2025 NBA Season

[Finestream]

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

[Oasisman]

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.

When Durant will be back healthy next season, I'll say its not gonna be his team anymore. Durant most likely to take the spotlight away from Irving. If he (Irving) have the same kind of attitude and mentality they will probably not gonna work out again.
Kyrie cannot carry a team and thats a fact, he needs another superstar that are flexible enough to get along with his style of game. Yes, he's a very good individual athlete, but not as a good team leader.

[Kasabus]

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.

When Durant will be back healthy next season, I'll say its not gonna be his team anymore. Durant most likely to take the spotlight away from Irving. If he (Irving) have the same kind of attitude and mentality they will probably not gonna work out again.
Kyrie cannot carry a team and thats a fact, he needs another superstar that are flexible enough to get along with his style of game. Yes, he's a very good individual athlete, but not as a good team leader.

Let us not talk about who will be the stars of the team because we all know those who are making a good salary are the stars.
Durant has proven his worth when he played with the Warriors, in terms of skills and consistency, I think he is the best in the NBA, as I also believe if he was not injured last season, the warriors could easily bet the Raptors even if Leonard is playing awesome basketball that time.

[sana54210]

How could Irving putting up 50 doesn't matter? I mean dude balled out and gave all he has in that game which shows he is willing to work hard for Nets, he wasn't like that in Celtics for example which means Nets have a really bright future, even if Durant doesn't play this year eventually he will play next year and when Durant comes back they will have Irving plus Durant on Nets playing with 60-70+ points a game which would mean they would be really rivaling anyone in the east.

There are not that many teams who have that type of talent, sure there are more overall teams like Sixers but nobody has the talent of Irving+Durant levels in east so they will be awesome. What mattered was 50 point game means Irving is willing to play here and give his all which was what fans were worrying about and they got their answer.

[boyptc]

How could Irving putting up 50 doesn't matter?

Because regardless of his performance, they lost the game and that's what others can see while his performance was ignored. We have different standards on what should matter and what's not.

But it is undeniable that Kyrie really did well even without KD.

[Golftech]

How could Irving putting up 50 doesn't matter?

Because regardless of his performance, they lost the game and that's what others can see while his performance was ignored. We have different standards on what should matter and what's not.

But it is undeniable that Kyrie really did well even without KD.

It's undeniable that he have that individual talent as we all see him and know him for that, though without any help coming from he's teammates while KD is not there yet it will be wasted in anyway. Kyrie loves to take the leadership and he will do the best that he can to show it from his team, stepping up is not a problem but it's not a game of 1-2 players but the whole squad needs to bring their best, sharing every position to create spaces.

[Reid]

People seem to forget the Blazers here, they are still in my radar and I know this team will perform well this time as they need to compete since they've been eliminated badly every playoffs.

I dont. Lillard is in his prime now and he is still growing his skills but for now the hype is in both LA.
Once they see the Blazers game then they might shine again and be on the front page of every news including social media.

However the Blazers got a bad start tonight, they struggle at their own home and they can't even capitalize their advantage while Jokic was sitting early in the game due to foul trouble. it's just one game actually and I don't want to overreact, but they need to improve their defense especially in the 4th quarter when it matters a lot.

That is Denver. Which is number 2 last season. Those guys have a lot of chemistry by now and even without 1 of their main players they could still make a win. That is how chemistry works.

Besides, just like you said, it is just the start. They are still warming and we cannot predict the ends just because of 1 game.
Let us just see through what else they can do if they are against other team. Maybe those LA teams should be a good game for them.

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.

When Durant will be back healthy next season, I'll say its not gonna be his team anymore. Durant most likely to take the spotlight away from Irving. If he (Irving) have the same kind of attitude and mentality they will probably not gonna work out again.
Kyrie cannot carry a team and thats a fact, he needs another superstar that are flexible enough to get along with his style of game. Yes, he's a very good individual athlete, but not as a good team leader.

We cannot say that just yet.
He had been under a team which had a leader. (Cavaliers: Lebron)
And then, in Celtics we didnt see him most of the game because of injuries.
If he will be healthy this season then maybe we could see his leadership.

[NJB18]

That 50 point from Kyrie the highest ever for a debutant in NBA history? Earlier, Danny Green was also able to break Abdul-Jabbar's Laker debut dishing in 28 points. All these historic accomplishments were undermined because both lost their respective games. 

I think the NBA is more competitive now than the previous years.

[wheelz1200]

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

So only 3 people in the nba have a good attitude lol.  What about LaMarcus Aldridge, damien lillard, jokic, Horford, karl anthony towns, and on and on.  There are plenty of team guys and people who arent full of themselves.  Kyrie is good period.  Not everyone wins championships..

[Jating]

That 50 point from Kyrie the highest ever for a debutant in NBA history? Earlier, Danny Green was also able to break Abdul-Jabbar's Laker debut dishing in 28 points. All these historic accomplishments were undermined because both lost their respective games. 

I think the NBA is more competitive now than the previous years.

Another record is Hornets rookie, P.J. Washington, sets a record for most 3's, hitting 7 for in a career debut. As far as Irving goes, he is capable of that, we are talking about his leadership skills here. But don't forget that he has that opportunity when he was in Cav's, although someone can argue that during that time, Irving hasn't mature yet.

There's no denying that he has evolved as a player, although we hadn't had the chance to see him becoming a leader in Celtics because of his injuries, but he did try to carry that team, alone. So let's see if a healthy Irving and a come backing KD will be the next big duo and propel them to the Eastern Conference.

[mich]

Top 5 surprises from full slate of NBA openers: Ugly debuts for Kemba Walker, Mike Conley; Thunder look solid
The NBA's busy Wednesday night of season openers was filled with several surprises -- both good and bad

1. Hornets may not be as bad as we all predicted
2. Kemba Walker struggled mightily in first game with Celtics
3. Thunder looked like a playoff team, while Mike Conley whiffs in Jazz debut
4. Drummond, Kennard lift Pistons in Griffin's absence
5. The Kings got torched ... by the Phoenix Suns

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/top-5-surprises-from-full-slate-of-nba-openers-ugly-debuts-for-kemba-walker-mike-conley-thunder-look-solid/

[Ranly123]

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

It's just their first game though, lossing their first game doesn't mean they lose in making it to the finals or in the playoffs. Of course there could be more adjustments as the season goes on. Expect Irving to be back with the vengeance in their next game.

[Finestream]

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

It's just their first game though, lossing their first game doesn't mean they lose in making it to the finals or in the playoffs. Of course there could be more adjustments as the season goes on. Expect Irving to be back with the vengeance in their next game.

I am just disappointed that despite of him making  a good scoring night the team still loss at home.
This scares me when people say that "Irving will be back with vengeance ", I don't like that term, it seems like we are seeing the nets as Irving's team only, I like the nets to be like a team where everyone is effective in their respective role, it doesn't matter if Irving's production will drop as long as his teammates will increase.

[vella85]

I can't believe I lost my parlay with two teams losing by one point each but at least I got my Suns ML and OKC to cover the +9.5 single bets. The only game I like tonight is the Rockets at the ML. I have parlayed this game with a few NHL games for some value.

[harizen]

Why others make it a big deal on Brookly Nets' loss despite Irving's 50 points production? He is the main center of their offense so expect a great number of FGA for this guy.

It's just a one-point game. I will understand frustrations and disappointment if they lose with a big lead behind that big production by Irving. Both teams exchanged leads during the final few minutes until the final buzzer sounds. So overall, they both played good.

Nets losing that game is not because of lack of production of Irving's teammates but Timberwolves did a great performance too. Big production by Towns and some of the clutch shot made by Andrew Wiggins. It's just that during the last possession, Irving loss handles so he made a quick shot for a buzzer-beater.

Nets today are way different compared to Nets back then. They are more improved. Timberwolves is more of a dominant team compare to them but look at the result, Nets gave them a hard time.

[Questat]

I can't believe I lost my parlay with two teams losing by one point each but at least I got my Suns ML and OKC to cover the +9.5 single bets. The only game I like tonight is the Rockets at the ML. I have parlayed this game with a few NHL games for some value.

Anything about betting, I suggest you also make some post in NBA 2019-2020 betting
You can either help with your pick and get some opinion at the same time, I've been following that thread and some bettors posting also.
Going back, Rockets ML is good but I think -2 would give a little boost on the odds, I believe they will cover that if they will win, that's just 2 points.

[wheelz1200]

I can't believe I lost my parlay with two teams losing by one point each but at least I got my Suns ML and OKC to cover the +9.5 single bets. The only game I like tonight is the Rockets at the ML. I have parlayed this game with a few NHL games for some value.

I like detroit tonight by 1.5 at home.  Also I'm gonna ride gs at their home opener.  Either way I'm taking the over in all 3 of these games.  NBA doesnt do defense anymore.  My prediction is there is a record amount of points scored in the nba this year.  I wish there was a prop bet for that, I would take it all day long

[Oasisman]

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.

When Durant will be back healthy next season, I'll say its not gonna be his team anymore. Durant most likely to take the spotlight away from Irving. If he (Irving) have the same kind of attitude and mentality they will probably not gonna work out again.
Kyrie cannot carry a team and thats a fact, he needs another superstar that are flexible enough to get along with his style of game. Yes, he's a very good individual athlete, but not as a good team leader.

Let us not talk about who will be the stars of the team because we all know those who are making a good salary are the stars.

If your remember Rashard Lewis, he was one of the highest paid athlete before even if his not an all star anymore.
Some superstars are even willing to make a paycut just to have a higher chance to win a ring.

Durant has proven his worth when he played with the Warriors, in terms of skills and consistency, I think he is the best in the NBA, as I also believe if he was not injured last season, the warriors could easily bet the Raptors even if Leonard is playing awesome basketball that time.

Agreed! He's even worth more than what's stated in his contract. Raptors won't gonna be a champion if Durant played, and thats a fact!

[bbc.reporter]

@Oasisman. You speculate that the Raptors will not be champion if Kevin Durant was not injured hehehe.

In any case, Warriors versus the Clippers is next. Is the Warriors strong this year? I reckon this GSW team might not challenge for the western conference championship or go far in the playoffs or might not reach the playoffs hehehe.

[Oasisman]

@Oasisman. You speculate that the Raptors will not be champion if Kevin Durant was not injured hehehe.

Yes, Im pretty sure of that, the Warriors seems lost when Durant was out for the rest of the series.

In any case, Warriors versus the Clippers is next. Is the Warriors strong this year? I reckon this GSW team might not challenge for the western conference championship or go far in the playoffs or might not reach the playoffs hehehe.

Im making a consideration for the Warriors to be in the 6th to 8th seed at the end of the season, because they will surely struggle to make it to the Finals again this year, or even the playoffs alone. Some, speculations from sports analyst and ex NBA player like Chris Webber even predicted that the Warriors will miss the playoffs this year.

Im not watching live, but I have monitored the score as of now, Clipps up by 10, 39-29 in the start of the 2nd quarter.
Probably another win for the Clippers.