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November 22, 2021, 11:54:43 AM
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I think these dirty style plays from LeBron are going to become more and more common as his aging lowers his play level to be below some of the young guys in the league. I don’t he’s going to have an easy time adjusting to him not being the most dominant player on the court. When I start seeing stuff like that, it makes me think he should start considering retirement before he cheapens his legacy.
Agree with you, that's a sign of frustration that he cannot be dominant anymore, plus his team now is struggling and I really thought they would lose against the Pistons but I'm surprised they bounce back really strong in the 4th quarter. They had struggled against a weak team, so they have no chance to beat a good team especially in the playoffs if they won't adjust and Lebron acted like he began to doubt himself.

Or he could be feeling insecure about this young guys because he is disrespecting him. And if I may recall in this game, he was really frustrated, he was blocked twice with no fouls. It was clean block though so maybe this really fuel James attitude in this game specially a team like Detroit. Yes, he is not a dirty players, but this time he really went overboard and it was a cheap shot.
This years season has started last October and yet LBJ is starting to get rusty on his recent plays and not so dominant like the past years or should I say that he's not on his prime anymore. This one is the famous this season giving a cheap elbow-shot to Stewart in the free-throw line, and that is a pure disrespect to a co-player and yes I see that he's insecure that the young generations isn't afraid of him head-to-head.
LBJ should retire next season. He ain't so exciting to watch this time. Poor Stewart getting his career in danger while LBJ just got ejected without any penalties.

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November 22, 2021, 01:02:51 PM
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The game between GSW vs Toronto Raptors showed the deep development of the bench of the former. Poole and Wiggins are those players that definitely stepped-up on their recent games. While I had my doubts on Wiggins, his continuous and consistent scoring games made me think otherwise on the past statements that I mentioned. Those two players had a combined score of 65, in which Curry was feeding the ball to them.

The game between Lakers vs Pistons was also a controversial one, due to the fact that Lebron somehow elbowed Stewart on his eye. I kinda got scared that it might be the Malice in the Palace 2.0 but officials know what they are doing now to prevent another disaster from rising.

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November 22, 2021, 01:34:10 PM
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I just read the news that Klay Thompson has started full practices with the team and the Golden State Warriors will have him in uniform playing games before Christmas. This team is going to be scary if he comes back anywhere close to where he was when he got injured. The thought they still have another starter in Wiseman that’s due back soon and I’m starting to think the Warriors might have another shot at reigniting their dynasty.
Welcome to the 2014-2015 Golden State Warriors but this time, they are better (at least for me).
The Warriors are playing right now without Klay but they are 15-2. What if he comes back? I know that he will not that efficient in his first few games and that is normal but there will be a time that he will come back the same Klay where he is just catching and shooting threes.

Just seeing the Warriors played today against the Raptors and that shows how great this team is. Steph, who is their main scorer scored only 12 points but Poole and Wiggins stepped up with a combined 65 points and won by 15 points. This just shows that anybody can step up to the team and can lead them to victory. It isn't only Steph who can lead the team because there are some who can fill what he is doing if he has a bad night. With Klay coming back, they will be stronger.

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November 22, 2021, 01:50:46 PM
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I think these dirty style plays from LeBron are going to become more and more common as his aging lowers his play level to be below some of the young guys in the league. I don’t he’s going to have an easy time adjusting to him not being the most dominant player on the court. When I start seeing stuff like that, it makes me think he should start considering retirement before he cheapens his legacy.
I agree if these dirty games from him keep on going on. He should've settled and retired and that's better for his reputation. I hope that he goes better with his next games.
Because if not and this continues, there's something wrong with it. It's just surprising to see that someone like him goes on rage and it's very unusual watching him being like that.
Guys, LeBron has only been ejected 2 times only, all the other dirty plays he did were either mild or he simply got away, I'm not a LeBron fan but he's not a dirty player, call him more of a flopper when the NBA were stupid enough to make those calls, but I really think he deserved to be ejected. may it be because of the heat of the game but you can see how irritated he was when he elbow punched Isaiah Stewart, the Lake show got the win anyways and I got my bet just right thanks to Russ.
I tend to agree, this just been some escalating moment but it does mean LBJ will be treated like he was a dirty player, which he isn't. He even tried to make an apology on what just happen if we tried to watch the clip on different angles, he kinda sorry on that. Was retirement really the solution, I guess not for God's sake, that shouldn't be if he can still play and his body can still handle it then let him play, I don't think he's below on the young guys.
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November 22, 2021, 02:03:33 PM
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The Warriors are playing right now without Klay but they are 15-2. What if he comes back?

It doesn't mean they will have a better winning rate. If Klay's comeback, Steve Kerr needs to modify the rotation of the players. That will affect the productivity rate of those players from the bench that also show some improvements while the Warriors do have a good record of 15-2.

On the other hand, if that changes will be made, Klay just needs to fill the hole on those bench players which not be a problem as he is explosive and consistent. But I'm not expecting that he will go back right away at his 100% performance as he will work on catching up on his early games.
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November 22, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
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I agree that Lebron didn't meant what was done and there is no intention behind it.
But, he pulled his arm way too strong when there should be no contact that should happen. It's like Stewart just needs someone to hold unto when Drummond box him out. It's his fault in the first place that's why Stewart acted that far.
I am reading some NBA player comments and some of them are hilarious.  Grin One of them is from Gilbert Arenas.


I can't find his Twitter account though. This is just circling around everywhere.
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November 22, 2021, 02:39:17 PM
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I agree that Lebron didn't meant what was done and there is no intention behind it.
But, he pulled his arm way too strong when there should be no contact that should happen. It's like Stewart just needs someone to hold unto when Drummond box him out. It's his fault in the first place that's why Stewart acted that far.
I am reading some NBA player comments and some of them are hilarious.  Grin One of them is from Gilbert Arenas.

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I can't find his Twitter account though. This is just circling around everywhere.
Seen this one as well but nah, it wasn't on twitter it's from his Instagram account and twitter wouldn't allow that block of texts from one single post. The post was really that hilarious and some NBA players right now was like getting some more popcorn. He has some caption on it "Gone in 60 seconds".

Here's Gilbert Arenas Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/no.chill.gil/
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November 22, 2021, 02:45:13 PM
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The Warriors are playing right now without Klay but they are 15-2. What if he comes back?

It doesn't mean they will have a better winning rate. If Klay's comeback, Steve Kerr needs to modify the rotation of the players. That will affect the productivity rate of those players from the bench that also show some improvements while the Warriors do have a good record of 15-2.

On the other hand, if that changes will be made, Klay just needs to fill the hole on those bench players which not be a problem as he is explosive and consistent. But I'm not expecting that he will go back right away at his 100% performance as he will work on catching up on his early games.
I'm sure coach Kerr already knows what to do,

they are practicing with Klay and those players who are stepping up right understand the value of Klay,

even he is not playing yet, but they know how it works once he steps out from the bench and starts playing with them, the core of GSW still intact and they are one of the best when playing together.

15-2 and with how they are enjoying the game, the chance of making another history is very possible.
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November 22, 2021, 02:47:00 PM
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I think these dirty style plays from LeBron are going to become more and more common as his aging lowers his play level to be below some of the young guys in the league. I don’t he’s going to have an easy time adjusting to him not being the most dominant player on the court. When I start seeing stuff like that, it makes me think he should start considering retirement before he cheapens his legacy.

People are just overreacting to that single situation happen on that game. Lebron's dirty plays? Before that incident, when was the last time Lebron make dirty plays? He is not a dirty player. The case that happened on that game was isolated and people just have to move on. Smiley

A dirty play is an intentional action. Different to what happened in that incident.
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November 22, 2021, 03:08:08 PM
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Well, as I've commented before, I'm surprised by the Warriors, and I would never have guessed they were performing like that.
Let's see how GSW will behave with Thompson's return to the team!

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I sincerely hope he continues with this performance, because he is proving to be a good player on the bench who is helping the Lakers a lot

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November 22, 2021, 03:36:13 PM
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The Warriors are playing right now without Klay but they are 15-2. What if he comes back?

It doesn't mean they will have a better winning rate. If Klay's comeback, Steve Kerr needs to modify the rotation of the players. That will affect the productivity rate of those players from the bench that also show some improvements while the Warriors do have a good record of 15-2.

On the other hand, if that changes will be made, Klay just needs to fill the hole on those bench players which not be a problem as he is explosive and consistent. But I'm not expecting that he will go back right away at his 100% performance as he will work on catching up on his early games.
Well, that might be correct but it seems that these bench players are expecting that to happen right? They know that Klay will comeback thus, their productivity rate will decline and they know it so they're ready for it.

Nobody is expecting for him to be 100% on his comeback and nothing is Smiley. After all, it happens to all players who incur injuries in the past. Injuries like Torn ACL will take time and even though you are ready to comeback, there is still a chance that it will happen again (hope it will not happen to Klay). With regards to rotation, I believe that Coach Kerr is ready for it. I know that he already created a new rotation when Klay comes back.

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November 22, 2021, 07:24:35 PM
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I think these dirty style plays from LeBron are going to become more and more common as his aging lowers his play level to be below some of the young guys in the league. I don’t he’s going to have an easy time adjusting to him not being the most dominant player on the court. When I start seeing stuff like that, it makes me think he should start considering retirement before he cheapens his legacy.
I agree if these dirty games from him keep on going on. He should've settled and retired and that's better for his reputation. I hope that he goes better with his next games.
Because if not and this continues, there's something wrong with it. It's just surprising to see that someone like him goes on rage and it's very unusual watching him being like that.
I still believe that he attracts some attention during the game and that is what matters. I am not saying that he is as good as he used to be, look at his stats this year, so far he is averaging least amount of PPG since his rookie year, one of the lowest ever assists per game, very low, lowest ever for him rebounding averages and his defense is nowhere what used to be when it comes to clamping down players even though his steals look high (same as Harden since forever, has high steals but never defends properly).

However even with all of that in mind, teams still collapse on him whenever he drives which leaves some other teammates open. Right now, entire Lakers roster is going against the good old "let Lebron drive, he will either dish out or score so all you have to do is stand there and wait for him to pass to you" style of play, because they are good players too and Lebron is not that much greater and can't carry a team.

But, I believe he is not old enough to retire neither, dude has enough power in the game to attract defenders on him even at his age.
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November 22, 2021, 08:03:17 PM
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Knicks lay a dud on the road against the Bulls.  Thibs needs to expand the rotation these guys aren't getting it done day in and day out.  I know they were on a second day of a back to back with travel in between but that can't be an automatic loss.  Right now looks like the Knicks are dead center .500 team.

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November 22, 2021, 08:10:59 PM
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But, I believe he is not old enough to retire neither, dude has enough power in the game to attract defenders on him even at his age.

It's only one game we saw him so frustrated, that should not conclude that he is not as competitive as before anymore.
His stats is still impressive, with an average of 22 PPG, that's a stat of a superstar, it's just that he had a bad season now which is very opposite of his expectation. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html

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November 22, 2021, 08:30:38 PM
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A dirty play is an intentional action. Different to what happened in that incident.
It is. I've watched a closer look at the replay and sad to say that Lebron did really that intentional. How he ended up playing that, we don't know. I'm not trying to defend Lebron but whoever follows the track of Stewart, are there other the same plays that he did dirty as well to other players? I haven't followed most of his games.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 22, 2021, 08:36:24 PM
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A dirty play is an intentional action. Different to what happened in that incident.
It is. I've watched a closer look at the replay and sad to say that Lebron did really that intentional. How he ended up playing that, we don't know. I'm not trying to defend Lebron but whoever follows the track of Stewart, are there other the same plays that he did dirty as well to other players? I haven't followed most of his games.
This article would explain, A Bad Boy for life: Isaiah Stewart plays hard, not dirty, and he’s not going to stop...

What happened is that, Isaiah Stewart plays hard as usual and Lebron gets frustrated, it could happen to anyone whether a superstar or not.

And Anthony Davis defended by saying "Everyone Knows Lebron is not a Dirty Player"
https://hoopshype.com/2021/11/21/anthony-davis-everyone-knows-lebron-james-is-not-a-dirty-guy/

yes, I agree with that, Lebron is not known for that, only known for being a good flop.

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November 22, 2021, 08:53:04 PM
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I think these dirty style plays from LeBron are going to become more and more common as his aging lowers his play level to be below some of the young guys in the league. I don’t he’s going to have an easy time adjusting to him not being the most dominant player on the court. When I start seeing stuff like that, it makes me think he should start considering retirement before he cheapens his legacy.
I agree if these dirty games from him keep on going on. He should've settled and retired and that's better for his reputation. I hope that he goes better with his next games.
Because if not and this continues, there's something wrong with it. It's just surprising to see that someone like him goes on rage and it's very unusual watching him being like that.
Guys, LeBron has only been ejected 2 times only, all the other dirty plays he did were either mild or he simply got away, I'm not a LeBron fan but he's not a dirty player, call him more of a flopper when the NBA were stupid enough to make those calls, but I really think he deserved to be ejected. may it be because of the heat of the game but you can see how irritated he was when he elbow punched Isaiah Stewart, the Lake show got the win anyways and I got my bet just right thanks to Russ.
I tend to agree, this just been some escalating moment but it does mean LBJ will be treated like he was a dirty player, which he isn't. He even tried to make an apology on what just happen if we tried to watch the clip on different angles, he kinda sorry on that. Was retirement really the solution, I guess not for God's sake, that shouldn't be if he can still play and his body can still handle it then let him play, I don't think he's below on the young guys.
Everyone's emotion was invested in the event and that's why we all have opinions that aren't really wrong. Upon watching it and you'll see the blood shed over the face of Isaiah, you'll really think of it as negative and we can't blame anyone who thinks of having that opinion and as well as the opinion of the others that don't think he has to retire. At the end of this, it's all about discussion and opinion that we have towards the situation that has happened.

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November 22, 2021, 09:48:19 PM
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This article would explain, A Bad Boy for life: Isaiah Stewart plays hard, not dirty, and he’s not going to stop...

What happened is that, Isaiah Stewart plays hard as usual and Lebron gets frustrated, it could happen to anyone whether a superstar or not.

And Anthony Davis defended by saying "Everyone Knows Lebron is not a Dirty Player"
https://hoopshype.com/2021/11/21/anthony-davis-everyone-knows-lebron-james-is-not-a-dirty-guy/

yes, I agree with that, Lebron is not known for that, only known for being a good flop.
Yes I agree too, LeBron James is an excellent floper lol

I believe LJ did that maybe to push Stewart away or give him some warning, that's normal in basketball.
But I don't think anyone would have expected such damage and the intensity of the elbow, I believe LeBron James did intend to hit Stewart, but not wanting to hurt him.
Everyone knows that, depending on where the elbow hits, it is a "razor", especially if it hits the eyebrow, mouth, nose, side of the eye and other parts.

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November 22, 2021, 09:52:08 PM
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This article would explain, A Bad Boy for life: Isaiah Stewart plays hard, not dirty, and he’s not going to stop...

What happened is that, Isaiah Stewart plays hard as usual and Lebron gets frustrated, it could happen to anyone whether a superstar or not.

And Anthony Davis defended by saying "Everyone Knows Lebron is not a Dirty Player"
https://hoopshype.com/2021/11/21/anthony-davis-everyone-knows-lebron-james-is-not-a-dirty-guy/

yes, I agree with that, Lebron is not known for that, only known for being a good flop.
Yes I agree too, LeBron James is an excellent floper lol

I believe LJ did that maybe to push Stewart away or give him some warning, that's normal in basketball.
But I don't think anyone would have expected such damage and the intensity of the elbow, I believe LeBron James did intend to hit Stewart, but not wanting to hurt him.
Everyone knows that, depending on where the elbow hits, it is a "razor", especially if it hits the eyebrow, mouth, nose, side of the eye and other parts.

That's not a simple push, there's really an intention to hurt someone and that's due to frustration since Lebron is not really a dirty player.
Look at Isaiah Stewart's face here.. Pistons just trying to bring their culture which is the bad boys.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/22/lebron-james-bloodies-isaiah-stewart-with-elbow-to-the-face-leading-to-mass-brawl-15643398/


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November 22, 2021, 09:59:16 PM
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This article would explain, A Bad Boy for life: Isaiah Stewart plays hard, not dirty, and he’s not going to stop...

What happened is that, Isaiah Stewart plays hard as usual and Lebron gets frustrated, it could happen to anyone whether a superstar or not.

And Anthony Davis defended by saying "Everyone Knows Lebron is not a Dirty Player"
https://hoopshype.com/2021/11/21/anthony-davis-everyone-knows-lebron-james-is-not-a-dirty-guy/

yes, I agree with that, Lebron is not known for that, only known for being a good flop.
Yes I agree too, LeBron James is an excellent floper lol

I believe LJ did that maybe to push Stewart away or give him some warning, that's normal in basketball.
But I don't think anyone would have expected such damage and the intensity of the elbow, I believe LeBron James did intend to hit Stewart, but not wanting to hurt him.
Everyone knows that, depending on where the elbow hits, it is a "razor", especially if it hits the eyebrow, mouth, nose, side of the eye and other parts.

That's not a simple push, there's really an intention to hurt someone and that's due to frustration since Lebron is not really a dirty player.
Look at Isaiah Stewart's face here.. Pistons just trying to bring their culture which is the bad boys.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/22/lebron-james-bloodies-isaiah-stewart-with-elbow-to-the-face-leading-to-mass-brawl-15643398/


wow, i confess i hadn't seen that picture!

Well, I could see that LeBron James intended to hit, but I believe he didn't want to smack Stewart's eyebrow EXACTLY, as the damage would be massive.

LeBron James is not a dirty player, well unfortunately I can't get a 100% accurate answer, but I don't know, I believe LJ didn't want to hurt his opponent at this level

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