US Business Affiliations (None Found)
UCC Filings (None Found)
US Corporate Affiliations (None Found)
Aircraft Records (None Found)
Pilot Licenses (None Found)
Voter Registrations (None Found)
Hunting Permits (None Found)
Weapon Permits (None Found)

Relatives (I won't post their numbers here):
- TED SHAVERS 02/13/1954 Age: 58
- EARLENE SHAVERS 11/29/1934 Age: 77
- JENNIFER JOANN SHAVERS 11/19/1983 Age: 29
- BRETT JEREMY SHAVERS 06/03/1980 Age: 32
- RYLAN D SHAVERS 02/10/1984 Age: 28
- ROBERTA ANN SHAVERS 03/05/1962 Age: 50
- ASHLEY DENISE SHAVERS 05/22/1978 Age: 34

Anyway, I hope this helps everyone.

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February 16, 2013, 04:17:58 AM
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Confirms that the BMW wasn't owned outright, which is good to know for sure.  Looks like he hasn't changed his address with the DMV.

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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February 18, 2013, 07:18:24 AM
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2007 BMW -Series: BASE - Model: M5
VIN: WBSNB93567CX07102
Body Style: SEDAN 4 Door 5P
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car
Weight: 4012 lbs
Length: 191.5"
Color: Unknown Most
Current Tag #: TX DM6Z571
Drive Type: RWD
Fuel: GAS 18.5
Gallon Engine: 5.0L V10 NATURALLY ASPIRATED
Lien Holders: JPMORGAN CHASE BANK N. A PO BOX 901098, FORT WORTH, TX 76101-2098 (TARRANT COUNTY)
Lessors: None Found
Color is silver.  http://www.autosofdallas.com/web/vehicle_photos/2755100/

Confirms that the BMW wasn't owned outright, which is good to know for sure.  Looks like he hasn't changed his address with the DMV.
Wow, pirateat40 couldn't even afford to buy a $35k car with cash.  Maybe he hasn't sold the proceeds of BS&T for USD due to fear of attracting attention?

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February 18, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
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So what's going to happen now that you have all his information?
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February 18, 2013, 09:58:50 AM
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Wow, pirateat40 couldn't even afford to buy a $35k car with cash.  Maybe he hasn't sold the proceeds of BS&T for USD due to fear of attracting attention?

Perhaps more interestingly, he would have had to provide evidence of income to secure the finance.

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February 18, 2013, 04:09:17 PM
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Color is silver. 

It was painted back to white before the sale.
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February 25, 2013, 11:45:25 PM
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can dig up all the information you want about him nothing is gonna happen. and that sec fucker never mailed me back either. what a joke.


Thank you for reaching out to us.  Before we can speak, I have to make sure there are no legal hurdles on my end.  (There are different rules for each country.)  The individuals with whom I need to consult are on vacation this week, but I am sure I will be in touch shortly after the new year.
 
I hope the holiday season is finding you well.
 
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February 26, 2013, 01:22:53 AM
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where are you located?

This may also indicate the case is no longer active.
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February 26, 2013, 04:46:54 AM
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Inb4 Pirate is Philip Moustakis

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