2025 NBA Season

[OgNasty]

I was really amused about the Memphis - Lakers game last night. Lebron, Westbrook and Davis all were playing in this game but they still lost to Memphis by 108-95. The reason why especially was that Westbrook performed really bad. He was able to score only 9 points in 33 minutes. He got a 3/9 FG made. He missed many shots as he was not in fine feather.

A bad night after a good night. Westbrook seems inconsistent but at least he's trying to catch up. They should win against a handicapped Memphis but lack of fuel to boost their performance. Time to move on and hope for the best next game for the Lakers. A good win for those who bet against them making it worth it to bet o continue betting against them if they are the Favorites.

They are up against Oklahoma City Thunders and Orlando Magic for their next 2 games and it seems they will be tagged again as the Favorite.  

Yeah, after a good win in their previous game, now they've suffered another loss against the Memphis.

Too bad the Lakers are really good at being inconsistent, James missing a 3 that will close the gap in the fourth and you can see the frustration on him after he missed that shot. He even goes early to the locker room without waiting for the actual buzzer. Not a good sign if we see him like this in a losing game.

Agreed, that is absolutely not a good sign and it can easily be said that frustration got him. I think that he would not have been frustrated if we could all say that it was a really good match but no one can say 'good game' after watching that match. Wall can be said is a 'good win' for or the grizzlies. The Lakers really performed below per by their standards. I just follow the odds in this game and it just sucked me.

Lakers are the favorite to win the game, they are -4 actually, but look at the result, Grizz beat them by 13 points, and they only score 98 points which you can tell they can't find their offense. Better luck next time, hopefully they'll adjust, they are still in the top 6 anyway, still would qualify in the playoffs.

The Lakers should be the favorite to win every night with their roster.  In their last loss Anthony Davis played terrible and Dwight Howard still only played 10 minutes despite being one of the leaders in fg% and snagging a few rebounds in that period (the Lakers were outrebounded again).  I used to like Frank Vogel, but it seems like he's just not the man for this job.  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

[Questat]

<<<<  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

I would choose to see a new coach than letting go of Anthony Davis, he proved himself by winning a championship with the Lakers, so he should stay. Besides, it's easier to find a new coach than to look for a good big man, so hopefully, the Lakers will consider this kind of move if they will indeed struggle all throughout the season.

[agustina2]

The Lakers should be the favorite to win every night with their roster.  In their last loss Anthony Davis played terrible and Dwight Howard still only played 10 minutes despite being one of the leaders in fg% and snagging a few rebounds in that period (the Lakers were outrebounded again).  I used to like Frank Vogel, but it seems like he's just not the man for this job.  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

Vogel always put Anthony Davis on 5th where the comfort zone is 4th. Vogel should sometimes shift into not a pure guard lineup. He can put Dwight Howard at 5th instead and AD as PF. LeBron will settle at SF and up to him who will hold the 1st and 2nd position.

Anthony Davis at Center is not effective. Vogel should modify his lineup.

[LogitechMouse]

I used to like Frank Vogel, but it seems like he's just not the man for this job.  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

Just after getting the championship last 2020, the Lakers under Coach Vogel aren't playing the same as they are when they won the championship.
Now they are on a stage where they are having a lot of problems despite having multiple all-star players.

Between trading Davis and finding a new head coach, I think finding a new coach would be a better choice for the team. I think there is no problem with the roster but the problem is the coach. He can't give Howard more minutes even though he is playing very well.

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Anthony Davis at Center is not effective. Vogel should modify his lineup.

This is the reason why the Lakers are always finding another big that can fulfill the center position. Davis aren't comfortable and effective at 5 spot and its obvious that he isn't. The problem with Coach Vogel is he is putting him in 5 where in fact he is more efficient at the 4 spot which is also the reason maybe why they are having a hard time winning.

[ultrloa]

The Lakers should be the favorite to win every night with their roster.  In their last loss Anthony Davis played terrible and Dwight Howard still only played 10 minutes despite being one of the leaders in fg% and snagging a few rebounds in that period (the Lakers were outrebounded again).  I used to like Frank Vogel, but it seems like he's just not the man for this job.  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

Vogel always put Anthony Davis on 5th where the comfort zone is 4th. Vogel should sometimes shift into not a pure guard lineup. He can put Dwight Howard at 5th instead and AD as PF. LeBron will settle at SF and up to him who will hold the 1st and 2nd position.

Anthony Davis at Center is not effective. Vogel should modify his lineup.

Coaching staff should consider this and always check the statistic on where there stars comfortable since if they continue to put AD on 5 then they will have miserable run this season but I think for this reasons they need to change their coach which can able to use their piece correctly since they already have best talents in the league and the only lacking their is how they gonna work it.

[chaser15]

This is the reason why the Lakers are always finding another big that can fulfill the center position. Davis aren't comfortable and effective at 5 spot and its obvious that he isn't. The problem with Coach Vogel is he is putting him in 5 where in fact he is more efficient at the 4 spot which is also the reason maybe why they are having a hard time winning.

Before the NBA season opened, the Lakers have announced that Anthony Davis will be placed in the Center position. It's now several games have passed and it seems the rotation is not effective therefore their head coach should forget the idea already that Davis should act as a Lakers' center. Bring him back to the Power Forward position whether in offense or defense.

But is that really the reason? Anthony Davis can shift anytime to his comfort zone but why he's not doing it? He's on the floor and there's no need to follow the command of his coach every time.

They played 26 games already and Anthony Davis should know already what's the best thing to do.

[wheelz1200]

Yeah that uConn team was sick, nobody could stop him.  Was hoping a return back to msg would reliant it for him.  Season is young and thibs is tactical so there could be another thing at play.  Maybe pumping up the value on another guard.  Kba didn't play bad from the jump it was the last couple games he played where he struggled. Was always a fan hopefully he puts it together.

Kemba has scored an average of 11 points per game this season. So he definitely plays worse than last season. Nevertheless, I think taking him out of the rotation was the wrong decision by the coach. It looks like the Knicks lost 4 out of 6 games after Kemba was out of the rotation, and it's funny because Thibodeau said, "I do what I think is best for the team."

Knicks losing the last 4 out of 6 without kemba has little to do with kemba out of the rotation.  Knicks collectively are playing like trash.  Too erratic and their defense took a serious hit this year.  They were a top defensive team last year, now it's 3s and then transition defense which they are terrible at now.  Big game against Toronto tonight.  Another game Knicks need.  They can't slide too deep in the standings

[dwyane36]

I used to like Frank Vogel, but it seems like he's just not the man for this job.  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

Just after getting the championship last 2020, the Lakers under Coach Vogel aren't playing the same as they are when they won the championship.
Now they are on a stage where they are having a lot of problems despite having multiple all-star players.

Between trading Davis and finding a new head coach, I think finding a new coach would be a better choice for the team. I think there is no problem with the roster but the problem is the coach. He can't give Howard more minutes even though he is playing very well.

I guess the Lakers' management doesn't plan to make significant changes to the team before the end of this season, and they will probably give coach Vogel a chance. However, if the Lakers lose again in the first round of the playoffs, Vogel will most likely be fired next offseason.

[Dave1]

I used to like Frank Vogel, but it seems like he's just not the man for this job.  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

Just after getting the championship last 2020, the Lakers under Coach Vogel aren't playing the same as they are when they won the championship.
Now they are on a stage where they are having a lot of problems despite having multiple all-star players.

Between trading Davis and finding a new head coach, I think finding a new coach would be a better choice for the team. I think there is no problem with the roster but the problem is the coach. He can't give Howard more minutes even though he is playing very well.

I guess the Lakers' management doesn't plan to make significant changes to the team before the end of this season, and they will probably give coach Vogel a chance. However, if the Lakers lose again in the first round of the playoffs, Vogel will most likely be fired next offseason.

There's a lot of criticism coming now, from the front office to coach Vogel to even AD for playing poorly. But still boils down to Lebron for me, he is the glue and the alpha still so he needs to talk to his boys so that they can iron things out.

They are so inconsistent that is it better to get against them right now as they usually don't cover the spread or even lost the game by a wide margin to even a below than .500 team.

[el kaka22]

Of course people will be harsh towards Lakers, there are two reasons for this. One is the fact that they have the most championships in the history of the league which makes them not really loved, even when they turned into a horrible stage after 2010 and had a very bad 10 years, they still ended up with a championship right after thanks to Lebron and AD and the bubble. So other teams fans hating Lakers is not a new thing, they end up getting at least one championship every decade, and that sometimes feels a bit difficult for other teams to care for Lakers.

Secondly they built a team with Westbrook-Lebron-AD, and that trio is an amazing one, definitely high up there with any other team, and their other players are not that bad neither, so in theory they should be winning most of their games, maybe not at the top spot but at least in fourth seed at the very worst case, they are playing very badly compared to the roster they have.

[rhomelmabini]

<<<<  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

I would choose to see a new coach than letting go of Anthony Davis, he proved himself by winning a championship with the Lakers, so he should stay. Besides, it's easier to find a new coach than to look for a good big man, so hopefully, the Lakers will consider this kind of move if they will indeed struggle all throughout the season.

I think AD shouldn't be sacrificed in this Lakers's show we're seeing I mean he definitely has the best help from the team in this season. I think it isn't changing something but should be learning something from their recent games, rotations and role players, something like that.

[Reid]

Of course people will be harsh towards Lakers, there are two reasons for this. One is the fact that they have the most championships in the history of the league which makes them not really loved, even when they turned into a horrible stage after 2010 and had a very bad 10 years, they still ended up with a championship right after thanks to Lebron and AD and the bubble. So other teams fans hating Lakers is not a new thing, they end up getting at least one championship every decade, and that sometimes feels a bit difficult for other teams to care for Lakers.

Secondly they built a team with Westbrook-Lebron-AD, and that trio is an amazing one, definitely high up there with any other team, and their other players are not that bad neither, so in theory they should be winning most of their games, maybe not at the top spot but at least in fourth seed at the very worst case, they are playing very badly compared to the roster they have.

Good point. I can still remember the Warriors also ended up being hated by a lot of fans because of their championship history. I even asked a friend why he was supporting Portland Trail Blazers at that time while he is not even a fan of them. He said "I just want to see the Warriors defeated. That's all."
A usual reaction of people when they see someone reaching the top. Pull them down!
They even said its the Warriors fault to be hated for taking Durant as they were already a star studded team which we all know is not true. It's just that their plays are better than other teams.

[TravelMug]

<<<<  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

I would choose to see a new coach than letting go of Anthony Davis, he proved himself by winning a championship with the Lakers, so he should stay. Besides, it's easier to find a new coach than to look for a good big man, so hopefully, the Lakers will consider this kind of move if they will indeed struggle all throughout the season.

I think AD shouldn't be sacrificed in this Lakers's show we're seeing I mean he definitely has the best help from the team in this season. I think it isn't changing something but should be learning something from their recent games, rotations and role players, something like that.

Yeah, I agree, I don't think that AD is the problem here, the factor is that there are too many superstars in their lineup that it's hard to give them time in the floor. And then you have the young guys like THT that needed exposure as well because they might contribute big.

I think that's the big issue, they took too many veterans and experience players. And they still have Ariza and Bazemore and Nunn and even Rondo not playing.

[OgNasty]

<<<<  I'm sure he's a brilliant coach, but for whatever reason his style of play does not seem to mesh well with the Lakers roster and I think it's time to either say goodbye to the head coach, or trade Anthony Davis.

I would choose to see a new coach than letting go of Anthony Davis, he proved himself by winning a championship with the Lakers, so he should stay. Besides, it's easier to find a new coach than to look for a good big man, so hopefully, the Lakers will consider this kind of move if they will indeed struggle all throughout the season.

I think AD shouldn't be sacrificed in this Lakers's show we're seeing I mean he definitely has the best help from the team in this season. I think it isn't changing something but should be learning something from their recent games, rotations and role players, something like that.

Yeah, I agree, I don't think that AD is the problem here, the factor is that there are too many superstars in their lineup that it's hard to give them time in the floor. And then you have the young guys like THT that needed exposure as well because they might contribute big.

I think that's the big issue, they took too many veterans and experience players. And they still have Ariza and Bazemore and Nunn and even Rondo not playing.

Anthony Davis out tonight and they finally let Dwight get the start and a few minutes… They win by 21. Biggest win of the year? Maybe. Normally you would think with their star player out and the team struggling they wouldn’t be getting their biggest win (or close to) of the season. I think AD is overrated, not playing up to expectations, and a constant injury concern. The Lakers really need to be considering what they can get for him. Resigning him to a post-LeBron contract or losing him to free agency will doom the team for years.

[timerland]

Anthony Davis out tonight and they finally let Dwight get the start and a few minutes… They win by 21. Biggest win of the year? Maybe. Normally you would think with their star player out and the team struggling they wouldn’t be getting their biggest win (or close to) of the season. I think AD is overrated, not playing up to expectations, and a constant injury concern. The Lakers really need to be considering what they can get for him. Resigning him to a post-LeBron contract or losing him to free agency will doom the team for years.

Completely agree, and Charles Barkley put this in a very straightforward way for us as well.

I think that AD is very injury-prone and even when playing actually is incredibly inefficient. Even though he's got a good looking jumpshot he faces up way too much and plays in the midpost more than he should.

He needs to dominate down low or move completely outside of the 3 point line, not float in between honestly.

[chaser15]

Secondly they built a team with Westbrook-Lebron-AD, and that trio is an amazing one, definitely high up there with any other team, and their other players are not that bad neither, so in theory they should be winning most of their games, maybe not at the top spot but at least in fourth seed at the very worst case, they are playing very badly compared to the roster they have.

You have a point. It's not that the Lakers should be on the number 1 in standings but at least close to it like 3rd or 4th. Compare to other teams, the trio of WB, LBJ, and AD is still the best compared to other teams even LBJ is aging. The problem with them is not about a single player, nor Westbrook, nor AD, nor LBJ, no the coaching staff and whatever but they are still looking for that missing link to take effect.

How many games do they need before finding out that? That's the question.

[danherbias07]

Waiting for Shaqtin-a-fool for Giannis. Did anyone see that? He tried to shoot the ball at the enemy's side then he remembered mid-air and just bounced the ball in the board so hard to make it look like a pass. He might be awesome at how he thinks fast mid-air but that is still an entry for Shaqtin.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-2mUyi_poY Go to: 7:48
Anyway, the Bucks won the game even though the Rockets gave them a hard time for the whole 3 quarters. Giannis monster game at 41 points and 17 rebounds.  

Tomorrow's eyes will be on the GSW vs 76ers game. Will Curry break the Ray Allen record or will his brother stop him using his high defensive skills?
The 76ers will be expecting all the attack coming from him so they will be ready and try to not let it happen there. It's inevitable like Seth said but maybe not just on his face.  

[LogitechMouse]

Anthony Davis out tonight and they finally let Dwight get the start and a few minutes… They win by 21. Biggest win of the year? Maybe. Normally you would think with their star player out and the team struggling they wouldn’t be getting their biggest win (or close to) of the season. I think AD is overrated, not playing up to expectations, and a constant injury concern. The Lakers really need to be considering what they can get for him. Resigning him to a post-LeBron contract or losing him to free agency will doom the team for years.

I think I might agree with what you said regarding AD being overrated. He is being paid too much and he isn't contributing that much in the past 2 seasons because of injuries. His injuries hinders him from playing at his full potential. Its good to see Dwight starting and with that, the Lakers had a huge lead at the start of the quarter.

This might be a blowout win for the Lakers but lets not forget how they lost with the underrated Thunder twice this season . Well, it seems like focusing the ball on Lebron is helping the team because he got 33 points with this game.

[harizen]

Well, it seems like focusing the ball on Lebron is helping the team because he got 33 points with this game.

I take that as a problem although if that's only the way for them to win, then so be it. Relying on Lebron shows us that the Lakers are not a competitive team to consider. Chemistry problems should be resolved by now but they are still struggling to make a best out of it. I don't think it's not about a Coach alone but also how their all roster behaves.

They will win today, they will lose another day, well much better than continuous loss. They are consistent in making inconsistencies and that should be solved.

[gagux123]

The current Lakers situation is really worrying me and I would never have imagined that the current Lakers squad could only make 14-13 in this season

I honestly don't understand, this season's team is so superior to previous seasons, but I believe the team is lacking chemistry, I don't know, but for sure there's something wrong with Lakers.

Well, if AD didn't work as 5 (center), go back to 4 (PF) and put Howard or DeAndre Jordan at the position 5.

I also believe that it is easier and more advantageous to trade Vogel than AD. But from what I've researched, the Lakers are unlikely to make any significant changes during the season.