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Author Topic: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1]  (Read 155265 times)
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January 16, 2013, 06:19:28 AM
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Said the man that invested into the Chinese company.

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January 16, 2013, 06:21:28 AM
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http://translate.google.com/#auto/en/%E6%B6%88%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E7%9C%9F%E7%A9%BA%0A%E6%81%B0%E5%A6%82%E9%BB%8E%E6%98%8E%E5%89%8D%E7%9A%84%E9%BB%91%E6%9A%97%0A%E5%8F%88%E4%BC%BC%E4%BB%A4%E4%BA%BA%E7%AA%92%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E9%9D%99%E5%AF%82

... easy enough to understand what it means.

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January 16, 2013, 06:41:53 AM
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I love google translate, i can totally hit on a chinese girl with that.
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January 16, 2013, 07:34:04 AM
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They say you really know a language well if you can get a girl who speaks that language to kiss you.

Did it work? Yeah, didn't think so...  Roll Eyes
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January 16, 2013, 10:59:19 AM
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I am glad Avalon helping me to dance on Josh bones.

But I should warn all of you about Avalon itself.

No demo, no tests, no bitcoin hashrate increase so far. Only pics with unnamed chips. And 5 days to delivery.

Lets see, lets see...

Hey guys. 4 days left! The question is "4 days left for what?" Say somethething, show something?
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January 16, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
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I like google translate coz it allows me to easily understand most things written in most languages.
I only know a small amount of about half a dozen languages, so being able to translate anything at all with the click of a button is great IMO.

For someone as racist as you, that may not be ideal. You probably prefer your ignorance.

For me, it's easy to understand most languages, and for asian languages like Korean, Chinese and Japanese, where it's not as good as others, it gives enough information to usually understand a lot of it also.

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January 16, 2013, 12:06:21 PM
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I am glad Avalon helping me to dance on Josh bones.

But I should warn all of you about Avalon itself.

No demo, no tests, no bitcoin hashrate increase so far. Only pics with unnamed chips. And 5 days to delivery.

Lets see, lets see...

Hey guys. 4 days left! The question is "4 days left for what?" Say somethething, show something?

From what I understand, you need to kiss them first.

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January 16, 2013, 01:06:25 PM
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Bitsyncom, any sign of progress now?

Chips should be sliced by now and should have gone through functional testing...in fact, the assembled units should be nearing completion (I would expect at least 1 day on a testnet for each finished unit).

They may be keeping us in the dark for some reason.
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January 16, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
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Excellent work team Avalon,

Congratulations because the way it looks you will be the first team to release an ASIC based mining product.

3 Days away and I want you to know we are all happy and excited for you!


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January 16, 2013, 04:15:22 PM
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Yup. Very good product!

Blocks avg. per hour: 4.92
Difficulty:   3,249,550
Next Difficulty: in 947 blocks 3,035,068
Network Hashrate: 21.73 Terahashs/s
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January 16, 2013, 04:39:22 PM
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Yup. Very good product!

Blocks avg. per hour: 4.92
Difficulty:   3,249,550
Next Difficulty: in 947 blocks 3,035,068
Network Hashrate: 21.73 Terahashs/s

I was looking at this set of graphs: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/index.html

and it seems like there was a bit of a spike just a little while ago which could have been testing.  Of course, it could be other things as well even testing by BFL (cough, cough) - and there is the DISTINCT possibility i am misinterpreting the graphs.
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January 16, 2013, 04:43:52 PM
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Yup. Very good product!

Blocks avg. per hour: 4.92
Difficulty:   3,249,550
Next Difficulty: in 947 blocks 3,035,068
Network Hashrate: 21.73 Terahashs/s

I was looking at this set of graphs: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/index.html

and it seems like there was a bit of a spike just a little while ago which could have been testing.  Of course, it could be other things as well even testing by BFL (cough, cough) - and there is the DISTINCT possibility i am misinterpreting the graphs.
BFL won't be testing anything until February based on their timeline.
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January 16, 2013, 05:45:21 PM
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BFL won't be testing anything until February based on their timeline.

I am quite sure you are correct - i was just saying it might imply Avalon HAS done some testing of assembled units already..  Of course ALL of this conjecture about ASICs is a crap shoot until someone actually receives a finished product.

Someone should open a bitcoin betting site that allows betting on who releases first and how close to original specs they were..   just to REALLY beat a dead horse..
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January 16, 2013, 05:47:50 PM
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 just to REALLY beat a dead horse..
I'm pretty sure all that is left is an indent in the ground.  Maybe a few pieces of bone.
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January 16, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
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from what I remember all teams have said they will NOT test on any pools, bitcoin network, and avalon not even on the testnets, etc.

you won't be able to track them until customers are hashing

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January 16, 2013, 06:04:24 PM
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from what I remember all teams have said they will NOT test on any pools, bitcoin network, and avalon not even on the testnets, etc.

you won't be able to track them until customers are hashing
Just explain me at least one reason not to do that [having chips in hands].
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January 16, 2013, 06:55:40 PM
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Overhead is a good reason not to do it. They really don't care about mining, they just want to sell cards. They don't want to configure a pool, or make it look like they favor one pool over another. I mean, there's plenty of reasons to do so (proof, free coin, etc.), but the reasons not to are mostly ethical in nature. The reasons to do so run the risk of backlash.
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January 16, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
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from what I remember all teams have said they will NOT test on any pools, bitcoin network, and avalon not even on the testnets, etc.

you won't be able to track them until customers are hashing
Just explain me at least one reason not to do that [having chips in hands].

As I understand things, the theory goes that they would jack up the difficulty and burn their customers (who are chomping at the bit to do the same thing.)  And/or damage Bitcoin generally by some non-nondescript means.  Neither has ever made much sense to me.

If I were buying early ASIC, I'd specifically request that my units were burnt in for at least a week ON the Bitcoin network.  If they wanted to be good guys they are welcome to split any profits with me, but I wouldn't request it.

The whole 'we will not mine' thing seems like one of those unimportant things which get moderately ignorant people all worked up and which vendors/scammers/re-sellers/whatever just throw up their hands over and state silly (but mostly harmless) policies because of just for PR reasons.


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January 16, 2013, 07:00:10 PM
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Hehe... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136880

They can get 2000+ coins daily in their blocks. In any point in World. This is $28000 daily income. Not being responsible for breaked customers. Did they sign contract with you?

So will they resist this temptation?
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January 16, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
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think would you really want to start a trend of ASIC producing companies using their product and reaping the rewards first; increasing the difficulty while holding funds deposited by awaiting customers on a product that was delayed?

That is not good publicity and would NOT be good for bitcoin

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